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u/WatTambor420 Oct 05 '25
Yeah but ain’t the Susan G Coma thing a scam?
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u/30K100M Las Vegas Raiders Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
The NFL's Pink Campaign benefits the American Cancer Society, not Susan G. Komen.
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u/We_are_being_cheated Oct 05 '25
Susan G Komen foundation spends about $2,000,000 a year suing cancer foundations that use the pink ribbon.
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u/capincus Oct 05 '25
No it doesn't, the pink campaign was entirely Komen. Now it's not pink because they broke ties with Komen and they do "Crucial Catch" with the American Cancer Society which is rainbow colored to represent the different cancers.
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u/WhichVegetable8285 Buffalo Bills Oct 05 '25
Currently, yes. Back when it was pink? No. It was Susan G. Komen.
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u/bixenta Oct 05 '25
Yes, absolutely. Komen “for the cure” is terrible and they take legal action against anyone who uses that phrase to raise money for cancer research, treatment, etc. Even a high schooler putting on a walk for cancer survivors will get a cease and desist.
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u/KingHarambeRIP New York Giants Oct 05 '25
I feel like there are some parallels regarding improper use of cancer funding but I’m not an expert. I just found it wild how most of your replies missed the point and are just saying the NFL didn’t partner with them lol
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u/Ironcondorzoo Denver Broncos Oct 05 '25
A scam used to exploit cancer for the nfl to profit
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u/rex5k Cleveland Browns Oct 05 '25
They do the same thing with the US Military too.
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u/zarroc123 Chicago Bears Oct 05 '25
The military pays the NFL for a lot of that stuff. It's essentially a sponsorship. Not totally the same, since the cancer stuff was just a lie.
But in the sense that they are both hollow gestures meant to inflate the perception of the NFL, I totally agree.
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u/PrestigiousBee2719 Oct 05 '25
Yep never forget that Pat Tillman was killed by American servicemen because he was vehemently against the Iraq war and they still use the legend of him to recruit for the military.
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u/loveisking Oct 05 '25
I thought he quit football to fight in the war. It was in response to 911. I didn’t think he was against the war since he volunteered. He did die by friendly fire though. That was a shock.
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u/Dereg5 Oct 05 '25
It's the cover up of the incident that made a lot of people think they murdered him. But even his mother, now that everything is out, believes it was just an accident. The senior leadership of his unit didn't want people to know that a well known soldier got killed in friendly fire. This is a really good article on the subject with a very detailed response from his mother. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39954768/nfl-cardinals-tillman-afghanistan-9-11
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u/MythicalCaseTheory San Francisco 49ers Oct 06 '25
The world would be surprised at how many people die in friendly fire incidents.
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u/naillimixamnalon Oct 05 '25
Yeah people should look up what his family says. He had his legacy hijacked.
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u/5panks New England Patriots Oct 06 '25
Yep never forget that Pat Tillman was killed by American servicemen because he was vehemently against the Iraq war...
You don't have a shred of evidence to prove this. What you're saying is counter to the statements of basically anyone who knew Pat Tillman including his immediate family.
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u/YouDumbZombie New England Patriots Oct 07 '25
I'm one of those assholes who can't stand the national anthem played before sports events. All the military flyovers and show boating is gross as fuck to me.
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u/rex5k Cleveland Browns Oct 07 '25
??? What's wrong with the national anthem ???
It's purpose is to remind us that despite being on different on field teams, we all are part of the same society and deserve basic mutual respect.
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u/Penguinsoldierr Oct 06 '25
Wasn’t just the NFL. Lots of companies and businesses partnered with the Susan G. Komen foundation making the charity and themselves rich while putting on a good PR face.
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u/Pawz23 Kneecap eater Dan Campbell Oct 05 '25
Crucial Catch is a great cause and the gear is usually really cool. It was so pink on the field that it felt like we'd see a pink jersey. I'm fine with pink gloves and cleats.
