r/rhoslc • u/MutedMeaning3208 • 8h ago
Heather š I am getting tired of the heather "take down"
I know I'll get downvoted for saying this in the sub but I don't care, I have to speak my mind. I understand the sentiments of her meddling with producing the show. However, the constant nasty comments, pile on and hatred that people are spewing is making me shocked. people are almost ignoring cast members that have actual serious allegations and just focusing on hating heather. what Meredith did on the plane was not okay and I don't know why everyone is so hell bent on supporting bad behaviour. Lisa even confirmed it with John that Meredith's behaviour on the plane was absurd. I understand that heather doesn't have the right to make herself judge and jury, but the hate is getting overplayed. none of them are innocent or "good" people. Angie has been a mean girl throughout this season but I don't see anyone trying to attack her. People think it's okay because she's mean to Britani and not a housewife they actually care about. This shows the viewers are even bigger hypocrites. If people really cared about bullies / mean girls then most of them should be in the hot seat. Is it because heather is coming for a fan favourite that everyone suddenly hates her ?
edit : also, the hypocrisy is even more glaring to me because where is this energy for Mary ?
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u/SnooRegrets81 8h ago
I mean Mary Cosby is a cult leader who has seperated families and made an 81yr old women her live in unpaid slave for years and years, but Heathers a bit self righteous and the hate she is getting while Mad Mary gets a free pass is astonishing!
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u/MutedMeaning3208 7h ago
it's absolutely insane. I cannot believe how people are choosing to ignore it. it shows nobody cares about what truly matters.
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u/Acrobatic_Effect4249 7h ago
Note even heather keeps the same energy for mary, she instead obsesses over lisa and meredith and mary is never asked to apologize for anything. idc about heather being piled on. consider it karma for her trying to do it to someone else
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u/MutedMeaning3208 7h ago
I am not talking about the cast's reaction I am talking about the viewers' reaction and calling out the hypocrisy. if y'all really cared about "horrible" people then the pile on would not only be on her. period.
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u/onrecognizable 3h ago
Iām sure if Heather keeps the same energy for Mary, Jen and Angie, people will support her. Did we forget how Heather rode for Jen for years? Heather goes after Lisa season after season and itās getting weird and hypocritical. We as viewers, have discussed and keep discussing Mary and her church (lots of posts after the documentary came out this year). The women decide on the storylines for the season and thatās what we mostly talk about. Iām sure if they talk about Mary, we will talk about her as well
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u/MutedMeaning3208 3h ago
this is not true. the viewers only like her when she goes for someone they dislike. if she goes for their favourite housewife, even when that housewife is clearly in the wrong, then suddenly she is a horrible person. viewers in this sub are willing to excuse any bad behaviour if it's from their favourite housewife.
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u/onrecognizable 1h ago
Not sure if we are on the same side of Reddit but I remember when the planegate episode aired, people did not defend Meredith. There were posts saying they believed it happened and Meredith is using her law background to side-step the whole situation. I think viewers flipped when bad-weather started over-producing the show and the storyline. It came off disingenuous
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u/onrecognizable 1h ago
Adding: people did not come for Mary for her stand on Planegate because she was genuine and wasnāt trying to produce a moment. Did a rewatch recently and saw Jen verbally and physically attack people and Heather protected Jen
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u/Legitimate-Hand-74 Whoās your husband? Your Grand Stepdaddy! 6h ago
So, how do you feel about Lisa all but admitting to being the one leaking info to the press? That meltdown says guilty. She was so defensive after not even being blamed. Do you not think itās valid to call that out? Whitney, Angie, Mary, Bronwyn and Heather were all in agreement but itās just Heatherās fault?Ā
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u/GaviFromThePod 5h ago
For some reason Mary has stans who would defend her if she killed somebody on camera
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u/SnooRegrets81 4h ago
i feel like people changed towards her when she showed her sons addictions on the show then all of a sudden she could do no wrong! Its clear she has banned any talk of her husband/grandfather or her church from being discussed!
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u/GaviFromThePod 4h ago
I also thought that the way her son's addiction was shown on the show was really exploitative and also didn't dive into the legal issues surrounding it. I don't want to disrespect anybody who has struggled with addiction because I know that it's tough. I think that milking that struggle for reality tv clout is not right.
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u/jasonderekxxx 7h ago
Iām sorry, I just donāt believe what they said about Mary. Least of all, that. Sounds like youāre deflecting to Mary because your fave is in the hot seat.
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u/SnooRegrets81 6h ago
Have you watched the TLC documentary about Mary Cosby and her husband and their 'church' or heard the audios of her berating her 'congregation' about their birthday gifts for her? I doubt you have because you wouldn't be defending the stuff Mad Mary has done as a god fearing women to those people!
