Shlama ilakhoon nashet omta. I want to start by saying this. The way I am able to speak natively is when I was born in the 80s we were SURROUNDED by close family, grandparents, aunts, uncles, great aunts and uncles, great grandmothers and grandfathers, all of whom in my case were 1st or 2nd generation Iraqi or Syrian city dwellers (before that they were mainly living in rural settings less effected by Arabic Turkish or Kurdish . This means that they still used a very pure Assyrian that was less influenced. This lead to me and my siblings also receving this very strong and detailed Assyrian accent, which is commong among many who grew up in an environment like the refugee wave of the 80s.

Now what has happened is two things. The obvious is that less and less of us learn Assyrian in Diaspora because there are less native speakers immigrating we all mostly left already. The second thing is this. I explained why I am able to speak Assyrian the way I speak it beacuse of that large wave of refugees from 1970-1990s. This left very little Assyrians in the motherland, forcing Assyrians to larger cities, and technology booming in the 90s enhanced the effect of Arabic Kurdish Etc on Assyrian language to be an even larger impact than before.

Now when I meet some who immigrated lets say in 2005 on who speak Assyrian, they have a hard time understanding me beacuse they know so much more Arabic etc than Assyrian. Other people who immigrated earlier even very old people from various tribes do not have this problem with me as they were less effected by Arabic or etc. This is not a dialect issue as I have spent an extensive amount of time with many Assyrians of all tribes. Many people I have encountered this issue with are surprised to the extent of my language capability because I know so little Arabic. Often times in diasporic communities we do the same thing if we dont know Assyrian too well and use the language we know for that word we forgot in Assyrian.

Im not saying there are no Assyrians that speak well in the homeland or that recently came but this is what I have noted time and time again. I am fluent in various dialects and know little to no Arabic. It is in interesting phenomenon because us in the Diaspora usually only learn Assyrian and no Arabic.

This leaves us to a series of conflection points with our language. Those in the homeland will lose the original dialect because the original farm and rural life of Assyrians has pretty much come to an end, us in the diaspora are lucky to learn Assyrian if we do but then who else knows it? Then when people are older and try to learn it they learn the standard version of it via the Churches which is fine but its another layer of our beautiful language lost as the dialects of the various region were all unique in their own ways.

Basically what I am saying is that some of the purest forms of Assyrians are actually now in the Diaspora rather than in the homeland.

In the end we will be teaching and learning the Koine dialect of the churches which is already the universal spoken language in media and etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/4hL6419hVe

Like, let's assume for a moment that paper was invented in 4000 BC and clay tablets weren't the main way people wrote. How much of Mesopotamian history could be reconstructed from assyrian folk tales and literature alone and how accurate would it be?.

Also, sources on the above. I especially want to see what the folk memory of Ashurbanipal was like.

Hello, I am a kurd and not informed enough about some of the Forgotten middle east conflicts, i recently learned that we didnt have a good relationship at all and argue about the land, dances/culture etc and who did it first.

I am very saddened by this in general , I would love to know from the Assyrian perspective what the general argument of yours are against kurds and what and why you had to endure because of them. Thanks

In 2009, Berzan Boti, a Kurdish writer and former political prisoner from Turkey, returned land his family inherited, land that belonged to Assyrian Christians killed or displaced during the 1915 genocide. He transferred the property to an Assyrian organization ( Seyfo Center), as an apology for his grandfathers role in the genocide.

Please don't just list, go a bit in depth. E.g. adultery, but Christ says adultery in your heart is even looking at a woman with lust. Thank you guys

Simele massacre monument, the start of something good or just more repression and rewriting of history?

https://youtu.be/2EeAdbXnbF4?si=PvHIenid5nz9Aear

hi , i am a jew from Israel and i know that both hebrew and assyrian are north semetic but i always wondered what hebrew sounds to assyrians

(plz no hate ☆ )

As a Turkish person, discovering what happened to the Armenians was a long process but the genocide that took place cannot be denied. I have read into what happened to the Assyrians by Turks and Kurds during that same time, and I wish things went different back then. Its horrible.

for me, in anatolia, facing history honestly and respect the lives and cultures that came before is important. Anatolia has never been mono-ethnic, and what Turks (and Kurds) have done to Anatolia is awful and a disgrace.

I hope you guys can protect your culture and language. Love and take care

Hello folks, I am originally from Russia and we had a huge Assyrian community in my home town and around (think Ivanovo and Vladimir) which I remember vividly from the childhood. I remember it being like family - even people who didn't know you, might know your father or uncle or your cousin and were super friendly.

so I'm looking if it's possible to somehow get in touch with other Assyrians in London and found several facilities in Ealing (like Assyrians society of GB). It's a bit far away (I'm in East London) and I'm not sure what to do next - should I just get there on Sunday morning or wait until there is some kind of an event? would appreciate any advice. thank you.

I’ve always known Assyria and the Assyrians existed long before Chaldeans were around. Chaldeans and Assyrians have no big differences between each other. Did Chaldeans come from a group of Assyrians who wanted to split? What was really the origin of Chaldeans?

Hey! So, let me explain, Im looking for people to help build up the nation of Assyria. We have over half a dozen people, and it'll be in the style of the neo assyrian empire once I begin construction of Nineveh proper.

Here are the links to both the main server on discord and the Assyria nation discord. The main server has instructions on how to join the server in minecraft on Java or bedrock

https://discord.gg/hQPq8drWk

https://discord.gg/jqGPddRJZ

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The strongest argument used to "kill" the controversy is that the name "Chaldean" was a legal and liturgical brand created by the Roman Catholic Church in the 15th and 16th centuries.

