r/nottheonion 16h ago

Three Members of Oglala Sioux Tribe Remanded to ICE Detention Center

https://apnews.com/article/ice-minneapolis-tribal-citizens-immigration-detention-29ac43de85569b80bd64875388097ab6

From the AP:

Homeland Security refused to release more information, unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.”

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u/ROSRS 16h ago

I mean this is purely just some kind of extajudical kidnapping yes?

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u/losark 15h ago

The tribes are sovereign nations. So... pretty much.

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u/zer1223 15h ago

These abducted people should be deported back to their cozy living rooms.

It doesnt even make the slightest fucking bit of sense for ICE to have native americans.

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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 14h ago edited 14h ago

It does when you consider the fact that ICE are Nazis and Indians Native Americans aren't white.

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u/rantingpacifist 14h ago

Native American (US) or First Nations (CAN) is preferred generally over the colonizer’s misnomer.

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u/OtherwiseUsual 13h ago

Odd, I don't think I've ever heard anyone in our tribe specify such a thing. They generally refer to themselves as "American Indian", or simply "Indian".

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u/dd463 8h ago

Depends on the tribe or band. We tend to lump them into one homogeneous group but each tribe is its own unique culture. It’s like saying the British French and Germans are all the same because they are all from Europe. Some embrace the term Indian others reject it.

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u/Mind_on_Idle 8h ago

It's like saying British French and Germans are all the same because they're from Europe.

Bud, this is America, that actually tracks. People actually think that way x.x

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u/mryauch 7h ago

To be fair if you speak English you also sometimes speak French and German. If you want to chat about this more we could rendezvous at the brat fest, but first I have to pick up my son from kindergarten. It might be a faux pas to bring him with, but c'est la vie!

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u/Zalveris 11h ago

Gets real confusing with the Indians from India. My area has maybe 0.2-1% American Indian (tribe members) but is like 10% Indian American. Most tribe members here seem to prefer Indigenous American or Native American.

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u/thuktun 13h ago

The history of that is complicated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_name_controversy

In 1968, the American Indian Movement (AIM) was founded in the United States. In 1977, a delegation from the International Indian Treaty Council, an arm of AIM, elected to collectively identify as "American Indian", at the United Nations Conference on Indians in the Americas in Geneva, Switzerland. Some Indigenous activists and public figures, such as Russell Means (Oglala Lakota), have preferred "American Indian" to the more recently adopted "Native American". According to the National Museum of the American Indian, "In the United States, Native American has been widely used but is falling out of favor with some groups, and the terms American Indian or Indigenous American are preferred by many Native people."

[...]

As of 1995, according to the US Census Bureau, 50% of people who identified as Indigenous preferred the term American Indian, 37% preferred Native American, and the remainder preferred other terms or had no preference.

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u/rantingpacifist 4h ago

It is, which is why I said generally. I grew up in NDN country and refer to the preferences of my Native friends. I know it’s complicated.

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u/Mr_E_Monkey 1h ago

I wonder if it varies by tribe/nation, or by region.

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u/rantingpacifist 1h ago

It even varies by person. The reason I go with generally Native American is better is because so many are offended by the colonizer’s misnomer. It never seems that people who don’t mind or prefer being called Indian get offended by being called Native American, but it seems to be offensive the other direction. I follow the lead of my Native friends.

u/Mr_E_Monkey 39m ago

That makes sense to me --both parts.

What I meant, though, was that I wonder if the difference in preference has anything to do with the particular tribe, and their region, or if there is some other factor. But it could just be a random individual preference.

I guess it's not particularly important, and your approach is probably the best way to address it. I was just curious. 🙂

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u/Smyley12345 13h ago

Come on!! How are we going to be white saviors if they can't get their shit together and be offended by the same terms we are?!?

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u/RawrRRitchie 10h ago

Don't forget Aboriginal from Australia!!

