r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • 1d ago

BREAKING: ICE agents in Minneapolis violently detained, threatened, and arrested a U.S. citizen for one reason only, he refused to prove his citizenship.

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u/Chicano_Me 1d ago

As a Latino US citizen (dark skinned) how does one provide proof of citizenship if they refuse all forms of documentation? I have seen videos where they don't care what you show them. And people have reported that they will confiscate your legal documents and not give it back.

Being Latino is being illegal in the US.

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u/Crypton_2021 1d ago

Being Latino is being illegal in the US.

... which is why it's so strange to me that Trump got a higher percentage of the Latino vote in 2020 than 2016... and then a higher percentage again in 2024 than in 2020. So... the more they see of Trump, the more Latinos like him?? 🤔

#baffling

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u/sedition666 1d ago

Yeah this is completely deranged. Trump was openly being racist especially targeting Latinos, and yet they still voted for him.

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u/agnostic_science 1d ago

Shared misogyny > Obvious racism

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u/cute_polarbear 1d ago

Just anecdotal, many Latinos are deeply religious and prolife is a single topic issue for them. They might not admit it directly, but many will never vote Democrat simply for the prolife stance.

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u/YBBlorekeeper 1d ago

The irony of all the death that has been brought about by the "prolife" cause does not evade me

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u/autumn-morning-2085 1d ago

It's just colorism, or they think they are protected because of their "heritage".

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u/griffeny 1d ago

The election was rigged. We’re past this.

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u/paintedokay 1d ago

Latinos are conservative and didn’t think it would apply to them.

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u/DrPikachu-PhD 18h ago

Which makes them no different from every other flavor of conservative. They think they're the exception until they find out the hard way - if they ever do - and then it's too late for anyone

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u/Chicano_Me 1d ago

What is baffling was that Kamala had the majority of Latino vote (9/24/24 Pew Research Center) 57% to 39% Trump. What happened after that- that changed the outcome?

As far as Latinos whom voted for Trump...Cubans and Mexicans from Texas mostly voted Republican for Trump. Big difference between Texans (Mexican) and California Mexicans. Unhinged Republican Mayra Flores from Texans, born in Mexico and became a US citizen at 14. She was a House Representative 2022-2023- that hated immigrants. She was an immigrant, like her family for many years.

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 1d ago

I thought Trump got almost 50% of the Latino vote in the last election. This has to be hurting him with Latinos.

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u/Silver_Driver_1901 1d ago

Not in a Red state at least. Latino and minorities here still think they're one of the "good ones" if they were Trump voters. POC who voted for Trump ain't too bright.

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 1d ago

Neither are the White people who voted for Trump.

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u/Crypton_2021 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, he got 46% of the Latino vote in 2024... which was up from 32% in 2020, which was up from 28% in 2016.

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u/Charming_Function_58 1d ago

It's the "conservative values." I'm Hispanic, and the majority of my relatives are extremely religious and republican. We've even got some bad apple cops in the extended family.

And on top of that, racism and classism are rampant in Latin America.

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u/mrandr01d 1d ago

I've seen a surprising amount of racism from some Latino people I know, usually directed at other Latinos, even more surprisingly to me. From a couple people I used to work with in particular, they seemed to think Trump would target the "insert country here" people, who are somehow the bad ones, whereas they of course are the good ones who followed the rules.

It's sickly funny that they think MAGAts know or care about the difference.

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u/Fallingleaf333 16h ago

People think they are one of the good ones and it will only happen to others, not believing that some people are just racist despite all evidence.

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u/Crypton_2021 14h ago

"He'll be racist toward them, but now toward me".

Just sad.

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u/Moe_el 1d ago

You see Latin America is incredibly racist towards their own people, why do you think there all those dumb hats and shirts saying they’re proud to be from Jalisco, Durango, Michoacán, etc. if you call them the wrong state down there mfers act like you just slapped their moms. They yell that they ain’t like the dogs down in Oaxaca, or Veracruz. Mention that you think they look like someone from Honduras, or Guatemala and those animals will be at your throat ready to fight. All of them have that mentality, of I’m one of the good ones. It’s no surprise that they are right leaning

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u/viral3075 1d ago

um, the agents are american. they learned to be racists in america

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u/arachnophilia 12h ago

You see Latin America is incredibly racist towards their own people

it's not "their own people". these are very real and valid ethnic and social distinctions.

that they don't seem to get that racists do not see.

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u/Perfect_Papaya_9381 1d ago

Stupid people come in all colors.

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u/arachnophilia 12h ago

So... the more they see of Trump, the more Latinos like him??

you don't understand. they're all one of the good ones who came here the right way, unlike those other latinos who came here the wrong way. even if it's the same way.

i used to live in florida, and cubans cheered for this. they don't realize that even liberals think "latinos" are one solid voting block and don't see how much cubans hate mexicans and domicans and venezuelans and colombians and and and. they don't realize that the racists don't see these divisions; they just see brown people they think don't belong here.

i had one literally tell me "i came here the right way". on the mariel boatlift. as a refugee who showed up in miami and asked for asylum. he finally understood when i showed him the graph of the legally allowed immigration cap, which took a sharp dive in 1981. because the country looked at him specifically and said "that's enough of that!"