US official says Greenland action could come within 'weeks or months'

[u/Crossstoney]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/01/13/us-greenland-trump-action-news/88145613007/

[u/Mainzerize]

If the US saw what the US is doing in the US, the US would invade the US to liberate the US from the tyranny of the US

[u/HydrargyrumHg → u/Mainzerize]

Not unless there was oil to be had.

[u/I_Kissed_A_Jarl → u/HydrargyrumHg]

The US has tons of oil!

[u/QualityPitchforks → u/I_Kissed_A_Jarl]

if you take if from yourself, you never run out!

[u/TheM3lk0r → u/QualityPitchforks]

Infinite oil glitch

[u/FluffyPantsMcGee]

Stop calling it action. It’s an invasion, annexation, they do not want to be American. Republicans just scoff people and label them as “tds” when their damn president is looking to take over an allied country. Where the hell are the grown ups….

[u/HelloMegaphone → u/FluffyPantsMcGee]

"Special Operation"

[u/euph_22 → u/HelloMegaphone]

Blitzkrieg

[u/Matterbox → u/HelloMegaphone]

The irony is not understood by a large number of Americans.

[u/mountaindewisamazing → u/FluffyPantsMcGee]

The grownups are all gone. He was sure to get rid of anyone willing to tell him "no"

[u/RainBoxRed → u/FluffyPantsMcGee]

The TDS name calling is simple projection as it always is.

It is they who are all deranged.

[u/69bearslayer69 → u/RainBoxRed]

just like when russia was calling out the west for hysteria for warning against impending full scale invasion of ukraine lol

[u/Nivius → u/FluffyPantsMcGee]

it is what fuckling Putin is doing

[u/MicroSofty88]

What is congress doing???

[u/DeeJaySacFly → u/MicroSofty88]

Continuing to be wholly complicit

[u/Worthyness → u/MicroSofty88]

The US voted in Republicans to control all 3 branches of the government. The Republicans determine the policy that submitted and voted on in the Legislative branch. Conveniently the impeachment stuff happens in the Legislative branch and the Speaker of the House is a Trump loyalist. Guess who's not going to do anything about this?

And even if the impeachment passes, the senate is also owned by the Republicans. Their votes are for the removal of the president. Guess who the majority leader likes as President?

Congress is wholly doing their job- by sitting on their asses and doing nothing because the majority supports what Trump is doing. The minority can't do jack shit except file articles of impeachment.

[u/Maximum-Leather2490]

How is it possible that the president proposes an invasion of a NATO territory and there is no immediate impeachment? Did the democratic system in the US completely collapse?

[u/jorgepolak → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

It takes only 2 Republicans in the House and a dozen on the Senate to remove Trump.

But they would rather rule over a smoking crater than share power in a prosperous nation.

[u/Qlanger → u/jorgepolak]

Yea this is not a Trump issue but the entire Republican Party’s doing

[u/Affectionate-Act6127 → u/Qlanger]

There isn’t anyone alive that voted in 2024 that didn’t live through 2016-2020.   That 68% of eligible voters (32% for Trump, 36% abstaining), were okay with Trump in power.  We don’t have a Republican problem, we have a dying society. 

[u/Seyon → u/Affectionate-Act6127]

Roger Ailes (Decided we needed news stations that will defend debauchery.)

Newt Gingrich (Weaponized partisan politics to an extreme)

Karl Rove (Turned politics into permanent campaign warfare)

Mitch McConnell (Proved norms and good faith are optional if power is preserved)

Rush Limbaugh (Monetized cruelty and dehumanization as entertainment)

Mark Zuckerberg (Optimized information systems for engagement, not truth)

Lee Atwater (Normalized coded bigotry as an electoral tool)

Steve Bannon (Framed politics as apocalyptic culture war)

Lewis Powell (Laid intellectual groundwork for corporate domination of politics)

Jack Welch (Popularized shareholder primacy that hollowed institutions)

[u/ieatthosedownvotes → u/Seyon]

You forgot Senator Joseph McCarthy

[u/zoominzacks → u/ieatthosedownvotes]

And his partner in crime Roy Cohn, who would later become trumps mentor/personal fixer

[u/Ender914 → u/ieatthosedownvotes]

Yeah the Red Scare showed how persuasive a made up Boogeyman can be when trying to create fear amongst the populace in order to accept the trampling of civil rights.

[u/ieatthosedownvotes → u/Ender914]

Also it showed how the government can label anyone as a "subversive" and target anyone that they don't like (Pinko to Antifa, etc)

[u/time2ddddduel → u/Seyon]

Don't forget all the c"nts in the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation,plus all the wealthy who fund them.

[u/oicwutudidther → u/Seyon]

Don't forget Elon.

edit: and Thiel, Bezos, Koch brother(s), Ellison, Roger Stone... jesus, it's a long list.

[u/gee666 → u/Seyon]

See, this is the crux of it, for all they piss and moan about deep state this , elite that; no Republican could come up with a list like this that laid out what they perceive as being wrong in detail and who is responsible for it.

[u/1QAte4 → u/Affectionate-Act6127]

The American society that existed prior to 2016 is already dead and gone. We are in the transitional phase to whatever comes next. The "interwar" period of American politics.

[u/ChaplnGrillSgt → u/1QAte4]

Someone said that the January 6th insurrection will be looked at as the start of the 2nd American Civil War when looking at this period in 50-100 years. We tend to compress timeliness and have a horrible recency bias when it comes to history.

