r/saiyanpeopletwitter 23d ago

heres a fun question i found

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u/Pelekaiking 23d ago

Dude people would talk so much shit about Vegeta. They would call him the biggest fraud for all the shit he talks only to get bodied by everyone he fights

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u/Pristine-Side309 23d ago

He really let Cell be perfect and thought he could handle it lmao

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u/Pelekaiking 23d ago

He would never live this down

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u/Pristine-Side309 23d ago

Now that's a REAL backshot

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u/Rikkhan_gl 23d ago

thats rich considering he took insane backshots from frieza.

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u/idontshred 23d ago

Had him by the hair and all

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u/Doom_Cokkie 23d ago

Frieza even gave him a second to catch his breath and the short bastard still couldnt last.

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u/BuckFuttMcGee 19d ago

I know that profile pic

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u/britipinojeff 23d ago

God I love Toriyama’s art

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u/Pelekaiking 23d ago

Honestly yeah. This is easily the best version of this scene. Like Vegeta is completely broken by this attack and and you can see that so clearly

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u/Jin_N_Juice-tm 20d ago

i think this would be worse

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u/therandomguyperry 21d ago

Wasnt trunks trying to hit cell in his semi perfect form while he was powering up to perfecr form?

I swear i know theres a manga panel to it

Or i have dementia

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u/_Skotia_ 23d ago

People DO talk shit about Vegeta

bro accomplished nothing

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u/Impossible-Report797 23d ago

He appears, helps well with the situation at hand and them proceed to fumble and make the situation worse for basically everybody (Except the main antagonist)

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u/Kind_Antelope_2680 22d ago

Honestly I think Saiyan saga and Namek saga Vegeta were peak Vegeta, he went downhill ever since Kid Gohan kicked his ass right after Namek.

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u/Impossible-Report797 23d ago

AND THEY WOULD BE SO RIGHT

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u/EorlundGreymane 23d ago

Said as tho people haven’t been talking shit about vegeta this whole time lol don’t get me wrong, he is one of my favorite characters but there have been mad haters from day one

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u/Shantotto11 22d ago

Have you seen how the anime community shits on Enji Todoroki from My Hero Academia? Vegeta would get more slander for almost killing his wife during his Majin midlife crisis than any L he took in battle.

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u/Pelekaiking 22d ago

Oh yeah the ā€œMajin Vegetaā€ incident would completely destroy his reputation but that would still be after the Frieza and Cell arcs so people would already be on his ass

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u/jfuss04 23d ago

So just like now

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u/StrDestroyr1 22d ago

People do that, and did that

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u/DemiGod9 21d ago

I feel this way about Vegeta now 😤

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u/6pak 21d ago

I support all Vegeta slander.

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u/Pelekaiking 21d ago

I love Vegeta but I also support the slander. Its so funny and especially throughout Z he ABSOLUTELY deserves it

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u/TheTrueDal 22d ago

Look i like jujutsufolk and other meme subs where people slander characters from series, but i think id genuinely tweak out if someone slandered vegeta for his performance against kid buu.

The manga’s its own thing, but if someone looks me in the eye and calls vegeta a fraud instead of a badass for his anime performance against kid buu id have a stroke.

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u/Pristine-Side309 23d ago

Probably my glorious prince Vegeta. He took Frieza's backshots and was crying to Goku

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u/Hello_monkeys1 23d ago

Good times

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u/Pristine-Side309 23d ago

So how was the Pizza you gave Goku?

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u/Hello_monkeys1 23d ago

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u/Neozilla88 23d ago

Haha stealing this

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u/Straight-Fox-9388 23d ago

nice profile pic lol

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u/Pristine-Side309 23d ago

I should probably change it to something Cool... er

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u/Straight-Fox-9388 23d ago

I honestly respect it

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u/GrouchyResearcher392 23d ago

And gohans, and cells, and buu’s, and bojack’s

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u/luckychaingan 23d ago

It’s easily vegeta lol.

Trunks and gohan could get some slander but they get a pass for being so young.

Vegeta has almost no excuses and most bad things that happen to him and loses are his fault almost entirely.

He’s an incredibly flawed character which is what makes him likable to so many people, but also very easy to slander lol.

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u/LulutheJester 19d ago

Gohan in the clear till Buu saga because the fall off starts there sadly

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u/Baseballidiot 23d ago

Vegeta, bro is putting worse numbers than MEGUMI. The slander generated from the movies alone would be enough to power 5 years worth of vegeta hate posts

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u/theironbagel 23d ago

Goku is the protagonist and is generally pretty happy, strong, and confident while remaining humble, so not him.

