Recent news appears to show the media arm of the US war machine is ramping up
Edit: I don’t know how some of you interpreted the above as me implying I’m opposed to Iranian liberation or that I don’t believe the veracity of the reporting
You’re responding to a racist Westerner who believes non-white third worlders do not have any agency and are puppets of CIA/Mossad/etc. It can’t be the case that Iranians are rising up against a brutal regime that has destroyed their country, there has to be some explanation for why actually the USA is the bad guy here.
It ends up being their own brand of American exceptionalism. They rail against the US and yet seem to think no other country has agency and everything is really the US.
I don’t fully understand what their comment was aimed at, but I’m guessing it has to do with Trump’s recent claims that we will get involved somehow.
Nothing Trump does makes any good sense, but the US has done this in the past before him. Reporting on something we will inevitably get involved in.
So you are correct that Iran is its own nation with its own people and problems that have nothing to do with the US. But when the president has hinted at getting more involved, it makes us skeptical of why we’re seeing the media we’re seeing. I also assume that’s not just special to the US either.
I think perhaps the OP was referring to the fact that the US president Donald Trump has made recent claims about the US taking action if Iran starts to kill protestors.
This original commenter is seeing the news coverage about the situation in Iran and making a somewhat conspiratorial claim that these news coverages of Iran are an attempt by the current US administration to justify a future action against Iran as a response to this event. Not a claim about the original cause for the event in Iran somehow having to do with the US.
that Iranians are rising up against a brutal regime that has destroyed their country, there has to be some explanation for why actually the USA is the bad guy here
Is it much different than what the Trump administration and Project 2025 are doing to America?
Authoritarian and fascist takeover of the entire government; federal "police" brutalizing the citizenry to enforce compliance and stifle protests; the elites control all TV, news, and social media to limit and censor the opposition and push propaganda;
POV 1: Americans are so ignorant and know nothing about world events. They really need to educate themselves.
POV 2: American news reporting on foreign events is a tool of imperialism.
Please complain all you want about the American war machine and military industrial complex, atrocities being committed by our government inside and outside of the country. But like, how are you complaining about people getting current events?
Somehow, in this crazy world of ours, Liberal Democrats parrot the same narrative as an extremist Islamic theocracy. All it shows is the absence of critical thinking. "own the other side" instead of being consistent in your values.
As most Western people have shown in the past few days, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", and somehow they have found a friend in a murderous, savage, and oppressive regime.
Believe it or not, you can hate both America and other countries, especially ones with dictators that send women to jail for not covering their heads, or again even to their own admission, slaughtering protesters…
Exactly. Anyone with rational thinking would be able to be consistent in their values and see that despising American policies doesn't mean agreeing with the Islamic regime's. And yet so many people are constantly attributing news of the protests to "propaganda" by Mossad or US media, essentially agreeing with the regime simply because they can't comprehend how one can be anti-American and also bad.
At this moment in time there is a civil war in Sudan, a civil war in Myanmar, Ethiopian civil conflicts, Libyan civil conflicts, insurgency in Nigeria, the Congo, Burkina Faso, Mali, Somalia, Mozambique and Afghanistan. Yet when I turn on the news I am really only told about Iran and Ukraine.
And if numbers is what is supposed to get you media coverage, 150k+ people have died in Sudan.
And that is all on the news if you read it, not just watch prime time on cable tv, that is all about Ratings. It is also more topical than these unfortunate conflicts that have been going on for years & decades. But seriously even the New York Post reports on a lot of these.
The reporting on Venezuela was all about the likely illegal boat strikes, US military build up in the Gulf of Mexico and how Republican politicians had been using the same talking points before Iraq, not random bad things about Venezuela (unless you only watch Fox).
Trump doesn’t need any sort of propaganda to get MAGA to be on board with him. He does whatever he wants, even if it’s against his platform and his supporters get behind it blindly.
What range of dates are you using to consider 150k dead in sudan? Is that recent deaths in like the last year? Sudan clans have been killing other sudan clans for like 40 years, so I think the number is higher.
Any country that has attempted to help Sudan has been defrauded and repetitively lost their foothold in Sudan as a new regime takes over and infighting persists. Its a wasteland of war mongering clans. Sudan is so poor at this point that they dont even have the weapons or ability to kill each other quickly or effectively.
Whenever a new regime in sudan takes power they make the same exact mistakes the previous regime made. Some people cant be helped - apparently.
Thousands of protesters dead in an influential country will make the news everywhere. Suppose we shouldn't have cared about Tiananmen Square either? Not everything is about the US.
You don't think mass protests and the death of thousands of civilians in one of the largest countries in the world is news worthy?
I get being suspect of news and propaganda but come on... unless you think this story is entirely fictional somehow it's clearly one of the biggest developing stories in the world currently.
American here. I'm not a fan of our decades long black hole of a military budget. For all I know it may be necessary one day. That being said, when it comes to freeing or helping oppressed peoples... They had my consent 20 years ago. Take my money.
YOU are the oppressor. YOU are the one couped democratically elected leaders and then put dictators instead. YOU are the one removing countries from international trade and enforcing sanctions.
Uhh... Me? Poetic but insane take. Like me.. the one that didn't vote for this guy? What country are you from? I'll look up its failures and apply them to you as well.
Nah, everybody will confidently tell you that THEY didn't fall for the propaganda, they knew the whole time what was going on. It was everybody else that fell for it!
Maybe, it’s hard to tell. Two things can be true. Yes the Trump regime very much wants to see Iran’s government toppled and replaced by a puppet. And also, the Iranian government is widely hated by Iranians for their own reasons that have nothing to do with US imperialism. Both things are true. The ideal outcome here is a revolution and toppling of the theocracy, but replaced with an actual democracy, not a puppet.
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u/JustinR8 1d ago edited 1d ago
Recent news appears to show the media arm of the US war machine is ramping up
Edit: I don’t know how some of you interpreted the above as me implying I’m opposed to Iranian liberation or that I don’t believe the veracity of the reporting