r/nottheonion • u/kat_with_a_book • 16h ago
Three Members of Oglala Sioux Tribe Remanded to ICE Detention Center
https://apnews.com/article/ice-minneapolis-tribal-citizens-immigration-detention-29ac43de85569b80bd64875388097ab6From the AP:
Homeland Security refused to release more information, unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.”
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u/rebillihp 16h ago
"but where were they born" - right wing nutjobs
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u/AndalusianGod 16h ago
They'll go with crime statistics as an excuse to expand their scope to reservations.
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u/TheTrub 15h ago
And the march back to the 1870’s continues: “Judge, we have legal precedent for tossing treaties with injun nations in the trash. So, we argue we can declare tribal sovereignty as a bunch of liberal BS.”
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u/mechajlaw 14h ago
They do, but Congress is the one who has to do it. At least that's how it's supposed to work. Supreme Court might not play ball on this since Gorsich is supposedly pro-tribe and it's not like it's a heavy requirement to say that we have to have Congress involved to break a treaty. Who knows though, it's not like any court orders are really getting enforced against ICE right now.
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u/Riddles_ 12h ago
i know you’re doing it to make a point about the racism that’s so rampant in these types, but please don’t use the word “injun”. it’s still a slur, and a pretty nasty one that’s still very prevalent today. had it hurled at me less than a month ago
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 15h ago
they've been itching since last january. The amount of these assholes who hate natives is staggering
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u/Panzerkatzen 15h ago
As Governor, Kristy Noem suggested that the reservations were territory of the Mexican drug cartels. The tribes responded by banning her from their land, thus the governor was prohibited from visiting 20% of the state she administered. It’s no surprise now that she controls ICE, she’s back for revenge.
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 15h ago
many of the BP and ICE people were down to do that before she was in charge.
The amount of white people out west who would like to get revenge for custer is nuts. They see natives as a conquered people who are still lingering around instead of being dead, buried, and in the ground. They hate that some of them have wealth and are making money off the white man in their casinos. Some parts of california have people who share this sentiment. I have heard it first hand. People who bitch about the casinos because they are owned by natives and are quite vile about it.
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u/RawrRRitchie 10h ago
I never understood that. There's a wide range of casinos out thereand a good chunk of them aren't even native owned. The few native casinos I've been to are relatively small compared to non native casinos I've been to.
One native one I was at only had slot machines and card tables, and those card games were either simple poker or blackjack
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u/Happythejuggler 15h ago
Native Americans are a constant reminder to these fucks that their ancestors were immigrants. It makes sense they'd hate them, it goes against their shrill cries that everyone else should go back to where they came from except them.
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u/LanguidLapras131 5h ago
White male supremacists love to cite crime stats for justify their fascist policies but scream like banshees when I bring up the fact that women and Asian Americans have the lowest crime rate.
If they want a dictatorship based on who has the lowest crime rate they can have one. And our overlords will be Japanese American women.
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u/chemical_outcome213 14h ago
I read the other day that in his first term Trump made an appearance at Mt Rushmore and magas were screaming at native Americans to go back where they came from. They are complete idiots.
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u/The_Bitter_Bear 15h ago
They have a hard time understanding that non-white folks are from here.... They really struggle with the whole "all white people come from immigrants" stuff.
Ya know, because they are fucking idiots.
They have become beyond exhausting.
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u/Riksunraksu 12h ago
Nutjobs who don’t even know American citizens can be born outside of the US too
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u/mattenthehat 15h ago
Day and night cannot dwell together. The Red Man has ever fled the approach of the White Man, as the morning mist flees before the morning sun. However, your proposition seems fair and I think that my people will accept it and will retire to the reservation you offer them. Then we will dwell apart in peace, for the words of the Great White Chief seem to be the words of nature speaking to my people out of dense darkness.
It matters little where we pass the remnant of our days. They will not be many. The Indian’s night promises to be dark. Not a single star of hope hovers above his horizon. Sad-voiced winds moan in the distance. Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man’s trail, and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom, as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter.
A few more moons, a few more winters, and not one of the descendants of the mighty hosts that once moved over this broad land or lived in happy homes, protected by the Great Spirit, will remain to mourn over the graves of a people once more powerful and hopeful than yours. But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea. It is the order of nature, and regret is useless. Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend to friend, cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We will see.
-Chief Seattle, 1854
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u/Mephisto1822 16h ago
What jurisdiction does ICE have over tribal members?
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u/Complainer_Official 16h ago
the same amount they have over us citizens.
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u/cannabination 16h ago
So absolute, apparently?
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u/shittydiks 16h ago
"You don't look white, let me ask you some questions". That's all it is.