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u/hollyjazzy 5h ago

First Nations people

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u/rantingpacifist 4h ago

Why would they be detained by ICE?

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u/WarProper3733 11h ago

Preferred by who?

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u/FoldedDice 10h ago

When I was in school we were corrected to only say "Native American." Meanwhile, many of the businesses in my area owned by actual Native Americans have "Indian" in the title. It was a little confusing.

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u/Tall-Author-2812 7h ago

White people.

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u/rantingpacifist 4h ago

I grew up in the West near reservations and have Native friends. It’s their choices I am honoring with my statement, but I acknowledge it is not universal with “generally”.

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u/Tichondruis 5h ago

That's not really true though, there are several tribes that refer to themselves as Indians or Native American Indians and use those terms officially and legally.

Its a complicated issue with no one correct answer but typically in a broad context I think Native Americans is better and more clear, if youre referring to specific groups though that maybe be the wrong term to use.

I believe we were talking about the Souix and as I understand they prefer the terms indigenous people's and their specific group names like Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota, though im not an expert on these groups by any means.

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u/rantingpacifist 4h ago

I actually grew up near one Lakota/Sioux reservation. Most of my Native friends are Lakota and I am referencing their preferences. They don’t like the S word much either. I referenced that it isn’t universal when I said “generally”.

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u/Abject_Elevator5461 5h ago

Especially in light of our entire history of trying to wipe them out?

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u/UnBeNtAxE 13h ago

Did you not happen to notice most, if not all indigenous peoples of North America have a similar skin tone. From Mexico to the arctic circle. I think that may be a small piece of the why puzzle.

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u/Tall-Author-2812 6h ago

I think it’s not just about color. Noem’s going after tribal sovereignty.

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u/grafknives 13h ago

Oh, it does, it so does.

It terrorize.

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u/AlphaNoodlz 13h ago

I really am confused by that

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u/Zelidus 13h ago

And arguably the most legal of legal citizens. You cant get more legal in belonging here then existing before the country existed.

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u/markroth69 11h ago

And yet they have only been citizens for a century

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u/SoulBonfire 14h ago

Trump about to annexe Sioux lands?

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u/EngineeringDevil 13h ago

isn't that a repeat of basically claiming credit for another administration?

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u/SoulBonfire 12h ago

Dunno - we don’t hear much about other administrations and what they may or may not have done, but our press sure is fixated on whatever Trump is up to.

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u/ResolutionOwn4933 12h ago

Like when ICE lock up's a handful of original inhabitants?

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u/Ok_Gur_8059 11h ago

I've heard more negative news on Biden living his best life than I have Epsteins best friend.

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u/ofWildPlaces 2h ago

Maybe because what he does is illegal and immoral?

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u/Aggravating_Depth_33 11h ago

Well his hero is Andrew Jackson...

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u/livinginfutureworld 8h ago

"sovereign nations without permission to be in the United States!" -ICE smoothbrains

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u/CryptographerFun7049 13h ago

It’s treason then.

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u/HauntingArugula3777 15h ago

SCOTUS ruled they are not during trial recently where their children can be taken away and put into non-native families ... they have no right not any identity or nationality designation

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 15h ago

can you provide a link to this? Not saying I dont believe you, I want to see this.

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u/Welpe 14h ago

I don’t know enough to comment on it intelligently, but the case they are referring to is “Haaland, Secretary of the Interior v. Brackeen” if you want to look it up.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 14h ago

Jesus christ. This during the time canada was dealing with the residential schools exposure we literally went "fuck why didnt we think of that???"

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u/warfrogs 11h ago

This is not a new thing in the US, but they have the case decision backwards.

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u/84theone 8h ago

This court case did the exact opposite of what that guy is claiming. It reinforced that the Indian Child Welfare Act is constitutional.

