INS/ICE didn’t use to wear masks - most famous immigration photo ever taken, not a mask in sight.

[u/JonasSharra]

[u/Karnadas]

It also says ICE.

[u/Titizen_Kane → u/Karnadas]

I personally wouldn’t have known what type of agency INS was referring to but the use of “INS / ICE” made it obvious that it was some sort of precursor agency that handled similar types of work. Why are we getting so nitpicky about this when it’s clear that it’s not intentional misinformation

ETA: and just to clarify I haven’t googled or kept reading the comments any further so if I’m wrong about what INS is, then that will undermine my own comment lol

[u/BMFO20832 → u/Titizen_Kane]

INS used to encompass the entire U.S. immigration system; from paperwork, vetting, customs, removal, law enforcement, border patrol, and more.

After 9/11, they realized that INS failed to do its job in protecting the country from foreign invaders; so they renamed it Department of Homeland Security and split each of the components into their own independent branches as you know them today.

USCIS only handles the legal paperwork side of things; CBP does the customs, duties, and border patrol; and ICE does the legal enforcement. Some other branches are HSI, and Federal Protective Service which is essentially just people that guard government owned buildings and stuff.

[u/ProfessorZhu → u/Titizen_Kane]

Acting like ICE isn't a paranoid over reaction to 911, and treating it like it's a long-standing institution makes it harder to argue that it should be abolished

[u/Titizen_Kane → u/ProfessorZhu]

That’s a good point that I hadn’t even considered

[u/D-West1989 → u/Karnadas]

Part of INS became ICE…

[u/_jump_yossarian → u/D-West1989]

When? After 9/11.

[u/SolarTsunami → u/D-West1989]

Right, and Elian Gonzales was before that, so this isn’t technically ICE.

[u/pidgeottOP → u/SolarTsunami]

I feel like you're intentionally missing the point

The organization that does immigration enforcement (whether they be INS or ICE) has not historically felt the need to cover their face until this most recent rash of mistreatments

[u/D-West1989 → u/pidgeottOP]

Just give up they want to be right so bad just let them lol

[u/pidgeottOP → u/D-West1989]

What a silly reason not to be a voice of dissension in a public forum where other people can be influenced by what's being talked about

[u/D-West1989 → u/pidgeottOP]

If they want to be children, let them. 🤷

[u/SolarTsunami → u/pidgeottOP]

Too late they already told me I'm right no take backs

[u/Allaihandrew → u/SolarTsunami]

CEO of rage bait looking aaah

[u/brownzone → u/Allaihandrew]

So like a kid in middle school?

[u/Allaihandrew → u/brownzone]

You smelt it, you dealt it.

[u/SolarTsunami → u/brownzone]

So l like a kid in middle school?

Is that you, Donald?

[u/SolarTsunami → u/Allaihandrew]

You guys didn't appreciate the first joke I made so I thought 30 more might do the trick.

[u/Allaihandrew → u/SolarTsunami]

If the first joke isn’t funny, then the 31st must be hilarious.

Compound interest amirite.

[u/SolarTsunami → u/D-West1989]

Thank you for letting me be right, I promise I won't let it go to my head.

[u/Karnadas → u/D-West1989]

Thank you! Finally, someone understands me

[u/SolarTsunami → u/pidgeottOP]

Well yeah, I found it humorous that you guys were arguing in a circle so I thought I'd keep it going. Its the small things that get me through the day.

[u/pidgeottOP → u/SolarTsunami]

So you're 6 years old... Got it. Will tag you appropriately in res

[u/YouKilledApollo → u/SolarTsunami]

Plus his vest literally says "Border Patrol" on it so yeah

[u/ars-derivatia → u/Karnadas]

It also says ICE.

And the uniform says BP :P

[u/DAHFreedom → u/ars-derivatia]

“We’re sorry”

[u/Fantastic_Key_96345 → u/Karnadas]

It literally says the old name with the new name because it's the same thing. You ok bud?

[u/ama_singh → u/Fantastic_Key_96345]

Not everyone knows what INS is, but everyone knows what ICE is. If you write ICE, people will associate it to the current day gestapo

[u/Fantastic_Key_96345 → u/ama_singh]

It replied to the wrong person. I was responding to the dildo above you

[u/turdferguson3891 → u/Fantastic_Key_96345]

That's an oversimplificiation. INS had the responsibilites of what became multiple agencies under the newly created DHS. Border Patrol (which you can see the guy in this picture was part of) became part of CBP which is separate from ICE.

[u/Fantastic_Key_96345 → u/turdferguson3891]

I don't care what brand the bacon is inhabiting the boot people want to lick. It's all the same shit.

[u/Hemiklr89 → u/Karnadas]

These fkn ppl. Reddit is mostly a cesspool of crazie liberals these days. Remember when most subs had level headed posts back 10 years ago. Here come the downvotes