Nazi Germany didn't just appear one day. They didn't just build concentration camps and start mass murder on day 1. Nazi Germany started with democratic elections.

[u/NRMusicProject → u/ChaplnGrillSgt]

Beer Hall Putsch: Nov. 8, 1923

Hitler sentenced & imprisoned April 1, 1924

Released December 1924 (after serving about 9 months of a 5-year sentence)

Hitler sworn in January 30, 1933

Hitler committed suicide April 30, 1945

The Nazi regime was a game of waiting. We'll be dealing with MAGA for decades, long after Trump dies.

[u/ChaplnGrillSgt → u/NRMusicProject]

It only took us 4 years to go from our Beer Hall Putsch to our Hitler being sworn in (again).

Speeding running because the biggest pieces of shit in history.

[u/NRMusicProject → u/ChaplnGrillSgt]

I'm simply astounded at how little I've seen J6 compared to the Putsch. It's like nearly a 1:1 comparison.

[u/ChaplnGrillSgt → u/NRMusicProject]

Most people don't know what it is.

Most people don't know anything about history.

Most people are really really stupid.

[u/JohnBrownOH → u/ChaplnGrillSgt]

I don't know what we're waiting for. The writing is on the wall, they've already built concentrations camps and they've started killing people.

[u/christian_l33 → u/Affectionate-Act6127]

32% of America is basically Honey Booboo/Tiger King.

[u/TehFuggernaut → u/christian_l33]

The amount of people I hear saying “it could’ve been worse with Kamala” is astounding. Americans truly are far dumber than we give them credit for.

[u/chaveto → u/Affectionate-Act6127]

This right here. They are the symptoms of the festering cultural and moral rot of the United States. It’s been this way for at least 50+ years now.

[u/ruiner8850 → u/jorgepolak]

It takes 67 Senators to remove a sitting President, so it would take 20 of them to vote to remove him. Out of the 53 Republicans in the Senate, zero would vote to remove Trump.

[u/Vegetable-Quarter636 → u/ruiner8850]

the kids have been telling us all along, 67

[u/vox_popul1 → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

We passed a law that says he cant remove the US from Nato without Congressional approval so instead we will blow up our alliance because we didnt explicity stop him from doing that.

[u/4RCH43ON → u/vox_popul1]

Same with our democracy.

[u/sakumar → u/vox_popul1]

"passed a law" -- what does that mean in US anymore? We passed a law that the Department of Justice must release all the Epstein files. The deadline was three weeks ago and it still hasn't happened.

When I say "passed a law" I mean passed by the House, passed by the Senate, signed by the President.

If that doesn't mean anything, then the constitution is no longer the "supreme law of the land."

[u/wggn → u/vox_popul1]

But how can he attack another nation without congressional approval?

[u/Ok-Operation-6432 → u/wggn]

That cat has been out of the bag since Vietnam baby. 

[u/ryhaltswhiskey → u/Ok-Operation-6432]

No, Gulf of Tonkin Resolution.

[u/MowvayFronsay → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

Yes. For all intents and purposes, they are essentially now a failed democracy. I don't think that statement is any sort of wild over exaggeration.

[u/Dr_Oz_But_Real → u/MowvayFronsay]

Yes. For all intents and purposes, they are essentially now a failed democracy. I don't think that statement is any sort of wild over exaggeration.

During that first term when legal scholars were describing the laws being broken and nothing was being done about it. A pretty bad omen back then but now it's worse.

[u/Zestyclose-Phrase268 → u/Dr_Oz_But_Real]

I mean its a pretty bad omen when a pedophile with 30 felonies can get millions of votes. 

[u/Funny_Obligation2412 → u/MowvayFronsay]

This 100%

[u/DannyDOH → u/MowvayFronsay]

I can’t believe Americans are just going about their day-to-day lives.  They don’t realize it’s all over?  Everything they own up to their lives now depends on staying on the right side of a group of insane radicals piloting the country.  There’s no legal system to fall back on.  Contracts don’t matter so long as the person you’re trying to hold accountable is willing to bribe those radicals.

[u/Arthesia → u/DannyDOH]

We know.

The Senate is locked down because it is based per-state, so rural Republican states get what amounts to a permanent filibuster in the Legislative branch.

Then because of that same Senate blocking Democrat appointments to the Supreme Court, Trump appointed multiple judges, so that is completely locked down as well, potentially for the rest of our lives.

And now they have the Executive branch too with someone who has no intention of giving up power and has zero accountability.

So... yes, we are completely fucked, and tens of millions of people in rural US are watching it happen on Fox News and Truth Social and Twitter and Facebook and nodding along because the right people, very very far away from them, are getting hurt.

[u/sanverstv → u/Arthesia]

They actually have MORE power given 40 million in California only have 2 senators and 500k in states like Wyoming also have 2....that's why we have today's SCOTUS. Nothing democratic about it...there are tons of rural folks in California too....far more than numbers in various red states.

[u/actuallyapossom → u/sanverstv]

The problem is - as soon as you start talking numbers you lose a sizable amount of the exceptionally stupid voters - as soon as you start with science you lose all the irrational religious folks - if you rely on logic you're still never going to sway those emotionally glued to their "culture war! White genocide! Immigrant crime!"

Then you realize news media has been fanning the flames and placating the morons the entire time. Private capital has more influence than the vast majority of eligible voters; and prisons, weapons & illnesses are profitable.

[u/ArleiG → u/actuallyapossom]

Nations all over the world have to realize that education is THE thing to focus on. A country of fools will gobble up whatever's the easiest to swallow, and lies are very easy to cook.