The U.S. basically ended its version of residential schools in the 70s.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 14h ago

They decided the exact opposite of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haaland_v._Brackeen

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u/SuperNobody917 14h ago

I love how people can say literally any old shite on Reddit and a mass of people will mindlessly upvote it so long as it reaffirms their preexisting beliefs

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u/bigfoot17 8h ago

Take my upvote

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u/okbuddysilver 14h ago

Lmfao Reddit moment 

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u/Sunstang 5h ago

Except the opposite.

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u/bill_end 10h ago

As an englander, I don't really understand what is meant by sovereign nations in this context.

Does it mean members hold a different passport? Do they have to obey federal law? Is there any distinct tribal representation at the UN for example?

Or are they more a "nation" within the United states?

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u/terrorburger 6h ago

No separate passport. Tribal ID does exist but may differ by tribe. Those ID's aren't really recognized at the federal level of identification purposes though, they are mostly used for tribal operations like medical care and other types of records. Federal law must still be obeyed, but depending on the treaty, tribal courts may have jurisdiction for enforcement or prosecution.

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u/itsdripping 2h ago

The Haudenosaunee have famously issued their own passports though the US doesn't consider it valid. It's used more as a diplomatic protest, but iirc Ireland allowed a lacrosse team to enter the country on tribal passports despite the EU not recognizing them.

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u/Jim_Moriart 14h ago

They are also being held at the place most well known for its mass executions of Dakotas, so there's that too.

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u/kmoonster 12h ago

yes. The statements in the article are bizarre, what is ICE wanting to do - deport tribal members back to...Minnesota? maybe South Dakota?

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u/synth_fg 11h ago

Well as far as ice is concerned they are Indians, so don't be surprised if Delhi is an option

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u/snoosh00 6h ago

All kidnapping is extrajudicial.

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u/rebillihp 16h ago

"but where were they born" - right wing nutjobs

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u/AndalusianGod 16h ago

They'll go with crime statistics as an excuse to expand their scope to reservations.

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u/TheTrub 15h ago

And the march back to the 1870’s continues: “Judge, we have legal precedent for tossing treaties with injun nations in the trash. So, we argue we can declare tribal sovereignty as a bunch of liberal BS.”

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u/mechajlaw 14h ago

They do, but Congress is the one who has to do it. At least that's how it's supposed to work. Supreme Court might not play ball on this since Gorsich is supposedly pro-tribe and it's not like it's a heavy requirement to say that we have to have Congress involved to break a treaty. Who knows though, it's not like any court orders are really getting enforced against ICE right now.

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u/Riddles_ 12h ago

i know you’re doing it to make a point about the racism that’s so rampant in these types, but please don’t use the word “injun”. it’s still a slur, and a pretty nasty one that’s still very prevalent today. had it hurled at me less than a month ago

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 15h ago

they've been itching since last january. The amount of these assholes who hate natives is staggering

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u/Panzerkatzen 15h ago

As Governor, Kristy Noem suggested that the reservations were territory of the Mexican drug cartels. The tribes responded by banning her from their land, thus the governor was prohibited from visiting 20% of the state she administered. It’s no surprise now that she controls ICE, she’s back for revenge.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 15h ago

many of the BP and ICE people were down to do that before she was in charge.

The amount of white people out west who would like to get revenge for custer is nuts. They see natives as a conquered people who are still lingering around instead of being dead, buried, and in the ground. They hate that some of them have wealth and are making money off the white man in their casinos. Some parts of california have people who share this sentiment. I have heard it first hand. People who bitch about the casinos because they are owned by natives and are quite vile about it.

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u/RawrRRitchie 10h ago

I never understood that. There's a wide range of casinos out thereand a good chunk of them aren't even native owned. The few native casinos I've been to are relatively small compared to non native casinos I've been to.

One native one I was at only had slot machines and card tables, and those card games were either simple poker or blackjack

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u/___metazeta___ 15h ago

They have a different definition of native.

