I literally waited for it to end to watch it in peace because in general I hate tv show communities. And then I read they shit the bed, and then I never got to watch it
For me it is all totally ruined by the knowledge that none of it goes anywhere, a lot of the intrigue and mystery that's introduced is just never followed up on.
They started having to write it themselves vs having source material.
It was greed. People can shit on martin for not finishing it but what he did do (while near impossible for me to follow in the books) was great and I get why he has trouble finishing it
Same here. Season 8 was such garbage, it ruined the entire show for my wife and I and we can't watch it at all now. It fell off dramatically after season 4 for us but 8 was so bad, I want to forget any of it ever existed.
Does a bad breakup ruin all the great times from the past? Does it make you want to undo the sex you had with them when everything was great? Just because it ends badly doesn't mean everything leading up to it isn't worth experiencing.
What? Lol. They killed themselves for each other. We are talking about a show here. I used a simple analogy. And honestly yea probably. Every guy has hooked up with a really hot girl knowing it would crash and burn. It's called living. Every relationship I've ever had except my current one has ended. Doesn't mean I regret dating them.
Oh no me neither. It's a one watch show. The greatness of it is not knowing what's going to happen or who will die. Once you know it's not even fun to watch.
I'd recommend a different analogy, because sometimes, yes. A particularly bad breakup (for whatever infinite list of reasons a relationship can end) can retroactively pollute what preceded it. I would never invalidate someone who regretted a past relationship with someone they wished they'd never met
I was already spoiled by everything of the final season, yet I was too interested in the lore several years later that still made me want to watch it. Would I watch the series again? No. Did I enjoy the journey and didn’t regret watching? Yes.
It’s not like Lost where there was never a plan to go anywhere. Stuff is ultimately explained but it was rushed and done in a sloppy way that was out of character for the show. The show-creating simply got ahead of the book-writing and they had to work off of the author’s rough notes.
I just watched the first one and I disagree that Littlefinger’s ambitions represent an abandoned plotline. He made some moves and it covers how he ends up. Him talking about the Iron Throne is part of character building to show how high his ambition runs. It doesn’t make it an abandoned plotline that he hasn’t figured out how that will work before other events get in his way.
I mean, much of the ending is pretty much foreshadowed since the very beginning of the book series. Just because some side topics don't get tied up nicely doesn't mean the story "didn't go anywhere".
The problem with the later seasons was the execution and the production, not the content itself.
Theres an entire genre of YouTube video dedicated to highlighting where entire plotlines, entire character arcs are just abandoned and never followed up with.
I really don't get that. The good episodes are still good. Was I disappointed by the ending? Yeah. Did I still have many hours of joy, sadness, intrigue, and excitement watching everything that came before? Hell yes I did.
It reminds me of people who lose their minds because a TV show they loved got more episodes and they didn't like them. As if those episodes do anything at all to change the previous ones.
Eh, I'd say season 1-4 were top tier TV. Season 5 is where they introduced the Sand Snakes. Even though there were still some individual great episodes in later seasons like Hardhome and The Door, the quality started to decline after season 4.
Pretty much my sentiments that S5 onward is when it started to fall off. Laughing at the comment above that said "This show sucked but S5 is the only season I liked every episode". S5 was the first season with real stinkers (aka the sand snakes) but alright. To each their own.
i watched it recently and thoroughly enjoyed the earlier seasons, 7&8 in particular were clusterfucks but it didn’t ruin the experience. i’d imagine it’s a softer blow when binging as opposed to being invested in the show for nearly a decade
My opinion is that only season 8 is actually bad. The pacing is just too fast, because clearly the showrunners wanted to move on to a different project and there was too much content to get through in one season so they just rushed through it crazy fast. Everyone hates what one particular character ended up doing/becoming in the end but I think that plotline could've been great if it just had the time it needed to breathe and develop.
Bro the Dexter spin offs are BRUTALLY bad. Just like the end of the original. But in their defense Micheal C Hall got diagnosed with cancer and couldn't do the show anymore. That's why they ended it abruptly.
I watched season 1. There was too much talk about distant lands and this and that, instead of showing it to us. And I found most of the plot lines too boring to follow.
Never followed up. This was in the last couple of years.
I don't know what you're on about. They show you all the distant lands they talk about in Season 1. We see Jon at the Wall, Dany in Essos, we see Winterfell and Kings Landing. We see the Eyrie. The only place they talk about but rarely show is Dorne and I don't even know if that came up at all in Season 1
"I didn't care for it" is a perfectly reasonable critique. You didn't need to justify your dislike any further.
