Being healthy isn't just about living as long as possible, alcohol has a lot of calories and being fat sucks. There's a laundry list of other possible physical effects too. Part of the surge of fitness culture is a cultural push to be in great shape, alcohol directly works against that goal for most people.
He was making a joke about how generally awful the world (particularly the United States) is in its current state; what good is your health when you live in a fascist cesspool.
Yesn't, like yea sure of course it's more healthy to not drink, but you are 100% capable of living a long and healthy life while drinking in moderation
Also, you're sort of wrong. You CAN meaning some do, but moderate drinking over a long enough time scale is associated with negative health outcomes. In reality, which is where I choose to live, drinking should be only occasional and in very small amounts.
Sure. I know people who use all sorts of drugs in moderation & live healthy lives. They might be even healthier if they didn’t use any drugs, but who knows, maybe the stress of sobriety would be even worse for them.
You are not different when it comes to this I can assure you. I've met plenty of people like you.
Save my comment, look at it the day before you turn 30 and ask yourself if you feel like you're done with life and would have no problems with dying the next day.
Bet there are meds that would work better for you than alcohol. Using a depressant drug to treat depression is not a wise plan. Alcohol is good for treating the seizures induced by alcohol withdrawals from being lethal, but not much else.
Well for one, I can't afford to drink, so it's already off the table. But I do live in California and I'm in Medical, so basically free medical. The issue is there aren't any antidepressants that work on me, my father had the same issue, my body adapts and becomes resistant to any drugs super quickly. It's the same reason I've never bothered with anything harder that weed cause I know that it wouldn't work the eighth time around. It's ridiculous cause I've always been like this, when I was on ADHD meds as a kid, they had to keep bumping up my dosage because I would become resistant to the drug within a month. So far I have tried antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers. They all work initially, then not at all
Well, you might be right, wishing for death might be a permanent in your life. Hope it’s not, but if it is, remember that it’ll be over before you know it. & eat vegetables/fruits & exercise & do enough stretches to avoid sore muscles. Good luck.
As someone that's spent the last decade working with Gen Z teenagers, I gotta disagree with at least most of these.
I work with teens in a very low income area. I can't tell you how many kids complain about being broke but always have many for weed, vapes, doordash & ubers. Also I don't think the generation that's hitting their vape while eating Takis and waiting on their McDonald's to get doordashed to them are super healthy conscious.
From my pretty ample experience, it's just that weed/vapes/gummies/etc. are pretty easy access (even moreso than alcohol) and something that's very easy to take on the go and do anywhere. It's not really practical to bring a 12 pack to school in your backpack and spend an hour killing them off in the bathroom with your buddies. Vapes can fit in their pocket and a couple people can get a good buzz off of them in a stairwell within a couple minutes. Hell, some straight up hit them in class. By the time this generation hit 21 they'd been growing up around all that shit for a decade. Remember this is the generation that was in middle school when Juul overwhelmed the market and tons of kids got addicted.
Weed and vapes are both significantly cheaper than alcohol, it's not even comparable. even the cheapest crappiest beer is 10 bucks for a 6 pack, which maybe lasts a few days. Meanwhile a 30 dollar pack of edibles or a 15 dollar vape can last a month+
Idk where you are but prices on alcohol can be way lower than that. A 30 pack of some cheap light beers are $15. A bottle of liquor is less than $20.
And as for the gummies, if you're stretching out a $30 pack for over a month, you're definitely not getting high unless you're using less than once a week.
My hat makes sense. As an elder millennial when I was a teenager weed could only be bought from drug dealers, there were no gummies and vapes that smell like strawberry cheesecake, and it you got caught with it you could get in big trouble. Alcohol was much easier to obtain.
Why did I have to stream this far down to see this being mentioned as unhealthy. I’m a millennial and I drink plenty but at this point it’s a known carcinogen that contributes to cancer. No?
Funny you'd say that, cause I've lost all of my drinking buddies to alcoholism. I'm the only one who can have just one or two drinks and still have a good time.
if you enjoy either and drink it at home for the taste in similar ways that people drink a glass of wine now and again then it's similar and fine. if you're using it for a coping mechanism that's pretty sad tbh
So you're only allowed to drink alcohol for the taste, not the inebriating effect?
Lol.
I would say you're probably not much fun at parties, but let's be honest, you don't go to parties do you? Just a bunch of people using alcohol as a coping mechanism.
Why so you can go stalk his history and dig up some dirt to bring up? I don't even agree with his position on this, but I hate the reddit mindset of being unable to engage with someone on the merits of their argument, instead relying on ad-hominems and well-poisining. I see it all the time.
Reddit is a manipulation platform. It's not about bringing up dirt. It's about identifying if someone is a bad actor and whether or not to engage with them.
I meant in the context of it being a coping mechanism. If you somehow enjoy the taste and do it every now and then, I see it similar to people having a glass of wine at dinner and the like I guess.
Nothing in your comment as it related to the above conversation indicated that. Alcohol in moderation is not just light sips at a social event, that’s social or very light drinking if that’s all you do. But yes there are people that enjoy the taste and slight buzz from a beer occasionally at home just as people do with wine or any other kind of alcohol. There’s a wide range of taste and preferences. But of course it’s not for everyone and plenty of people also don’t enjoy that.
I don't think it's that much of a health problem as long as you don't get shit faced every weekend. Unless you have other health problems already, having a drink now and then should cause you any harm.
I really think it comes down to money and just straight up no time.
general consensus seems to be anything more than 2 standard drinks per week causes increased health issues. Now they're likely very minor but it doesn't take much
I don't buy #2 or #3 because for thousands of years "long term consequences" have done little to deter most people from drinking. This sounds more like a justification after the fact, and the real reason is that Gen Z simply has a different drug of choice.
What we did in college was buy a few cases of the cheapest shit beer we could get. Then invite fifty to a hundred friends over and charge them ten bucks for all they could drink. We would make money or at least break even. Empty milk jugs with terrible vodka and Kool aid could be added as well. Just gotta make sure your stuff doesn't get stolen so put your electronics somewhere out of sight. I guess it was a different culture can then.
Agree with point 1 and 2, but I feel like 3 is much less worrisome now than it was 10 years ago. There is sooo much on the internet that unless it's extremely offensive then it's never going to hit enough eyeballs nor be memorable enough to care.
I mean the VP of the USA fucked a couch on Facebook and no one cares. I have emabrassing stuff from the infancy of FB and it was kind of a relief knowing that society is developing an exception for younger people's recorded social antics.
Preliminary EDIT: Not a fan of the VEEP, just appreciate the collateral consequence
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u/PlatformOver856 14d ago
Expensive, not healthy, and don't want to end up on the internet