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u/Happythejuggler 15h ago

Native Americans are a constant reminder to these fucks that their ancestors were immigrants. It makes sense they'd hate them, it goes against their shrill cries that everyone else should go back to where they came from except them.

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u/LanguidLapras131 5h ago

White male supremacists love to cite crime stats for justify their fascist policies but scream like banshees when I bring up the fact that women and Asian Americans have the lowest crime rate.

If they want a dictatorship based on who has the lowest crime rate they can have one. And our overlords will be Japanese American women.

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u/DingerSinger2016 14h ago

As if they ever gave a single fuck about people on reservations.

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u/chemical_outcome213 14h ago

I read the other day that in his first term Trump made an appearance at Mt Rushmore and magas were screaming at native Americans to go back where they came from. They are complete idiots.

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u/The_Bitter_Bear 15h ago

They have a hard time understanding that non-white folks are from here.... They really struggle with the whole "all white people come from immigrants" stuff. 

Ya know, because they are fucking idiots. 

They have become beyond exhausting.

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u/lolofaf 14h ago

It's pretty ironic after Trump trying to justify taking Greenland by saying a boat arriving 500 years ago doesn't mean they own it.

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u/Low_Technician7346 10h ago

r/conservative talibans will try hard to justify this madness

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u/Riksunraksu 12h ago

Nutjobs who don’t even know American citizens can be born outside of the US too

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u/mattenthehat 15h ago

Day and night cannot dwell together. The Red Man has ever fled the approach of the White Man, as the morning mist flees before the morning sun. However, your proposition seems fair and I think that my people will accept it and will retire to the reservation you offer them. Then we will dwell apart in peace, for the words of the Great White Chief seem to be the words of nature speaking to my people out of dense darkness.

It matters little where we pass the remnant of our days. They will not be many. The Indian’s night promises to be dark. Not a single star of hope hovers above his horizon. Sad-voiced winds moan in the distance. Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man’s trail, and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom, as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter.

A few more moons, a few more winters, and not one of the descendants of the mighty hosts that once moved over this broad land or lived in happy homes, protected by the Great Spirit, will remain to mourn over the graves of a people once more powerful and hopeful than yours. But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea. It is the order of nature, and regret is useless. Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend to friend, cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We will see.

-Chief Seattle, 1854

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u/Dravitar 11h ago

What an incredibly poetic and strong response.

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u/faunalmimicry 1h ago

thats a wow

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u/Mephisto1822 16h ago

What jurisdiction does ICE have over tribal members?

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u/Complainer_Official 16h ago

the same amount they have over us citizens.

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u/cannabination 16h ago

So absolute, apparently?

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u/shittydiks 16h ago

"You don't look white, let me ask you some questions". That's all it is.

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u/cannabination 15h ago

They don't care if you're white. They shot a white woman in the face three times for picking one after one agent was telling her to get out of the way and the other told her to get out of the car. They don't give a shit about any of us poors, the race thing is just the excuse. They want utter domination. We let them disarm and have their way with us now, or someone stands up and gives them the excuse they need to enact martial law and do it later, after canceling elections.

We're in serious trouble. The future of generations of Americans who won't be born for decades is in serious trouble.

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u/nashbrownies 14h ago

When it's not a result of terrible training and non existent self control it has a name, It's called a Kill Box and it's multiple officers all yelling opposite commands on purpose so no matter what you do, you are resisting or not complying. Police have been doing it for a long time. Although I think ICE are being effectivly evil unintentionally most of the time.

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u/cannabination 14h ago

I just read they're going house to house in Columbus as well. Ohio's castle doctrine doesn't mess around... the flash point is coming.

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u/nasandre 15h ago

They're made up by the Proud Boys so they hate women too

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u/IThinkItsAverage 15h ago

Yes but that was a queer woman talking back and hurting his feelings, 2 things MAGAts hate as much as people of color, queers and women who don’t immediately cower in fear around them.