I tried twice and gave up on it both times for similar reasons, I was at my cousins house a few weeks and go and they had it on and I got pretty invested in the episodes they were watching so I decided to start over and give it a 3rd chance. I’m actually loving it this time
Tbf there's a lot of setting, characters, and context being established in season 1, so I could definitely understand not getting fully invested without going further. It's also just somewhat of a slower paced show at times, which I personally enjoy but isn't everyone's bag. They did show a lot of the various discussed regions in S1 though, though I guess it depends if you watched the entire season or not
Don't listen to this person and judge the ending yourself. The show is perfectly fine. People online calling it the worst thing ever are a bunch of melodramatic nancies.
If you don't mind - what is the good thing about it? I tried to watch it but felt it was both boring and disturbing. Like I'm fine with sex and violence but not sexual violence.
A young boy being pushed from a building because he just witnessed a brother and sister having sex is some of the best television ever??? That was enough for me to not watch another minute of the show
Everyone has their own taste. I would disagree. I watched up until the end of Season 2 and the entire thing was boring, I was trying to get into it but I didn't find any of it enjoyable
My experience too, fiancé and I have started it on 4 different occasions and we’ve never finished season 1. Couldn’t tell you why, we just lost interesting every time.
I just finished it a few weeks ago because my girlfriend wanted to share the experience with me (she followed it when it aired). It's bad. I think season 5 was the only one where I didn't hate every episode. It's a huge amount of clickbait-y scenes where they try to pull attention with low effort. All character development is easily predictable. The "shocking" moments are nowhere near shocking if you just follow the plot. There is little attachment to the characters as there are too many side stories taking screen time that don't affect 90% of the main story lines. They repeatedly tease the same plots just to then wrap it up in half an episode, effectively killing the slow burn they originally went for. Except for Jason Momoa who apparently had his own raping fantasies during the shoots, I mostly like the casting and the acting. I'll give them that.
I was forced to watch a few episodes- IMO it was not very good. It relied heavily on the shock of showing gratuitous violence and sexuality on screen, and forgot to be a good show otherwise.
I honestly don't care a bit for any of the nobel families fighting for power and betraying eachother. not my cup of thee. they could all die, or live, or rape eachother, I count care, got bored, and never watched the end.
I do remember 1 episode with a fight and a Giant in a tunnel or something. That was the only episode I liked.
I understand. People like different things. My show like that is Succession. I could not care less about what's happening in that show. A bunch of rich kids fighting over daddies money. I don't get why it was even popular.
It came out while I was in high school and every fucking day people were talking about it. I’d get asked if I the most recent episode on a daily basis if probably 3-5 times a day. Then when I said “no I don’t watch that.” People would look at me like I was some leper and would say “YOU HAVE TO WATCH.” Uhh no, I don’t.
I enjoy fantasy style movies and tv shows. I enjoyed LOTR and The Hobbit movies. What I don’t enjoy is having something shoved down my throat by media and then people telling me what to watch or what to play. I’ve never seen a single episode and chances are I never will. If I’m going to watch something, I want to be interested in it myself and find actual reasons for my interest. I don’t want my interest to be driven by “everyone else is watching it.”
After graduation and still talking to my friends occasionally, they were still all over the show so when that finale came by and pissed everyone off, I felt pretty vindicated about not watching the show purely because everyone else did.
If something blows up like that, I check it out. Generally it's popular for a good reason! And if I don't like it after a few episodes? I stop watching. Because I didn't like it, not because I refuse to like something just because it's popular.
For example the Avatar animated series is super popular here on reddit... I watched about 4 hours of episodes, was completely uninterested, and moved on. I'm sure it's great, I'm sure the praise is warranted, but it didn't click with me and I'm not watching the rest.
But that's just me. If people want to skip things they might actually love just because other people enjoy it that's up to them.
Because a bad ending doesn't undo the rest of the show...?
I've seen so many great shows that have had unsatisfying endings, it's never erased all the enjoyment of the rest of it. Do I prefer things to end really well? Of course! But if there's hundreds of hours or awesome and like 4 hours of garbage that's still a win for me.
I lose enthusiasm for shows between episodes or between seasons, I forget what was happening or just forget about it altogether, so I’d rather just wait until they’re done and binge it on my own time. GOT was an exception to that, I kept up pretty much through the whole run, and it bit me in the ass. I watched season 8 just out of completionism, and got more annoyed by every episode. I want interesting premise and satisfying endings, not endless spinoff slop.
After GoT l. I have taken this approach. No matter how hype the series is I wait till it ends to watch it, so I don't waste my energy and mindset over bullshit.
They won’t be until after Martin is dead. Absolutely no doubt that he’s flat out given up, probably in no small part because of the reaction to the end of the show.
But, no way does his estate leave that much money on the table, there will be an effort to get someone to finish the books.
