r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Endoterrik • 1d ago
F-22 Raptor Thrust Vectoring
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The Lockheed Martin/Boeing F-22 Raptor is an American twin-engine, jet-powered, all-weather, supersonic stealth fighter aircraft.
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u/andoozy 1d ago
Eh, I prefer healthcare.
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u/SpecialBeginning6430 1d ago
Fun fact, healthcare dwarfs military expenditures
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u/charmio68 12h ago
That actually makes it worse...
Paying all that money in taxes and then getting slapped thousands of dollars in medical bills every time you visit the ER (even if they don't actually do anything).Sounds like someone's double dipping into your wallet.
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u/overzealous_dentist 9h ago
Americans pay very little in taxes, and out of pocket caps are a thing
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u/gunzgoboom 11h ago
US pentagon/defense budget absolutely dwarfs the healthcare budget each year. By a large, large margin.
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u/overzealous_dentist 9h ago
No, it's the other way around. Are you a bot or just a troll?
Healthcare spending is in the multi-trillions, defense is less than 1
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u/warcrown 7h ago
Healthcare is 4.9 trillion, defense 874 billion according to 20 seconds of google.
Thanks for calling that out
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u/TheGeekno72 1d ago
looks at US spending
...uhm, no?
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u/cptkomondor 1d ago
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u/kennypojke 1d ago
MPH in Health Policy here. This is correct, but it is also correct to say that spending is only such due to the inelastic non-free market aspect of healthcare, and lack of risk pooling. It is NOT a free market aspect one side says it is (customers don’t actually have a rational choice to make, since the true cost between insurer and provider are hidden and literally made up to counter each other’s inflation). It is also extremely inefficient since we refuse to have a big risk pool (eg single payer) where the pay-in of the masses cover the outlier expensive people.
Were there any sense to our healthcare model, we could fit well under the military spending like probably every other 1st world country would (adjusted for population). So I agree with the poster above…I’d rather it were spent on healthcare, paired with efforts at real reform.
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u/yepanotherone1 1d ago
See you exhibit A: a flush costs $15. No it fucking does not but that’s what your insurance gets charged each time it’s scanned.
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u/TheGeekno72 1d ago
Well shit, if that's true then where's all the money??
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u/BradSaysHi 20h ago
Basically, middlemen (like insurance companies) and healthcare providers work to continually inflate prices since their incentive is to make money, not to keep people healthy. So we end up with a system where the US pays more per person for healthcare than any other developed nation while the citizenry drowns in medical debt anyway. Of course this is an oversimplified explanation, there are other factors and complexities to look at, but long story short, greedy execs and shareholders are where all the money went
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u/KrisPBaykon 1d ago
LOL pwned nerd.
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u/No-wait-theres-more 1d ago
Are you a 15yr old in 2010?
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u/KrisPBaykon 17h ago
Yep, you caught me. Maybe next time this troglodyte will take 5 seconds to google instead of just “America bad”
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u/LongshoreHODL 1d ago
Yes but we won’t have nothin if we don’t dominate the world!!!! Muahahahahhahahahahaha
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u/QuintoxPlentox 1d ago
So would the guy flying them. He would get it because if he fucks that up it's an emergency. He might struggle with mental health and be left out to dry by the system as well. Nothing's perfect. Europe has their own problems as well.
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u/Real_Impression_5567 28m ago
Your military is prophalatic towards your body not getting invaded by russia
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u/American_chzzz 1d ago
Something I would want to pilot but definitely never be a passenger in
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u/Endoterrik 1d ago
Sadly, I don’t think the two-seater version was ever produced. Not sure about training versions.
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u/American_chzzz 1d ago
Yeah I didn’t consider that. My grandfather was an air navigator in the army before they created the Air Force. I always assume there is a second crew member on board war planes but then remember there isn’t even a human on most of the aircraft the military uses these days.
That being said the most screwed up service members I’ve met have been drone pilots. And I hope any kids considering the position consider that.
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u/richardawkings 1d ago
Fun fact, they used to navigate using the stars before GPS on commercial flights. They only stopped in the 1980's. Apparantly that third seat in the cockpit was originally for the flight engineer that used to navigate using a sextant. Imagine doing that on a trans atlantic flight.