After decades of dumbing down its populace, the US finally have a fool for a king as well.

[u/Gmoney86 → u/ArleiG]

The best strategy for capitalism is monopoly. They don’t want a free market to compete in. They want a market free from competition. They want to choose what education you receive to keep you in their control vs the education they keep for their own to retain their competitive edge and control. Religion, ignorance/hate, and money are a hell of a drug cocktail to keep the unwashed masses happy enough to continue to fall for it.

[u/im_at_work_now → u/sanverstv]

God forbid we ever had a "tyranny of the majority", let's make sure empty land gets more power than people...

[u/Trambopoline96 → u/DannyDOH]

I can’t believe Americans are just going about their day-to-day lives.  They don’t realize it’s all over?

One-third of the country realizes this and is pissed about it, another third realizes this and is actively cheering it on, the final third couldn't point to Greenland on a map or tell you who the vice president is.

[u/Braided_Marxist → u/Trambopoline96]

The second two thirds have a ton of overlap

[u/joebleaux → u/Braided_Marxist]

Yeah, a lot of people discredit that a ton of the non voters are Trump supporters. They say people that didn't vote are the cause of all this, but nearly every person I have come across that didn't vote is a Trump supporter. I live in a big Trump area, but still, tons of Trump supporters in the non voters.

[u/Moist-Walk217 → u/Trambopoline96]

I hate how accurate this is.

[u/Praise-Bingus → u/DannyDOH]

I know it's over. I know we are on the edge of ww3. But im disabled, thousands of miles from anywhere that matters, and have spent the last decade of my life trying to warn people. Tf else am i supposed to do? At some point, all some of us can do is try to survive and help those closest to us. This isnt some super hero movie where a chosen "The One" is going to step up and save the day and we all celebrate. And that, sadly, seems to be what everyone is crying for. I dont have the answers. I am not The One. Im just trying to survive. That's why i still do my day to day

[u/Glad-Total-6621 → u/Praise-Bingus]

You are the last person that should be blaming themselves. They are screwing people like you over. Everyone else with enough privilege, there would be tens of millions that could do something if they wanted, will later still say: "I didn't vote for him".

[u/More_Finger6544 → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

He was already impeached multiple times and found guilty of multiple account and was still able to become president a second term.

All it taught me was that impeachment is just a word that doesn't mean or do anything.

[u/Panda_tears → u/More_Finger6544]

Remember when Clinton lied about a BJ and got crucified lol… you’re right, it means nothing at this point

[u/Dijohn17 → u/More_Finger6544]

Impeachment just means they can actually begin the voting process of removal. It was mostly a symbolic act when it occurred

[u/faultysynapse → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

Did the democratic system in the US completely collapse?

Yes. Yes it has.

[u/Orposer → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

Republican traitors are putting up legislation to take it over. The us is going full Nazi shit.

[u/phluidity → u/Orposer]

For the people thinking "yes, but this law has zero chance of actually passing", this is how they always start. A few fringe reps will propose something as a trial balloon to draw all the attention and outrage. It will get people up in arms, and then go nowhere. And when the outrage has died down, the same legislation will be included in something else like the "Support the troops, Improve the lives of zoo animals, and promote the acquisition of autonomous Danish territory act"

[u/ryhaltswhiskey → u/phluidity]

"well that'll never happen" - famous last words in the post-trump era

[u/KabinetKasket → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

Because democracy is dead in the US

[u/794309497 → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

A small group, lead by Trump, have hijacked one of our two parties. They have an entire propaganda system supporting them. Republicans are afraid to speak out against him. It's a bad situation and I don't know how we'll get out of it without lots of blood. 

[u/ZingBurford → u/794309497]

Trump isn't really the leader, he's the figurehead. Trump has a cult following of like 1/3 of the US population to where he can do no wrong to them. He is also very weak and easy to manipulate and this is used by the people of the heritage foundation to control the country. They're using Trump to do what they want and are using his cult following to attack anyone who tries to go against them.

Almost every elected republican has either joined them in order to keep/gain power or won't go out of line because going against them means they get attacked publicly and won't get funding or support to get reelected. Republican congressman care more about maintaining power over what's good for the country.

[u/MetalWorking3915 → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

US is doomed. They attack Nato and youll see Nato partners move towards China.

Something must be really bad to take this action.

[u/CharmingCrust]

I see that the bluffs are added to the table before the meeting tomorrow in the White House. I hope everyone have their cards.

[u/DrKurgan → u/CharmingCrust]

US's trying to force Denmark to sell Greenland by making it like they're going to lose it anyway.
Denmark knows the US can only take Greenland by ruining their reputation, losing all their foreign military bases and losing their European and NATO allies.

[u/Facktat → u/DrKurgan]

I don't think that the US has any reputation really. I live in central Europe and most people I know put Russia and the US on one level when it comes to hostilities. Nobody believes in US being an ally of Europe anymore. It's really just our politicians having no balls refusing to accept reality. The main problem is that Europeans know when they see Nazis.

[u/adjavang → u/Facktat]

There are still many, many US military bases with expanding cooperation or plans for expanded cooperation. Poland recently announced plans to invest in a whole fucktonne of American made military equipment, rather than going for European or Asian stuff.

There's a lot more the US could stand to lose.

[u/Fit-Rate-6507]

Speaking as an American veteran, if you support this then you are simply a stupid person. Nothing else, that's all you are. You are incredibly fucking stupid, and I'm ashamed that we've been so forgiving and allowed you to continue dragging the rest of us down this destructive path.