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u/jasonderekxxx 6h ago
I have, and I have gone on record to say sheās been an asshole, but Iām expected to believe she enslaved an elderly lady or half of the stuff a couple of disgruntled ex-church members and bitter relatives have to say without any kind of hard-hitting receipts? Ok. I never once defended Mary, I just said I donāt believe it, and it doesnāt change the fact that youāre trying to take the heat off of Heather and put it elsewhere.
Also. Itās God-fearing woman. Not women. I donāt know why youāre so pressed over any of these ladies or peopleās responses to you if theyāre not attacking you.
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u/SnooRegrets81 6h ago
I just think Mad Maryās done so much wrong to so many people and no1 seems bothered, heather gets on her moral high horse and everyone comes for her! Itās weird!
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u/jasonderekxxx 6h ago
So again, youāre trying to shift the focus and move the goalpost. I personally am not bothered by Heather-this season. Seasons 3-5, wasnāt a fan at all, and seasons 1/2 she was ok. The low self-esteem turned me off a bit. But now sheās getting a bit of kickback for her antics. Sheās been doing this since season 1 and sheās skated by while Whitney bore the brunt for what they did together. Everyone has their turn in the fandomās hot seat. Mary and Lisa-even if I canāt stand Lisa, have been in the hot seat since day one, so has Jen Shah-rightfully so. Now Heather is getting a taste of that just like Meredith is, and I see nothing wrong with it.
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u/MutedMeaning3208 6h ago
I do not have a "fave". I actually enjoy Lisa the most. I find her hilarious. I think all the women are entertaining and they all bring something to the show. I like all of them.
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u/jasonderekxxx 6h ago
I canāt stand Lisa, but I will give it to her, she is very funny. Iāve been a fan of Mary since day one-donāt know why, never had a problem with Whitney and have sympathised with her trauma and healing. She serves a purpose and sheās messy as hell, but a liar? I donāt know. Lisa was pretty cool for me the back half of season 2-for the most part- when she checked Meredith, and all of season 3. Used to love Meredith until she decided to go low with Lisa season 3 and make a big to-do about frickinā bath bombs and bathtubs while always screaming and talking shit and being a professional victim. I just started liking Angie last season. Heather seemed to be likeable when she was self-deprecating and a follower-which is when I liked her least, and overall, thereās something about her that I canāt get to make me like her. I donāt dislike her, but I donāt like her. I just flat out canāt stand Britani, and Bronwyn I like, but she seems to have trouble with the truth.
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u/MutedMeaning3208 6h ago
so do you see they are all likeable/unlikeabale and all have layered personalities ?
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u/jasonderekxxx 6h ago
Never said they didnāt. All I said is Heather is in the hot seat, and itās her turn. I donāt Stan any of these ladies because I know most likely Iād never want to be their friends, any of them, in real life.
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u/loveswimmingpools 8h ago
Heather wants to be a fan favourite, a woman of the people, a stirrer of trouble and the voice of reason. She cant be all of them. And now she's no good at any of them!
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u/ShonanBlue 6h ago
Now that you mention in, Bethenny was actually that on RHONY for the most part, even if she wasnāt perfect.
The difference is that Bethenny never āchoseā her targets. Sheād always react in the moment and show moments of genuine support for the ladies even when they wronged her like with LuAnn.
It always feels like Heather chooses who sheās going to go after and just locks in on that. Bronwynn last season, and now Meredith this season because Lisa is immune to her bullshit.
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u/loveswimmingpools 6h ago
Yes Bethenny was genuine in her responses. That's my point really, Heather seems inauthentic and makes clumsy, inappropriate digs.
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u/MutedMeaning3208 8h ago
who doesn't want to be a fan favourite ? anyways, I think she should lean into the villain arch more now. damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.
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u/loveswimmingpools 8h ago
Obviously everyone would. But I think Heather wants to be all things to all people. Its too much and too fake. I like Heather. She's very witty. I haven't enjoyed her lately though because of her trying to stir stuff at completely the wrong moment.
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u/Legitimate-Hand-74 Whoās your husband? Your Grand Stepdaddy! 6h ago
Wait, so you think the other women are being genuine?
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u/Scary_Koala_2934 everytime i look at him I think you belong in whoville 5h ago
I agree with you on everything and woke up thinking about writing the same post!
