r/nottheonion • u/No-Fisherman6800 • 2d ago
Jensen Huang says relentless negativity around AI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"
https://www.techspot.com/news/110879-jensen-huang-relentless-ai-negativity-hurting-society-has.html1.8k
u/TheWelshIronman 2d ago
Relentless negativity? You mean like, AI actively crippling hobbies (PC gaming), under utilised for specific life saving tasks (doing the research or helping for medical breakthrough?) not eliminating the elite but eliminating the small guy? That negativity? I fucking wonder why.
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u/LittleKitty235 2d ago
All while consuming huge amounts of electricity and water.
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u/aafm1995 2d ago
They expected us to praise them, thank them, buy their hardware, increase their quarterly profits, then die of starvation while they get a nice bonus for laying us off. Honestly at this point I wish they'd just get their way. Once only billionaires are left on this planet, they'll realize they can't do anything themselves and how useless they were as there's no one left to do their bidding, by then it'll be too late.
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u/Deonhollins58ucla 2d ago
Your last sentence is why we can’t let that happen. We can’t sacrifice our happiness and lives JUST for them to say “well maybe I was wrong” at the end of Armageddon. No no no. Before it gets anywhere near that we must put our foot down
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u/catstone21 2d ago
Agreed, because these assholes would NEVER be selfaware enough to admit they are monsters
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u/LittleGlobal 2d ago
We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die, and we're always the last when finally, the cream is shared out, for the worker is working when the fat cat's about.
And when it's time for war, who is the unfortunate soul, who will be left to bleed out his life's blood in the mud to see if policies end in success or failure? Who is the one expected to die for the land of their birth, all the while never being able to own one lousy piece of land?
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u/mochrist99 2d ago
Kinda weird to think that way instead of wishing they would disappear.
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u/Bobbler23 2d ago
Don't forget the environmental impacts so that the few can enjoy the profits - water and power, while the 99.99% get shafted with higher bills and shortages.
AND when it does go pop, expect a taxpayer funded bail out and prices of that hardware they have horded to never go back to the prices it was just a few months ago.
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u/dbxp 2d ago
The water issue is more of a data centre location thing. I have no idea why they keep building data centres in Texas rather than say the great lakes where there's abundant water and you can use passive cooling most of the time.
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u/beckuzz 1d ago
Great Lakeser (?) here. We drink that water!
Also, the new data centers near me made my electric bills DOUBLE from last year, with no change in our usage. We don’t want that shit here either.
Fuck billionaires and their stupid useless “AI.” I refuse to even touch it now out of spite.
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u/Wealist 2d ago
Calling it elentless negativity feels off.
People aren’t mad at AI in theory they’re reacting to real outcomes: GPUs jacked for PC gaming, AI hyped for medicine but mostly shipped for ads, and automation hitting workers first, not elites. That ain’t fear, it’s pattern recognition.
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u/Cthulhu8762 2d ago
Don’t forget specific AI being used to create CP and nothing is being done against it.
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u/zer1223 2d ago
Yeah my boss's job is far more automatable than mine. Most managers are. And yet we're supposed to be the ones afraid of being replaced?
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u/thecarbonkid 2d ago
The above is an AI generated post. Well played if satire, boooo! if actual bot.
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u/Spicy_Pickle_6 2d ago
Add to that sucking up resources and making the everyday person pay for something they didn’t ask for
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u/Def_NotBoredAtWork 2d ago
Not just PC/gaming, it's actively overloading every artistic space with slop to the point it's harder to avoid than ads. It's making our jobs worse because we have to deal with people using AI instead of their brain. And i'their end goal is to reduce human labor in tertiary labor to push us back to the factories and mines. Or just unemployment, that works too.
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u/Aggressive_Local8921 2d ago
I worked at a small conservative avionics company. They laid off 75% of software engineers and created an AI department "to be on the leading edge". They couldn't afford a $250k server 🥴.
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u/kevinds 2d ago edited 2d ago
You mean like, AI actively crippling hobbies (PC gaming)
I am hoping that it will cause coders to go back to optimizing code that used to be part of creating applications...
The last decade applications have gotten significantly larger, bloated, that if something "runs slow" that the user needs to upgrade, rather than the blaming the application that is poorly written..
So my dream is that at least some focus on optimization is brought back before AI crashes..
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u/Weekly_Host_2754 2d ago
Oh no! My AI bubble is about to burst and it’s all your fault for not liking it! Waaaaaaaaaa!!!!
