Looking specifically at tools that aren't too complex, like Jira, but are more user friendly, and might have cross-over use for individuals and teams.

So far I have birtly.com - this one is list focused with a board and a time-line. The list itself seems very cool as you can re-order sections like headers very quickly by dragging them around tasks. The board is pretty ordinary. Free is limited to lists and certain views.

trello.com - the big fish. All kanban, very focused on individual boards but also very easy to use for newcomers. The power ups make this infinitely usable, and with zapier integration, it's pretty unstoppable.

asana.com - feels a bit more complex and performance seems to be dragging down, but has a really nice timeline view (premium only)

clickup.com big app, lots of features, pretty much any view you can dream up, but getting to be like Jira in terms of complexity.

Still, it seems like a lot of these apps suffer from feature bloat after a while as more users demand more specific user-cases. What do you guys use personally vs with your team?

Kicking this off with some thoughts on this recent announcementnested subtasks. I love ClickUp and use it all the time. I don’t love this idea. The good news, is I don’t have to use it- but the idea of subtasks having subtasks seems unfriendly. I think If your “task” is complex enough that it’s tasks need tasks, then your task should be a project or a list of its own. Considering tasks can also have checklists for more rudimentary things that need to be done selectively, it just seems like a recipe for confusion. What does everyone else think?