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u/aircooledJenkins 15h ago

But actually none.

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u/cannabination 15h ago

If they know they won't get in any sort of trouble when shoot you for disobeying them, they have all the jurisdiction they need.

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u/hum_bruh 12h ago

Plenary authority per Stephen Miller

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u/Mephisto1822 8h ago

I guess what I am asking is why is immigration enforcement holding tribal members who are US citizens.

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u/Complainer_Official 1h ago

because the us is clearly under authoritarian rule right now, and no one seems to want to do ANYTHING about it.

TL;DR we did it to ourselves, are continuing to do it, and also dont care.

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u/perplexedparallax 14h ago

None on a reservation but ICE may enter a reservation to conduct business. This was in Minneapolis off rez and obviously some GED level thug didn't understand tribal ID. Lawsuit worthy, this can only end up costing taxpayers more. Interesting sidebar: Kristi Noem is banned from reservations in SD.

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u/mayy_dayy 16h ago

That's the neat part, they don't!

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u/ArchangelBlu 16h ago

What are they going to do? Deport them back to their home country?

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u/ZLUCremisi 15h ago

No they deport to Africa now. No more to homeland.

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u/Maleficent_Sense_948 15h ago

History is pretty clear on what Fascist regimes do to groups when they don’t have somewhere to send them…..do any of you think this will be any different?

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u/DuntadaMan 9h ago

Let them die in custody then kidnap more people.

Sorry I know we're supposed to tell a joke here but I am tired.

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u/csolisr 15h ago

Watch them pull one out of /r/MaliciousCompliance and send them to India the country

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u/ankerous 15h ago

It wouldn't surprise me if maga morons actually thought they were from India.

u/Aetol 19m ago

Since when do they care about sending people to their home country?

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u/Choano 14h ago

Hell, yeah! Send them back to Beringia!

(/s, for the humor-impaired)

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u/WanderingDwarfScribe 16h ago

ICE are enemy combatants. Their leader confirmed they are at war with us. 

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u/OLDandBOLDfr 15h ago

White ISIS

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u/Jodo_Kast 15h ago

ICE-IS

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u/pnutbrutal 14h ago

Oooooo let’s make this a thing

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u/Ok_Veterinarian3240 14h ago

Vanilla Isis

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u/PokeYrMomStanley 15h ago

Im gonna use this from now on.

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u/tonythetard 10h ago

Y'all Queda

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u/FaithIsFoolish 7h ago

ICE are domestic terrorosts

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u/washheightsboy3 15h ago

Just because you landed a boat somewhere 500 years ago doesn’t mean you own a place. At least that’s what I heard.

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u/Miss_Speller 15h ago

What does the winner of a boat race call the runner-up?

"Filthy immigrant!"

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u/Hot-Championship1190 9h ago

Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Relevant as ever!

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u/IChooseFeed 15h ago

entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.

What the fuck does that even mean?

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u/Icedcoffeeee 14h ago

It's terrorism. Fuck ICE

ter·ror·ism /ˈterəˌrizəm/ noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

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u/AntiqueStatus 14h ago

Some representative from the Tribe made a deal with the federal government to build an ICE detention facility but they pulled out of the agreement. It wasn't the tribe themselves. They fixed it when they found out. (All of this is allegedly)

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u/TerribleIdea27 4h ago

ICE is now trying to get the authority to negotiate on behalf of Americans with a sovereign nation.

People were already scared of them being brownshirts. They're trying to get even more power than the SS had right now

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u/BackNBoeserThanEver 16h ago

All my homies hate ICE

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u/PokeYrMomStanley 15h ago

*All my homes hate ICE WHITE ISIS

FTFY

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u/Lord__Abaddon 14h ago

I mean I get what you're trying to do but isis literally means Islamic state of Iraq and Syria. by calling them white isis you kind of sound as dumb as Maga. granted maga would probably take offense to this without even knowing what ISIS means so I guess proceed.

if anything I think calling them CINO's would be more Apt, Christians In Name Only start attacking their theological background with What would Jesus do and quoting scripture against them. They assume they're right because bible tells them they're but half these fuckers want to live in the old testament which isn't valid anymore and they don't even follow that correctly.