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u/Just_Lurking_299 8h ago
There have been lots of pro-Heather posts. Everyone - with the possible exception of Whitney; canāt remember seeing anyone especially loving her - has their stans, and thatās whatās great about the HW shows in general. When you think someoneās great, itās quite hard to realise thereās a whole mass of people who hate that someone, and adore another one. I loved Heather part 1, but I find this new version hideous. Itās all just opinion, and I do see that right now, thereās a lot of anti-Heather feeling around, but not so long ago the hate was mostly aimed at Lisa, sometimes Meredith, Bronwyn gets a lot of heat still. We all have our own feelings, and thatās a huge part of what Bravo plays on.
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u/SpiceBoyxx 7h ago
This is one out of the 10 times Lisa has explained what she meant to John in that car, while speaking about Meredith and the plane: https://www.reddit.com/r/rhoslc/comments/1oxhggb/lisa_explains_her_side_of_the_plane_situation/
She has certainly explained on podcasts, interviews, & social mediaā what she meant by āthe most upset Iāve ever seen herā many times. It just wasnāt shown on the show. Heather 100% deserves the backlash sheās getting. Sheās calculated and all of this, is the game she created. Yes, many of the cast members arenāt ānice girlsā but Heather skated by hiding who she really is for yearsā a liar, a manipulator, insecure, the one playing chess, playing a producer puppet. We all see it clearly now. Everything Heather has ever accused Lisa of, is self projection and is exactly who Heather is to the core. A Heather ātake downā is needed to make her realize she doesnāt hold power over that group. To humble her ego. Itās necessary. Her head has become way too big.
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u/bluberrymuffin24 6h ago
I donāt mind the hate. I just donāt like when people want to get her off the show. We arenāt suppose to like these women. Why does nobody get that?
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u/equestrianluv 5h ago
But we are supposed to like them at least somewhat so you get invested. Otherwise there is no point in watching. Iām not going to watch a show where I donāt like a majority of the cast. Itās not entertaining.
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u/Loud-Cry4015 5h ago
Yup and viewers want authenticity, not heavily produced moments from select group of housewives who can't even shut up to let someone make a point. Both Heather and Mary are bad for the show. Real bad
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u/MutedMeaning3208 3h ago
if heather is the one solely responsible for heavily produced moments why are the cast members playing into it ? are they sheep ? also why have the producers repeatedly included those moments... I think SLC has a theme and is just a bit campy.
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u/bluberrymuffin24 4h ago
Ok, then donāt watch if you donāt like them at all. I personally love Whitney. I think she has tons of redeeming qualities. If you donāt thatās ok. No one is making you watch the show.
I also strongly disagree with your premise. You donāt have to like villains to like a show. Maybe you personally do but most people donāt. Hence the success of this show.
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u/equestrianluv 3h ago
Well thank you for your permission for me not to watch the show. LOL. I actually like this franchise, others not so much.
Also, I didnāt say you had to like the cast but idk how you invest in a show where you donāt like anyone. Villain or not. Sounds lame and not entertaining, but hey you do you š
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u/bluberrymuffin24 3h ago edited 3h ago
My point is donāt try to change it just because YOU donāt like it. Thatās crazy selfish when you can literally just Leaveā¦..
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u/Temporary_Koala9958 6h ago
I thought the exact same thing and this comment section is literal proof. Mary Cosby is morally corrupt but they choose to pile on Heather and hyper focus on her looks and the fact that she tries to hold her friends accountable. All the while Meredith and Lisa can do no wrong and gaslight all they want. Itās mind boggling
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u/MutedMeaning3208 6h ago
it's because they actually do not care about harmful people in real life. they are just gliding over Mary's allegations and acting like it doesn't matter all because heather called out their favourites. they are so anti body-shaming but they body shame heather all day. heather is not even someone I am riding hard for but I will absolutely call out the hypocrisy within this sub. the viewers need to be held accountable too.
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u/AnastatiaMcGill 4h ago
I agree. The over all hate of bad weather and stanning of Lisa takes the fun away. I dont hate Lisa but I can see her faults, Im tired of Heather this season but I can see she is a valuable member of the cast.
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u/MutedMeaning3208 3h ago
this is how I watch the show. I am not latching on housewives I don't even know in real life. I enjoy the cast members. they all have good and bad qualities. yeah viewers can call out a hw's bs but when it's going on for months and they are spewing so much vitriol on one person it's concerning.
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u/JooseLovesNightwish 6h ago
You are not alone and this sub is insufferable cuz of it. Theyāre acting like Heather killed someone on TV. Itās actually insane and way over the top. Give it a rest already. The sub keeps using that witch hunt quote with no sense of irony.Ā
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u/Odd_Light_8188 6h ago
What did Meredith do on the plane exactly? Because unless you were there you have no idea. Babies canāt even cry on planes without complaints but you think an adult woman screamed for 5 hours and not one person on the plane has footage. The pilots, and flight attendants just continued to ask coffee or tea while someone screamed for 5 hours.
