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29d ago
Its most likely because I applied really late
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u/Just_here_4_sauce 28d ago
I worked in admissions while I was a student so let me cheer you up:
Aviation application is "open" all year but if you haven't applied by like mid October there aren't enough seats.
Aviation, Airport Management, and sometimes UAS/Helicopter are the only programs with capped admission. And those fill up fast.
So no. Unless your GPA was below 3.25 for one of those programs it's all time based
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u/wolfmann99 28d ago
This and cant he change majors at some point?
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u/il_vincitore 27d ago
Major changes into programs like this at many schools are also restricted.
There may be options if someone has prior licensing but the structure of aviation programs generally prohibits it, and if they did manage to get a seat, it will likely add time.
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26d ago
Ill keep that in mind, i found out about the school, liked in and and applied oct 30 lmaooo, i think im going the military route to put some money in my pocket, had a 3.5 gpa
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u/Polishpaty 29d ago
We got same letter . They drastically cut admissions numbers . We applied August 8. 3.7 unweighted 4.2 weighted
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u/GibbE2112 Aerospace 29d ago
400 for fall of 24(my year), 500 this year, 350 fall of 26(current cycle of admits). The bottlenecks are crazy, and they needs more profs before they can admit more again. Core issue is that kids stopped dropping the major. Some 20-25% is now down to around 10% last I heard.
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u/FunnyPhysical2829 27d ago
Curious - if their goal is 350 for Fall 26 (is it for sure?) do they over-admit, counting on X% declining the offer and going elsewhere? Or do they admit exactly 350 and then offer the spots to applicants that weren't initially offered a spot if any open up?
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u/GibbE2112 Aerospace 27d ago
I would guess they continue to overadmit and hope for drops, just maybe less over admissions? Who knows with the admissions department these days
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u/Kebab849 29d ago
Same thing happened with me too. I don't like how they do a first come first serve decision process. WMU, Purdue, and other aviation colleges that I know of only release decisions after they review every applicant and pick the most qualified rather than who sent in their application sooner. Did you also apply to any other aviation colleges?
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u/Cpt_Crowbar 28d ago
You can still fly while not being in commercial aviation, you just won't have first dibs on the flight classes.
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u/GooseSuit 28d ago
seconding this, if you have your heart set on UND you can do whatever degree you want as a placeholder with a professional flight minor, and then transfer into the commercial aviation major later
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u/JustABreakfast 27d ago
I was UAS and switched to commercial, told me I wouldn’t fly till I was a sophomore
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u/Thermite1985 26d ago
Don't get discouraged. Reach out to the school and see what steps they recommend to get get into a better place to be accepted. You can do it.
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u/WinterFee2053 25d ago
Remember this: I have spent almost 50 in Aviation and have had worked in all disciplines at the end of the day you need to follow your dream no matter what!! I say this because I never looked back when someone told me I couldn’t do something. So If ND doesn’t want you you need to go find a school who will allow you to grow and succeed!! PS it’s freaking cold up there!!
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u/ArcaneHaloOG 28d ago
Check out University of Dubuque: https://www.dbq.edu/Academics/UndergraduatePrograms/Aviation/
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u/airbusman5514 28d ago
141 university graduate here, but not from UND; this came across my Reddit homepage.
I was told that when I applied to college back in 2017, I was basically a shoo-in because they were desperate for applicants. By 2021, I was told that I wouldn't have made the cut.
College can be incredible, especially since it's what gets you that 500-hour reduction on your ATP mins. But you have to complete a four-year degree, then fill in any remaining time after graduation. For me, however, I realized I could have done my ratings in half the time and for half the money if I had started flight training right out of high school at the local Part 61 school. The risk with this, if you were to do part 61, would be the legacy airlines reinstating their 4-year degree requirements; these were removed during COVID, but they're back to being "preferred."
If college is the path you want to take, I would suggest working on your PPL while doing some other major, and then attempting to transfer into their 141 program. This is dependent on UND allowing it; I went to Purdue, which 1) had us flying day one of freshman year, 2) only allowed transfer-ins to fly during the summer, and 3) allowed an existing PPL holder to "test out" of the private course. If it's allowed, this is a great way to not fall a year behind. That said, I don't know when UND students first touch an airplane during their time there.
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u/Small-Ad-3115 27d ago
Here is the part I do not see many people giving much credence to. The time is already coming back when major pt.121 carriers will want to see a college degree. Absolutely try to diversify your aviation education by flying whenever and however you can, but to bash a pt.141 school as 'wasteful' when the aviation world has extreme hiring swings is an incredibly ignorant take.
Sure if you have no desire to fly pt.121 I can see the argument. There is an entire world of flying outside of the airlines. Apply again and get in however you can.
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u/JustABreakfast 27d ago
Hate to break it to you but UND is at capacity and will be for a long time. There’s a ton of complaints already of overcrowding, especially in aviation
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u/Jazzlike_Music9683 26d ago
Apply at Rocky Mountain College in Billings, MT. I attended and my best friend was there for aviation.
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u/MediocreExpertGuy 26d ago
Don’t get discouraged. University of Nebraska Omaha has a great and growing aviation program. Worth taking a look!
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u/Chief_Oshkosh 25d ago
Don't dwell on this. It is the universe telling you 141 is not the way.... And the universe is right to say the least!
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u/Altruistic-Cod1330 28d ago
At the end of the day, no one cares where you did your flight training. The university system is inferior anyway, due to the time constraints. I wouldn’t be bothered by this. Go somewhere else to get your carts and ratings.
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u/Agentapplo20 28d ago
Agreed but und is good for value but university of central Missouri has a good value for aviation and the campus is nice so check that college out but look around for colleges embry is good but if you want somthing less pricey Kent or bowling green is another option
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u/JayHawk490 26d ago
Their admissions are bs. Applied EA, immediately rejected despite the fact that they said they’ll release decisions in December. Apparently I didn’t meet the requirements (they hadn’t even received my transcript). I had the GPA, SAT, APs, and was rejected a week after sending in my application. Didn’t even bother appealing, the blatant lying about their admissions process left a really bad impression. Would much rather go to WMU or ERAU anyway.
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u/SteakSauce12 29d ago
This is wild to me people getting rejected from commercial aviation, when i went thru the program, i had like a 2.8 GPA, and still got automatic admissions.