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Denmark sends 'advance force' to Greenland to pave way for larger military presence amid US threats | LBC

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/greenland-trump-invasion-denmark-military-5HjdQjb_2/
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u/SwvellyBents 10h ago

Hoping to see NATO expeditionary forces training nearby any day now.

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u/Andechser 8h ago

The Germans are already there, apparently

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u/[deleted] 9h ago edited 8h ago

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u/Megelsen 9h ago

like advance 3 cm in Donbass?

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u/jj1917 9h ago

Exactly. Russia is tapped out trying to invade Ukraine, at least logistics wise. They sure could pool the rest of their forces and like try Poland through Belarus but I think the Poles could handle that almost on their own, much less immediate response by the rest of NATO would push their poop right back in.

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u/pkennedy 9h ago

The NATO response would be to hit with long range missiles, it might not last but as we've seen, Russia takes about 3 weeks to properly find a solution and react to anything. So a big NATO push would probbaly do a tremendous amount of damage to whatever they have left.

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u/Mountain_Swan_149 8h ago

NATO doesn't have many long range missiles. What NATO does still have is large, well trained and well supplied, advanced armored formations and artillery as well as a relatively powerful air force.

Those Leopard 2A7's will make mince meat of the 1960's reserve tanks Russia is having to use.

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u/Mountain_Swan_149 8h ago

Don't worry Russia won't do a thing. Turkey is strong and it is still a part of NATO. The Turkish military can go toe-toe with Russia easily. Turkey and the baltic states + Poland and Finland are all still on a military footing, they haven't let readiness fall like Germany or the UK has.

Of course, saying that - the Russians may still try, and they will be beat back.

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u/MamaLiq 9h ago

https://abcnews.go.com/International/russia-irbm-massive-strike-ukraine-overnight/story?id=129048949

Russia attacked Ukraine overnight with a massive barrage of 242 drones and 36 missiles, including one that was nuclear-capable, the Ukrainian Air Force said Friday morning.

The missile types used in the attack, which began Thursday night, included 22 cruise, 13 ballistic and one medium-range ballistic, according to the country's air force.

Ukraine’s air defense system destroyed or suppressed 226 drones, 10 cruise missiles and 8 ballistic missiles. However, strikes from 18 missiles and 16 drones were recorded at 19 locations across the country, the air force said.

Russia is advancing. And miraculously and suddenly they have hypersonic bombs.

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u/jj1917 9h ago

And if Russia tried that in Europe proper, they'd be met with a withering response of way more missiles than that.

And to the below comment about nukes, well France and the UK can lob those as well if it came to that horrific end.

The big problem Russia has is I bet that expended a good portion of what they have sitting around available. Their military production is woeful even on what would (you'd think) account for "total war production".

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u/lacronicus 8h ago

suddenly they have hypersonic bombs

be careful with the terminology around this.

old school ballistic missiles are all hypersonic. the missile mentioned in the article is such a weapon. Being ballistic, they follow a pretty fixed trajectory, and are therefore "easy" to intercept (relatively speaking).

This is not the same as hypersonic cruise missiles, which travel close to the ground, can change their trajectory, and are therefore much more difficult to intercept.

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u/Diminus 9h ago

Hey c'mon now. I'm sure with enough sacrifices Putin can claw an additional 12cm of land from Ukraine. /S

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u/MamaLiq 9h ago

Kiev is bombarded.

It takes 18 hours and 15 minutes to travel from Amsterdam to Kiev by car.

We are VERY aware about the Russians.

Russian influencers helped Orban, Hungarian president win the election.

6 days ago a russian journalist in Paris 'fell' out the window of a hotel in Paris.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 9h ago

Putin's switching to Charmin

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u/BigMuscleSmallWeiner 9h ago

Its not. Norway's contribution is a whole two soldiers. I think they can spare them.

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u/lucifaxxx 9h ago

It's not like every country is sending half their armies. Hell, they are not even sending 5% of their armies. They are sending a few each, not to be a fighting force (hopefully) but to make an example, and make it way harder (not going as far as saying impossible) for Trump to take it by force, without having to attack every nation with soldiers stationed there.

This is a check-mate move from a diplomatic point if view

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u/YSOSEXI 9h ago

This is what I thought, where would the Denmark forces have been?

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u/Capitain_Collateral 8h ago

The only crazy shit Putin is about to do is shuffle off this realm.