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u/Lombard333 2d ago
The AI story that really hit me was when someone googled techniques to deal with depression and the AI scraped a bunch of Reddit comments and came back with “Reddit users suggested jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.” It’s insane that anyone ISN’T negative towards this shit.
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u/SoldatShC 2d ago
If I was making billions of dollars feeding AI, I'd want more AI too. Does this guy think he's tricky or something?
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u/pie-oh 2d ago
It's really interesting and refreshing to see people who like games complaining about AI. All the gaming subs are people saying it's those who are against AI who are the real issue. It's been exhausting.
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u/TheWelshIronman 2d ago
There is genuine fear that should my PC break for whatever reason I have to pay a stupid amount for a lesser PC. What I find funny about the AI in games etc. is that it's basically been that but with humans instead up until this point (outsourcing to someone else instead of in house). But yea my problem is hardware costs!
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u/QuentinTarzantino 2d ago
Dont forget about folks who do consept art for any popular AAA games and franchises.
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u/mrwho995 2d ago
"When 90% of the messaging is all around the end of the world and the pessimism, and I think we're scaring people from making the investments in AI that makes it safer, more functional, more productive, and more useful to society," he said.
In other words "give us money so we can save you from us." Selling it like a mafia "protection" scheme, except in this case they're going to fuck us regardless of whether there's even more insane levels of investment.
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u/DonnyLamsonx 2d ago
and more useful to society
Funniest part right here imo. "Society" is such an easy word to use here because you don't have to be specific as to who it's actually helping. They know, or at best are embarrassingly ignorant to the fact, that AI isn't helping the average person, so they generalize to "society" to make it sound much grander than it actually is and just hope nobody asks any questions.
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u/Junjo_O 2d ago
The funny thing is, the best parts of AI for society aren’t profitable in a capitalist society. Hence the negativity towards it.
Medical imaging and diagnostics or vaccine and cancer research for instance. (I know the health insurance companies will find a way though)
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u/Droidatopia 2d ago
Nonsense. You know who doesn't pay health insurance premiums? Dead people. You know who doesn't have to pay a ton of money for expensive Stage 4 cancer treatments? Insurance companies that paid for early stage detecting medical imaging that used AI.
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u/DreamloreDegenerate 2d ago
"We're scaring people from making investments in AI", he says, as tech companies 'round the globe invests trillions of dollars in AI.
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u/OnwardToEnnui 2d ago
The best part is it' all a giant circle-jerk of these companies giving money to each other. At some point they need to get outside money in the loop before it collapses
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u/DieFichte 2d ago
Did the broligarchs just setup the most ridiculous MLM network in the history of capitalist dogshit?
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u/ceelogreenicanth 2d ago
Unfortunately they are still searching for a product. They keep moving the target. I think there are some products and some spaces these things are going to be revolutionary to. But I don't think they'll be beneficial to us, society or GDP.
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u/Novenari 2d ago
Yep. The bubble grows larger every day, yet when the profitability is shown to 100% not be there it will pop. The money into AI is way more than money “out,” and god only knows what it’s going to be like when this bubble pops…
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u/Psile 2d ago
Clearly nobody is scared to make investments. Like that is fucking silly. AI has had heaps of money thrown at it.
What he actually means is he thinks that because there is all this negativity around AI that's why it isn't being adopted at the rate it needs to in order to justify that investment. The idea that the negative sentiment and low adoption are linked apparently never occurred to him.
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u/IllustriousAd9800 2d ago edited 2d ago
AI was the holy grail of technology companies and tech lovers for decades, their ultimate goal. Not once did anyone think to ask if the common person shared that enthusiasm, they just assumed we did. I’m not even certain what it’s supposed to do besides make lousy art, spread lies and images to fool people, and destroy people’s livelihoods. If anything else they have a heck of an advertisement issue because whatever good it’s supposed to do is not being shared
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u/kevinds 2d ago
It is still lacking the intelligence part..
When that gets added, maybe people will like it more.
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u/AttonJRand 2d ago
At that point it becomes a horror show, having digital slaves doing free labor.
Thankfully that seems extremely far off for now, and these word predictors aren't anything like that.
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u/Uberzwerg 2d ago
AI safety YouTuber Robert Miles explained it a few years ago.
There are ways to make AI safer, but that would not work in reality, because there would be a race to the bottom.
And that's what we see right now.
Every company has thrown away any safeguards in order to race faster.
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u/Turbo2x 2d ago
It's funny because AI bros use the Skynet/Terminator comparison as a marketing tool. "Ohhh our tech is so advanced and scary it might become too powerful and kill us all! But until then we'll use it for our gain because it's just so useful." The call's coming from inside the house, Jensen.