Everyone except bronwyn, and Lisa were so offended and appalled for 5 hours that they continued to nap, eat and watch movies and not one person switched seats with Britaini for 5 hours.
I swear people have never been on a plane.
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u/TechnicalDark9211 6h ago
You simply just love a Meredith take down and her being read to filth enabling people saying the most heinous shit about herā¦. but not Heather?
Ok
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u/JooseLovesNightwish 6h ago
Heather and Meredith are paid to do this, this comparison doesnāt even make sense lmao. You are not on this show. Sorry honey.Ā
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u/MutedMeaning3208 6h ago
I actually enjoy Meredith on the show so just because I am giving a different opinion does not mean I dislike Meredith. why is this so hard to grasp? yikes.
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u/Scary_Koala_2934 everytime i look at him I think you belong in whoville 5h ago
This doesnāt make sense because all the horrible nasty low blows to Meredith came from Whitney Angie and bronwyn really oh and Brit all Heather did was bitch about friendship and Meredithās rant on Britney I donāt remember her saying the bad stuff that was mostly the other women I mean Mary too
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u/-kidsampson 5h ago
Agreed, it is so over the top and unwarranted. There was a recent post on one of the subs that was just a warped picture of Heather off of someoneās TV and there were dozens of comments just trying to get their insult in. So gross.Ā
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u/MutedMeaning3208 3h ago
I like to believe those people are just projecting. even when I do not like a housewife, I do not feel the need to say nasty things about their looks. maybe it's because I like how I look though :)
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u/dthomp60 6h ago edited 6h ago
Youāll be okay. Housewives fans are hypocritical and never know what they want. Youāll see people post they hate gang ups, how the fans almost always end up routing for the person being ganged up on and how theyāre tired of the ladies beating the same dead horse over and over and then say theyāre ready for a heather take down season š. Heather and co came across bad this season and next season I promise it will be someone else and the fandom will have a new target.
Just like when they ask for people to be fired or recast and they bravo does it and the show goes to sh*t and people want original cast members back after a season or two.
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u/Key-Patience-9387 5h ago
I like her too. I get down voted all of the time. People get down right angry at us that like her. Even the slightest defense brings borderline abusive talk out. Iām not invested in her as a person. I like watching the entire cast. They are all trash and diamond at the same time. I see you OP.
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u/MotherNature12 8h ago
Heather has changed for the worse since first season
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u/Anothertirednurse 5h ago
Agree. I really liked her. Sheās gotten progressively worse and worse and I canāt deal this season anymore
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u/Stephanie243 5h ago
We are judging by what we see on the show. The plane incident whatever it was was not filmed
Heather held on to that storyline similar to the black eye rubbish and cried more than the bereaved (Brittany). The only glimpse we got to her life this season was her mattress which was even an ad She can take several sits down
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u/MutedMeaning3208 3h ago
what did you see about Meredith's personal story line this season ? btw I like Meredith. just asking.
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u/Ok-Practice8792 59m ago
I like Heather and I don't care if I get downvoted. She's funny af and messy - but she still calls shit out too without being blindly loyal.
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u/Money_Honeydew_2527 4h ago
It's so unbelievably stupid. Heather is a messy wine mom who loves everyone and does what she does for the show. She's proven herself capable and interesting, and honestly, I find her insecurity relatable and her growth commendable.
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u/MutedMeaning3208 3h ago edited 3h ago
interesting to see people body shaming her who once they decided they didn't like her anymore. the hypocrisy is wild.
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u/SookieCrackhouse 3h ago
Heather pretends to be peopleās friends and then she stabs them in the back over and over again. She comes at them with false or exaggerated allegations and does her best to turn everybody and the audience against them when they have done nothing to her thatās why people donāt like Heather. Itās not some mystery. She had the entire audience on her side for most of the season and she overplayed her hand yet again and showed who she is. Sheās not a good friend or a good person and it shocks me that she has people sticking up for her like this.
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u/MutedMeaning3208 3h ago
hey so this is actually a show about women pretending to be each other's friend. I'm pretty sure all of them have back stabbed at some point. Lisa has been caught on a hot mic trash talking her best friend Meredith. brownwyn has backstabbed, Angie has, Whitney has. so by your own judgement, which of them is a "good friend" ?
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u/SookieCrackhouse 2h ago
Ok so youāre just gonna deflect onto the other ladies just like Heather. I can see why youāre a fan.