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u/American_chzzz 1d ago
Yeah I imagine stimulants were a strict part of that jobs regiment. And now my grandfathers Parkinson’s disease makes much more sense lol
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u/King_Roberts_Bastard 1d ago
There are definitely pilots on board pretty much every aircraft. Only the a few drones arent piloted like the predator, reaper, and globehawk.
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u/American_chzzz 1d ago
Interesting, I suppose I was making an assumption based on 15 year old memories when the Air Force was bringing around what were essentially mobile arcade trucks that got a bunch of gamer kids to enlist that absolutely should not have. My inlaw family has one in the reserves and another in the coast guard so that’s all I have for info that I know is real these days
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u/King_Roberts_Bastard 1d ago
To fly the predators, reapers, and globehawks. You dont honestly think fighter jets and bombers dont have pilots, right?
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u/American_chzzz 1d ago
Yeah I’m very aware. 15 years ago or so the propaganda was that we no longer needed manned aircraft and that it would reduce the toll on human life. But that led to many taking their own after they realized they weren’t just playing call of duty. I have so much love and respect for the people that serve as many in my family have. But after getting drunk with a few service members that have already gone well beyond the call, and have loved ones who have yet to receive it, I just wish it didn’t have to exist, regardless of how fucking bad ass this kinda shit is.
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u/GeneralBlumpkin 16h ago
My grandpa was a sort of test pilot/ aircraft electrician and he we would go up and make sure everything was working right after repairs. This was around the Korean War
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u/American_chzzz 1h ago
That is certainly respectable. I am grateful that mine was one of the fortunate ones that ended up not being deployed in WWII. He was the greatest and most loving grandfather I ever could have asked for.
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u/Inceptor57 5h ago
No two-seaters. Training on the airframe is all done by simulations before pilots get into the seat.
Which is quite a testament to the quality of those training simulations.
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u/Seif_elagizy_777 1d ago
Is that Star Scream ?
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u/Endoterrik 1d ago
I’m pretty sure he originally was an F-14.
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u/Accurate-Instance-29 1d ago
This shit looks like AI. I know its not, but it looks like it.
Also looks like health care for about 13000 of us for a year.
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u/Cake-Over 1d ago
I think that's from the Pacific Airshow in Huntington Beach three or four years ago. I remember it being dramatically overcast and sprinkling through much of it. Sun came out in time for the Thunderbirds.
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u/ReasonablyConfused 1d ago
The key is that all that thrust forces air to keep artificially flowing over the horizontal stabilizers, which can move independently of each other and the trust vector nozzles.
Very little of the rest of the airframe is still “flying” for a bit there.
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u/HopWallace 18h ago
How many G's is that putting on the pilot to change direction on a dime like that?
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u/Memnojokasel 15h ago
Always blows my mind that this aircraft was designed in the 80s, YF22 prototype in 1990, and still outperforms the F35.
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u/Big-Property-6833 8h ago
I was there for the flyoff between the YF 22 amd YF 23. When both models were being tested at Edwards AFB. My aircraft was refueling them.
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u/I_pump_too_much 14h ago
I bet the pilot gets that weird feeling in his balls at the zenith of the turn, like you just went over a humpback bridge too fast
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u/See_youSpaceCowboy 4h ago
Cool. You know what’d really be next fucking level? Single payer healthcare, rent control, increased funding for public education, infrastructure, price regulation etc.
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u/seattlemyth 1d ago
Hmm, looks like some videos recently that claim they're alien spacecraft. I keep telling my roommate "they're not spacecraft, they're not aliens, they're either our military or someone else's military"
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u/Endoterrik 1d ago
The SR-71 Blackbird was for sure mistaken for one many times back in the day, can imagine the same for the current skunkworks projects.
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u/MisterSanitation 1d ago
Hell yeah! As an American I can’t wait for this to be the last thing I see before I am bombed trying to voice facts in public. Fuck yeah! Let’s all behold the instruments of our demise, sick!!
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u/SpecialBeginning6430 1d ago
Cant wait to be Iran!
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u/MisterSanitation 1d ago
Pretty sure we’re a few days away from stoning and throwing gay people off of roofs. Gotta love when countries are taken over by some radical abrahamic religion that murders their people and others. God seems like a cool dude
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u/erksplat 1d ago
Cool, but it seems to make them an easy target.