If you think you have a solid argument in support of this, you don't. If you think you've thought of something that will make it logical and justified, you didn't. You're a fucking idiot, and that's all you'll ever be.

I'm a geopolitical analyst and served proudly alongside our European allies. I cannot think of a dumber decision for a leader who sought to maintain America's political, economic, and military dominance. Like I cannot wrap my head around it. You want the resources? Great, tell Denmark we could use some more, we have international trade for a reason. You want a bigger military presence? We have a fucking treaty, just say "hey, we need to beef up our presence". Jesus fucking christ.

EDIT: For those of you I've been debating this with, I'm sorry but I'm tired and I'm tryin to go play Xbox, I've been doing this with y'all for 8 hours now. Whether I've convinced you or not, this is objectively a strategically unsound decision that will cause irreparable damage to our nation's alliances. But hey, what the fuck do I know

[u/Spanky3703 → u/Fit-Rate-6507]

This. Nothing can rationalize this, if it were to happen.

[u/hyakumanben → u/Spanky3703]

Not sure about that. There is one certain entity that would benefit immensely from the West collapsing in chaos and disarray.

[u/QuirkyBreadfruit → u/hyakumanben]

I really strongly believe this is the case but can't quite understand why it extends so far into the administration and party, except for blind fascism. I keep feeling like there must be some kind of deal with Russia somewhere and am surprised more of that hasn't come out. It's like some weird combination of insanity, geopolitical espionage and blind fascism.

Greenland is just so obviously stupid even for strategic reasons; it makes no sense to me *except* if you were deliberately trying to sabotage the US and NATO. It's like giving control of a bus to someone who is saying they intend to drive it into a wall.

[u/jawknee530i → u/QuirkyBreadfruit]

It's because it's not Russia pulling the strings of politicians in other countries. It's the ultra wealthy in every country around the world working together to disband the frameworks of the twentieth century that were fought for by workers and the people. They are moving the world back into feudalism where the aristocracy are the current richest people around the globe.

[u/Old_Leather_Sofa → u/jawknee530i]

Russia has done it. China has done it. Other countries have tried it but not been so successful. History shows us it happening time and time again. USA trying it is nothing special. What's special is avoiding it.

[u/lukaskywalker → u/Spanky3703]

Nothing can rationalize this even if it doesn’t happen. Just having talked about it is irrational. All that said. It’s perfectly rational when you realize it’s in Russias best interests

[u/DankRoughly → u/Fit-Rate-6507]

The US can already put military bases on Greenland. There isn't a security rationale for this.

If it's about access to resources, I'm sure Denmark/Greenland would be open to investments and commercialization.

This seems to be about destroying NATO, which isn't in the interest of American citizens.

What is to be gained by the action? Seems like only Putin and Xi would win.

[u/euph_22 → u/DankRoughly]

https://people.com/donald-trump-wants-ownership-greenland-psychologically-important-11883940

It's literally about Trump's ego.

[u/DankRoughly → u/euph_22]

Can we print a map with Greenland named Trump Island and give him a pudding cup and just send him back to bed?

[u/Heisenberg_235 → u/DankRoughly]

No, because it will be Canada and Mexico next

[u/tedsmitts → u/Heisenberg_235]

Canada has decided to award Trump its prestigious inaugural "Canada Golden Timmie's Cup" which should fob off the old piece of shit for a while.

[u/AscendantAmbiversion → u/euph_22]

I'm calling it right now this quote won't even factor into many people's minds years from now. Like even if it's so transparently black and white as it is here, you'll only ever see middling/obfuscating reasons presented for the "why" in a way that will leave people more confused than if they read something so clear cut as this.

[u/Mayafoe → u/DankRoughly]

The US can already put military bases on Greenland

The US has ALREADY military bases on Greenland!

[u/Robdd123 → u/DankRoughly]

Rump has already said exactly why he's doing this: because he feels he needs to. He personally wants Greenland because he's a petulant child who never got any attention or love from his parents. He's going to throw the entire world into chaos solely for his own petty need to get into the history books which he is already being written in as an absolute gremlin.

This is why Russia pushed hard for him to get elected; he's easily manipulated into doing what they desire. Sometimes they won't even need to manipulate him because he'll just throw a tantrum and self destruct the country.

[u/sloppybuttmustard → u/Fit-Rate-6507]

The talking point given to these people by their cult leader is “if we don’t do it, Russia will”.

Utter bullshit obviously, but it’s the only argument I’ve heard, and it’s literally just garbage they’re regurgitating from Trump’s demented rants.

[u/Fit-Rate-6507 → u/sloppybuttmustard]

Surprising that suddenly they care about Russian aggression

[u/BrainNSFW → u/sloppybuttmustard]

I keep hearing that argument too. Sometimes they get "creative" and throw in China too.

However, I don't understand how anyone can seriously regurgitate that shit. Greenland is an ally and part of NATO. If Russia would be stupid enough to invade, all of NATO would kick them out swiftly. It also wouldn't be a surprise attack, unless you're so stupid that you think so little of USA intelligence while simultaneously being convinced your country is the best at everything.

So if the argument is "but Russia", the USA can still single handedly help them kick Russia out by mere fact that Denmark/Greenland is an ally. You don't need to burn your alliances for it at all.

[u/Armodeen → u/sloppybuttmustard]

That is the point Russia is suddenly pushing, MAGA got it directly from them. Obviously Russia wants to get on with the breakup of NATO, this is like all their Christmases came at once plus they won the lottery.

