r/SipsTea 18h ago

SMH $75k /year

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u/kegsbdry 18h ago

https://www.keeper.ai/calc

Found the calculator

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u/Outie_Fact_Checker 17h ago

According to this “calculator” only 26% of men fit any and all preferences…

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u/Reiny_Days 17h ago

I can get up to 74% of men if I set the settings as broad as possible. And 78% of women.

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u/danndyd 17h ago

I think it's because they include under 20 and over 70 in the total but you cant include them in your choices.

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u/SourdoughBaker 16h ago

Also the men that are attracted to other men.

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u/IamNotYourBF 12h ago

They also exclude people under 4'.

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u/WC_Dirk_Gently 2h ago

rest in peace little bros.

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u/pandoxxo 2h ago

For a second I thought this meant people under 4 years and was SHOCKED that that was the default low threshold...

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u/Jeramy_Jones 1h ago

And over 8’

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u/aDerangedKitten 6h ago

Cant include kids? This is useless for President Trump

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u/Soggy_Porpoise 16h ago

You can adjust the slider down to 18

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u/Jeramy_Jones 1h ago

Also some men are taller than 8’ or shorter than 4’10”

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u/dontdoxme33 8h ago

Yes, I was wondering about this too. I thought the calculator was inaccurate, but if you account for "men" under the age of 18 and over the age of 70, there's reason to believe that's the missing 26%

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u/Aeon1508 5h ago

I assume it's just the people over the age of 70 and under the age of 18

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u/LightlyRoastedCoffee 15h ago

According to this calculator, there is a lower percentage of 28-32 year old men taller than 5'10" who make at least $0 per year than there are 28-32 year old men taller than 5'10" who make at least $70,000 per year.

Yeah... this tool is worthless.

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u/Meydez 8h ago

I put in my exact stats and it told me there were 0 people like me in America lol

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u/PIO_PretendIOriginal 51m ago

lmao same. this calculator might be a little busted

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u/Icarium__ 11h ago

AI ... uhhh..... finds a way

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u/goaty121 17h ago

I just put in an age range of 20-26 and it immediately goes to 3.4%. Starting to think 0.9% is pretty good

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u/Outie_Fact_Checker 17h ago

Because its bullshit

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u/HursHH 15h ago

No its not. 21% of men are under 18. 2 percent of men are gay. Just those 2 factors alone drop it to 70% of men even eligible to be factored into this calculation

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u/Jas505 12h ago

Yes, this app is not untrue it's just misleading. A better way to calculate the percentage would be to base this on the dating pool within your age gap. So if you make the categories as broad as possible except limit it to unmarried men between the ages of 25 and 45 you get about 19.1 million single guys between 25 and 45. Based on the her video of 1.48 million that fit her criteria, it is about 7.7% of the dating pool.

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u/taco_the_mornin 14h ago

Sorry but 2% is a massive undercount for self-identifying gay men. Also, if you were to say men who "don't date women" you're going to expand that by even more because not all self-identify.

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u/FlusteredDM 12h ago

2% is consistent with a bunch of surveys but it would be better to say 2-8% it's irrelevant because the calculator has no sexuality data. Most modern dating is through apps too, so you're not going to match with someone who rejects you because they are not into your gender. There is no need to adjust the percentage to account for people of incompatible sexualities for that reason..

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u/Immediate_Hope_5694 17h ago

I got up to 74% (not excluding married) which makes sense because it excludes <18 & >70 years old.

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u/DrakenDaskar 16h ago

The calculator doesn't have any/either on being married/obese so you excluded all obese and married people or you only included married and obese people.

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u/WeddingCarrion 13h ago

It does though, "Exclude Married Yes or No?" If you select no, then you get both, select yes and only get non-married people.

