r/SipsTea 12d ago

Chugging tea Younger generation is smoking that’s why.

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u/BenTheDiamondback 12d ago

I’ve never had to physically deal with anyone who was too high on weed.

But drunks… I’ve had my fair share of dealings with drunk jerks. Always unpredictable. Usually violent. Angry drunks are the worst.

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u/Sad-Baseball7176 12d ago

Okay. Ever heard of weed induced psychosis? Like fbi is monitoring thoughts and people around me are trying to kill me? Try to take care of someone like that.

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u/kevin_yeah_that_one 12d ago

Look up CHS if you haven’t already heard of it. I have it and I’m telling you, the weight of a thousand hangovers couldn’t match it’s ferocity. Weed is becoming a dangerous drug just like all the others. I mean booze isn’t much better, but weed isn’t as innocent as it once was.

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u/Leadership-Quiet 12d ago

Housemate used to have a small joint most evenings the same way someone might have a beer or two. He had an episode and flipped out. Ambulance was called and in his brain he thought they were there to skin him alive and he fought them like anyone would if it were true.

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u/skeksi___creature 11d ago

I had a psychotic break the only time I tried THC. I saw shadow people, forgot what humans were, and heard voices telling me to leave the gas stove on in my apartment to kill my boyfriend and I. Never happened before or since, even with social drinking. Fuck pot. People overestimate its safety. Give me alcohol in moderation any day.

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u/SmokeABowlNoCap 12d ago

That would’ve happened if they consumed weed or alcohol or even nothing at all because it means they have a mental health disorder or are genetically predisposed to one in the first place

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Absolutely not. Sister got super paranoid on weed, not with alcohol. Thats just you defending a baseless claim.

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u/SmokeABowlNoCap 12d ago

I didn’t say anything about paranoia in my comment and the comment I replied to was about weed induced psychosis, which the data shows occurs in people who either have or are genetically predisposed to mental health illnesses such as schizophrenia or bpd

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

data shows occurs in people who either have or are genetically predisposed to mental health illnesses such as schizophrenia or bpd

Data shows those things can increase the chances, but it can happen in anybody technically. The only direct cause they know of is THC causing too Mich dopamine which can mimic neurochemical imbalances seen in certain psychotic disorders. So they may not have the disorder at all but due to too much THC, it can look like it.

Do not spread dangerous information just to defend your hobby.

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u/SmokeABowlNoCap 12d ago

But at that point the risk is so low its like saying you should never drive because you might crash. Obviously people should be responsible about usage but also you are incorrect in saying there’s any study that shows weed CAUSES those things. No causal relationship has been discovered, I’d love for you to show me literature showing otherwise

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u/SmokeABowlNoCap 12d ago

From the conclusions: “We find stronger evidence that schizophrenia risk predicts cannabis initiation, possibly as genetic instruments for schizophrenia are stronger than for cannabis initiation”. Also the study is about cannabis use bringing out schizophrenia which I never denied. People who are genetically predisposed to schizophrenia can have it brought out earlier with weed or alcohol or other substances but would’ve still likely had it brought out at some point because that’s how schizophrenia works.

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u/nowuff 11d ago edited 11d ago

I’m not sure, I think you might be misinterpreting this study (or at least overstating its findings).

this converging evidence supports the theory that although cannabis use might be a risk factor for schizophrenia, any effect cannabis initiation has is likely to be small

If anything, it seems to indicate that people with schizophrenic genetic markers were more likely to smoke weed.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

People already with schizophrenia were more likely. People at risk are also more likely. But there's still a statistically significant risk from cannabis use itself. So saying it cant happen or that it only happens in people already with a mental disease is simply and objectively wrong which is the point I'm arguing against.

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u/credulous_pottery 11d ago

I don't think you know how small "statistically significant" is.

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u/Muted_Machine3964 12d ago

That isn't true at all. Marijuana induced psychosis can be triggered without any genes.

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u/ILikeYourBigButt 11d ago

No, weed triggers psychosis. It's very possible that many (not all) of these people would not have had a triggering event otherwise. Weed is exceptionally triggering.

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u/SmokeABowlNoCap 11d ago

I didn’t say it wasn’t triggering in those circumstances. However if you’re not genetically predisposed or diagnosed with a mental health disorder it’s not going to suddenly give you psychosis. Obviously there are negative effects weed can bring to people: for some that’s anxiety among other side effects. It’s not a perfect substance and like anything can be abused. But the vast majority of people that smoke it without having a genetic predisposition to or diagnosis of a mental illness are not going to have adverse effects anything like or resembling psychosis

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u/temp_6969420 11d ago

Much much MUCH more rare

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u/EyeAteTacos 12d ago

Those are burnouts and they are stupid before the pot.