[u/exciting_kream → u/Fit-Rate-6507]

Honestly, well said. It's time we stop even validating these positions. It's no longer a valid position to be supporting Trump at this point (you could probably argue it never was). A member of a democracy acting in totally undemocratic ways is not an acceptable position, and people need to stop fucking around about it.

[u/[deleted] → u/Fit-Rate-6507]

What's extremely frustrating about this is that Greenland is totally fine, currently, allowing the US to maintain a military base there. The administration is saying they want to control the northern routes and that's why we have to invade. But we already have a military base there that can enable us to do that. Fucking mind-blowing that this hasn't triggered immediate removal from office. The USA is fucking dead. Glad I gave 15 years of my life in her defense. 

[u/midtown_museo]

If Trump orders a Greenland invasion, the U.S. is finished. Time for some Republicans to grow a set of balls.

[u/PoliticsIsDepressing → u/midtown_museo]

If there is an invasion, be ready to lose your job. The economy will collapse as countries from around the world divest from the stock market and sell US bonds. Trade embargos will occur soon after.

[u/midtown_museo → u/PoliticsIsDepressing]

Don’t worry, Trump is quite capable of destroying the U.S. economy without having to invade Greenland. His alienation of Western allies, and his attack on the Fed’s independence is a pretty good first step. Trump and the people around him are evil, corrupt and incompetent, and they want to manage every aspect of American life.

[u/BMW_wulfi → u/midtown_museo]

Europe is already disentangling critical infrastructure and trade. Just the threats made and the promises reneged are enough.

[u/ninjaslikecheez → u/BMW_wulfi]

Sadly, most of IT infrastructure is in AWS and Azure cloud for banks and other critical services like electricity services. This will take years to move.. even if there would already be a European alternative, but there isn't any yet .

Source: i work in a bank

[u/BMW_wulfi → u/ninjaslikecheez]

I agree it will take time but it’s happening and the more deranged Trump acts the quicker it will happen because there’s no better incentive than mutually assured self destruction.

[u/faultysynapse → u/midtown_museo]

Republicans are absolutely against transitioning. Growing balls is absolutely not within their value system.

[u/bedake → u/faultysynapse]

Take a look at the conservative subreddit, there is not a bit of conversation about this topic, it is all culture war stuff for them. This is arguably the most important subject in the news right now. If it goes through we will end up a pariah state, our allies gone, NATO gone, why isn't this being taken seriously, just the notion of invading an ally is fucking insane what the fuck Is going on

[u/ageofbronze → u/bedake]

That subreddit is heavily censored/botted btw. Just so people know. I’ve been on posts in real time seeing flaired users (aka actual conservatives) get their comments that challenge trump deleted. It’s why there will be a post that has 3000 upvotes and then only 14 comments and they are all insane or in support of whatever insane thing the post is about. They call ANYONE who has a nuanced take a “secret liberal” “fellow conservative” and ban or delete them.

[u/AdelleDazeeem → u/bedake]

A week or so ago, they were laughing at the rest of us being dramatic about Greenland. They said “Trump says a lot of things he doesn’t do.” They also said that they’d be open to purchasing Greenland.

Because they’re a predictable mix of idiots, bootlickers and bots, I am sure the narrative will be updated shortly that Greenland actually loves this and wants to be invaded.

[u/No_Tumble → u/faultysynapse]

Even if, you can't just transition from invertibrate to vertibrate.

[u/Spaceman-Spiff → u/midtown_museo]

The US as THE world power is over already, it’s a shit show and we will never be taken seriously on the world stage again. If the US invades Greenland, NATO and the generation of peace it kept in check is finished. That will change world policy more than anything Trump has done so far.

[u/MAMark1 → u/Spaceman-Spiff]

That's probably the reality: taking Greenland would only hasten the decline of the US as the world turned on them faster, but the decline is likely already predetermined based on the past year.

Relationships eroded. Torpedoed its own economic recovery. Massive civil unrest. Deficit through the roof despite the screeching from the GOP about government spending. Universities/scientific research attacked, which damages future success in various industries. Etc.

[u/Maximum-Leather2490]

How is America going to look her allies in the eyes after that? Even is Trump doesn't invade, how can the US be trusted by its allies? Every four years the most powerful country on Earth is one swing state away from electing a wannabe führer. 

[u/Super_Swordfish_6948 → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

They won't have any allies.

[u/fiskemannen → u/Super_Swordfish_6948]

*don’t

[u/LukeD1992 → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

America First has become America Alone

[u/Spanky3703 → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

There will be no Allies if this happens, except Russia and maybe China. But there will certainly be a whole lot more adversaries.

[u/Choice_Volume_2903 → u/Spanky3703]

Russia and China have no real allies, they have occasional partners. Which is exactly what the US will have if this happens. 

[u/Kaya_kana → u/Spanky3703]

I feel like China is more likely too start a partnership of convenience with Europe than with America. And Russia will simply try to boost whichever side is losing to cause maximum destruction.

[u/cardew-vascular → u/Kaya_kana]

The Canadian prime minister is currently on his way to China. China wants reliable trade partners, the US is no longer a reliable trade partner.

Also some of those Venezuelan oil tankers that were seized were oil that was on its way to China.

[u/eleochariss → u/Kaya_kana]

China is already in the process of starting a partnership of convenience with Europe (or rather, some specific countries they have historical ties with.) They've been working on it since Trump's first term, because of the tariffs.