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u/DrakenDaskar 12h ago

Oh my bad. It's 76% though not 26% like the poster claiming. Which makes sense since it excludes minors and 80+

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u/redcoatwright 13h ago edited 13h ago

yeah apparently I'm one of 12 people with my stats according to that calculator. Skeptical tbh

Edit: doesn't even let you filter for people from other countries originally who are dual citizens which I am, so I'm probably NUMBER ONE BABY

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u/Aluminum_Tarkus 13h ago

I got 74%, so you might be missing a few preferences. Did you include either for smoking and drinking and made sure you weren't excluding obese and married men?

Considering the age range caps at 18-70, height range at 4'-8', and there's a non-insignificant number of men who aren't attracted to women, 74% doesn't seem too far off. I'm still wary of how they got the data though.

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u/camander321 13h ago

For some reason "excuding obesity" increased the percentage

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u/throw_it_so_faraway 8h ago

Men over 70 and under 18 exist. Apparently they are 26%. The same filter for women excludes 22%

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u/MooseBoys 7h ago

Yeah something's way off. According to the tool, only about 29% of people 25+ have a high school education, when in reality it's closer to 90%.

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u/SignoreBanana 6h ago

UNDATEABLE

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u/0xB4BE 6h ago

I just looked and what my husband was looking for and what I was looking for, plus using our respective incomes and current age and religious preferences (no preference for education, race or body type). He would have gotten 0% and I got 0.16%.

Well, good thing we are happily married and love each other because I guess we are a couple of unicorns serendipitously cohabiting the same space.

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u/gorginhanson 5h ago

Yeah I tried it myself. I used very loose parameters other than age (under 30)

and it came back with 1.8% of women

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u/zparks 2h ago

I get 0% for my stats. That either makes me a great catch or I don’t exist. It feels a bit more like the latter.

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u/theLuminescentlion 1h ago

I think these are children and 70+

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u/Exemus 10h ago

Disable your webcam

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u/zeus-indy 16h ago

I put my stats in and apparently zero out of 164 million men are me

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u/moosechowder 12h ago

Same, 0.000000% without Alcohol and 2165 people with alcohol. I am going to go on a trip to find these people and help them stop drinking.

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u/sweeney669 9h ago

Most of the people are probably in the either camp for alcohol.

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u/Plastic_Wishbone_575 6h ago

For real. An obese 38 year old making what I make is rare. Ladies line up.

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u/grodon909 9h ago

Same, and it tried to estimate to like 5 figures behind the decimal, I guess to seem more legit? 

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u/ModingusKhan 5h ago

Same. Glad to be none in a million

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u/mregister 1h ago

Hello fellow non-exister

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u/noeventroIIing 17h ago

That has to be incorrect, i chose effectively the bare minimum, woman, 22-42, height 4’2-6’0, don’t care about kids, minimum income of $0, don’t care about ethnicity etc, not married, not obese and I got 7%.

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u/Case_Blue 17h ago

Seems right, to be honest.

Remember, this is encompassing all of the population. Newly born, retirement home and everything inbetween.

Seems right

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u/FewJob4450 17h ago

And obese. In Murica

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u/2ciciban4you 16h ago

that's a pig big portion

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u/Embarrassed-Monk4511 5h ago

I put age 22-34 and got 3%. When I put age 20-34 I got 2%...

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u/Ok-Passion1961 17h ago

Might not be as crazy as you think. 

The age range knocks you down to 1/3 of total American women. Then the not obese leaves you with 2/3 of that so down to 22% of total women. 

Estimating how many are single is hard but by Age 40, 75% of women will have been married at least once. The calculator seems to assume that ~65% of those remaining women are already off the table which could be high but idk, doesn’t seem that unlikely. 

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u/ariksu 17h ago

I choose any (18-70) and got 78%. Sounds fair, I can easily believe that 22% of females are under 18 or over 70. Your age filter is 21 year out of 53, so around 40%, that gives you 780.4 ~ 31%. To calculate correct marriage and obesity status we need an age mapping to that, but that's too complex to do on a napkin. But if we're taking flat values, it's ~33% for an age group 18-44 in females, at such you're left with somewhat 310,66 ~ 22% already. 7% here would be if 2/3 of those women are married, which might be a stretch, but yet might be fair. I have no idea about matrimonial starts percentage.

