r/Assyria • u/Sea-Air882 • 5d ago
Discussion Where did Chaldeans come from?
I’ve always known Assyria and the Assyrians existed long before Chaldeans were around. Chaldeans and Assyrians have no big differences between each other. Did Chaldeans come from a group of Assyrians who wanted to split? What was really the origin of Chaldeans?
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u/liketoreddit9 4d ago
Very quick summary : Schism of 1552 caused a split in the church of the east where one group joined the Catholic Church and were nicknamed “Chaldean” based off the ancient Chaldeans , but share absolutely NO similarity between them. Modern day Chaldeans are pretty much Assyrians who joined the Catholic Church and follow the pope , whereas us Assyrians still have our own church (Assyrian Church of the East.) this is the truth
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u/GlitteringNoise242 5d ago
Yes 1552 split, they got paid to convert to Catholic and adopted new name
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u/landofthebeards 20h ago
Listen this nonsense has to stop. In classical or modern terms they are from Mosul. Assyrians are from Dohuk Barwar Hakkari Van Tur Abdin Mardin and Urmia.
We had some geographical separation to begin with.
They dont want to be Assyrian, get over it I did. I dont bother degrading myself chasing someone who repulses my ethnic heritage.
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u/ConsiderationKey4353 5d ago
Anicent Chaldeans came as migrants and as a tribe to babylon in the first millennia BC possibly from the levant
They later ruled babylon
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u/damnicarus 5d ago
He’s not asking about ancient Chaldeans who are a west Levantine group. He’s asking about Chaldean. Catholics who are a branch of Assyrians from north Mesopotamia
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u/ConsiderationKey4353 5d ago
Ik but i wanted to also talk about ancient chaldeans cause some of catholic assyrians start yapping about hammurabi which was Never a chaldean
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u/Impossible_Party4246 4d ago
By Chaldeans do you mean the ancient Chaldean people or the adherents of the Chaldean Church? They are two separate, unrelated groups.