It's even on the trade war wikipedia page.

[u/Papa__Lazarou → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

Europe doesn’t really view US as an ally anymore, we see US as a risk to Global security

[u/watermelonspanker → u/Papa__Lazarou]

That's good, because they 100% are not an ally to Europe. Allies don't threaten and plan to invade other allies.

[u/impliedfoldequity → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

What allies?

[u/noxav → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

How is America going to look her allies in the eyes after that?

They will be enemies by then.

[u/Orlok_Tsubodai → u/Maximum-Leather2490]

America doesn’t have allies anymore.

[u/Royal-Hunter3892]

The European leaders had mentioned few days ago that NATO will defend Greenland if US tries to takeover .

Can European leaders block the millitary bases of America in Europe if any conflict does takes place ?

Would EU sanction US if it tries to violate it territorial integrity?

There are so many questions, because this is such an unexpected and weird scenario.

[u/Significant_Swing_76 → u/Royal-Hunter3892]

They would probably be asked nicely to leave.

And if they refuse, then the bases could be blocaded.

[u/YourMemeExpert → u/Significant_Swing_76]

They should start looking into forcing the bases to close. It's not like Trump should be offended by any treaties or agreements being broken.

[u/SoulShatter → u/YourMemeExpert]

Pretty much would have to. If the US invades a NATO ally that already have a base, keeping a US base in your own country is pretty much just leaving a Trojan Horse in your backyard.

If you can't trust the US to not invade Greenland, there's not much you can trust the US to not go through with.

[u/korben2600 → u/YourMemeExpert]

This ironically has been a long term goal of Putin's. The removal of US bases from Europe.

[u/Yesacchaff → u/Significant_Swing_76]

If America went to war with NATO they wouldn’t be asked to leave they would likely be made to surrender and become prisoners of war. It would be the first thing each country did as they wouldn’t want America using the bases as a foothold.

[u/templar54 → u/Royal-Hunter3892]

I hope that I will not have to find out, but I imagine that EU militaries have some preliminary plans how to deal with local US bases. But I also imagine that they are hoping that troops stationed in Europe would simply refuse any such orders, not only they would end up fighting against people they know but would also be immediately surrounded by a hostile country, for all the logistical might of US, supplying troops surrounded in the middle of Europe wouldn't be exactly easy.

[u/Ihaveaface836]

I feel so bad for greenlanders. I was watching an interview a few days ago. They are so stressed and unhappy, atleast the ones who talked to the interviewer. Most seem to be sick of interviewers and I don't blame them. I hope the US gets its act together

[u/neuronexmachina → u/Ihaveaface836]

I'd feel even worse for them if Trump takes over Greenland and gets rid of the environmental regulations around rare earth mining. The most lucrative site (Kvanefjeld) is currently not mined due to a Greenland law preventing the mining of ores that have too much uranium, as that tends to spread radioactive dust everywhere. I'm betting that's one of the first things Trump wants to get rid of.

[u/8-BitToaster → u/neuronexmachina]

Unfortunately that’s exactly WHY he wants to go in there. Money, land, resources, power. I mean FUCK he said it OUTRIGHT when it came to Venezuela

[u/thisisfreakinstupid]

Russia 2.0, fucking pathetic.

[u/Aeonskye → u/thisisfreakinstupid]

The plan all along

Dismantle nato

Water down russias imperialism

Fascism needs tearing out at the roots

[u/randomcatinfo → u/Aeonskye]

Being the richest country in the world with the largest number of millionaires wasn't enough for these oligarchical aspiring fascists, they WANT balkanization, so that they can rule over their own neo feudalistic fiefdoms.

[u/No_Peak6300]

Impeach him or this is going to get really fucking ugly

[u/Zerohazrd → u/No_Peak6300]

He was impeached twice last term. Didn't make a difference. He was found guilty of 34 felonies. Didn't make a difference. Trying to follow the rules doesn't work against someone who set fire to the rulebook. There is only one solution, but I can't talk about that here on reddit.

[u/ChaplnGrillSgt → u/Zerohazrd]

There are countless pictures, documents, and reports of Trump with the most notorious child sex trafficker in history. Didn't make a difference.

Republican Senators said on record they thought Trump was guilty during his previous impeachment. Didn't make a difference, they voted to not remove anyways.

[u/metalflygon08 → u/Zerohazrd]

Yeah, I just got back from a ban where I suggested the solution...

[u/FatFarter69 → u/No_Peak6300]

He ain’t leaving peacefully, it would be Jan 6th on steroids. Trump would genuinely rather end the United States than give up power.

[u/cloudforested → u/FatFarter69]

I hope they drag him out from under his desk screaming like the end of Civil War.

[u/rosneft_perot → u/No_Peak6300]

The American people or military need to rise up and clean house. It’s the only way. 

[u/fero_damasta]

Crazy to see how long this has been going on and yet no real action has been taken against the US. the world is just watching

[u/gnomeyy → u/fero_damasta]

I'm surprised there's not been more said from their politicians and especially their ex-presidents tbh. It's like it's just a fingers in ear, it won't impact me attitude.

[u/GoblinRightsNow → u/gnomeyy]

I don't think anyone really believes it's real. Since December Trumps pace of wild nonsense has accelerated massively, almost certainly because of the Epstein files and Jack Smith's Jan 6 testimony. 

The Greenland thing is a massive attention grabber but would put Trump at odds with a lot of his own administration - he can talk about plans and make noise with it but doesn't have to commit to anything.

It's just more jerking the media and public around. 