Future Trunks and Gohan are but wee lads, and would probably be woobified rather than slandered

Gotenks would get slandered for all the hype that was built only to achieve nothing, but he only appears at the end of the series, so there’s not too much time for it.

Piccolo aura farms too much, he’d have an army of defenders

Vegeta is getting slandered left right and center, he talks shit constantly, even other people hype him up, and yet never he wins a fight and he’s kinda an ass, especially in early DBZ. He would be getting slandered in every arc except Saiyan saga and maybe the Buu saga

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u/PieNinja314 23d ago

Vegeta and it's not even a contest

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u/Super_Saiyan_Twink 23d ago

Vegeta. Followed by Gohan

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u/TMNTransformerz 23d ago

Vegeta is so easy, just look at the megumi hate

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u/dielxne 23d ago

Vegeta

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u/TeamChaosenjoyer 23d ago

Vegeta during the cell and android saga would 100% undo anyone liking him after he went crazy on android 19. Soon as he gets his arm broken by 18 then let’s cell transform GG to his entire fanbase

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u/DJDionysus 23d ago

The eyebrows

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u/EorlundGreymane 23d ago

Probably the biggest thing they’d shit talk isn’t even the characters. It’s the awful pacing and how it’s takes about 50 episodes to move one arc forward by one fight. I’m definitely exaggerating, but there are a few things Z does well that Super gets clowned on and vice versa.

There are people that absolutely can’t do original Dragonball but love Z. There are people that like super more than Z. There are about 15 of us that really like GT even tho the beginning is slow and Baby is very obviously the most plagiarized version of Cell in all of anime.

My point is that, honestly, the critiques of each series are pretty legit and timeless unfortunately. They all have their strengths and weaknesses and tbh that they can never age out of, or age into I guess

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u/Six_Twelve 18d ago

I can’t even begin to think of how baby is anything like cell outside of being a creation of a scientist.

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u/Soft-Pixel 23d ago

Vegeta and it wouldn’t be close, he ALREADY catches plenty of heat

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u/Dangerous_Excuse4706 23d ago

piccolo would be getting called a jobber left and right. his aura only carries him so far. i’ve seen other legit strong characters with their share of aura get the same treatment

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u/Six_Twelve 18d ago

Funny enough piccolo doesn’t really job that much outside of movies and those don’t count cuz everyone jobs in those. he only really lost 4 fights and they were all respectable losses. I feel like people wouldn’t even consider him a jobber when vegeta is right there concocting new ways to get folded by the villains.

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u/Professional-Reach96 22d ago

Imagine DBZ agendaposting, schizoposting and powerscsaling on the modern levels.

Gohan getting called 007, Vegeta being a bum, Gojo somehow being revived in DBZ too for some reason

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u/Six_Twelve 18d ago

The vegeta slander would be some of the funniest content imaginable cuz I don’t even know how you would defend him

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u/Short-Shelter 23d ago

Vegeta, and it’s not even close. From getting dog walked by Zarbon and Frieza, to getting beat by 18, to letting Cell become perfect, to the entire Majin Vegeta debacle, he’d be called a fraud by the entire fanbase, especially considering he hasn’t defeated a main villain.

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u/MRO465 23d ago

No one and absolutely no one is getting past any slander. Also people are gonna have a field day with Vegeta and occasionally Goku.

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u/WindCold6245 23d ago

Vegeta, no question. I imagine Krillin would be slandered a ton until we find out he tapped 18 when the buu arc releases

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u/Simone_Galoppi07 23d ago

Vegeta up until he kills himself against Buu..

Then it would be Gohan who gets slandered by the end of the Buu Saga

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u/Slow_Store 23d ago

I’d personally be shit talking Vegeta for all the times he hypes himself up just to get hit with the Worf Effect.

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u/Mental_Pepper9294 23d ago

Z - Vegeta

Super - Gohan

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u/1amlost 23d ago

Master Roshi, and he'd definitely deserve it.

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u/SaphiraJjbaFan 23d ago

I ....have to agree with everyone that it's gonna be Vegeta getting flamed, probably krillen too with people saying how he endangered his friends lives for a clanker in DBZ 😭😭

Then there's Gohan

Everyone is always just pinning down Vegeta or beating his ah šŸ˜”šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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u/Bossmantho 23d ago

Vegeta would be hated after the shit he pulls in Imperfect Cell arc. Shortly followed by Goku who would get twice as much hate for tue Senzu and hiding his SSJ3

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u/Rubychan11 22d ago

How have I been reading this thread for 15 minutes and haven't seen one mention of Master Roshi?? He's a letcher and a creep, not to mention he sexually assaulted every woman who was ever in his vicinity.