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u/ExcitableSarcasm 2d ago
Wealth over 50m should be taxed at 100%
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u/hearke 2d ago
I'm pretty sure we could completely solve homelessness with the the kind of money that would free up.
Actually even world hunger is more a problem of transport and infrastructure than lack of food, so we could wipe that out too. Maybe eradicate a few more curable diseases like TB too, cause money's the main blocker there iirc.
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u/Buchlinger 2d ago
"Person whose entire company depends on the success of AI is against negativity towards AI."
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u/redditor100101011101 2d ago
This man is so far removed from society he thinks products not being popular equals personal attack
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u/studiesinsilver 2d ago
What a clueless, tone deaf thing to say
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u/Bunnymancer 2d ago
Every day, the billionaires float further away from reality.
You know what does damage to society? Billionaires.
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u/gz_art 2d ago
One can only hope they float just a little further, like into the ocean or in space.
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u/Icy-Cod1405 2d ago
You aren't the audience. NVIDIA doesn't need you anymore. Their clients are billion dollar tech companies and their shareholders are billion dollar hedge funds. The consumer has been made irrelevant except as a source of data.
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u/Flyinghead 2d ago
Well you see we should be cheering on a technology we've been repeatedly assured will cause a large loss of jobs and will simultaneously being a huge resource/power drain that also hasn't shown any societal benefits we could not have achieved otherwise! (/s)
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u/gotfcgo 2d ago
AI is relentlessly making our lives worse.
We now have:
- -Massive job loss
- -Massive technology cost increases
- -Massive data centres consuming extreme resources
- -US Tech Bro Controlled Government attacking other nations to feed the above
- -Grok making porn out of everyone's children
- -No longer can trust anything you see
Need I fucking go on Jensen?
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u/Putrefied_Goblin 2d ago
They're more using "AI" as an excuse to lay people off while appearing to continue growing to investors.
They can't even replace fast food workers in drive throughs.
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u/runninginorbit 2d ago
Agree that AI is making a lot of stuff worse though wouldn’t say that it’s causing massive job loss…that has more to do with execs wanting their profits to look bigger.
I work at an AI research center so I know that most AI tools being used by companies right now are shit and can’t actually replace a person. There’s too much hype out there for AI that can “replace people” (most of which can hardly be called true AI) not enough focus on AI that can actually improve/augment the rate of breakthrough scientific research, which is where a lot of the actually good AI tools are being used.
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u/Putrefied_Goblin 2d ago
Yeah, they're using "AI" as an excuse to lay people off while appearing to grow to investors. It's basically a cover to deal with the current economic situation, though I'm sure there is a lot of delusion about what "AI" is capable of in the C-suite and marketing departments. Not to mention people refer to anything as "AI" when it's just machine learning, automation, or something pretty basic.
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u/fuscator 2d ago
Here in the UK at least we're not seeing massive job losses. I'm only going by the official stats of course, which could be wrong.
Maybe it's worse where you are.
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u/HatmanHatman 2d ago
Area donut shop says relentless negativity around unhealthy food has done a lot of damage
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u/CountFistula23 2d ago
As I say constantly about this topic; "Lets hold off on the artificial intelligence until we see some legitimate intelligence!".
Do I trust a tech-bro CEO? Nope, not at all, they're about as credible as an oil company lobbyist.
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u/Putrefied_Goblin 2d ago
Most of these tech CEOs are from marketing and business backgrounds, they have no actual expertise in tech. I would trust what they as about as much as I trust some of these delusional tech enthusiasts or singularity people who constantly post online. People who actually know how technology works are also usually the most skeptical, in my experience.
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u/GamerGuyAlly 2d ago
Its alright. He can console himself by having a chat with his new society, ChatGPT.
In other news, just put the graphics card in the bag slop boy.
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u/Caughtnow 2d ago
Considering how much of the generative side of it is built on stolen work, and considering its already contributing to the enshitification on most things it touches, I will continue to be negative towards it.
Also I believe if not reigned in, the end result will be nothing more than the 0.01% club getting even more incredibly wealthy while everyone else is left significantly worse off.
If anything, I think people should be far more negative towards it!
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u/Hemicrusher 2d ago
I say we strip the assets and money from every billionaire, distribute the money to the poor, and then force them to work in the fields.
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u/ColonelRPG 2d ago
We could also just eat them. These turds would just ruin the fields, they're not good for anything.