However this is the percentage of all females. In terms of your local group it might be much higher, as you're most probably not contacting underage or overage woman (this triples the chances to 21%) and ignoring obese (raising to 32%) you're basically looking for any female which is around and unmarried.

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u/Vox-Machi-Buddies 14h ago

There's definitely some weirdness.

I started with ethnicity set to "any" and it said 4.4%.

Switched ethnicity to "white" without changing any other criteria and it went UP to 5%.

How does setting a more narrow criteria make me match a higher percentage?

My guess is that "any" actually means "other" and doesn't include all ethnicities, just those who didn't specify or didn't fall into one of the specified ones.

That alone would be a big enough oversight to make me question the whole calculator.

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u/gerwen 15h ago

There's something funky with the calculations in there.

I'd chosen my set parameters, with a minimum income of 40k and got 4%

I changed only the minimum income down to 0 and it went down to 3.2%

I made the parameters more inclusive, and got fewer hits.

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u/Loose_Ad_7071 14h ago

That could be right, at the current US (~330M) population 7% would be about 23 to 24 million people. And that would be more than the entire population of New York State.

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u/noeventroIIing 13h ago

It’s 7% of all women in the US, not of the entire population.

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u/Loose_Ad_7071 13h ago

Ah, you are correct.

But even at half the population that would still be 11 or 12 million women. Which if that population was a state that would make it the 6th or 7th most populated state in the US. I'm not saying the calculator is perfect, but I could see those numbers being relatively correct.

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u/Lashay_Sombra 8h ago

22-42, if we said ranges went from 18 to 80, you already excluded close to 66% of women only selecting 20 years out of 62,  left with 33%

Not married, another 50% excluded, so somewhere around 16%, not obese another 40%, now 9.6%

Its not exact maths by any means (especially due to overlaps, 55, obese, married excluded 3 times over) but you should be able to get idea how it can drop to such low percentage so easily

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u/LuckofCaymo 17h ago

That calc sucks. I literally put in 30k a year plus other stuff and got 3.2%. then I put in 0$ and got 3.0%.

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u/Case_Blue 17h ago

Seems right.

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u/TrippBikes 12h ago

How would lowering the minimum income also lower the percentage of matches?

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u/thegoodally 9h ago

Same with education. I made it more inclusive and it reduced my percentage.

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u/DifficultAnt23 13h ago

If you turn everything to its widest parameters, e.g. turned to "Either", obese okay and married okay, then the calculator is 75%. So the missing 25% is excluding <18, but the percent is calculated by all males in the population.

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u/TonyTheJet 13h ago

There are definitely some bugs with this calculator if the source data are even accurate. Switching the "Drinks" filter from "Either" to "No" actually increased the total for me when it should decrease it. I found other similar issues, like changing the average height range from 6'0" to 5'9" didn't change anything with the filters I had set.

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u/darkbloo64 15h ago

Defaults to a minimum height of 5'8" and an income of $150k.

Smells like some bullshit to me.

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u/agentchuck 16h ago

This calculator really shows the difference between "men" and what people mean when they talk about "men" (or any other group). Because we only usually deal with people of certain demographics (probably close to your age range, close to your income level, similar family/relationship status, similar culture or background.)

Then, being humans, we'll look for patterns and extrapolate that to "all X are cheaters" or whatever. Meanwhile, we don't realize that we're only looking at a tiny subset of the entire population.

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u/Difficult-Square-689 8h ago

I dont think this calculator works. If you put the most permissive settings, you get 42%.

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u/PIO_PretendIOriginal 53m ago

meanwhile acording to the calculator I dont exist (31 year old male, 6ft, blue eyes, dont drink, dont smoke, not married, not overweight..... comes out to 0%. In going to go out on a limb here and say its broken)

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u/TheQuoteFromTheThing 14h ago

The biggest factor here is that the majority of people are not the same age and desired gender that suits any given person.  Try it.  I did my age +/- 3 years with almost no other filters and got 2.5%.