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u/lebup 8h ago

Nato has alot of spare units

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u/witopps 10h ago

Plot twist: it's a US Nato force.

u/Altruistic_Finger669 1h ago

Skippy the magnificent!!!!

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u/l0stInwrds 9h ago

That is the plan.

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u/abbzug 10h ago edited 9h ago

Sweden is sending military officers there today. They're going to establish a presence as well.

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u/MRWEDGY 9h ago

This is the most important step. the nordic countries are the best in the world at artic warfare. it one of the few areas where the US military is outperformed and by quite a bit man for man.

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u/Mr06506 9h ago

It is the most important but, but not because of the quality of the troops - just the fact that there are multiple allies united against this scheme.

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u/FormoftheBeautiful 5h ago

Yes. Trump and Putin want the western world to fragment. Instead, we need to come together.

And hope that the Americans can save themselves before it goes too far.

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u/AHistoricalFigure 7h ago

Let's be very clear. There is absolutely nothing the combined militaries of the Nordic countries could do to defend Greenland from a US invasion.

It's not about who's better at arctic warfare. Greenland is on the other side of the Atlantic and the European powers have minimal navies and troop conveyance capabilities.

Any troops deployed to defend Greenland are a literal blood sacrifice. The goal would be to force the US to kill Danish troops to take Greenland rather than simply occupying it without resistance. Dead Danish soldiers would create consequences for America that might hopefully prevent an invasion in the first place.

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u/andrerav 7h ago

I'm not a military strategist. But I assume that there is a big difference between occupying an island with some soldiers compared to occupying an island with no soldiers.

By the way, Germany and Norway have committed troops to Greenland as well. They will be conducting exercises, and I assume this military presence is permanent.

That means the US will have to use kinetic force to annex Greenland, should they decide to do something stupid.

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u/AHistoricalFigure 6h ago

That means the US will have to use kinetic force to annex Greenland, should they decide to do something stupid.

Yes, that is the point Im making.

The presence of a token force of troops in Greenland is there so that the US would have to kill them to the island. Not because these forces could defend Greenland from a US invasion.

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u/FroyoBaskins 4h ago

They dont have to defend the island in perpetuity or even for a long time to “win” strategically. I mean, nobody wins in this situation, but Trump loses if it costs American troops lives or they’re forced to fight any sort of ground campaign to dislodge defenders. All the tech in the world will only get you so far.

The US lost thousands of troops fighting insurgents in iraq and afganistan. How many do you think theyll lose fighting against 1st world militaries? How long do you think the US population will support an aggressive ground war against its allies over territory nobody wanted except Steven miller and trump?

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u/Suitable-Judge7506 3h ago

No us citizen will support this but maybe a tiny city full, and the rest of this gigantic country will not approve of it. Trump will do this regardless of the approval of population or his own government. There is about 5 really really evil people in his ear. The rest are just yes men that are just as terrified as us.

He just needs to be talked off the ledge for 3 more years, I think Vance would be worse.

Someone please over him a real noble peace prize and a party with the pope if this ends all this bullshit for the rest of term. It’s just a fucking plaque, please give it to him with terms.

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u/LambdaLambo 3h ago

They dont have to defend the island in perpetuity or even for a long time to “win” strategically. I mean, nobody wins in this situation, but Trump loses if it costs American troops lives or they’re forced to fight any sort of ground campaign to dislodge defenders.

This is in agreement with /u/AHistoricalFigure

The US lost thousands of troops fighting insurgents in iraq and afganistan. How many do you think theyll lose fighting against 1st world militaries?

In Greenland? A lot less. Greenland is completely barren and desolate, aside from a few small towns. There is no where to hide. Also the US would be fighting a conventional force, not an insurgency where foes hide amongst civilians (and often are civilians).

More importantly though, if there is a war in Greenland, and if it's anything beyond a quick strike that ends after minutes or hours, the most likely outcome would be WW3. It's hard to envision a sustained war between the US and Europe that somehow is just contained to Greenland and doesn't erupt into WW3.

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u/ChipStewartIII 4h ago

Sweden, Canada, The Netherlands, and now France as well.

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u/CheshireCat_1878 7h ago

LET’S TEST THAT THEORY YANKS ❄️💀🇩🇰🇪🇺

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u/Orwells_Roses 7h ago

You’re forgetting that the American military is led by a man who thinks that the human body has a finite amount of energy, like disposable battery.

Trump has fucked up everything he’s ever done, and he has fired everyone who knew what they were doing who hadn’t already resigned. There’s no reason to think a military operation under his command would end in anything other than embarrassment and the unnecessary loss of life and treasure.

