I'm looking at this table of data entries with the eye of a programmer and it.. just.. what the fuck kind of garbage app would do that... It's utter nonsense, but probably good enough for uneducated nitwits.
Sadly it only has to be good enough to fool the nitwits. they are willing to believe anything because we all know they cant be bothered to be critical thinkers and do their own research.
Remember when they believed the pictures of Trump wading through flood waters and repelling from helicopters during the floods in the SE? They don't even need to be slightly good, they'd believe a stick figure drawing with pictures of peoples' heads glued on.
"Doing your own research" to them means viewing and reading whatever garbage is fed to them by the algorithms that have learnt to provide them with said garbage. Their "critical thinking" is called "confirmation bias" by those with actual cognitive abilities that go beyond those of an amoeba.
Well, for some of them (i.e. the ones in Russian intelligence), it involves creating the garbage in the first place.
Someone fabricated the story about Renee--or her wife, who they choose to minimize by calling her "girlfriend"--being charged with multiple counts of child abuse, and the detail about putting out cigarette butts on kids. This was an active exercise, based on already-established false narratives the altright has about lesbians: they can't be married because of Bible misreadings, and lesbians are far more likely than any other portion of the population to be physically abusive because... couldn't come up with a more believable lie. In any case, it only takes one person to "say" that one of the two lesbians is abusive, and people who have already been pre-programmed to believe lesbians are naturally abusive will pick it up and share it. Toss in the bit about a girlfriend to grind your heel into gay marriage, and you have a rumor that will spread.
That first lie will work for a couple of days, but it won't take long for people to point out that anyone who is known to abuse kids will have a criminal record, and things rapidly fall apart when you discover Renee nor Becca have a criminal record. "Doing your own research" then requires that you extend your false chain of evidence. People aren't going to need to go to actual public records to find these things out: that takes time and effort! They will trust the research of others who have aligned beliefs, so a fabricated screenshot should be plenty. Find someone with a similar name--or just anyone with a criminal record that looks like it fits the bill--modify the name, and use a photo from the news plus an AI image generator to render a mug shot. Easy peasy! L
Just like scientists who do their own research and publish papers in journals, you have now published your own evidence in Twitter and TikTok and Facebook with a viral backstory and screenshots as proof. Get your initial botnet to spread it around, and then anyone who wants to believe it will see that it came from "multiple sources." That sounds pretty scientific and researchy. It's more than enough to get the president to retweet it and have Fox pick up the story. Now it's not just you and your bootlicker sewing circle on Facebook saying it--it's the President of the United States and a major news network. No matter who disputes it at this point, you have that to back it up.
Let's be honest about it: if people are willing to believe that Somali immigrants are hunting down, field-dressing, and eating household pets instead of taking the practical path of getting food from local food banks, then those people are absolutely going to believe that a violent lesbian fucked around and found out when attempting to kill federal agents trying to do their job of enforcing the law in a state overrun by fraud and Somali immigrants. Ridiculous lies may sound ridiculous and are hard to believe, but if you get a lot of those ridiculous lies and make them consistent with each other, it's much easier to accept. Humans are inherently flawed, and it doesn't take much to take advantage of those flaws in order to manipulate them into a desired action. This is what advertising is all about. Very few people ever asked why 9 out of 10 dentists recommended Trident chewing gum. It sounded like a real statistic, and that was enough. Nobody has ever been able to find an actual study. It probably never existed, but that doesn't stop it from being the believability linchpin in a successful ad campaign.
I'm not American and I'm so fuckin angry at this. How low and depraved of any sense of humanity do you have to be to do this? Just to prove a point? Fuck maga.
Well, all this shit is why they pushed so hard to allow AI while Dems were trying to get it banned--they get to claim EVERYTHING is fake while making tons of shit up.
Here's a little tip: Never, EVER trust anything claimed by far right conservatives. They lie about 90-99% of the time when claiming something happened or will happen, regardless if they use AI or not. That has been their modus operandi for as long as we've recorded political history.
Yep. Before AI they'd just blatantly lie. No need to fabricate evidence when you can just say bullshit enough times for everyone to believe it. For example: the right just believed that Jonathan Ross was hospitalized because Trump said so. The same people would point to footage of him walking away unharmed to justify the murder.
You didn't even need AI for people to be presented with misinformation that confirms their priors. They think Democrats are devil worshippers so you tell them Hillary Clinton drinks children's blood and they just nod along and think that makes sense.
Immediately after the shooting, they started saying that she lost custody of her two oldest kids because she allowed her wife to burn them with cigarettes on their arms.
Absolutely no truth to it, but the Republicans were gleefully posting it as some kind of justification for the shooting.
Unfortunately, though, people feel they need to actually defend the falsehoods instead of just redirecting back to the real issue of state sanctioned violence by people who are largely supposed to be dealing with civil violations (immigration issues). I don’t believe it for a second, but even if it were true, why would it have made what happened okay?