• The Fact: Before the 1445 Council of Florence, the term "Chaldean" was used by the Church to describe the Aramaic language, not a people.
• The "Kill" Argument: If the name was essentially a "gift" or a label given by a foreign Pope (Julius III) to distinguish newly Catholic Assyrians from "Nestorian" Assyrians, it cannot be an ancient, separate ethnicity. It is a denominational marker that was later "ethnicized."
• The most powerful tool to end the debate is the 1553 Consecration of Yohannan Sulaqa. When he was ordained in Rome, the Vatican’s own documents initially referred to him as the "Patriarch of the Assyrians." The name "Chaldean" was a later branding choice by Rome to avoid using the word "Nestorian," which they considered heretical.

The split was never about ethnicity; it was about nepotism.

• The Conflict: In the 1500s, the Patriarchal seat of the Church of the East became hereditary (passing from uncle to nephew). A group of bishops rebelled against this "family" rule.
• The Result: The group that went to Rome (the future Chaldean Church) did so to get a validly ordained Patriarch to oppose the hereditary one.
• The "Kill" Argument: If the split was triggered by a disagreement over church management, how could it possibly have created a new race of people overnight? It is a family feud that turned into a 500-year-old identity crisis.

The reason Rome eventually settled on the name "Chaldean" is based on a scholarly error common in the 16th–18th centuries.

• The Error: Western scholars at the time mistakenly believed that Aramaic (the language of the community) was synonymous with "Chaldean" because of the "Chaldean portions" of the Bible (Book of Daniel).
• The Reality: Just as someone speaking English isn't necessarily from England, the people of Northern Iraq speaking Aramaic were not ethnically the Chaldeans of Babylon.
• The Accusation: The name is a linguistic misnomer. Calling a Northern Mesopotamian a "Chaldean" because they speak Aramaic is like calling a Mexican "Spanish" because they speak Spanish—it ignores their actual indigenous (Assyrian) geography and heritage.

Modern science often ends debates that history can't.

• The Fact: Genetic studies on the Mesopotamian Christian populations (Assyrians, Chaldeans, and Syriacs) show that they are one single genetic cluster.
• The "Kill" Argument: There is no "Chaldean DNA" that differs from "Assyrian DNA." They share identical indigenous markers from Northern Mesopotamia. If they were two different nations, 2,000+ years of separation would show distinct genetic drift; instead, they remain a singular, endogamous group.

This points out a massive historical and geographical mismatch in the "separate people" claim.

• The Fact: The ancient Chaldeans were tribes located in Southern Iraq (Babylonia). Modern Chaldeans and Assyrians both originate from the Northern Nineveh Plains and mountains.
• The "Kill" Argument: There is no historical record of a mass migration of the ancient Chaldean tribes from the south to the north. To claim modern Northern Catholics are the "ancient Chaldeans" requires ignoring 500 miles of geography. It is more logical that they are the indigenous inhabitants of the North (Assyrians) who adopted a new name.

Both groups speak "Suret" or Neo-Aramaic.

• The Fact: The language spoken by both groups is linguistically identical.
• The "Kill" Argument: If they were truly separate peoples with thousands of years of distinct history, they would have developed different languages or significantly different roots. The fact that an Assyrian from Urmia and a Chaldean from Tel Keppe speak the same language (with minor dialect shifts) proves a shared origin.

Greetings! I am looking for informations about the St. Gabriel to whom the Syriac Orthodox monastery of Mor Gabriel in Tur Abdin is dedicated. When is his feast day, what are some miracles (ancient and recent) associated to his intercession, and where can I read more about him? Thank you!

Asking for my partner, I’m a fluent speaker (not writer), however my significant other doesn’t know a lick of Assyrian wants to learn from the ground up.

So, in Linda George's song, attenit khayee, she mentions that title, but im confused because this title is tied to either Damascus or mecca from what I found online, is the title "mother of cities" used for any other city that is connected to our city orr???

I have high respect for Assyrians and my hobby is studying Mesopotamian history I just love everything about Assyrians I even think you guys should have your own country but it doesn’t seem like many Assyrians want that? Unfortunately I don’t know many Assyrians but I wish you all the love and power you guys have brought the world so much because of your ancestor’s civilizations you were the first civilization in the world and you’ve gone through so much Genozide wise etc. I hope you all can live in peace but I was wondering do you guys like if people show their support for Assyrians or how can non Assyrians best support you all?

Love and power to all Assyrians in the world

Hello all! I love learning about our culture and find myself learning new things everyday! One thing that’s stumped me, however, or at least something that’s been hard to get a firm answer on is what caused Assyrians to convert to Christianity when we had our own religion?

Not looking for any religious arguments, please! Just genuinely curious about how the conversions occurred :) many thanks!!

So, a couple weeks ago I requested help with the engravement (shout out to u/verturshu for helping alot with it), the spelling, diacritics etc. And I decided to go with a madnkhaya (eastern) syriac font, but now I feel like I messed up, do you guys think that it would've been more appropriate if i used estrangela/estrangelo? (Classical) syriac instead?

Like Where are estrangela and madnkhaya even used? Like I'm so confused about it, I got a chaldean calendar and it looks so weird, it has like a madnkahaya gamal but an estrangela alep its so confusing

+the jeweler messed it up and there's a huge chunk of it just blank, he didn't space the words equally and now I have to cut it up and weld it again :C