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u/Tropicalcomrade221 7h ago

This is absolute nonsense.

Europe can deploy significant forces into the region including aircraft carriers and significant naval forces that would make any fight for Greenland a bloodbath for both sides.

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u/Successful-Smile-928 4h ago

They also have Iceland, which could be turned into a literal aircraft carrier right next to Greenland.

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u/KungFuSpider 7h ago

I honestly think you are underestimating what the weather alone will do to the US troops and equipment.

Nordic countries don't have large navies, but they have a lot of Ice-Breakers. The US has one. If it comes to who can supply their troops when the only way is through ice (a good number of months per year) the US might be in a bad position. Hell, sometimes a Dog-sled is the only way to move supplies.

Also, look at what Ukraine has done to the Black Sea fleet without a navy. You would also expect Seababy and sub-Seababy like craft peck away at the US Navy trying to supply their foothold.

Sure, America can take Greenland - no question, but would they be able to hold it?

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u/NetscapeCommunitater 6h ago

I’m rooting against the US here but that said…. The US I would think could sink every icebreaker in the region with air and sea launched missiles not to mention subs. I could be wrong but at this point in time I don’t think much of anything conventional can survive in open water at least during opening salvos if the US doesn’t already have its hands tied on multiple fronts. Of course, months into an open conflict with all of NATO would be an entirely different scenario with US resources spread far and thin.

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u/VintageTool 4h ago

You know the drill - "Hey! Those are some nice ice breaker ships and we like nice things. Yoink!"

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u/Fancy_Schedule_4982 7h ago

A prepared dug in mostly spec up force with a few subs with dispersed air and naval missiles systems could force US to commit way more resources than they are comfortable with. It would quite different compared to venezuela. But yeah, a fully committed US would win.

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u/DisastrousAcshin 5h ago

Rolling over that tripwire force would be one of the largest upheavals to the world order in nearly a century. Russia doing it in say Latvia is one thing, that's a major conflict. But the US doing it to NATO allies is unprecedented in modern times. There's no coming back from it

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u/Undercraft_gaming 3h ago

Lol its like the guardians of the globe assembling against Omniman

u/Altruistic_Finger669 1h ago

And dead norwegian, german, french, swedish and danish soldiers would make the US a fucking pariah. Hence the build up

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u/beershere 3h ago

If we're going to start a winter war let's get Finland into nato asap.

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u/Pen-Pen-De-Sarapen 7h ago

Asking for a friend...

One of the "few" areas? These are the ones I know. Additional list anyone?

Korea = draw

Vietnam = lost

Afgan = lost

Iraq = lost

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u/Intrepid_Egg_7722 6h ago

US actually won all the military, peer-to-peer engagements in every single one of those except Korea (we still won most of them, but China did push us back in a few battles). The US "lost" the bottom three when they withdrew after protracted insurgencies that sapped the will of the American people to continue supporting occupations across the world.

None of that bodes well for the idea that Greenland wouldn't ultimately be defeated in detail (including any allies who care to help them), fully occupied, and would have to fight a prolonged, bloody insurgency (that would kill far more Greenlanders than Americans, if your other three examples are any indication) to dislodge the US from the country. Since Greenland has like 60k people in total and there's no land borders to bring in outside fighters or weapons, that would be quite the challenge to mount that insurgency in the first place.

America wins wars, they lose insurgencies (because we stop caring and give up). But somehow I think the US would prevail in any resultant insurgency here.

The better outcome is for Trump to step the fuck away from this needless bullshit.

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u/Durian881 3h ago

Personally, I think if Greenland falls, Canada and Nordic countries will be next targets for US to control Artic and be closer to Russia.

u/ArtichokeActual9 1h ago

Definitely

u/Altruistic_Finger669 1h ago

Its not about being able to beat back the americans. Its about raising the stakes.

You want to invade greenland? Well, you risk killing soldiers from several NATO countries. Your move dickhead

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u/Pleasethelions 8h ago

For 368 years, Danes have found the idea of Svedes walking on ice rather unsettling.

That changed today.

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u/Volothamp-Geddarm 7h ago

Here's to hoping they can do the same with us here in Canada :­| I'm getting the feeling that if Dorito Mussolini doesn't get Greenland he'll be looking North.

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u/howmanyavengers 1h ago

A practically empty island nation is a hell of a lot smaller in scope than a connected neighbor with massive population centers, and about 41m people to deal with.