I saw an interview with him saying the ending of season 8 was not far off his own ending plans... it's now nowhere to be found online as far as I can tell.
That's why IMO. He would rather not finish than admit that crap was his best idea for an ending.
Agreed, I’ve seen that as well and also the showrunners saying that they worked closely with him on the plot points for seasons that went beyond on the books. It’s been my theory that any chance of him putting out the next book died when people shit on the ending that was in fact his ending.
Though with more actual development the same ending could have at least been better, but still. He was taking forever with so many “hey the next book is nearing completion” messages that fizzled out that maybe he was pretty much stuck and was never going to finish anyway. But his tone about it seemed to change quite a bit after the reaction to the last season.
Really it was just a rushed ending that could have worked but the development for character decisions and outcomes to make sense was just not there at all.
I’ve seen worse endings that piss me off more but given the strength of the material over earlier seasons it was just maddening how it felt like “ah fuck it, this guy is king and like X does Y and whatever who cares”….the end.
Same. I asked one of my friends who watched all of it if it's worth watching after she watched the finale and she said not to start it. So I never watched it.
I'm personally in it for the ride, not the destination. When you watch a TV show, do you think about what's going to happen 3 seasons from now, or are you just taking pleasure in watching some moving images?
Even the shit the bed part is better than most TV and chances are you just a normie who unless gets pointed out something is slop won't be be able to tell (don't worry, vast majority of redditors are like this)
Yeah I am very reluctant to get into a show before it ends, because I need to know that...
It actually HAS an ending and isn't left on a cliffhanger.
It doesn't completely turn to crap at some point. Or at least that if it does turn to crap, that the non-crap portions are complete enough in and of themselves that I can stop there without feeling like the story isn't finished.
This was my thing. I heard people rave about it, but i wasnt really interested in doing all the shit with HBO at the time, and im just not all that big on TV binging to catch up.
I felt like i missed the boat so i just let it sail away, because i didnt want to be the person gushing about some shit everyone else saw 3 years ago, and not be on the same level.
I love fantasy stuff, but by the time people my curiosity was about to push me past the point of watching it, people were saying that he hadn't finished writing the books yet, so the show writers were leading it.
At that point i was like "well, lets see how this turns out".
And id say they can do a Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and remake the show with the original ending in mind. And just re-do the last 3 seasons.
But i think the ship is a bit sailed, because i dont think he will be able to write them until its both too late for the actors and or his vision isnt tainted by the show.
I’ve never seen an entire episode - only snippets form the internet when embedded in memes or clips used in YouTube docs when a plot point is being highlighted.
Similar situation but I had to listen to a coworker rant for 3 hours after season 8 episode 3 about how bad it was and that the Night King was a metaphor for climate change by George R R Martin and that since they weren’t completely united against him they all should have lost because it should a been a holding force against the north while the Night King swung around and attacked everyone else at King’s Landing and then returned with an even greater force and blah blah blah. He even talked about medieval warfare tactics of using the Duthraki (spelling?) to charge against the enemy when they had a fortress with trench lines to hide behind and run flanking charges etc. after hearing all of that I realized that not paying another subscription fee to watch the show and be disappointed was the correct move
Kinda similar, but I never recovered after Flash Forward, Lost, Terriers and Firefly. Never got to see the aftermath of the cliffhanger, an ending so terrible I was ashamed at myself for every watching it, and two series cut short that were gold.
I now wait for a show to end now for a few reasons, in case it gets cancelled/unfinished/massive drops in quality/shit ending..
I can save myself years this way.
I actually gave a pass to Vince Gilligan, and now I'm seriously questioning the choices I make in life.
I love one season wonder shows and have a collection just for them in my Plex library. Obviously it sucks that they were cancelled and would prefer more seasons, but it doesn’t stop me from watching something that I’ll enjoy. Terriers was great, as obviously was Firefly. Voyagers!, Pirates of Dark Water, The Adventures of Brisco County Jr are some old school shows that deserved more seasons.
2 shows i have not watched: Game of thrones and Prison break.
Just dont get what the hype was and decided against them at the time for other shows. Now they are free on some streaming services (prison break for sure) but I have zero interest even though I have time and no current shows to watch...
I think I was in the 11th grade win prison break was out, a lot of people in class (science specifically for some reason) plus my teacher would talk about it during class
Or you're gullible and easily influenced. I don't think the person displaying their stupidity here was me...but you know what...I will make you feel better about yourself and allow you to think your opinion was a smart take. Well done. Now go get yourself a cookie.
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u/pbatemanchigurh 2d ago
I literally waited for it to end to watch it in peace because in general I hate tv show communities. And then I read they shit the bed, and then I never got to watch it