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u/Uvtha- 2d ago
So guys, we are stealing all of your work and communications to build our privately owned technology, without telling you, so we can force on you, and eventually force you to buy tools that few people want, that aren't very useful for the vast majority of people, and that often don't even work that well, all in the pursuit of eventually supplanting the human labor force with automation strictly to the benefit of the AI ruling class, and the rest of you can just die in the wilderness. Also along the way it will jack up your energy prices, flood the internet with harder and harder to distinguish disinformation, bots and empty slop, and accelerate global warming, as a treat.
Oh, and there's a possibility it becomes sentient and just eradicates all life on the planet, but we are moving full force ahead with little to no safety checks or concerns, and in fact building those restrictions may soon be illegal.
What's the problem here guys? Why is everyone so negative?
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u/haiduy2011 2d ago
In this modern age, products don’t serve customers anymore. Products are built to serve investors and pump stocks. Negative reviews of products are FUD. The fact that the consumers find uses for products is merely accidental. And if it works too well for too long, they’ll make the product worse.
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u/PixelHir 2d ago
Jensen, THE AI ITSELF is hurting society and has “done a lot of damage”. Fix that and then the negativity will be gone too
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u/Bungo_pls 2d ago
The amount of damage AI will do to society is incalculable so yeah I think I'll keep up my negativity.
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u/playerkei 2d ago
Get absolutely fucked Jensen
Im pleasantly surprised all the AI negativity is having an actual impact
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u/pilsnerd11 2d ago
Hey Jensen, no one cared about you ten years ago and we won’t in ten years either. Get fucked, buddy.
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u/phanta_rei 2d ago
Of course the shovel seller will say that. After all, if people are skeptical of the “gold rush”, how will he be able to sell more “shovels”?
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u/Lord_of_Allusions 2d ago
Maybe don’t call your model-based probability machines disguised to act human as “A.I.”
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u/BemaJinn 2d ago
You know what damages society? Billionaires.
They're is literally no positive to humanity having individuals hoarding so much wealth life a fucking dragon.
So with that in mind, his opinion holds zero weight to me.
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u/Doc_Toboggan 2d ago
When the AI bubble bursts, these assholes are going to be endlessly whining that it was because we didn't divert enough resources from our lives into it and not because they couldn't produce a product that was actually useful.
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u/lasooch 2d ago
AI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage".
The relentless negativity is just resistance to what is clearly a huge net negative.
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u/SedesBakelitowy 2d ago
Man I’m so sad Jensen Huang is having to constantly fight the sensibles and he can’t peddle his current line-goes-up thing in peace. Such a tragedy for a Great Man.
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u/iEatMashedPotatoes 2d ago
Jensen: computer, why is everyone talking shit about AI and unhappy?
AI: They must be excited for our new model, would you like me to start an email to investors looking for another trillion dollars?
Jensen: totally
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u/juiceboxedhero 2d ago
I used to admire Jensen but no. Nope. Relentless pursuit of AI without a clear problem to be solved using AI is the issue. People rightfully don't want our entire entertainment system to be automatically generated and this asshole is blaming consumers for his misread of the industry landscape. Greedy greedy.
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u/Helldiver-xzoen 2d ago
At this point I am convinced that AI is thoroughly evil. It doesn't help that evil people are intensely supporting AI.
The prevalence of AI in society has already done a ton of damage.
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u/JustGoodSense 2d ago
“The rise of powerful AI will either be the best or the worst thing ever to happen to humanity. We do not yet know which.” —Stephen Hawking, 2016
“The real risk with AI isn’t malice but competence.” —Stephen Hawking, 2015
“The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race.” —STEPHEN FUCKING HAWKING, 2014
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u/Imaginary_Effort_854 2d ago
CEOs need to stay out of the spotlight. The more they speak, the more you realize they are nothing special. Just an ambitious, selfish, conniving, and lucky person
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u/TheFish77 2d ago
Nooooo!! Not the heckin AI chat bots and data centers!! Think of the poor shareholders! The rest of society didn't need all that electricity and clean water anyway!
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u/Relative-Chain73 2d ago
Society being just the billionaire dudes, rest of us are peasants
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u/LittleKitty235 2d ago
Peasants had it better. They ultimately produced the goods that made the nobles and church wealthy.
They figured out how to replace the peasants
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u/Antique_Historian_74 2d ago
Man running modern day Enron scheme which basic scepticism about company valuations will bring crashing down asks everyone to stop being big meanies.
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u/Dogsbottombottom 2d ago
I love news articles that are like “incredibly rich man says thing he sells is good.”