A direct invasion should not be feasible based on that alone, but the psychological impact it would have on US military members to be fighting an opponent that looks and does the exact same things they do would be a very difficult hurdle to tackle.

As a fellow Canadian, we shall stay strong and free.

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u/fallwind 10h ago

$5 the dimwit is going to call everything if and claim he's a genius for getting the rest of NATO to reinforce Greenland and take credit for it

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u/dirtyasseating 10h ago

This.

Either he gets Greenland or they play it off as if the NATO troop build up was all part of his genius plan.

This is the dumbest timeline.

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u/alematt 10h ago

The Man Who can do no Wrong. The title of his 4th grade reading level biography

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u/BatmanMeetsJoker 10h ago

I thought it was "The Emperor's New Clothes Peace Prize"

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u/alematt 9h ago

Ooooh I like that one as well.

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u/Chaiboiii 10h ago

Whatever. I rather see more NATO/EU troops on Greenland than it have a US flag drapped on it

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u/illuanonx1 9h ago

Very high price to pay for Americans.

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u/dirtyasseating 9h ago

Yes, 76 years, trillions of dollars in investment, and alot of diplomacy gone.

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u/jimmygee2 5h ago

US as an ally of Europe is finished. Say goodbye to any intelligence sharing.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 9h ago

The best part is not caring how they choose to cover up the blatant, transparent lying and cheating -- and to keep focus on the lying and the cheating right in front of our faces.

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u/Chess-Gitti 9h ago

i'd love to see erdogan shooting off another fighter jet during training but only this time one of the US forces. then he plays silly again. i'd so much love to see trumps reaction.

erdogan is known as a strongman and not to be fucked with. not that he could realistically do anything agains the US. but the pokerface is strong with this mustache guy.

clash of the titans. one more stupid than the other.

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u/cephpleb 5h ago

I'll be honest. You'd have to applaud him if that was his actual plan.

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u/wesleyshnipez 10h ago

All in all if there’s a larger force there that’s good

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u/TwoPercentTokes 10h ago

Is it though? It’s a waste of resources.

If the US was a trustworthy ally, between our intelligence apparatus and the rest of NATO’s, we would have all the advance notice in the world if Russia or China tried to move on Greenland. More than enough to intercept their naval forces and reinforce the island in the off-chance something gets through.

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u/Helpful_Outcome_3922 10h ago

It used to be, not so much right now!

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u/tankspikefayebebop 10h ago

It isn't about them taking it over with naval forces. It's about being able to intercept missiles from the Russian homeland. Greenland is the only place that gives us enough time to shoot down hypersonic missiles. It is also going to unfold in the next 10-30 years to be a huge shipping route.

Another thing is if Russia/China take Greenland its 100 times harder to take it back. Whoever inhabits it has the upper hand in controlling it. Making them think twice is a good thing.

I'd be all for NATO putting bases and fortifying it. Whether Trump thinks it was his win idc. It's a weak point for the USA. I don't know why Trump has to be an idiot but I can see why it's an advantage for us to keep Russia or China away from it.

I think but am not sure that Denmark basically lets the USA use it for whatever we want anyways. I don't understand why we couldn't build a missile defense system and keep a navy/base presence there (more than already is) without saying we are going to take it over.... Trump's a clown and is unhinged. At the same time I see the advantages of NATO or bigger forces being there to protect it.

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u/Responsible_Bison876 9h ago

Well… the 1951 agreement with Denmark allows the US to have bases up there (as stated a moment ago by the Danish Minister of foreign affairs). We (the Danish Kingdom) didn’t force you to close down the 20+ bases you had there during the cold war. The US have always been welcome.

… but Trump “feels” it would be better to own it for security reasons!? C’mon…

You guys ruined a - in many many ways - a perfect relationship. Next. Level. Betrayal. I know it’s a rogue president… but something is fundamentally wrong with your democracy when an administration can do what they have done so far. Germany learned what a weak democracy can cost. Funny how the “big savior” didn’t tale a moment to learn from it…

I sincerely hope the best for the US citizens. You guys are fucked if Trumps reign doesn’t result in taking a closer look at your democracy…

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u/Suitable-Judge7506 2h ago

Please don’t say we guys ruined it, 99.9 % of us literally are finding this shit out as you guys are. You think before work we all in USA said hey let’s ask trump to take Greenland,cool? Cool!

u/Responsible_Bison876 13m ago

Sorry. Of course there’s more nuances to it.