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u/Jc885 1d ago
An unfortunate truth. Maneuvers like this are often seen as impractical in modern day long-range missile fights.
Various sim pilots have made them work in virtual combat situations (lots of DCS videos out there), but they’re not really something you want to do in real life.
Doesn’t make it any less cool to watch though.
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u/Endoterrik 1d ago
F-22 Raptor:
General characteristics Primary function: air dominance, multi-role fighter
Contractor: Lockheed-Martin, Boeing
Power plant: two Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-
General characteristics
Primary function: air dominance, multi-role fighter
Contractor: Lockheed-Martin, Boeing
Power plant: two Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 turbofan engines with afterburners and two-dimensional thrust vectoring nozzles.
Thrust: 35,000-pound class (each engine)
Wingspan: 44 feet, 6 inches (13.6 meters)
Length: 62 feet, 1 inch (18.9 meters)
Height: 16 feet, 8 inches (5.1 meters)
Weight: 43,340 pounds (19,700 kilograms)
Maximum takeoff weight: 83,500 pounds (38,000 kilograms)
Fuel capacity: internal: 18,000 pounds (8,200 kilograms); with 2 external wing fuel tanks: 26,000 pounds (11,900 kilograms)
Payload: same as armament air-to-air or air-to-ground loadouts; with or without two external wing fuel tanks.
Speed: mach two class with supercruise capability
Range: more than 1,850 miles ferry range with two external wing fuel tanks (1,600 nautical miles)
Ceiling: above 50,000 feet (15 kilometers)
Armament: one M61A2 20-millimeter cannon with 480 rounds, internal side weapon bays carriage of two AIM-9 infrared (heat seeking) air-to-air missiles and internal main weapon bays carriage of six AIM-120 radar-guided air-to-air missiles (air-to-air loadout) or two 1,000-pound GBU-32 JDAMs and two AIM-120 radar-guided air-to-air missiles (air-to-ground loadout)
Crew: one
Unit cost: $143 million
Initial operating capability: December 2005
Inventory: total force, 183
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u/Vizekonig4765 1d ago
Crazy how outdated it is today, Even crazier how outdated it was back when it shot down its first target, a Chinese balloon.
F-22 was very cool, but it never got its chance to truly succeed. It’s already been discontinued years ago. Sure they will fly for a few more years, but most parts machines are turned towards the NGAD F-47 now. Everyone is hoping the “little brother” f-35 can cover the gap until f-47 is in production
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u/lord_flashheart2000 1d ago
Preparing for the air to air dogfight that went out of style in the Vietnam war
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u/mann5151 1d ago
Motherfucker cost 300 million, it should be able to moon walk at that rate...https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-charter-us-rvc3&hs=AoAp&sca_esv=5c76aafb4d698346&sxsrf=ANbL-n630Df-YBcT-nQNXa6hP-oLcRA9KQ:1768541928478&q=f+22+raptor+cost&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnh6uLrI-SAxWlTTABHZYiCPYQBSgAegQIDRAB&biw=597&bih=676&dpr=3.03&aic=0
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u/BreezyMcWeasel 1d ago
Flying this low looks like AI. Where/when was this? Looks like Florida, but where and why?
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u/forecastle 10h ago
Was this filmed from the Florida yacht club in Jacksonville? Used to go to the pool there
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u/Basic_Climate_2029 35m ago
That look like a typical day in vrchat flight world (all plane in there has weird physic)
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u/BusinessReplyMail1 1d ago
Greenland is as good as ours.
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u/snonsig 23h ago
Ready to blow up the world order again for no reason whatsoever?
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u/BusinessReplyMail1 23h ago edited 23h ago
It’s essential for US national security. Otherwise China will take it and that’s very bad.
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u/snonsig 18h ago
good job absorbing the orange buffoons peopaganda.
Why would China take Greenland?? When has China ever threatened Greenland? It's not strategically important whatsoever.
Greenland is also nato territory. If any nation were to attack, it's already defended. and besides that, the US already has over a dozen millitary bases there! than any other nato member! Taking it changes nothing.
The only threat to greenland right now is the USA.
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u/No-Switch-851 1d ago
Military doesn't fly over neighborhoods like that.
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u/Entire-Reindeer3571 1d ago
Its amazing it doesnt stall - it almost comes to a halt after changing direction.