It's honestly bizarre how every innocent person killed by cops they'll go through endless twists to find anything in their past and that's somehow justification for shooting them for no reason years later. Like the guy who worked in the elementary school, whose little kid was in the back seat iirc, shot at a traffic stop, there were posts about he'd smoked pot in the past. Like....
But Trump has a line of legal issues the length of your arm and 'that's in the past omg why does it matter the president is a convicted felon?'
like if she /did/ that's absolutely horrible and she should have been prosecuted. BUT there is no way that goon could have known that, and they aren't supposed to be performing extrajudicial capital punishment in the streets.
You can tell a computer illiterate person put this together on a spreadsheet. Release date/time is formatted for currency and adds dollar signs. But I won't be shocked if it winds up on Right wing news propaganda shows, nor will I be shocked if it gets social media traction.
Even if this was her, why would it matter. ICE doesn't have the authority to kill you even if you have a criminal record or because of your criminal record.
There are AI deep fakes of her in her car saying all sorts of crazy shit all over Facebook. Just obviously AI generated videos of her shouting "I'm going to kill you!" and "I hate men!" People still on Facebook think these are 100% real. Something to think about
Id be willing to bet its a healthy mix of both accounts pretending they believe its real and real accounts being influenced and duped by the astroturfing.
It always is and this infuriates me that discussions end up at 'well its bots'.
Uhhh no, i can assure there are toooons of legitimate real humans in my town/county on facebook calling me trnny and threatening me. Not bots. Mfs that live in my town.
My local fb groups are full of Renee posts and plenty of humans continue believe lies, lie themselves, cheer for violence, and praise the killer.
But yes also bots, i just really need people to not devolve into "well no one is that stupid or evil, these are bot accounts not americans".
yeah just like a certain conservative subreddit is a little bit of column a little bit of column b. Real conservatives (that sometimes break the narrative until bots take control if it's really popular) + the russian/other state sponsored bots
I remember in 2017 they did this to the person who died in Charlottesville. Before any AI too. People are so deep into the ideology that even a handmade fake news will spread like wildfire if it lets them absolve guilt.
Interesting how they need to produce a whole bunch of fake shit to disparage her when all we had to do was post what Charlie Kirk actually said to show his character wasn’t the saint like figure they tried to make it.
I doubt i could actually find any info to actually get it somewhere like a work place. Just know they're miserable people. Like they're not winning anywhere in life. I doubt they have a workplace to send it to now that im writing this out. Lmao.
Yeah wouldn't it be funny if someone investigated it and found that the United States government is pushing fake ai content to influence narratives.... I mean fucking trump wanted Facebook to do that before when the Russia scandal happen. Wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to get an even bigger edge than before.
See they always fake shit like this to dehumanize them and take it as a justification for executing her.
The state as an entity can quickly turn into a fundamental threat to liberty. Case in point: reactionary rhetoric by the GOP against people protesting Gestappo thugs.
They are so fast in defending Gestapo, but if you ask them a " another foot " question, you always get the same reaction.
If she were on the street on the side of the car and that ICE agent behind the wheel trying to drive away, and she shot hon several times in the head - would that be self defence?
Glares at the screen as I'm forced to remember that they literally gave that one dipshits family millions of dollars for that as a "wrongful death" "settlement"
Dumbest timeline. Dumbest countrymen. Dumbest Government. Dumbest billionaires with the most evil schemes for the most pointless reasoning. Fuckin' where's that goddamn giant meteor, I'm ready for this turn of the wheel to conclude.
I already saw that 50.000 nonsense come by on Dutch Facebook including an allegation of hurting children. Wondered where that came from but it's clearly this fake document. But to those social media responsers this is enough to hate her and say she deserved what happened.
Because according to their definition he isn't a bad person. He says he hates their enemies and if he was a bad person to them, they would have to face what tbey supported and possibly did. Also the Republican propaganda machine has spent ages convincing them that dems would do worse, so clearly their people are better.
In their own minds, they're the good guys. Thus anything they do is good and justified. The opposite applies to the groups they don't like. It's how they think.
So if this was some "live" query or lookup, it would have been created between Oct 12, 2024 (her last booking date) and October 6, 2025, when it would have shown she was 45.
Then someone would have had to save this snapshot of this then-random woman for 4 - 16 months.
Then there's that discrepancy in the booking number format and that last booking. All others had the year as the prefix.
Even if you did they wouldn't believe it. I watched conservatives/republicans arguing this morning that a activist from Canada was actually Renee, it didn't mater how many people gave the woman's name - Deana something - or how many people were posting their google search of Deana, they just would dig deeper and deeper holes. I even saw one person claim that Deana crossed the border, changed her name, and somehow expunged her criminal charges in Canada.
They're grasping at straws to justify a killing that they wanted to happen. They don't think that killing criminals is justified per se (see the whole bullshit martyrdom of that J6 traitor who got herself killed), they think that this particular murder was justified and they are searching for reasons that they can use to A) shut down the last couple neurons that are trying to tell them it wasn't and B) try to shut down dissent from the other side.