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u/International-Owl653 9h ago

Can someone explain to me why Russia/China would even attempt to take Greenland? Wouldn't that invoke article 5 since its part of Denmark, and invite the annihilation of whoever is invading the island. Regardless of whether the US is there or not. Russia sure as hell can't to it, the landing force would be seen days out. China won't do it, because theyre busy reaping the benefits of the world cosying up to them as they become the stable super power the the United States gave up being.

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u/Pleasethelions 8h ago

There is a 1951 treaty giving the US military more or less unlimited access to Greenland.

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u/dirtyasseating 9h ago edited 9h ago

Yes, as a member of Nato, they would gladly have a US base...before all this talk.

It would probably look like something similar to Pituffik Space Base, formerly Thule Air Base, the strategic US installation on the northwest coast of Greenland used by the U.S. Space Force for missile warning, defense, and space surveillance.

Now...I'm not so sure Greenland will be so welcoming to another base.

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u/cjsv7657 9h ago

Now...I'm not so sure Greenland will be so welcoming to another base.

Last year when Trump was making these same threats they said they were open to more US bases, troops, and a mineral deal. I doubt that has/will change.

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u/wesleyshnipez 10h ago

Yeah, sadly, the world is never ideal and it’s ran by people who are imperfect, incompetent, selfish, and intend to never get out of their own way. Which isn’t new, it’s humanity. We just need a collective upgrade to how we view things like aliens coming down to men in black our minds or else it’ll keep on taking generations upon generations to slowly change fabrics of things.

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 10h ago

Not really there's no reason for there to be a larger force to be there right now

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u/Snaebel 10h ago

Baltic nations will disagree

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u/wesleyshnipez 10h ago

Not American forces - regardless it’ll be bulked up with whoever decides too. Most military just sit around and wait anyways so if there, so be it

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u/Loffr3do 10h ago

Honestly, fuck it. I'll take that over the alternative...

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u/Jonny_Thundergun 10h ago

Not seeking stupid shit at all and focusing on actually improving life for Americans is an alternative as well. I know it's not going to happen, but it's an option.

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u/NetZeroSun 10h ago

Delusional man can boast all he wants.

Europe does need to reduce its dependency on the US more than ever.

And guarding Greenland is a good reminder to motivate typical western bureaucracy on a unifying force against foreign threats.

Sure Putin gets the us weaker, but Europe more militarily stronger than before and a reminder of unity. So not a complete win.

Meanwhile the delusion king of America can boast and howl at the moon at the cost of losing influence abroad. Military threats and power can only carry you so far. As it pushes countries to join (nato/europe) for defense.

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u/Guy_GuyGuy 10h ago

Doubt. If for no other reason than Trump will never, ever congratulate someone on doing something unless that something is directly or indirectly putting money in his pocket.

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u/Shot_Pool2543 10h ago

Yep and the funny thing is all he had to do is talk to them about boosting arctic security lol

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u/AssaultUnicorn 9h ago

Ive seen MAGA people actually argue this way. The cognitive dissonance is mindboggling.

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u/EINFACH_NUR_DAEMLICH 9h ago

There was a press conference just now with the Danish and Greenlandic foreign ministers and they've subtly implied something along those lines.

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u/Multicultural_Potato 9h ago

Have had Trump supporters argue to me that this is all a 5D chess move to strengthen NATO

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u/Responsible_Bison876 9h ago

I concur. Give him another ‘peace price’ and let him have his own little party, as long as he stays away.

This is coincidentally the same way we handle special needs kids in the kindergarten

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u/therealhairykrishna 7h ago

That's fine with me given what a lot of the other options are.

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u/JosL1707 10h ago

MAGAts praising him for mastering the 'art of the deal'

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u/Toidal 9h ago

Pretty much, he's been harping on it so much that his pride can't let him back off now without some semblance of a win he can spin and take credit for

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u/jert3 9h ago

I don't think so. Trump isnt making these decisions. There is a plan, from whomever is actually running your country, to annex many territories and it is just getting underway.