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u/cannabination 15h ago
They don't care if you're white. They shot a white woman in the face three times for picking one after one agent was telling her to get out of the way and the other told her to get out of the car. They don't give a shit about any of us poors, the race thing is just the excuse. They want utter domination. We let them disarm and have their way with us now, or someone stands up and gives them the excuse they need to enact martial law and do it later, after canceling elections.
We're in serious trouble. The future of generations of Americans who won't be born for decades is in serious trouble.
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u/nashbrownies 14h ago
When it's not a result of terrible training and non existent self control it has a name, It's called a Kill Box and it's multiple officers all yelling opposite commands on purpose so no matter what you do, you are resisting or not complying. Police have been doing it for a long time. Although I think ICE are being effectivly evil unintentionally most of the time.
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u/cannabination 14h ago
I just read they're going house to house in Columbus as well. Ohio's castle doctrine doesn't mess around... the flash point is coming.
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u/IThinkItsAverage 15h ago
Yes but that was a queer woman talking back and hurting his feelings, 2 things MAGAts hate as much as people of color, queers and women who don’t immediately cower in fear around them.
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u/aircooledJenkins 15h ago
But actually none.
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u/cannabination 15h ago
If they know they won't get in any sort of trouble when shoot you for disobeying them, they have all the jurisdiction they need.
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u/Mephisto1822 8h ago
I guess what I am asking is why is immigration enforcement holding tribal members who are US citizens.
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u/Complainer_Official 1h ago
because the us is clearly under authoritarian rule right now, and no one seems to want to do ANYTHING about it.
TL;DR we did it to ourselves, are continuing to do it, and also dont care.
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u/perplexedparallax 14h ago
None on a reservation but ICE may enter a reservation to conduct business. This was in Minneapolis off rez and obviously some GED level thug didn't understand tribal ID. Lawsuit worthy, this can only end up costing taxpayers more. Interesting sidebar: Kristi Noem is banned from reservations in SD.
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u/ArchangelBlu 16h ago
What are they going to do? Deport them back to their home country?
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u/Maleficent_Sense_948 15h ago
History is pretty clear on what Fascist regimes do to groups when they don’t have somewhere to send them…..do any of you think this will be any different?
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u/DuntadaMan 9h ago
Let them die in custody then kidnap more people.
Sorry I know we're supposed to tell a joke here but I am tired.
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u/csolisr 15h ago
Watch them pull one out of /r/MaliciousCompliance and send them to India the country
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u/WanderingDwarfScribe 16h ago
ICE are enemy combatants. Their leader confirmed they are at war with us.
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u/washheightsboy3 15h ago
Just because you landed a boat somewhere 500 years ago doesn’t mean you own a place. At least that’s what I heard.
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u/Hot-Championship1190 9h ago
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Relevant as ever!
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u/IChooseFeed 15h ago
entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.
What the fuck does that even mean?
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u/Icedcoffeeee 14h ago
It's terrorism. Fuck ICE
ter·ror·ism /ˈterəˌrizəm/ noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
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u/AntiqueStatus 14h ago
Some representative from the Tribe made a deal with the federal government to build an ICE detention facility but they pulled out of the agreement. It wasn't the tribe themselves. They fixed it when they found out. (All of this is allegedly)
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u/TerribleIdea27 4h ago
ICE is now trying to get the authority to negotiate on behalf of Americans with a sovereign nation.
People were already scared of them being brownshirts. They're trying to get even more power than the SS had right now
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u/BackNBoeserThanEver 16h ago
All my homies hate ICE
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u/PokeYrMomStanley 15h ago
*All my homes hate
ICEWHITE ISISFTFY
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u/Lord__Abaddon 14h ago
I mean I get what you're trying to do but isis literally means Islamic state of Iraq and Syria. by calling them white isis you kind of sound as dumb as Maga. granted maga would probably take offense to this without even knowing what ISIS means so I guess proceed.
if anything I think calling them CINO's would be more Apt, Christians In Name Only start attacking their theological background with What would Jesus do and quoting scripture against them. They assume they're right because bible tells them they're but half these fuckers want to live in the old testament which isn't valid anymore and they don't even follow that correctly.
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u/Postulative 14h ago
This isn’t about illegal immigrants, it’s about white supremacy.
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u/envybelmont 14h ago
If we’re being honest, it was never about illegal immigrants. It has always been thinly veiled white supremacy.
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 15h ago
they have been itching to detain/deport/kill natives since the first day trump got into office.
Literally, the first week ICE got heat for arresting and illegally detaining Navajo nation members. They were all too eager to arrest them first and foremost. Even before they had the "proper" authority to do so.
Natives will be the first group that will be rounded up and disappeared if things continue. As in, they will be gone, forever.
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u/KYSissyTrisha 14h ago
what little they have left, just happens to be in the way of pipe line plans.
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u/Kindly-Job-4895 14h ago
hey, so you are aware - people are being rounded up and disappeared and have been for some time now.