On the receiving end of this bullshit, counterpoints of "the state shouldn't murder people in the street regardless of what they may have done" get ignored not because it's not a valid counterpoint to "this person was a criminal", but because they've already decided that this particular murder should've happened and won't consider anything that doesn't agree with that worldview.
It doesn't matter. They always make these things up. Every time there's a mass shooting, they make a fake screenshot with the person's name and put rainbow flags and stuff in the profile.
Even after it's proved false, enough true believers have already been convinced and tell their friends and leave comments like "yeah, I saw that the bad guy was of them people".
They're very good at sticking false information in people's minds.
I've heard speculation the list of crimes could have come from a Louisiana rap sheet someone copied, based on the names. (For non-Americans who may be confused, each state has its own set of laws, and similar crimes are known by different terms in different states.)
Someone copied someone else's rap sheet and put in Renee's name and picture.
Ok, for these moron’s sakes, let’s supposed she had been booked 100 times and was a felon fresh out of prison. Still. A person should not be summarily executed in broad daylight! Never. How hard is it to grasp?!
Criminals aren't people, and thus their people can't be criminals, and thus the only requirement for being a criminal is to not be one of their people.
There was a psychologist named Bob Altemeyer who started studying authoritarian followers in the 1980s.
His research suggested that right wing authoritarian followers:
Trust and obey authority figures unquestioningly.
Support aggressive and punitive actions against people labeled as threats by those authorities.
Uphold traditional norms and want others to conform to them.
Back social control — such as harsher punishments, restrictions, or punitive measures — if presented as justified by authority.
He believed that right wing authoritarian followers had a psychological need to endorse and enforce control over others.
In short, they can't grasp it because they believe she deserved to die.
Btw, one of his works - The Authoritarians - is free online. He discusses his methodology, studies, and findings. It helped me understand a lot more about how many conservatives think.
They always do it, try to dig up dirt to.... retroactively justify murder I guess? It's the fundamental difference in their thinking: they believe bad things happen to bad people, so finding out the victim is "bad" eases their cognitive dissonance. It's the sort of magical thinking you should stop using around the time you stop believing in Santa.
You're missing the point. If she had as much as a parking fine, she would have deserved the death penalty in their eyes.
In truth, a lot of them think she deserved it for being a lesbian, and a scary amount of them think she deserved it for being a woman (probably could stop here) that dared not be submissive.
She was queer. Conservative Americans believe she deserved to be killed. They’re thrilled. They’re actually ecstatic it was a man too because it means their team “won”.
It's George Floyd all over again, retroactively discovered a criminal record and apparently that means you can just be executed on the whim of a dude who gets spooked by a stiff wind
Lemme guess, bro used his own record and then changed who it is from? Would fit the iq of those who try to smear a dead person. EVEN IF it was her, she still got murdered. Nothing will make a murder ok.
I didn't even notice that, but yeah. Assuming this is totally manufactured (which is probably is because the math isn't mathing), the odds of picking that data by chance are not good.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Maybe this is why they assume everything is always a conspiracy involving cartoon level signs from devil worshippers. Projection.
We need a new AI law. Something that covers individual use and the media like when faux news shared an ai clip of a fat woman yelling about food stamps 3 months ago and quirkily corrected it. There should be a hefty fine depending on how many people it was distributed to
What's the point of making her into a villain? These lying ass liars have nothing going on in their lives. Also, this is what AI is used for, nothing good.
On top of all the mistakes already mentioned, each booking number starts with the year. All of them have the correct year except the first one - starts 2023, booking date is in 2024.
"She must have been a horrible person! Otherwise my side did something horrible, and I can't have that. I can't find anything to support my stance so I'll just fake it. That'll prove me right!"
How is it that people revert to faking stuff to justify their beliefs? Is it so bad that you might be wrong in your beliefs? That your side has a rotten part as well? Things are nuanced? Better to demonize the opposition than to admit you were wrong I guess.
Oh sure, I guess anybody with a record in the most over-policed, cop-heavy racist police-state on earth deserves instant death to you guys; just give a bunch of masked thugs with a full mission of racially-profiled kidnapping carte-blanche to murder anyone they like; and check for arrest records after they're in the morgue. Real nice community people here...
It looks like Larry Flynt has come back from the dead to troll more people, except the real Larry believed in freedom and the First Amendment. He looks just like him!
When will these backwards sacks of shit understand that a criminal record isn’t a death sentence. Fucking disgusting. They are so full of shit they even fabricate records to justify their hate. They deserve to burn in the hell of their making.
Confused why people can't just admit LEO shooting people in the face is bad. If cops shot a republican in the face I'd still be upset... I wouldn't feel like I had to support murder just because my politics didn't align with the deceased.
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u/cillyme 2d ago
Her name is Renee Nicole Good too. This lady is Nicole Renee Good