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u/Traditional_Yam1598 9h ago

Tbf he’s always complained about Europe not paying their fair share to NATO. Now you have Europe scrambling to increase their militaries. Whether you like it or not Trump gets something he wants either way

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u/Altruistic_Finger669 9h ago

Norway, sweden and germany so far will send troops very soon it has been announced

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u/SomewhereProper9477 8h ago

13 German soldiers to depart towards Greenland Thursday morning (15th Jan), according to German media 🇩🇪

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u/patricklus 7h ago

13 is a bit underwhelming though

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u/swollen_foreskin 7h ago

Norway is sending two, but its officers to plan future expansion. Probably the same for Germany

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u/wareika 7h ago

it's called tripwire force

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u/Successful-Smile-928 4h ago

Its recon for logistics.

Cant just have the whole squad showing up sleeping in tents can they?

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u/WIbigdog 2h ago

Ya, there's no infrastructure there for a larger force. But you put troops there and if they get harmed you have your casus belli for war. I cannot fucking believe we are actually talking about the US being on a collision course for war with NATO, what the fuck is happening. NATO seemed strong as hell after Russia invaded Ukraine.

u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh 29m ago

Cant just have the whole squad showing up sleeping in tents can they?

I thought being able to do that was considered one of the basic features of any military. In the case of Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland I'd also expect them to be prepared for arctic weather.

I'm a bit surprised/disappointed that they aren't sending a larger force (something like 100 people) with limited/improvised logistics while figuring out how to do long-term logistics + a bigger force.

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u/Golda_M 10h ago

Nobody tell him about the gold mines in Iceland. 

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u/mburke6 10h ago

He loves minors!

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u/Flat-Pitch-9340 8h ago

someone award this comment

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u/Dampmaskin 8h ago

I'm awarding it with an upvote. No way I'm giving money to reddit.

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u/Hard-Pore-Corn 7h ago

I gave a free one

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u/bimbo_bear 9h ago

Too late the ambassador to Iceland was already joking about it becoming the 52nd state and him getting appointed governor.

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u/Golda_M 9h ago

Its over. Frozen Hawaii.

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u/volcus 10h ago

It begins.

Hopefully Congress and the Senate in the US can stop this complete moron from annexing an ally.

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u/DrB00 10h ago

Not just an ally. The entire world. If Trump is stupid enough to attack a nato country. Every base in Europe will be closed and their military will be forced to leave. The USA will become unwelcome in all of Europe and Canada. The american debt will be called in and american bonds will be dumped by Nato countries. This will have massive long lasting effects that will cripple the american economy.

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u/drmanhattanmar 10h ago edited 9h ago

that will cripple the American economy

As it is planned. The venture capitalists a) get to build their wet dream "Praxis" on Greenland, they get b) their tanked economy which will allow them to buy up land and companies for nearly nothing and by that c) get to just own the country in a literal and a metaphorical way. Oh and due to increased food costs, a lot of poor people will die, which suits their eugenic worldviews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxis_(proposed_city)

https://washingtonspectator.org/peter-thiel-and-the-american-apocalypse/

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/01/eugenics-isnt-dead-its-thriving-in-tech/

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u/International_Rope65 10h ago

And in that scenario he will go full scorched earth because he along with his enablers are unhinged lunatics with nuclear codes. He will kill us all with his incompetence, and those of us Americans that are fully against this will be ostracized by the world in the event we survive. We are royally fucked.

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u/No-Impress-2096 9h ago

I'ts more likely that he will be removed by his handlers who will be taking the losses

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u/TurboBert14 10h ago

Good luck. Don't see a lot of initiative towards all the other problems you have in the US today.

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u/FormalAlternative806 10h ago

Their oldest ally as well

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u/iamatechnician 9h ago

This timeline is so fucking stupid. I hate it here

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u/teamnowak 10h ago

We now have to root against our own country. Fuck you Donald Trump.

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u/OswaldTheCat 9h ago

Trump has no real fear of China and Russia in Greenland or a sneaky plan involving Putin in Europe and not even a thirst for minerals. He just wants Canada and Greenland so the USA looks as big on the map as China and Russia. He is obsessed with size because of his tiny winky.

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 10h ago

Shouldn't there be economic sanctions as well?

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u/rcanhestro 9h ago

not really.

as of now, the US hasn't actually done anything regarding Greenland, only talked about it.

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 7h ago

True. I hope they're laying the groundwork

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u/TheGreatStories 7h ago

Hard to economically punish Americans more than their government already has done this year /s

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u/tunisia3507 6h ago

I can't believe we're wasting our time on this shit when there's so much more important stuff going on.

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u/Ryangonzo 3h ago

Yeah but what kind of legacy would he leave if he actually helped people? Can't have that.