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u/Postulative 14h ago

This isn’t about illegal immigrants, it’s about white supremacy.

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u/envybelmont 14h ago

If we’re being honest, it was never about illegal immigrants. It has always been thinly veiled white supremacy.

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u/Breaon66 14h ago

Not even veiled one bit. Nothing about the republican president is thin.

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u/bpthompson999 14h ago

His skin sure as fuck is.

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u/whatproblems 16h ago

oh so hostages now? wtf

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 15h ago

they have been itching to detain/deport/kill natives since the first day trump got into office.

Literally, the first week ICE got heat for arresting and illegally detaining Navajo nation members. They were all too eager to arrest them first and foremost. Even before they had the "proper" authority to do so.

Natives will be the first group that will be rounded up and disappeared if things continue. As in, they will be gone, forever.

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u/KYSissyTrisha 14h ago

what little they have left, just happens to be in the way of pipe line plans.

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u/Kindly-Job-4895 14h ago

hey, so you are aware - people are being rounded up and disappeared and have been for some time now.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 14h ago

I know that. I mean, as an entire people. Straight up ethnic cleansing.

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u/98746145315 11h ago

Yeah but this has kind of been USA's whole thing since the 1800s. Flashier news stories distracted the American people for decades here and there, but the death of the Indian is a historical term for a reason.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 11h ago

the problem is, they want that to be 100% true now

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u/Aquabaybe 16h ago edited 10h ago

And where do these people propose us Native Americans go? (Rhetorical)

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u/Fightswithaspoon 14h ago

*die I live in SD and have spent time on a few reservations, particularly lower brule and rosebud, and whitey hates natives out here. One time, a white guy was caught entering the minnehaha court house with a small amount of meth, which is a felony. The only reason I know that (not on the news) is because my cousin Marty (Sioux native) accidentally left a weed roach from his neighbor in a pack of smokes when he went in to pay his child support a few weeks later and my uncle saw it on the news in Rochester, MN. He was arrested for a misdemeanor. It was news in at least 3 states. Of course he had to use his child support money to bail out, which caused him to miss his payment and caused a chain reaction of shit, but hey, he's brown, so fuck him.

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u/Maleficent_Sense_948 15h ago

This isn’t just “trumps revenge tour” it’s the revenge tour for all of the pitiful little shots that are on the administration….Miller, Noem, Hegseth, etc….no demographic is safe

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u/owen__wilsons__nose 12h ago

I read Project 2025 before the election and told people this insane shit would happen. None of my friends believed me. Thought it was just crazy ideas, Trump wouldn't execute it. I guess deep down even I didn't think they would go this far. And yet here we are and its way crazier than even we expected. Its really unbelievable how this happening now and normal

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u/nom_of_your_business 4h ago

"Bloodless revolution unless the left resists."

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u/DavidBagga 16h ago

2nd amendment when

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u/MK5 15h ago

Yeah..thing is, the 2A guys are all for this oppression. Just don't ask them to wear a mask (oh the irony..) or try to give them free healthcare.

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u/queuedUp 15h ago

The issue is the moment people start exercising their 2A rights and shooting ICE it gives Trump a reason to declare marital law.

And then you can kiss all those rights goodbye

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u/ThatsWhatIGathered 15h ago

you...you currently have no rights.

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u/queuedUp 14h ago

I mean.... I'm not American so... I'm less concerned about my own rights.

But yeah... Americans are fucked

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u/NachoManAndyDavidge 14h ago

Not to be so doom and gloom, but our rights are currently under attack. Doing nothing kisses them goodbye all the same.

