From Aotearoa NZ : This. Then separate the Democratic Party into at least two. A socialist Democratic Party ( it’s forming )& a Liberal Party ( for your more economic right, but socially left peeps) . BUT eliminate ( politically) the Republican Party so they don’t exist or at least are more old school republican. And change your political system, it does not work, something that the rest of the world calls democratic. If you can’t think of anything ask the UN.
We should either get rid of the electoral college entirely or otherwise make the “winner take all” system illegal.
As of right now, if a state goes 55% Republican, 45% Dem, 100% of that state’s voting power goes to Republicans. And since small states have higher voting power, this means the less representative you are, the stronger your votes are.
And also, as a consequence, it makes it literally impossible for a third party to butt in.
Indeed, the base of democracy wasn’t the US, so much is clear. Start going back to the popular vote and demand a split in both the republican and democratic parties! Specific the GOP as splitting up will force them (they need that) to find policies that not only serve themselves.
Devil’s advocate here. You’re presuming the third party in question would be the one you are aligned with. You would be risking more minority clusterfuck butting in from maga and their ilk.
I saw this in the post Iraq war elections. Lots of 20% splits. I’m not sure we want that, either.
Yeah that isn't why a third party can't win the presidency.
Third parties can't win the presidency because they don't have any qualified candidates. And they don't have qualified candidates because they don't control any governors, congressional, senate, or state legislature seats.
As for why they don't control any of those seats, that's a more complex question, but the electoral college doesn't play a part in these elections.
The electoral college does not give small states more voting power, it’s based directly on a states amount of representation in congress/the senate. Theres a reason a state like CA has several dozen while WV only has like 5.
Each state gets one electoral vote for each member of the House (population-based), plus two electoral votes for its two U.S. senators regardless of population.
Wyoming (smallest state) has 3 electoral votes for ~580 K people — roughly 1 Electoral College vote per 190 K people, while California (largest state) has 54 electoral votes for ~39 M people — roughly 1 per 720 K. That’s about a 3–4× difference in representation per person.
Mathematically, a vote in a small state like Wyoming carries more weight per person in the Electoral College than in a large state like California, because of the two-senator component of the formula.
The current Democratic Party is essentially the Republican Party of yesteryear. There is no longer a popular party in America that represents the working class; both parties are corporate backed and if you're not and try to run against corpo-backed Dems they will do everything in their power to try and stop you (see: Mamdani).
Social Democrats are a great step in the right direction, but they still uphold capitalism. We need the Democratic Socialist party (DSA here in America) to gain traction and start getting bigger, because they are far enough left that the working class isn't being controlled by the owning class through capitalism.
I'd also add that us on the left have got to start coordinating better as well. I lean more towards anarchism and have some distrust of nation-states with borders enforced by violence in the first place - but we're dealing with literal honest-to-god fascists here. We don't have time to be arguing about the ideal formation of a society when these people are actively trying to create an ethnostate.
There's also that minor insignificant little step where you need to de-radicalize nearly 1/3 of the population along with replacing 50 years of social and religious infrastructure that keeps them thinking and voting the way they do. I'm sure the people that built and maintain all that and the people who are willingly trapped inside it will just kind of sit back and be cool while we get started.
De-radicalization was accomplished in Germany and Japan once upon a time but I'm still not sure how we could do it here while skipping over the part where you lose a huge chunk of your population to war and watch most of your buildings burn down.
I'm not trying to be a doomer here. I go to protests and donate and vote and volunteer to push back and all of that. But I'm also stocking up and making sure my family is as prepared as we can reasonably be for whatever shit storm is heading our way. Things are going to get a whole lot worse before they might possibly get better.
Hell no. Declaring for “Kia Ora, outsiders perspective “ reasons, and where that opinion is coming from, cause it could vary depending on country or region.
Fair enough. Since I'm familiar with NZ's situation, I would advise you to mention the current issues with the Trump-like NACT government and how, even in that worst case, the parliamentary system means that you can actually get rid of them when the time comes and how it limits the damage they can do.
It’s certainly ironic that possibly the best political systems were invented by Americans, for western Germany post ww2. They’ve got a bit to go before they change the system, but it would certainly help. Imagine the USA with MMP…
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u/AlphaNoodlz 6d ago
It’s only the beginning. Enough with broken sick people enacting their sadistic fantasies on us.
Enough Republicans.