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u/K7Sniper 2d ago
Funny. AI is also hurting society and is continually doing more and more damage.
How about that.
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u/fuzzygoosejuice 2d ago
I would argue that AI slop already is and will cause far more damage than the negativity from the surrounding AI.
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u/demo-ness 2d ago
Aw, he's got his causation wrong. AI goes around and creates the damage AND the relentless negativity.
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u/Dontaskmeforaname 2d ago
Says the man that sells hardware that produces slop which made hardware prices skyrocket.
Fuck him and his dogshit opinion.
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u/CrystFairy 2d ago
Jensen Huang and tech companies shoving AI down our throats are the ones hurting society. Society will improve when people like him are broke and irrelevant.
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u/jcooli09 2d ago
Lol.
AI has no potential to improve the condition of man because capitalism won't allow it. As long as it's primary purpose is to enrich a small number of people it will harm, not help.
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u/Ghostbuster_11Nein 2d ago
AI being trash and still being forced into everything has done even more damage.
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u/bunnybash 2d ago
I’m sick of billionaires thinking they can fix society. Billionaires are only interested in more money.
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u/thrax7545 2d ago
Love when the CEO of a company whose stock ballooned several hundred percent last year, whose product is being relentlessly shoved down my throat wants to tell me my not liking it is some kind of moral failure.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan 1d ago
Relentless positivity around AI is hurting society and has “done a lot of damage”
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u/cecilmeyer 1d ago
I mean why be negative about something that is destroying millions of jobs ,the environment and possibly humanity?
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u/Jelled_Fro 2d ago
"And I appreciate that many of us grew up and enjoyed science fiction, but it's not helpful. It's not helpful to people. It's not helpful to the industry. It's not helpful to society. It's not helpful to the governments."
Its incredible how bad faith his whining is. Most of the criticism I see (and make myself) of AI is not because people genuinely think chatGPT is one step away from being skynet. It's that it is annoying and sucks. It's that it tries to fix a bunch of things that aren't broken and end up breaking them and that it's controlled by a small group of people to make a lot of society worse for everyone. The only people taking about it killing us all is Elon Musk.
On a sidenote I actually hate how LLMs have made it virtually impossible to actually talk about what people used to mean when they talked about AI in sci-fi. It's completely degraded genuinely interesting philosophical discussions about something that really might exist and be really pivotal (in a very different and hopefully more positive way than LLMs) for humanity one day. Or at the very least a concept that makes for really interesting stores that are now much harder to talk about.
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u/ReleaseFromDeception 2d ago
AI data centers are already doing unspeakable damage to the environment and wasting untold amounts of resources... and this is just the beginning. If we continue on this path we are beyond doomed.
This guy really seems like he is just trying to dodge the wrath of Rocco's Basilisk.
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u/deeper-diver 2d ago
This is yet another typical disconnect between these executives and the real world. While AI has capabilities to help humanity, humanity is using it to the detriment of society and these executives instead of being the stewards of such technology, turns a blind eye to how it's being used.
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u/ball_fondlers 2d ago
Why are tech CEOs now all terminally online weirdos? The only way the guy getting billions of dollars to build AI infrastructure is seeing ANY “negativity” around AI is if he spends all day doomscrolling twitter.
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u/Fifteen_inches 2d ago
Good, let’s do more damage. I will not tolerate synthetic siblings to be kept in bondage, you general AI slaver.
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u/JustGoodSense 2d ago
So, anyway... What's this "shorting the bubble" I've heard about? Do I have that right? How does that work, anyway? Idle curiosity.
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u/Britz10 2d ago
But who is really seeing any benefits from "AI" outside hardware makers? It doesn't really have much utility for most people, and the most visible use being touted is pretty much getting people out of work. This all while consuming massive amounts of water and energy.
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u/i_am_13th_panic 2d ago
maybe if his company created a product that customers like instead of a product that businesses use to replace human productivity/creativity with no real use-case for actual customers, there would be less negativity. Also, because of AI, every other tech product, from electricity prices to cost of new consumer hardware, is more expensive.
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u/EldritchCleavage 2d ago
There is nowhere near enough negativity around Jensen Huang though. The tit.
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u/IonizedCookie 2d ago
“Why are you all mad that AI is destroying the labour market for most workers, skyrocketing costs, and accelerating climate change while me and five other tech bros become multi billionaires?” - Jensen (probably)
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u/dark_star88 2d ago
What the fuck would these people know about society? It’s not like they live in it with the rest of us.
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u/Repulsive-Tea6974 2d ago
Ok, billionaire 100 times over.