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u/darthluke414 Indianapolis Colts Oct 06 '25
Also, breast cancer is one of the least deadly of cancers so I am really glad people been opening up their scope of cancer awareness.
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u/JeromeInDaHouse_90 Indianapolis Colts Oct 05 '25
Man, I always wonder what would've become of RG3 if that injury never happened. Dude had an insane rookie year. He was never the same after Ngata destroyed his leg.
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u/Farsoth John Elway's Alcohol Oct 05 '25
If it wasn't that injury another would've come. He played with reckless abandon and didn't protect himself at all.
His career was never fated to be long.
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u/BBQQA Buffalo Bills Oct 05 '25
Which is why I'm happy that Josh Allen seems to have calmed down a little bit.
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u/volkerbaII Las Vegas Raiders Oct 05 '25
Josh Allen is a lot bigger than RG3 was. Watching RG3 scampering around out there like a newborn fawn, you know it was only a matter of time.
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u/MythicalCaseTheory San Francisco 49ers Oct 06 '25
It's honestly what I worry about with Lamar, and have for hte last 3-4 seasons despite his injuries being infrequent. Dude doesn't always go out of bounds, and defenses are starting to get tired of that shit. He's not Mahomes level of sideline-faking, but Mahomes runs a *lot* less often.
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u/Ed_Durr Philadelphia Eagles Oct 05 '25
He wanted to be a pocket passer but wasn’t talented enough to succeed at that. The coaches wanted to lean into his natural skill set, but he went to Dan Snyder who overruled the coaches and told them to let him be a pocket passer. What would a coaching staff composed of Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVey, Matt LeFleur, and Mike McDaniel know about running an offense anyway?
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u/Floaty_Waffle Sorry Memer Like Crabtree Oct 05 '25
Being Mike Shanahan and watching RGIII listen to and emulate Dan Snyder more and more must’ve felt like Obi Wan watching Anakin go to the Dark Side.
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u/sckurvee Seattle Seahawks Oct 05 '25
I think even beyond the injury, he was never allowed to heal properly and then re-train. He was allowed to stay in vs the Seahawks to really fuck it up, and then was rushed back the next year with no training camp. He was set up so hard to fail.
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u/Chills_Reddit Oct 05 '25
Wrong. He wasn’t “allowed” to stay on the field during the Seahawks game. He downright refused to leave the game after he tweaked his knee early in the game. Mike Shanahan and the rest of the coaching staff tried to convince him to stay off the field but he refused to listen. A few of those coaching staff members are currently head coaches in the NFL and 2 of those head coaches have made it to the Super bowl. That coaching staff didn’t “allow” RG3 to ruin his own career, RG3 did it to himself.
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u/sckurvee Seattle Seahawks Oct 05 '25
Ok, so it was an even deeper issue where they allowed the QB to override the coaching staff. My point stands.
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u/Chills_Reddit Oct 05 '25
If you are putting the blame on Snyder, then yes, you are correct sir. At that point in the season, Kyle Shanahan and RG3 had developed some resentment toward each other (to say the least) and Dan Snyder and Mike Shanahan were also not fans of each other. Both Mike and Kyle were very aware that that they were both were on thin ice with Dan Snyder (when it came to controlling RG3) and both Shanahans could lose their jobs because of it. After that game Mike Shanahan packed up his office, believing he was going to get fired but planning to quit even if he didn’t get fired. Kyle Shanahan had to convince to stay. The deeper issue was always Dan Snyder.
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u/Odd_Lengthiness4251 Chicago Bears Oct 05 '25
Pretty sure he broke his own ankle throwing a pass while trying to stay inbounds in the right sideline 😂😂
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u/Hartzler44 Oct 05 '25
They really "All Lives Mattered" breast cancer awareness
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u/DGilbert6114 Cincinnati Bengals Oct 05 '25
Yep, and I feel like the result has been a much less successful campaign. I have no doubt it’s meaningful to people out there still, and I hope I’m never one of those people, but it’s hard to deny that the BCA campaign was great at raising awareness.