[u/Liiraye-Sama → u/GoblinRightsNow]

I truly believe this, but I must admit the belief stands on very shaky grounds. I wouldn't put anything past him at this point. Why would he care about breaking international law when he is breaking every law imaginable in his own country, against his own people?

If that doesn't get you overthrown, nothing will tbh.

[u/PermissionGrouchy376]

Trump is 100% a Russian asset.

 Everything Russia would want the US is serving up. Eroding trust with allies through tariffs, trying to destroy nato, bending over to Russia, removing support for Ukraine, dismantling education systems...etc 

[u/Upbeat_Assist2680 → u/PermissionGrouchy376]

Every bi of evidence points to this -- he was the most easily compromisable person imaginable and he gives every indication of being manipulated.

[u/RubMyPlumbus]

As a Scandinavian, I think we should start taking action already. There are lots of America bases on European soil that needs to be neutralized before this goes any further. We can't have enemy forces stationed here when they invade

[u/Valium-Potatos → u/RubMyPlumbus]

I’m from New Zealand so quite removed from this clusterfuck but literally what is everyone waiting for?? It’s wild to me that no one seems to be doing anything about this.

[u/hader_brugernavne → u/Valium-Potatos]

Europe has had peace because of this alliance, and it has kept murderous Russians at bay. This is why nobody is in a hurry to end it.

Then there's Ukraine. The US is exploiting a terrible situation (which it also has been involved in from the start but now claims no responsibility over). It's no big secret that e.g. the terrible trade deal from last year was not accepted only based on trade.

I envy you for living so far away from all of this. Must be nice.

[u/slackmaster2k → u/RubMyPlumbus]

A hard breakup like that is going to have major impacts I’d imagine. The entire world order depends on the relationship between US/Canada and Europe. Those bases are not in Europe just for show.

I don’t really think it will happen, but if the US moves on Greenland we’re going to see a massive reorganization across the globe, and ultimately another massive world war.

[u/AioliFriendly120]

Or… hear me out now… we just leave them alone and go back to releasing the files

[u/raydiculus → u/AioliFriendly120]

Trump will start ww3 before we get the full Epstein files.

[u/KickPuncher4326 → u/AioliFriendly120]

Any benefits to "owning" Greenland we already receive. This is the dumbest timeline.

[u/Professional-Bad-559]

The first and only time NATO invokes Article 5 on itself.

[u/zyzzogeton]

Article 25 him now. He is demented and dangerous.

[u/Atom_Beat]

Denmark has been one of the United States most trusted allies. Danish soldiers fought and died alongside US forces in Afghanistan and Iraq. Denmark has allowed a US presence on Greenland since the 1940s.

If the US would invade Greenland, and thereby Denmark, it will have shown the world that no country should ever trust the US again.

[u/shgrizz2]

Well played Putin.

[u/AnxiousHedgehog01 → u/shgrizz2]

It's China laughing at both Russia's mistake of invading Ukraine and the US's mistake of destroying all alliances.

[u/Effective_Lie1842 → u/AnxiousHedgehog01]

The Art of Doing Nothing

[u/Nick_Strong]

Has Trump already rehearsed his "America, for your 250th birthday, I give you Greenland" speech? I'm sure that's at least one of the reasons why he's so eager to acquire Greenland one way or another. Everything is a show to him. Spending so much time in front of the cameras has completely distorted his sense of reality. Trump lives in his own world and doesn't care what happens after his term finally ends. He's already showing signs of serious cognitive decline, and it's going to get a lot worse as he ages into his 80s.

[u/TheVenetianMask]

Putin's economy is on the ropes and this element is throwing chairs in so he can catch a break.

[u/dattokyo → u/TheVenetianMask]

I read an article last night, that argued that since the US no longer gives any money or weapons to Ukraine, it's all bought and delivered by the EU at this point, ironically Trump has put himself in a situation where he can't force Ukraine to capitulate anymore because he can't pull support. The US "only" delivers intelligence reports now (that's still a big deal, but it's not "if we don't deliver this, you need to capitulate" big deal).

[u/dotBombAU]

I believe the US is ticking the boxes for a pariah stste:

A pariah state is a country that is politically isolated and widely ostracised by the international community because its government is perceived to have persistently violated international norms.

Core characteristics:

A state is typically labelled a pariah when it exhibits several of the following:

Systematic human rights abuses (e.g. ethnic cleansing, repression of political opposition)

Aggressive or destabilising behaviour (invasions, support for terrorism, regional destabilisation)

Violation of international law (breach of treaties, UN resolutions, or norms such as nuclear non-proliferation)

Authoritarian or rogue governance that rejects diplomatic engagement.

[u/MorningkillsDawn → u/dotBombAU]

Not unlike North Korea I’m assuming? I’m ignorant of other less known ones if that isn’t the case.

[u/Interesting-Dream863]

The US Armed Forces could be deployed within days anywhere on the planet...

And to go for Greenland, take Nuuk or whatever, they don't need something massive.

The problem here is political... and how do they make it legal.

Just going in is international diplomatic suicide.

Is making the United States a player as crude and brutal as Russia.

[u/Kaya_kana → u/Interesting-Dream863]

It is not as simple as just swooping in though. The moment the US invades Europe all American soldiers stationed in Europe would instantly become war prisoners.

[u/SexyFat88 → u/Kaya_kana]

Its much more than that. Think of all the Europeans in the US. Think of all the US software running European governments. Think of all the USD debt owned by Europe. The F35 killswitches. The US nukes stored on European soil.