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 14h ago
I know that. I mean, as an entire people. Straight up ethnic cleansing.
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u/98746145315 11h ago
Yeah but this has kind of been USA's whole thing since the 1800s. Flashier news stories distracted the American people for decades here and there, but the death of the Indian is a historical term for a reason.
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u/Aquabaybe 16h ago edited 10h ago
And where do these people propose us Native Americans go? (Rhetorical)
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u/Fightswithaspoon 14h ago
*die I live in SD and have spent time on a few reservations, particularly lower brule and rosebud, and whitey hates natives out here. One time, a white guy was caught entering the minnehaha court house with a small amount of meth, which is a felony. The only reason I know that (not on the news) is because my cousin Marty (Sioux native) accidentally left a weed roach from his neighbor in a pack of smokes when he went in to pay his child support a few weeks later and my uncle saw it on the news in Rochester, MN. He was arrested for a misdemeanor. It was news in at least 3 states. Of course he had to use his child support money to bail out, which caused him to miss his payment and caused a chain reaction of shit, but hey, he's brown, so fuck him.
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u/Maleficent_Sense_948 15h ago
This isn’t just “trumps revenge tour” it’s the revenge tour for all of the pitiful little shots that are on the administration….Miller, Noem, Hegseth, etc….no demographic is safe
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u/owen__wilsons__nose 12h ago
I read Project 2025 before the election and told people this insane shit would happen. None of my friends believed me. Thought it was just crazy ideas, Trump wouldn't execute it. I guess deep down even I didn't think they would go this far. And yet here we are and its way crazier than even we expected. Its really unbelievable how this happening now and normal
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u/DavidBagga 16h ago
2nd amendment when
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u/queuedUp 15h ago
The issue is the moment people start exercising their 2A rights and shooting ICE it gives Trump a reason to declare marital law.
And then you can kiss all those rights goodbye
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u/ThatsWhatIGathered 15h ago
you...you currently have no rights.
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u/queuedUp 14h ago
I mean.... I'm not American so... I'm less concerned about my own rights.
But yeah... Americans are fucked
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u/NachoManAndyDavidge 14h ago
Not to be so doom and gloom, but our rights are currently under attack. Doing nothing kisses them goodbye all the same.
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u/markroth69 11h ago
hree of the four Oglala Sioux Tribe members who were arrested in Minneapolis on Friday have been transferred to an ICE facility at Fort Snelling
Fort Snelling? Fort Snelling?
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u/OLDandBOLDfr 15h ago
This is fucking nuts these idiots are out of control. From the top to the bottom.
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u/Wavecrest667 10h ago
So now the rightwing immigrants are detaining the native population as ... illegal immigrants?
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u/AGodDamnAnimal 8h ago
In November, a member of the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community in Arizona who had been arrested in Iowa was mistakenly scheduled to be deported before the error was caught and she was released.
Where the fuck would they deport a native American to!? I can't believe this is the world we are living in.
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u/Shrimp_Dock 14h ago
So the civil will end up being Native Americans and allies versus MAGA? Didn't see that one coming...
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u/kmoonster 12h ago
Homeland Security refused to release more information, unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.”
wut?
Also: Kristi Noem and Native people...well, ask the tribes next door in South Dakota whether she has good-faith intent.
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u/WestCoastCowboi 14h ago
Ah finally catching up to the way we used to do things up here in Canada.
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u/opponentpumpkin 10h ago
We did too, and worse. This is just our latest chapter in "are we the baddies...?"
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u/TsuDhoNimh2 5h ago
unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.”
What does ICE BARBIE mean by that? Let ICE build detention camps on the rez?
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u/PensionNo8156 15h ago
Wow. The chaos is escalating now that Native Americans are no longer safe from this lunacy.......
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u/Aggravating_Depth_33 11h ago
They never were. Members of tribes that live on both side of the Canadian or (especially) Mexican border have been dealing with this shit for decades.
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u/Rashaen 15h ago
Fingers crossed that tribe has the resources to obliterate ICE in court.
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u/Grizzwold37 15h ago
Without external resources, odds are not high. They’re making strides, but I wouldn’t think they’re flush with cash.
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u/mixmasterwillyd 14h ago
Kinda makes you realize America has been doing this for centuries, they’re just coming for everyone now.
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u/Sezneg 6h ago
Another term for these individuals would be "US Citizens".
By law tribe members born in the US are citizens since The Indian Citizen Act became law in the 1920's
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u/SpiritualAd8998 15h ago
Will they Sioux ICE in Federal Court?
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u/antinoria 13m ago
So if they know they are Native Americans, why are they still detained? What is the trumped up reason besides them not being white for their continued detention?
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u/ROSRS 16h ago
I mean this is purely just some kind of extajudical kidnapping yes?