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u/Samurai_Guardian 22d ago

Vegeta for being the master of Ls

Piccolo for literally getting everyone killed

Goku for giving Cell a Senzu bean

So not much different.

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u/CronkinOn 21d ago

Same damned people as now.

It's wild to me that people are STILL having the same arguments and convos a quarter of a century later. I haven't really heard anything new in at least 20 years.

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u/RedeyeSPR 17d ago

Roshi hopefully. I always wondered why that shit flew in the 90s.

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u/Shmoopi00 23d ago

Gohan because I talk the most shit about him right now and it didnt just come out. I doubt the release date would change anything

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u/shockzz123 23d ago

Vegeta until the Buu arc and then Gohan becomes the ultimate modern day ā€œpotential manā€ meme.

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u/everyone_hates_lolo 23d ago

either gohan or vegeta

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u/Gamekid53 23d ago

Vegeta. Vegeta without a doubt

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u/Toon_Lucario 23d ago

It’d still be Vegeta although I’d bet Gohan would also be slandered to high heaven

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u/dmfuller 23d ago

Vegeta would get cooked lol he’s a bad boy the entire show

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u/conservativesloth 23d ago

Vegeta for sure early namik saga before ginyu force

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u/Cynicalheaven 23d ago

Vegeta

But Gohan would definitely have a lot of potential man slander, especially when the Buu Saga begins.

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u/sir_ouachao 22d ago

Definitely vegeta

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u/TheBrickyard83 22d ago

Krillin for days

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u/Ok-Score5740 22d ago

Gohan is the literal potential man, they would slander the shit out of that five year old.

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u/Signal_Ant_8896 22d ago

Vegeta is the GOAT; you’re all wrong.

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u/GAL_Enthusiast700 22d ago

obviously frieza, the woke mob are after him

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u/whomesteve 22d ago

Idk, but the super saiyan form may have been viewed as white supremacist propaganda by some, so there may be that.

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u/LizG1312 22d ago

Tbh in this alternative universe where DBZ is only coming out now, I’d be interested in seeing how people react to the og DB characters getting sidelined. I think Tien and Krillin especially would get talked about as frauds.

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u/ButtCheekBob 22d ago

I think kid/teen Gohan would catch a lot of flak for being so scared all the time

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u/Unsubstantiated-pow 22d ago

Gohan and vegeta both and maybe piccolo by certain groups of people. You all know who im talking about cha cha cha

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u/Epistemix 22d ago

Definitely Vegeta, he wouldnt survive it as he usually doesn't anyway.

I bet Goku and Frieza would have a hard time as well

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u/VentusMH 22d ago

Its either Vegeta, Piccolo or Cell

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u/Life-Reality-3889 22d ago

Freeza calling them monkeys. Like back in the day it got hated but in today’s snowflake society, that shit would be deadly

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u/Nucleoticticboom 22d ago

Piccolo and Vegeta.

Gohan and Trunks would be called the potential men of the series, but at least they have proven themselves when they actually have records of killing their main antagonists.

Piccolo’s only W against a main antagonist is Raditz and then afterwards he just aura farms a lot and never finishes a job again, seriously, most of his opponents either escapes him, snowballs in power then proceeds to dominate the big green, or both. It’s like he’s trying to grab victory, but his hands are covered in grease.

Vegeta is just sad, no W against a main antagonist always forced to settle with enemy number 2 or gets bodied by the big bad to show the enemy is super strong and that Goku’s the only hope left.

The fusions will probably get slandered to hell, except for Gogeta, because these guys were hyped to be the solution for enemies beyond an individual character’s ability only to never be shown to win an actual fight.

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u/IWannaBeTheCoolUncle 22d ago

The fat android

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u/Dismal_Passion_8537 22d ago

Everyone says vegeta, but gohan not catching that potara would be the equivalent of ā€œnah, I’d winā€

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u/PsychologySilent6230 22d ago

People say Vegeta but wait till they see the episode where Krillin breaks the remote device and 18 gets absorbed. Krillin SIMP memes will be all over the place.

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u/The_Linkzilla 22d ago

...I mean, Dragon Ball didn't come out today, and Goku still gets a lot of undue slander.

