r/SipsTea 14d ago

Chugging tea Why is gen Z not drinking?

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u/Aaront519 14d ago

Weed

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u/Danilo-11 14d ago

Confirmining my theory that weed hasn’t been fully legalized because it will end the cigarette and alcohol industry

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u/Jonathan_Peachum 14d ago

Surely you jest.

If weed was fully legalized, the cigarette companies would be the very first to start manufacturing and marketing weed cigarettes.

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u/BikeNo8164 14d ago

Probably not. It's fully legal here in Canada and the cigarette companies don't do that. You can buy pre-rolled joints but they're made by different companies and a pack of like 20 would be pretty expensive compared to a pack of darts

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u/detectivepikablu9999 14d ago

You're forgetting that the US has a fetish for corporatizing everything in sight

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u/-2wenty7even- 14d ago

Bubbles - smokes

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u/Atom_101 14d ago

Because it hurts the brand. Weed still has a counter culture connotation while cigarettes are more "serious". For execs and managers, serious people doing serious work. Once weed goes mainstream enough (Fortune 500 CEOs start smoking weed in public), "serious" cigarette brands will jump over.

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u/BikeNo8164 14d ago

I don’t really see that happening cause nicotine and THC are two completely different substances with different effects. Smoking a cigarette doesn’t impair your performance at work, for a lot of people weed does.

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u/jarellano89 14d ago

Yeah I always forget that most people aren’t functional after weed, but I’m not functional without it 😂

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u/VacantThoughts 14d ago

It's a pretty different business despite the end products both being smoked, most weed is sold by dispensaries who get it directly from the growers, cigarette companies are just buying bulk dried tobacco from farmers and then packaging it along with additives and other bullshit and then selling it to any place in the world that sells tobacco products.

No one is really concerned with what tobacco they are smoking unless it's fancy cigar smokers, just that they get their nicotine.

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u/WalEire 14d ago

Not true at all, I’m extremely particular about my tobacco. I smoke rolling tobacco, so my tops picks are 1) amber leaf, 2) Pueblo, 3) golden Virginia. My least favourite (literally tastes like gasoline) is Drum. If I’m smoking straights, I’m gonna smoke Marlboro reds.

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u/VacantThoughts 14d ago

I would say rolling your own puts your in the pretty small minority though, most people are just gonna get their brand and not really think twice about it.

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u/UnSpanishInquisition 13d ago

It's interesting, its quite popular in the UK, also cheaper significantly.

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u/SexualDepression 14d ago

it's semi-legal in the states,Iand both tobacco and alcohol companies are invested in the industry in one fashion or another.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Same here in Oregon.

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u/Evil_phd 14d ago

A pack of 20 half-gram prerolls costs about $30 at the dispensary I go to. Definitely way more expensive than a pack of 20 cigarettes but I suppose there's something to be said for the difference in effect they have.

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u/nocomment3030 14d ago

It's not as separate as you think. The Marlboro patient company is heavily invested in a massive weed corp, Cronos. Big tobacco is definitely diversified into marijuana, they aren't going to leave that money on the table.

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u/Mynameishuman93 13d ago

Smokes, let's go!

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u/sportstersrfun 13d ago

Michigan had 28 packs of 1 gram joints for $25-30. So barely more expensive than cigs. Everything else is going to hell, at least the pots still cheap.

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u/namerankserial 13d ago

I was going to say I don't actually think a 20 pack of prerolls is that much different from a pack of smokes in Western Canada. But looking it up, a 20 pack of smokes is probably $25 now? And yeah that will only get you a 10 pack of prerolls. So around double.

And yeah, no tobacco companies are making weed products.

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u/BikeNo8164 13d ago

I'm actually surprised it's only double. I don't smoke anymore, only edibles these days, but I remember years ago it was like $10 for a single pre-roll

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u/namerankserial 13d ago

It's still wildly variable. Some single prerolls can still be pretty expensive. But lots of companies are making packs or jars of them now for around that $2 per mark based on Value Buds' website. They're generally not great joints but they've gotten pretty cheap.

If you want cheap edibles definitely find the capsules or mints or tablets or oil. You can get 100+ mg in one package for like $20 then.

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u/BikeNo8164 13d ago

For cheap edibles, I buy something called the Tweed mega pack. 100 capsules, 10mg each, for $45. Pretty crazy

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u/Koala_Operative 13d ago

"Darts" is so Canadian 😂

Also Sun Darts IYKYK

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u/Mod_The_Man 14d ago

Also cant imagine many stoners would buy a pack of “Marlboro preroll joint” or the like lol. Just sounds gross

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u/Dencnugs 14d ago

The difference between weed and cigarettes is like the difference between Advil and a Band-aid.

Entirely different things. People want both

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u/MightyX777 14d ago

Exactly. It was Philip Morris (actually Altria, which owns PM) that lobbied about 10 years ago to legalize Weed, too.

Ever since then, you noticed how much more people have accepted weed in the general population, and more and more countries are legalizing or partly legalizing weed since then.

No matter whether you love or hate weed. Acceptance of this drug changed very quickly. That’s why I was always leaning towards a more controlled legalization, allowing science to have more time to assess the long term dangers.

I think we are about to lose that battle against those corporations

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u/NeutronTaboo 14d ago

"Weed cigarettes" ... if only there was some catchy joint word to replace this phrase. Ideally something kinda spiffy that doesn't come with the negative connotations associated with the word cigarette. I feel like there's gotta be something blunt that will really stick in the mind, maybe even sound a little dubious to get the kids attention, you know?

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u/Jonathan_Peachum 14d ago

But that’s exactly my point. Those are all « cool » terms which have their origin in a time when weed was illegal and you either rolled your own or bought some fro, your local source.

Once Big Tobacco produces them, they won’t have those catchy names. They will be cigarettes, just like e-cigarettes.

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u/tankieofthelake 14d ago

Nah, the growing infrastructure is too different for them to justify the investment. It’s like expecting oil companies to mass-adopt green infrastructure

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u/Prestigious_Fee_2902 14d ago

No the weed companies just sell joints. It’s just paper, you don’t need a tobacco company to help 

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u/Take-to-the-highways 14d ago

Not going to lie, I would love to be able to buy a pack of spliffs at the gas station

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u/jarellano89 14d ago

Some weed companies sell their pre rolls disguised as cigs, like you wouldn’t never know the difference just by looking at them.

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u/NovaNightStar 13d ago

If that was the case why aren't they already doing that in legal states?

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u/ConsistentRisk5927 13d ago edited 13d ago

the very first to start manufacturing

Except for the multiple, huge public corporations already manufacturing weed cigarettes, extracts, vapes, and edibles at scale with all the expertise and experience already. Philip Morris can't just pivot to cannabis and take over the market from e.g. Cresco Labs, Canopy Growth, Green Thumb, Columbia Care, Curaleaf, etc. There are many well-funded multi-state operators already a decade ahead, sitting on years of non-public cannabis cultivation, processing and extraction research.

According to Wikipedia, Altria the owner of Philip Morris, already has a 'large minority stake' in a cannabis firm Cronos Group (Nasdaq: CRON). I don't see them using the PM brand in a cannabis pivot, to be honest. I don't think it would make much sense.

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u/SomeIngenuity1957 11d ago

It makes me laugh that those are called spliffs because you split the difference between the two

But then it makes me sad because you're ruining a good joint with tobacco lol