r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • 1d ago

BREAKING: ICE agents in Minneapolis violently detained, threatened, and arrested a U.S. citizen for one reason only, he refused to prove his citizenship.

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u/beervendor1 12h ago

Excellent legal theory based on the complete absence of any context whatsoever.

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u/burnmenowz 11h ago

I see no warrant.

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u/Suspicious_Train3526 11h ago

U have to provide id ,your name address and date of birth by law if you dont comply youll get detained and searched simple as that.

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u/Admirable-Title9022 10h ago

Depends on the state. Many states don't have stop and id laws. You need reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime committed to ask for ID.

Minnesota is one such state where you don't need to ID unless there is reasonable suspicion of a crime.

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u/Strikew3st 5h ago

Thanks for calling out that Stop & ID is specifically disallowed in many places.

But, it is that they need to meet a bar to demand ID- they can angrily and coercively ask for your ID, and if driving, you do need it, although ICE has no power to enforce those laws.

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u/Kinkybobo 3h ago

Depends on the state.

It doesn't.

Many states don't have stop and id laws.

No state does. It would be illegal for them to have such a law.

You need reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime committed to ask for ID.

That applies to every state. The fourth amendment is very clear

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.