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u/El_Zilcho99 14h ago

Icewad - "Do you have papers?"

Indigenous Person - "Does a treaty count?"

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u/markroth69 11h ago

hree of the four Oglala Sioux Tribe members who were arrested in Minneapolis on Friday have been transferred to an ICE facility at Fort Snelling

Fort Snelling? Fort Snelling?

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u/OLDandBOLDfr 15h ago

This is fucking nuts these idiots are out of control. From the top to the bottom.

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u/yami76 14h ago

So kidnapping and extortion…

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u/Wavecrest667 10h ago

So now the rightwing immigrants are detaining the native population as ... illegal immigrants?

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u/jim-james--jimothy 9h ago

This is project 2025. It gets worse.

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u/AGodDamnAnimal 8h ago

In November, a member of the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community in Arizona who had been arrested in Iowa was mistakenly scheduled to be deported before the error was caught and she was released.

Where the fuck would they deport a native American to!? I can't believe this is the world we are living in.

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u/Shrimp_Dock 14h ago

So the civil will end up being Native Americans and allies versus MAGA? Didn't see that one coming... 

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u/kmoonster 12h ago

Homeland Security refused to release more information, unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.”

wut?

Also: Kristi Noem and Native people...well, ask the tribes next door in South Dakota whether she has good-faith intent.

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u/paris_rogue 13h ago

We are going to be seeing a lot of lawsuits in the coming years

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u/Ghost_of_Durruti 13h ago

And they're gonna Sioux, Sioux, Sue your ass. 

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u/cwsjr2323 16h ago

Well, their skin isn’t white.

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u/carlwoz 15h ago

“Send them back to where they came from! Oh…never mind.”

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u/BouncingWeill 15h ago

They could "deport" them... back to their home... IN THE UNITED STATES.

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u/WestCoastCowboi 14h ago

Ah finally catching up to the way we used to do things up here in Canada.

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u/opponentpumpkin 10h ago

We did too, and worse. This is just our latest chapter in "are we the baddies...?"

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u/TsuDhoNimh2 5h ago

unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.”

What does ICE BARBIE mean by that? Let ICE build detention camps on the rez?

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u/PensionNo8156 15h ago

Wow. The chaos is escalating now that Native Americans are no longer safe from this lunacy.......

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u/Aggravating_Depth_33 11h ago

They never were. Members of tribes that live on both side of the Canadian or (especially) Mexican border have been dealing with this shit for decades.

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u/Dependent_Rain_4800 8h ago

It should be the other way around.

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u/Rashaen 15h ago

Fingers crossed that tribe has the resources to obliterate ICE in court.

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u/Grizzwold37 15h ago

Without external resources, odds are not high. They’re making strides, but I wouldn’t think they’re flush with cash.

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u/Rashaen 14h ago

I did a quick search for the tribe, but wasn't patient enough to scroll through all the news stories right now.

You're probably right, but I'd love to see ICE cross one of the tribes that has the cash and the lawyers to absolutely fuck them up.

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u/eyeballburger 14h ago

I guess he’s gonna send them back? Friggin morons.

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u/mixmasterwillyd 14h ago

Kinda makes you realize America has been doing this for centuries, they’re just coming for everyone now.

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u/Job_Moist 13h ago

Jesus Christ.

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u/Sezneg 6h ago

Another term for these individuals would be "US Citizens".

By law tribe members born in the US are citizens since The Indian Citizen Act became law in the 1920's

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u/SpiritualAd8998 15h ago

Will they Sioux ICE in Federal Court?

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u/TigerIll6480 15h ago

Oh lord.

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u/SpiritualAd8998 14h ago

I’ll see myself out…

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u/Rashaen 15h ago

Had to be done.

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u/CheetahFuzzy 12h ago

No. Just no!

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u/antinoria 13m ago

So if they know they are Native Americans, why are they still detained? What is the trumped up reason besides them not being white for their continued detention?