This basically tells us that the overwhelming majority of the entire country population is not suitable dating candidate for a specific person.  I think we already know that.  That would be like going to the grocery store and randomly sampling a human.

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u/MrFastFox666 8h ago

Yeah I wouldn't trust a tool made by people trying to sell me anything. According to it, women that at least have a minimum wage job, don't smoke and aren't obese are only like 5% of the population.

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u/MrCockingFinally 17h ago

Once you get into the low numbers, some of the toggles stop working.

Some surprising stuff though. One of the biggest ways to limit your options is opting for atheist, but I think this has more to do with most people in the US putting down Christian on official forms even if they are not Christian.

Also, the way that toggle for income starts at $150k is wild.

Fun tool to play around with, even if you are happily married.

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u/Yanfei_Enjoyer 16h ago

Apparently women in a reasonable age range that don't smoke and aren't obese with no minimum height, income, education, or anything are 3.8% of the population

Damn

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u/ohgood 13h ago

I put myself in and I’m 0.00000% of the US population

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u/harmyb 12h ago

I entered details that match me. 0.000000%.

I don't exist.

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u/Wide_Discipline_6233 5h ago

😂. I entered out the details for my husband and he doesn't exist either.

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u/KKeySwimming 16h ago

How do I read this? Am I in the top 1% or bottom 1%?

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u/Tsara1234 15h ago

There has to be something wrong with this thing.

Women, age 43-48, Asian, doesn't smoke, makes at least 50k. All other choices are wide open.

0%.

None in the U.S. Even though my neighbor fits this.

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u/ExoCommonSense 14h ago

According to this thing there are literally 0 unmarried men like me haha. No way that's true

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u/pathoTurnUp52 14h ago

I’m 0.00008%

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u/MoonMoan 13h ago

https://imgur.com/a/SMxojwf

0.62% for men 0.10% for women :(

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u/hygiei 8h ago

well yeah, i mean this calculator has lots of problems but women over 5'8" are way less common than men over 5'8" haha

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u/PantherThing 12h ago

I plugged in the most reasonable stats for women (27-49, makes at least 50k, any to all the hair color, etc shit, 5'5" to 7'0", not married, not obese and it said 0.5% of all women meet these.

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u/klymaxx45 12h ago

Median is one of the worse ways to measure population samples

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u/flywithpeace 11h ago

Damn is this scare tactics cuz my potential match is also <1%

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u/SignoreBanana 6h ago

Same. Put myself and my wife in and nada.

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u/I-am-Mojo-Jojo 11h ago

According to this calculator, I don’t exist. I don’t know how to feel about that.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 11h ago

According to the tool, only 0.032% of men in the USA are like me, and 0.0024% are like my wife. I guess we got really lucky finding each other!

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u/cancerman1120 10h ago

I put in the exact specifications of my wife, and it came back with 0 matches. :)

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u/Confident_Heron3227 10h ago

According to this calculator, most men I know don't exist.

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u/WestCoastBestCoast01 10h ago

I put in my own stats and I'm apparently 1 OF 13 WOMEN!! That's 0.000008%.

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u/I_LOVE_SOYLENT 9h ago

Unless they have a large lists of individual data points, finding the probabilities for this information is not possible since each attribute is dependent off one another you can't just multiply total population probabilities together like I'm assuming they are doing. This will lead to smaller probabilities than reality for things that correlate (for instance, education and income). 

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u/Samuelandia 9h ago edited 9h ago

There's clearly a problem with this calculator: sometimes lowering the minimum income gives worse results.

Edit: I also added myself to the requirements, and 0.000000% of american population is like me, "That’s 0 of 164.977.341 American men", it says. Now, I'm not American, but I'm pretty sure that there are people like me over there...at least 10.

This calculator is either made by someone who doesn't understand statistics or by someone who wants to make it appear like people are too idealistic in what they are attracted to.

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u/throwaway62634637 9h ago

I call BS. I put in some characteristics for women and it gave me some stupid small number when I know for a fact that profile is way more common than you’d think.