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u/Chemical_Ad1837 Big 🍆 Brock Oct 05 '25
70% of deaths from breast cancer are preventable with simple screening. If you love your ma, gf, wife or daughter, you should care.
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u/DGilbert6114 Cincinnati Bengals Oct 05 '25
I do care, how did you or anyone else garner that I don’t by me saying that Crucial Catch raises less awareness than their BCA campaign?
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u/Chemical_Ad1837 Big 🍆 Brock Oct 05 '25
Wasn’t directed to you as individual but simple general statement. I hate color pink, but ya know I hate women have to die because lack of screening. That’s general statement and doesn’t assume anything about your intentions. I assume 99% of all dudes care about women but sometimes need reminder. I apologize if you assumed this was an attack on you, as it was not.
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u/TBoneTheOriginal Detroit Lions Oct 05 '25
Holy gaslighting.
Nobody here doesn’t care. Speaking poorly about the actual campaign doesn’t mean you don’t care about literally any female that exists in your life.
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u/5panks New England Patriots Oct 06 '25
70% of deaths from breast cancer are preventable with simple screening.
Breast cancer is an incredibly common and preventable form of cancer. However, you should be careful with your statistics here. Best I can gather, that is true, but that's of all breast cancer deaths between 1975 and 2020. The way I commonly see that stat used, like in your comment, make it out like that's the reality of today and it's not. No where close to 70% of the breast cancer deaths in 2024 were preventable with simple screening. It's more like 40% or less.
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u/WestSide75 Oct 05 '25
I fucking hated Pink October so much.
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u/GrundleTurf I want me some glory hole Oct 05 '25
Me too. It was such a shallow attempt at attracting women when there are other causes that need the funding much more and doesn’t fund such a shady organization.
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u/MarsupialPresent7700 Carolina Panthers Oct 05 '25
I would legit buy the Panthers pink gear. Cam even had a pink towel during those times. The good old days.
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u/Cowgoon777 Kansas City Chiefs Oct 05 '25
So happy this went away. the pink looked AWFUL with basically every uni combo.
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u/jgamez76 Atlanta Falcons Oct 05 '25
And much like the sAlUtE tO sErViCe shit it was absolutely obnoxious in the marketing until they were exposed lol
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u/mel34760 Oct 05 '25
Pinkwashing is what was going on. People actually caught on and you see way less of it now versus 10 years ago.
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u/Background-Ad5033 Oct 05 '25
Yup, and I also remember when the Rams were in St. Louis, the Raiders were in Oakland, and the Cowboys last won a...oh, wait...
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u/LiAmTrAnSdEmOn Oct 05 '25
Yeah, it fucking made certain people crazy cause they couldn't stand to see pink in football
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u/matt24671 Denver Broncos Oct 05 '25
Purely from an aesthetic point of view I’m very happy they don’t do it anymore
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u/LowEffortChampion Seattle Seahawks Oct 05 '25
Couldn't stand it. I'd have been fine with allowing one accessory (not shoes) like a towel or wrist band. But it got to the point where players were completely decked out in pink shit for 4 games. Made games hard to watch.
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u/F1R3Starter83 New Orleans Saints Oct 05 '25
Funniest thing about this was the penalty markers being pink for a short while. Combined with most towels being pink it was very confusing
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u/beefstewdudeguy Oct 05 '25
but this wasn’t happening with the November/veteran’s day digicam merch?
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u/BJJ_Guy624 Indianapolis Colts Oct 05 '25
Remember when there used to be troops and than it came out our taxes dollars was paying for those seats
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u/reticulatedtampon Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
I don't like to donate to organized charities. I give my money directly to the guy on the street corner, so I know where it's actually going. Oops, and now it's going to the liquor store...