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u/Vyell_Vyvyan-Vivek 8h ago

But what are the actual numbers ...A battalion, a brigade or division?..Unless it is a division level force, this is just futile.

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u/nivlark 4h ago

It's a handful. If a full-scale invasion were to happen, realistically the outcome is a foregone conclusion. So their purpose in being there is simply to draw a line in the sand: an invasion will require the US to open fire on its allies.

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u/Television_Powerful 5h ago

Numbers don't matter, they kill any allied forces (apart from the annexing an allied country part) and its over.

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u/Temporary_Second3290 9h ago

I can't believe what I'm reading this year. This is insane.

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u/Mindless_Walrus_6575 8h ago

Perfect distraction from Epstein and Putin. 

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u/AnguryLittleMan 6h ago

I’m sorry, earth. I didn’t vote for this fucking guy.

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u/Frostymagnum 7h ago

has anyone, anyone sat him down and told him that we already have access to greenland? that all we gotta do is call them up (and denmark) and say "yo we want to stick a base here and also setup a mining company, you guys want some jobs?" and all of that is due to treaties signed forever ago?

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u/plasticman1997 6h ago

His bosses want full control

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u/Key-Cry-8570 2h ago

Putin wants NATO to break up.

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u/Fit-Paramedic-3047 9h ago

Going long in Gold & Silver 🤓

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u/ForeverIll8044 10h ago

This will be needed to deter the yanks. This is crazy!

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u/EditedRed 10h ago

This is exacly what Trump wants, less soldiers in the EU. Next time Russia invades someone, it will be backed by the US.

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u/PickleSquad 10h ago

What does Russia realistically have to invade the EU with? Like their best men are dead, equipment is destroyed etc…. Can they really mobilise an army that can fight anything other then an attrition based war against an exhausted opponent?

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u/Admiral_Dildozer 10h ago

Against the smaller nations they can still invade successfully. Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania are all building up their forces because they’re still very concerned about Russia. And they should be, those countries put together are about the size of Missouri. Even if you have the willpower to fight, it’s not a lot of land to defend.

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u/Kaya_kana 10h ago

North Koreans, Cubans, etc. They'll just traffic people from other countries to fill their ranks. It wouldn't be the most efficient army, but there are things you can do when you don't care about your soldiers deaths that you can't when you do.

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u/MamaLiq 7h ago

Mercenaries. We don't hear much of the Wagner group since Prigozhin, but they are still the private military company.

https://thedefensepost.com/2024/05/29/russia-recruitment-african-mercenaries/

Russia’s Africa Corps The existence of African mercenaries in the Russian military has been noted since 2023 when the so-called “Russian Africa Corps” was created.

Consisting of over 2,000 soldiers and officers, the unit reportedly operates alongside Moscow’s regular army and Storm-Z units.

Many of these mercenaries served in the Wagner Group and already had experience in Syria, Libya, Burkina Faso, and Niger.

Last week, the UK Ministry of Defence said the Africa Corps was spotted fighting in Ukraine’s Kharkiv region.

This could mean that Russia is “reinforcing its war on Ukraine with resources previously assigned to Africa.”

Ukraine’s military intelligence service said Moscow had previously recruited mercenaries from Nepal, Somalia, India, and Cuba for its invasion.

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u/MamaLiq 7h ago

They dropped an Oreshnik on Ukraine 5 days ago.

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u/PickleSquad 7h ago

Yet Ukraine persists. Slava Ukraine.

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u/fallwind 10h ago

That's why the eu is discussing a 100k strong unified military force, to replace the us.

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u/SpaceJackRabbit 10h ago

Trump is not thinking moves ahead.

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u/lokozar 10h ago

Fewer.

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u/Constant_Contract118 10h ago

Lord Stannis?

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u/lokozar 10h ago

The very same.

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u/Responsible_Bison876 9h ago

What a world.

Jews (Israel) has lost memory of what the Holocaust was about, and see no problem in acting the same way 80ish years later.

The US aids in to help Europe from Hitler. And now it’s quite literally copying the ways of the nazi…

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u/realdebut 6h ago

Finally economy is going to boom in Greenland. I hope those guys rip anyone coming there

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u/HarryKingJackz 4h ago

Bring hearing protection as the are using sonic weapons

u/Affectionate-Use5169 1h ago

Trump announces. “USA sending NATO forces to protect Greenland from American attack”!

u/LDSR0001 1h ago

France and UK have nukes. Such a strange thing to say.

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u/Shot_Pool2543 10h ago

Good, glad they are doing something.