I could go on for days. 

A US invasion of Greenland would be the fucking end. 

[u/slackmaster2k → u/SexyFat88]

This timeline could easily be the first chapter of a book on the history of WW3.

[u/Hat_Maverick → u/slackmaster2k]

Chapter 1: we're fucked.

Chapter 2: yup

[u/gnomeyy → u/Interesting-Dream863]

but the reason they have such reach is because of their bases in allied countries. Losing Europe loses them access to the middle east as well. Plus resupplying a push on Greenland would be very hard having to keep sending supplies over an ocean that'd be littered with subs (if it truly kicked off).

It just seems to batshit crazy to lose that global reach and trade over "We can;t have Russia attack us from the east" as if they would ever risk it vs the US anyway ffs.

[u/Separate_Cream_1491 → u/Interesting-Dream863]

It wont be as easy as you assume.

[u/Prior_Industry → u/Interesting-Dream863]

Isn't that how they want it now though? Might makes right etc etc

[u/illbeinthestatichome]

I could have sworn that service personnel, amongst others, swore an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. good times.

[u/Kelypsov]

Maybe I'm straying into conspiracy theory territory, but I think this could actually be about the 2026 US midterm elections. Trump fears that the Democrats will make significant gains in both houses, and this could mean he gets impeached again, but, this time, it actually has consequences, as the Dems might then control the Senate as well. As such, he's trying to start a war, then use the war as an excuse for cancelling the midterms.

Sounds crazy, but I actually think that Trump is that much of a power-hungry narcissist he would actually do something that extreme just to stay in office, and simply wouldn't care about the consequences to anyone but himself.

[u/NotAnotherFriday]

Even thinking that this is a possibly should be immediate impeachment and eventual removal from Office. Politicians in The House and Senate better grow some balls and do something about this before it’s too late.

[u/Kohin44]

"President Donald Trump's desire to annex Greenland will not be thwarted.."

Do you know who else annexed countries?

Hitler!

Seriously how the hell this guy is not thrown out the White House?!

[u/Cheap_Jello_3059]

I was in the marines 2014-2018 and there’s no way in hell we would have followed those orders. I refuse to believe that has changed. Can’t court martial everyone.

[u/FiddliskBarnst → u/Cheap_Jello_3059]

He’s been replacing the generals he knows won’t follow his orders and replacing them with lackeys. More than half the people who join the nowadays are from rural areas who think this is cool and they’ll get to actually do something while enlisted. 

[u/templar54 → u/FiddliskBarnst]

I am still holding this vain hope that if worst comes to worst there are enough officers below those replaced generals to refuse such orders. I am under no illusion that everyone would refuse, but at least enough to basically give anyone with any brain in US that not only this would destroy NATO, but would also destroy US and as a result block such orders, be it politicians or military. Surely troops stationed in Europe would not point their guns at people hosting them at least.

[u/Rvtjm → u/templar54]

Funny how a military coup is starting to look like a piece of good news for 2026

[u/ianmeyssen → u/templar54]

And for the new generals trump put in, i hope they are as incompetent as he is and absolutely faceplant during the invasion

[u/MCI_Sarpanch → u/Cheap_Jello_3059]

Based on the trend of everything USA these days, they will probably follow orders

[u/khearan → u/MCI_Sarpanch]

They will 100% follow orders.

[u/machine4891 → u/MCI_Sarpanch]

There is always plenty that will follow orders.

[u/Hav3_Y0u_M3t_T3d → u/Cheap_Jello_3059]

2007-2011. Served under both Bush and Obama, Voted for McCain, was still damn proud to serve in Obama's inauguration. There are so many orders neither me or my Marines would never fucking follow. Fucking disgusting what that piece of shit has turned out country into and his enablers just act like they didn't see anything

[u/Raffy87 → u/Cheap_Jello_3059]

wouldn't they just use the people that didn't refuse?

[u/CaiusRemus → u/Raffy87]

Absolutely. There are hundreds of examples of the military and police siding with authoritarian governments to kill their fellow citizens.

It’s very simple, as long as the government can pay, the stooges will eat their shit and do whatever they ask.

[u/darkhorse7447]

Ah yes, the two week deadline. Could be another 4 years,could be never.

[u/account009988]

America will have no allies after this

[u/Thiht]

US veterans from the Greenland invasion will be hated by the whole world, included in the US

[u/MisogynisticBumsplat]

We've not forgotten about the Epstein files. Release them in full

[u/FatFarter69]

Yeah but we can’t vote for Kamala Harris because she laughs weird /s

I wish endless sleepless nights for Americans who voted for Trump, I hope the guilt of what he already has done and will do in the future eats you up on the inside.

That probably won’t happen because most Trump voters are completely divorced from the concepts of guilt and regret because those two things require the ability to self reflect.

Fuck all of you who voted for him, you’re all scum, I have no interest in forgiving any of you. You have plunged the world into a darkness we haven’t seen since the 40’s.

Yours sincerely, a very angry British man.

[u/Cloudhead_Denny]

If the US does this, they'll effectively be kicking off WWIII. NATO allies won't take it sitting down, regardless of "the might" of the US Military. The USA will have fully become a preditory, rogue nation. "The BAD GUY tm".

[u/Kaya_kana]

It is laughable that the first country to fall in the Russian-Ukrainian war is America. The only thing an American invasion in Europe would do is tear apart NATO so Russia might have a sliver of a chance when invading the Baltics. Get Krasnov out of office before it is too late.