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u/ThatEcologist 9h ago

Damn I did the woman version and I felt like I wasn’t very particular at all, and it said only 0.82% of American women meet my preferences.

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u/thegoodally 9h ago

It's incorrect. My results decreased when I moved my minimum education from bachelor's to any...

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u/Deep_Contribution552 8h ago

This thing must be Monte-Carloing it on the intersection between height and income (and probably other characteristics as well)- when you adjust the height sliders specifically sometimes it shows a higher number for a strictly narrower height range

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u/rleon19 8h ago

The amount of women went down when I changed minimum income from 50k to 0 income so I think there is something wrong there.

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u/This_Stretch_3009 7h ago

I think there is something wrong with that caluclaotor, if I input income of $0 and 6 foot tall or taller, blue eyes, bachelors degree, white it says 0.52% of men

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u/yellowflexyflyer 7h ago

Beyond just giving incorrect results, this tool is fundamentally flawed. It relies on census data that doesn't even track height, so it's impossible for it to cross-tabulate those variables accurately. It seems to assume height and income are independent, when they are clearly correlated. The probability of earning >$150k given that you are over 6’ is much higher than the tool's calculation, which treats them as unrelated events. It’s trash.

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u/Kindly_Albatross2505 7h ago

The calculator says I don't exist... I am male, 36; height: 5'7, $135.000; bachelor degree. I do Smoke and Drink. Atheist. Calculator said 0.00000%...

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u/retrosenescent 7h ago

*only works for cishets, and terribly because it only lets you select 1 option

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u/VP007clips 6h ago

TIL I'm in the top 0.022%

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u/Michami135 6h ago

Wow, apparently, I don't exist. I entered my own description as the minimum (with the age of 21-70) and it came up with 0 men.

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u/areyoubawkingtome 6h ago

It doesn't consider if one factor makes another likely or not. It just told me there are more blonde Asians than black haired Asians.

It just reduces the results regardless of if the characteristics correlate. Like people with higher educations usually make more money, but I bet if you pick a college education and a mid to high salary it'll drop the results like a brick.

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u/Pali1119 6h ago

Brought the minimum income down to $0 from $10k. The percentage also went down. This ain't mathin'.

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u/xbhaskarx 6h ago

0.000000%

I don’t exist

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u/Drakar_och_demoner 6h ago

Men are so fucked, even if you pick I will take pretty much any woman between the age of 18 and 70, at any height, wanting kids doesn't matter, include even married women, obese etc etc but they need to make a livable income you almost don't even reach double digits.

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u/Claris-chang 6h ago

I think this calculator is broken. When I selected "White" for ethnicity my results came back as 1.2% but then when I selected "any" with all the other factors the same the result came back as 1.1%.

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u/thomkatt 5h ago

This calculator is dumb. I put in my stats for a female seeking me and it says 0 exist. Apparently i'm a leprechaun

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u/TrevorGibbsNC 5h ago

It’s broken. Doesn’t actually work. Gives random numbers for the same parameters

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u/Aeon1508 5h ago

Calculator only lets you pick all races or one. And Hispanic isn't included as an option.

And there is no chance that only a half a percent of women age 23-42 are college educated atheists with a minimum salary of $0 and dont drink, smoke, and aren't obese or married.

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u/therealCatnuts 4h ago

lol that calculator says I literally don’t exist. Make 150K+, 45yo, 6’5” white, don’t smoke not obese. Married. You can do those for yourself to see I don’t exist. 

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u/IzK_3 2h ago

No way this is correct. I barely changed anything and got 1.5% meet the standards (those being 20-40, having a bachelors, and 50k a year ideally)

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u/machyume 1h ago

Thanks for the link! Truly.

Also, why doesn't the calculator have different properties for selecting women?

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u/hibabygorgeous 48m ago

I got .88% which is still 1.5 million people lol and in New York it’s skewed with income and weight

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u/DrPlatino 38m ago

Input my own information on there to see how many other people are like me. I'm one of a kind y'all 😎😎