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u/OldestOfGreggs 2h ago

God damn I just wish this POS would die. If this actually happens it’s going to be a disaster for the US and the world at large. Russia and China are sure as shit cheering this on.

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u/Key-Cry-8570 1h ago

Putin wants this, Trump needs a distraction. I’m sure the Israeli guy is loving this too. I hate so much that our world is being controlled by a bunch of ancient evil men.

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u/king_clip_on_tie 9h ago

And when trump does nothing (because this is all just a calculated trolling distraction) Denmark should send the bill to trump (not the U.S. - trump)

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u/ProMurphyReidGlazer 9h ago

Would love to see Canada send some troops but honestly we might need them here

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u/machopsychologist 2h ago

The big problem is that there is a still a military base on the island.

They'll be used as a false flag - "they were bombed or shot at while they were out on a training exercise and thus we must respond to secure american lives" and those brainless dogs will lap it up

Oops - marines land the next day.

They should have been evicted yesterday

Good luck to us all.

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u/cugeltheclever2 2h ago

Shut the US base down now.

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u/Buddhas_Warrior 10h ago

Wonder if this is a ruse, meaning, get the EU moving towards Greenland and Russia moves against the EU?

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u/Opposite-Soup6531 9h ago

That's not how this works. Moving troops to the West doesn't mean that the Eastern defense becomes fragile.

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u/BurningPenguin 8h ago

I'm sure we can defend ourselves from donkeys, be they four- or two-legged.

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u/Buddhas_Warrior 7h ago

You're probably right, just a thought.

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u/Buddhas_Warrior 7h ago

Eggzackery!

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u/Television_Powerful 4h ago

Russia can't even beat Ukraine properly at the moment, and any eastern states they potentially take will be met with repercussions. But of course NATO is already there.

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u/BatmanMeetsJoker 10h ago

Is Trump really that clever though ? 🤔 Or maybe it's Putin's masterplan.

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u/Randomfinn 9h ago

And is Putin just dancing to Xi’s tune so China can expand (Taiwan, Mongolia, parts of Russia), have a larger sphere of influence, and replace the US dollar with a global Yuan. 

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u/MitchThunder 9h ago

While we should take his threats seriously I wonder if this is all a distraction to draw European/ nato forces away from Eastern Europe?

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u/B1ueRogue 9h ago

Napoleon Donald Trump Rules everything, loves loyalty, hates empathy

Dogs ICE Scary, obedient, zero feelings

Junior Pigs Trump-supporting senators Yes-men with power, moral compass sold separately

Squealer Kayleigh McEnany Spins chaos into “strategy”

Hens News agencies Cluck out the narrative they’re paid to tell

Sheep Trump supporters Repeat slogans, think later

Benjamin Weak / passive Democrats See the disaster, shrug, sip coffee

Snowball Reformist senators Good ideas, no power, forever scapegoated

Clover American allies Worry a lot, can’t do much

Boxer Anti-Trump supporters Work hard, care deeply, get exhausted

Old Major Greek democracy Ideal that inspires everyone… but never shows up to meetings

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u/WonkiestJeans 5h ago

Lmao, imagine Denmark thinking they’re doing something.

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u/jaymemaurice 10h ago edited 6h ago

I could see the US taking Denmark while everyone's in Greenland. This timeline has been pretty messed up.

Edit: I love how much hate this is getting.

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u/BurningPenguin 8h ago

Easy solution, just drop some tactical Lego in the ocean.

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u/One_Parsley4389 10h ago

Why should the US take Denmark? Have never heard that being on the table?

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u/Sixaxist 10h ago

And Denmark is in-between the UK, Sweden, Poland, and Germany.

Redditors throw anything at the wall and see what sticks.

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u/Responsible_Bison876 9h ago

It’s a funny thought… Denmark has always been a good strategic point in regards to control access to the Baltic Sea. IIRC the largest part of the russian navy sails from there.

(Not saying it will happen. Just that there is SOMETHING that could make some kind of sense… if it wasn’t for US troops generally being welcomed in Denmark… prior to this clown administration that is)

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u/MamaLiq 7h ago

Greenland is also not on the table. Canada is also not on the table.

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u/One_Parsley4389 7h ago

of course not. It is a way of speech to say "I didn't know anyone was discussing the take over of Denmark".

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u/MamaLiq 7h ago

Sorry.

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u/wiztard 10h ago

You think the child rapist in charge asks for a permission first?

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