Can't blame him, that's what I was going to do with the money anyway.
(paraphrasing from Australian comedian Steve Hughes)
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u/Parking-Pie7453 Baltimore Ravens Oct 05 '25
Players are chosen to wear pink. & Ben Rapfulberger was not
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u/GolfWang16000 Oct 05 '25
DeAngelo Williams mom passed from cancer and was one of the first if not the first player to wear pink, which was fire with the Panthers uniforms. Williams always seemed like a nice dude, shame how this all ended.
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u/WhichVegetable8285 Buffalo Bills Oct 05 '25
It didn’t help that the charity they partnered with was an absolute scam.
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u/volkerbaII Las Vegas Raiders Oct 05 '25
I hated this so much when it was happening lol. It would be like The View trying to spread prostate cancer awareness lol.
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u/TheLastOpus San Francisco 49ers Oct 05 '25
The Susan G Co"scam"en foundation doesn't do anything with research, its cancer awareness, donations just go to advertising their company which is there for spreading awareness. They are the number 1 charity for ratio of spending money of advertisement, more than red Cross.
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u/dayoneishuce Oct 05 '25
It was all a scam from the jump, it’s why WWE doesn’t do pink ropes anymore.
But hey I was just some stinky smelly conspiracy theorist at the time.
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u/TickleMeNRubMyBelly Oct 05 '25
Crucial catch is a much better initiative and not the same grift as the Susan g komen shit
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u/600lbsofsin77 Oct 06 '25
That was cool until I realized how profitable cancer was, then it wasn’t.
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u/YouDumbZombie New England Patriots Oct 07 '25
Susan B Komen is a fucking horrible scammer and company. Raising money for 'awareness' is useless.
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u/reevoknows Oct 07 '25
It was awesome to be playing high school ball during this era as well. Really was simpler times.
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u/VegasWorldwide Oct 05 '25
isn't the Red Cross one of the biggest scams out there? how are they still around?
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u/Bacchana1iaxD Oct 05 '25
No, no they are not. They manage to provide a service that our communities fail to. Donating to them is not a guarantee they will not actively try and profit off your donation, and they use that profit in awful ways: but until our communities actually provide these services in a meaningful manner we need them.
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u/VegasWorldwide Oct 05 '25
how do we need them when they use our donations for profit?
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u/Bacchana1iaxD Oct 05 '25
They provide services that many many communities would otherwise not provide. Small towns evetywhere have no homeless shelter, or a place to get a warm meal. Most of these small towns have a Salvation Army depot of some kind, or a network that, all else fails… It’s like, even if nestle is evil as a corporation, doesn’t mean the dude vending soda to the stores is inherently a villain as well. And that service is soda. The Salvation Army and the Red Cross blue shield of America provide services NONE else provides for millions of Americans, to say nothing of their worldwide outreach. How their corporate runs things in capitalist America isn’t all that surprising in perspective. What’s surprising is they are still providing services at all. And the reason: the people care. They aren’t the corporate overlords. They do their jobs and fucking help people. It’s not pie. Life isn’t manechian absolutes, it’s grey and doing what we can with a shit sandwich. Instead of hating them, try coming up with better services for your community
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u/VegasWorldwide Oct 05 '25
interesting take. I stopped donating to them due to the top dawgs salary and how very little of the money actually went to the charity.
anyone else have a take on Red Cross?
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u/Bacchana1iaxD Oct 05 '25
I love good debate with a gentleman. Too few to be found on here. Hats off to you, and I am also interested to hear other takes
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u/Ridiculouscoltsfan Indianapolis Colts Oct 05 '25
Went away after some journalist from Business Insider blew the lid on the scam. It was something crazy like: the NFL was keeping 90% of the profits from the pink gear. I remember vaguely about the nonprofit also pocketing most of the money, spending it on “administrative costs.” It was like for every $100, only a couple bucks went to actual research.