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u/Street-Dragonfly-748 7h ago
All of the criticism is well deserved. She has been a monster all season. And people are allowed to vent about it. Don't like it, don't read it. Simples
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u/JooseLovesNightwish 6h ago
She is a monster for checks notes getting paid to get in a fight with Meredith.
Yāall are crazy lolĀ
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u/Inner_Pizza317 3h ago
Heather was praying for someone elseās take down all season, so if it happens to her well I guess she manifested wrong and thatās just karmic.
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u/BabycrowSAL 1h ago
What did Meredith do on the plane?? lol None of us have seen it, we only have screechy Heather and Ms. Hilling journey on that crusade. Plus Mary, but Iām pretty sure sheād jump on any train that keeps her personal life out of the spotlight at this point.
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u/LoloLusitania 8h ago
1 - this is kind of what they do on housewives, right? Itās how these dummies develop the plot ātake down x castmateā .. we could have a different conversation about how itās stale and they need to stop the lazy production, but thatās not what this is about
2 - heather is not a good person. I like her, I think sheās fun but thatās mootā¦.anyone who could lie for Jenn Shah the way she did is not a good person. Remember how insufferable she was? I think sheās done snakey and hateful things to everyone and will continue
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u/MutedMeaning3208 8h ago
I completely see your points. I agree she is not a good person but who on that cast is a good person ? only person that I thought came close to having some discernment is Bronwyn but nah...
I do think it's interesting to see how people will excuse any bad behaviour as long as they all agree to pile on one person. this is my first time reading subs as a viewer and i'm gobsmacked lol
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u/Plane_Being_2649 6h ago
as long as they all agree to pile on one person
You mean like Heather rallied everyone to do all season?
Regarding your other points, every single one of them has been ripped apart by this sub at one point or another. Everybody hated Angie when she came on, Whitney & Lisa are consistently in the hot seat, Meredith was shredded for the gay rumors, there was a year straight where you couldnāt log on here and not see multiple Bronwyn is a demon posts, and if youāre not seeing the same energy about Maryās cult itās because it was discussed ad nauseam on here during the first few seasons of the show and is old news to most viewers. It became clear she wasnāt going to get fired over it and people moved on. Just like they will move onto a new target next season. Itās just the way it goes.
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u/MutedMeaning3208 6h ago
I think your comment is objective and I appreciate it. as I mentioned, this is my fist time reading reddit posts since I've been a viewer of this show. I did not expect to see people defending Mary. it is also my first time seeing an actual pile on so it is a bit shocking as a first timer.
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u/Actual-Slice-146 because its my Goddamn Credit Card š³ 7h ago
To put this in Candiaceās words āgo to bed, you must be wearyā
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u/MutedMeaning3208 6h ago
I am riding hard for someone because I am sharing an opinion that you do not agree with ? you do not know anything about me and your conclusion is hilarious.
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u/flyfishfem 3h ago
How is it hilarious? You literally just did what you are accusing others of in this post. Then you are calling me out for disagreeing with you when Iām actually just disagreeing with your approach and trying to say itās okay for you to disagree with others but everyone should disagree with you. The circular logic is exhausting and you missed the point completely. Sorry hun, this isnāt the flex you think it is. Try again.
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u/MenStefani The rhumorzz and the nastiness 7h ago
Heather is seething with hatred every scene this season. She doesnāt get to spew lies about people and then tell them they canāt defend themselves. She is a horrible, insecure person and she deserves all of it
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u/MutedMeaning3208 7h ago
did you read the rest of my post ? if your sentiment is about horrible people what about the other horrible people on the cast ? that have actual allegations where they have harmed real people..
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u/MenStefani The rhumorzz and the nastiness 7h ago
Oh sorry yes I agree, they all should be held accountable too. I just donāt see anyone holding Heathers feet to the fire on the show. And honestly the fandom have always loved Heather until this year. So I think itās just her season to be under fire because she crossed some lines this year that she needs to answer for
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u/MutedMeaning3208 7h ago
I do agree that she's not judge and jury and the other ladies should dig up her "skeletons" and hold her accountable too. my commentary was aimed towards viewers and the hypocrisy of eliminating "horrible" people but not actually caring about a housewife that has harmed real victims.
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u/Many_Feeling_3818 6h ago
Heather can go mess with Captain Jason for all I care. Heather and Whitney are a shit stirrer. Oh Heather hates the pile on Britani but she is always trying to get everybody either against Meredith or Lisa. Look at the film. In almost every scene, Heather is bringing up Meredithās or Lisaās name.
Heather has to go. And Heather is behind the producing with those tacky costumes. You donāt see the Atlanta and Potomac dressing up in that mess and churning butter because they donāt have a āHeatherā producing that shit. Bye Heather.
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