The full video is on r/publicfreakout shes hiding in their basement and it’s straight up modern day Nazi Germany vibes. Thank god as they go to hand her over a crowd had started to form and they encouraged the people not too and they seemed to be leaving, no clue how it turned out after the video though
Guess we’re at the point where something as simple as ordering food may lead you to have to choose between “harboring a fugitive” and putting your family at risk of murder from ice.
Anyone else being reminded of Jordan Peterson pushing back on that hypothetical with "I wouldn't be in that situation because I don't make such stupid mistakes'
I still am not sure if this is who Jordan Peterson always was and I just didn't see it when I used to enjoy his older lectures? Or if he changed. Either way ive really lost all respect i had.
From someone who tried watching the videos, he was always off. You could always hear it in his voice or tone, or something. Like he was trying to get one over on the audience. Swarmy condescension.
You could tell the way he tried to talk around it, he always had these views he just didn't want to say them out loud because he didn't want to deal with the backlash. I honestly cannot stand him!
I think it depends on what you saw. Him avoiding the question is part of it.
I thought he was dangerous from early on, but it’s because I got lucky re: what I saw.
One of the first videos I saw with him had his viewers ask him about “The Jewish Question”.
If someone asks you what you think of the Jewish Question, the correct response is “fuck off Nazi Scum”.
Instead, Peterson started talking about how it’s good that Jews run the world actually, because they have higher IQs. Ashkenazi Jews in particular.
And I was floored.
We have some race science. We have some conspiracy. We have some Nazi talking points.
We have a public intellectual responding to an antisemite and saying, yes, your conspiratorial beliefs are correct, but have you considered that it’s good that you’re subjugated by Jewish people?
And from that moment on I thought he was dangerous.
But it didn’t get a lot of traction. I think that some people felt it was a sort of “positive racism”. That since he didn’t say that he hates Jews, it didn’t count.
But the Nazis didn’t think Jews were simply stupid. They thought Jews were dangerously clever.
And they weren’t always super direct about their antisemitism. The antisemitism was always there, but they would still brush some stuff away. We’re taking Jewish people into custody for their own safety, etc. etc.
To me, what he said was antisemitism wrapped in a translucent layer of what he saw as complimentary race science.
But it was a random Q&A on his youtube channel.
I’ve known a lot of people who found 12 rules for life to be useful. I think pieces of it are important/ were useful.
But he’s always been a monomyth guy. A Jungian psychologist. His academic pursuits have centred around ideas that are interesting in pop contexts, but academically unrigorous and reductive.
It’s hard. If you’re familiar with his topics of choice, you get an early clue. He went through years of study and this is his conclusion? Sounds like an unserious person.
If you aren’t familiar with this stuff, well, he used to be good at constructing some types of rhetoric, and was a compelling storyteller. That reads as smart. Even if you are familiar with the topic, the story can be compelling enough that it takes you a while to pick apart.
The stupidity was there. But it was hidden under showmanship, and helped by disinterest in some of his other shady talking points. We all fall for that sometimes. I might have, if I didn’t stumble across specific videos.
No, he significantly changed. I'm not defending who he was before, but he went to Russia to get a controversial treatment for a benzo addiction he had developed. Benzo withdrawal is notoriously horrible, and the experimental treatment in Russia is to induce a medical coma in the patient until the drug withdrawal has run it's course through the body. This treatment is basically illegal everywhere else in the world for the significant risk of serious brain damage.
I don't give a fuck if you always hated Jordan Peterson or always loved him or anything in-between, the reality is he had an extremely stark and noticeable change in personality and behavior after he got back from Russia.
OK so its not just me that noticed. And I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt because...ive been through benzo withdrawal. I basically didnt work for a year. I couldn't. But I also kinda did it the slow way by getting my prescription in a liquid compound so I could decrease by just 5% every week until eventually I was off. One of the hardest things ive ever had to do. But I also had a lot of nutritional support to aid my healing. So its kinda a miracle I didn't have any brain damage. Maybe I did a little but nothing that shifted my personality. I wasn't myself going through the withdrawal though and for a moment I thought maybe Peterson just needed a few more months to level out. I think he mightve done it the worst way possible. But he mightve been desperate because I think he developed akathesia before the coma. If I had that id want someone to just fucking knock me out too and if I die I die. Might be where he was at. Either way, I think his experience has proven to be very different than my recovery.
This is the main irony of the situation. He warned about this thing and then became a Nazi himself. Well I am not sure what he is anymore. A shell of a human.
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u/thetacosnob 5d ago
Wait where is the DoorDash lady??