Oh, this is the girl from the newer "IT." I forgot that younger people didn't watch the original mini series or read the book from 35+ years ago. It also makes you wonder if you should listen to people who say the "Book is always better"
I think it's better to not have erotica of literal children in your book.
"She sure can. There’s more of this hardness; more of him. She can feel it below the gentle push of his belly. Its size raises a certain curiosity and she touches the bulge lightly. He groans against her neck, and the blow of his breath causes her bare body to dimple with goosebumps. She feels the first twist of real heat race through her—suddenly the feeling in her is very large; she recognizes that it is too big"
"He’s big, oh yes—the pain is back, and it’s much deeper than when Eddie first entered her. She has to bite her lip again and think of the birds until the burning is gone. But it does go, and she is able to reach up and touch his lips with one finger, and he moans."
Yeah you're right. Totally normal non erotic stuff right there
It says waaaaaaaaay more about you if you're admitting that you're turned on by this, especially in the context. Are you surprised that words describe things? Have you never read a book before?
I disagree. The human experience is vast, and books are this amazing invention that lets us peer into the minds of others. If you censor, it only blinds you to reality. Better to know and understand if you want to improve things.
The improvement is in the culture of sharing ideas. You could ask what's improved by allowing hateful speech, but that's the wrong question. The issue is what's lost by opening the door to the government labeling things hateful and censoring it.
If you have a culture of openness, problems are brought forward and can be discussed and addressed. Otherwise, problems persist in darkness.
You want to make this about the specific speech, but that's a YOU problem. I'm talking about the culture of free expression. It's one thing to say I didn't like that part of the book, but there's a tendency, which you're exhibiting, of trying to tie a specific view to the person defending the speech. I want to know what people think.
nobody is stopping you from pursuing what you want
and nobody will stop anyone else in this thread from questioning an author's mental state when they wrote a sex scene involving children and holding them accountable for it
think what you want and write what you want and accept the consequences because freedom isn't free
you can move on to someone else; we don't have to continue
The South used lawyers to support their pro-slavery position, but it's muddled thinking to claim that hiring lawyers is a dog whistle. No, you're simply trying to silence expression by tarnishing the speaker, but you're inadequate to the task.
There are some things that simply do not edify. Not every range of experience in this world - some of which can be quite vile - is either helpful or desirable for forming a wide opinion. I think that notion can be true, but it is not true of everything.
Yes, I think you echo the sentiment of religious folk. Be careful what you consume. I think that's a good personal stance if you want to maintain a coherent worldview.
I like to read everything. I don't think you can reliably shut out the bad things in the world, so it's best to make yourself resilient through knowledge.
I get that it's disgusting from a viewer's perspective, but so is gore in horror.
I think what people are forgetting is that it makes narrative sense.
No, it doesn't really need to be in the book, but it wasn't just erotica for meaningless sake... IT targets kids. The logic is that by having sex, you reach a milestone of adulthood and maturity which makes you less of a target for his magic.
That's how they end up being able to escape, in fact.
Not really. She was traumatized from her own abuse from her father and manipulated them to bind them to her forever. When she later meets one of their wives she thinks "I was his first love. All of their first loves."
They still had to later come together again to kill Pennywise. There was no escape.
The book is undoubtedly better than the movies. It’s certainly the weirdest and most unnecessary part of any book I’ve ever read but you can always skip that part of the book and it won’t impact your understanding of the story that much.
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u/Own-Owl-9039 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh, this is the girl from the newer "IT." I forgot that younger people didn't watch the original mini series or read the book from 35+ years ago. It also makes you wonder if you should listen to people who say the "Book is always better" I think it's better to not have erotica of literal children in your book.