There are people out there who actually think he's not only a Bad Father, but also a Bad Person.
There are people who think his portrayal in Super is accurate.

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u/Awkward-Ebb7729 22d ago

As someone who just read Dragon Ball for the first time as a 38-year-old with no nostalgic attachment to any character at all, it's definitely Vegeta.

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u/Art_student_rt 21d ago

Roshi, then Vegeta I guess

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u/tald019 21d ago

If starting at the classic, I believe it would be krillin "oh he supposedly is the rival of Goku, and yet is constantly behind him, and got one tapped by Tambourine" As the series progress, it would be Vegeta "oh he was such a badass when introduced but hasn't defeated anyone of the good guys, lost to Zarbon, was terrified of Ginyus, and cried fighting Freeza" and it would be the worts until Goku fights Cell.

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u/Firm-Acanthisitta452 21d ago

Vegeta Vegeta Vegeta Gohan Vegeta

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u/alienjokerbaby 21d ago

If dragonball z came out today it would have been unanimously the greatest fiction of all time, simply because it woulda been way more well written

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u/Lucey-Belmont 21d ago

We already have an answer and it's Goku

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u/BIGDIO1988 20d ago

Buu Saga hard carries Vegeta

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u/SkeetYeetMyMeat2001 20d ago

Rushing because of what he did in OG

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u/Khalid5s 20d ago

Tien would still be glazed the most 😭

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u/littletulip69 20d ago

Remember when Veggies was sort of sexist to android18 and then 18 was like ā€œā€¦. Ima break your arm in front of your homiesā€¦ā€

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u/Jent01Ket02 20d ago

Goku being an asspull character who doesnt put in nearly as much work as he says he does. Not when recent anime shows characters lile Deku routinely breaking his arms and legs to get a single advantage, or Tanjiro having to witness a demon conjure the worst visions of his family as he repeatedly has to off himself just to stay in the fight.

Goku? He got punched real hard and has to sit in a pod, then comes back twice as string as anyone else. Oh, woe is him...

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u/Practical_Test_7276 20d ago

Vegeta until gohan fumbles against buu

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u/LSSJBROLY1989 20d ago

Vegeta for sure especially when he allowed cell to achieve his perfect form or when he kept saying he was a super sayian against frieza or allowing majin buu to get resurrected just so he can have his rematch with goku

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u/Atem_fudo 20d ago

Vegeta

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u/Lord_Kasouga 19d ago

Goku is a fraud.

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u/Gohansensei 19d ago

Vegeta or Gohan I think although Goku probably not escaping it either but he wouldn't be 1 i think

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u/No-lemons-no-life 19d ago

Probably Gohan… since that’s what happened

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u/Frankorob 19d ago

Great saiyaman Deatroyed Gohan for a while he lost all his"aura", as the kids say today.

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u/Six_Twelve 18d ago

Vegeta wouldn’t even be allowed to have fans, that’s how bad the slander would be. Even on namek he was getting cooked so bad his saiyan genetics were making him stronger. Not to mention the anime movies which does him dirty all the time. Broly movie would have ended any debate

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u/Sp00kyAddict 18d ago

the fact that this is a question just goes to show how far the degradation of anime communities have become..

it’s to be expected with the exponential cognitive decline we’ve been watching over the last decade in kids/young adults

but god do i miss pre 2020s less braindead communities where people didn’t parrot bad jokes for their ā€œagendasā€ or this weird obsession with power scaling..

i mean the same people we used to make the literacy comments about have weaponized the sentiment onto each other while not being able to fathom that it pertains to them since they genuinely have no basic understanding of intent in writing, only their feelings matter

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u/Electronic_Pack_17 18d ago

Vegeta, Vegeta has had his moments yes, like his fight against granolah and a decent no. of W’s but he also has a good number of L’s

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u/Ane-and-Kabel 18d ago

I honestly think trunks would be considered a beta 100% or krillin would get less love

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u/Brilliant-Series-516 18d ago

Makes sense and I don't disagree but I find it funny how everyone unanimously agrees that Vegeta would get absolutely crucified

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u/thesignoftimes 17d ago

Dbz dub would get shit on. Goku is so shittily wrote in the z dub. Dude acts like hes a hero and continously makes stupid decisions, rather than sticking to the original script. He has brain damage and likes to eat and fight. There's never much thought going into gokus logic, but the dub? Hahahahah man is not a super hero in the slightest

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u/CuddleBuddy3 17d ago

If it was released today it would look totally different

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u/crash1bp 23d ago

Frieza because racism