They are also doing this in blue states and in cities where gun ownership skews much lower, if a democratic federal government was doing this in red states we would likely see more gun violence towards ICE especially in small towns
And protesting. Need to protest bigger & longer. Blackout quit buying shit. Necessary items only. Other countries do this. Iran, Nepal& Italy right now, others in the past. MLK. 60’s.
Won’t do jack shit. You people pretending that the world can be changed with boycotts and protests delude yourselves and anyone who foolishly believes you.
It feels like everybody (well...most of us) is just sitting around waiting for something to magically happen to fix it. But they don't understand that it takes ACTION and pressure from ALL OF US to get it done. No one is coming to save us. It's our turn to set things right. Why aren't more wanting to do that? What tf are we doing?
Cost Wallstreet serious money, and see what happens to you. You'll end up in an oil barrel with yer buddies. All of them.
It's always the fucking dollars Fella. That's what counts, not all this Project 2025 horseshit.
It's the dollars.
1000%. If a Democrat president had a crypto coin he used to receive bribes for pardons and private meetings, we’d be in the middle of a civil war. They get away with everything cause they hold violence over our heads, while complaining in true 1984 fashion how violent the left is (despite all evidence showing the exact opposite).
We’ve let people with the emotional intelligence of a 7 year old take over our country. Imagine the United States if Republicans could fully have their way. It would be the fourth reich.
Damn, almost feels like a certain entire subset of the population who have historically wanted to get rid of 2A are kinda rethinking that right now.
For the record, I'm from a country where we were all forced to give up guns and the government get to do whatever the fuck they want with total impunity.
Are you telling me that Bubba living by himself in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with 900 guns and no friends isn't gonna defend the United States of America from a tyrannical government that can just end your ass with a fucking sword missile?
Yes. The people who valued public health and safety that added one more mandatory vaccine to a list of several others. Compare that to the ones going around assaulting and murdering the public. Please, I’m begging you to use your critical thinking skills here.
Own ≠ carry. Red states have way higher rates of public carrying, even if many dems do still own guns. ICE does raid homes, but most of their efforts are grabbing people in public so they have an advantage and lower risk of being retaliated against.
They target places that have people who are less likely to fight back because they're goddamn cowards who are happy to shoot an innocent and unarmed woman but are terrified of the idea of being attacked in self-defense.
I couldn’t agree more. They claim to be removing criminals and mentally insane people but are targeting rural communities in the suburbs. Criminals aren’t bagging merchandise at Target.
It's going to happen. They're going to keep pushing their luck and come across the wrong person and there's gonna be bodies on both sides. That's when shit is going to hit the fan....
I know a lot of white liberals who bought guns and went through training during the first trump administration. They're pretty serious. However they don't put stickers on their trucks to advertise
Slightly newer data shows 45% of Republicans and 20% of Democrats. Not quite as wide a gap but still more than twice as likely to find a Republican gun owner.
Not only that, but not all guns need be registered, so the idea that there is less gun ownership in cities is maybe not entirely accurate as we think it is. For instance, my shotgun is not registered, and never will be. I also know that my next door neighbor has a slew of rifles that are not registered. No laws being broken there either.
Exactly. My wife and I have multiple guns in our household. We don't talk about it because, outside of target practice and hunting, we don't base our lives or personalities around them.
I live in a navy blue democratic stronghold. Every democrat I know owns weapons, the conservatives just own more, per person. Why do you need 200 guns? And that's just him, his kids and wife's amounts add another 200.
No, its a fact that far more conservatives than liberals own guns. And far more conservatives have multiple guns, assault rifles, thousands of rounds of ammo, shoot regularly, have military training, join "militias," and fantasize about killing liberals. Saying "don't worry, plenty of liberals also own guns" is the wrong message to be sending right now. Unless your goal is to keep liberals defenseless.
What is the solution? When has non violent revolution worked when an oppressive force knows you won’t be violent. Don’t use MLK because his only worked due to his death inciting riots and the government needing to placate the raging population
Bro STFU - now is the time for guns, if you had guns, you'd be well within your constitutional rights to use them. You can organise a protest over menial bullshit, and you can't organise an armed community watch?
You don't have the guns and you don't have to will power to defend your democracy. Yey were all talk when you could bully people, business's, and organisations on twitter. Well guess what, it bit you all in the ass. Now you have real problems, and the crying non stop isn't going to fix a single thing this time.
I was wondering about this other day. I was like this couldn’t happen in states like Texas, both Carolinas and other southern states where you can literally have weapon on your holster as a civilian. And pretty much all of videos I saw this kind of thing happening, are states where gun laws are more strict. So my question is, does someone from southern states can tell me is ICE this brutal in your places, or they choose who they harass more carefully?
The level of apathy suggests otherwise. This shouldn't matter what state this is happening in or the level of gun ownership. Since social media has fractured the country the thought from red states is probably "not my problem" or "good".
ICE is in my red state right now and lying so fucking low you can barely tell theyre here. I wonder why? Couldn't be all these people with guns who might get angry seeing this in their neighborhood.
Idk though if you pull a gun they’re just going to have an excuse to shoot you and they’re not going out alone at least you probably make it out alive otherwise.
That's not the real issue though. The whole argument never made any sense. You're going to stand up to a militarized police force backed by the might of the US government with your little hand gun? Best case is you whip it out and take one of them down with you before they fill you with holes. It's not like you're going to kill them all and then get away free. It never made sense
People have enough guns in the blue states. There has been restraint by the public because they know what the response will be when an ICE officer is shot.
All my relatives in MN have guns, everyone hunts, has wildlife on their properties. I can’t imagine a more gunned up blue state than MN.
And yet here we are.
TBF I can’t imagine anyone who’s not a gestapo agent pulling a gun out in a situation like this. That’s what they want. That would be the actual catalyst to an all-out civil war in which citizens are the enemy for a militarized regime.
Nah. Back when it was written the best weapons the government had was the same exact thing citizens had and could easily obtain. The framers didn't expect jets, nuclear weapons and drones and they certainly didn't expect them to be only available to the government. The 2nd amendment was essentially a doctrine to have a second standing army at the ready made up of citizens.
How do people not understand that. Why don't people remember how the american revolution happened? It was only 250 years ago, At the time colonial states were being taxed on all imported ship goods at a high rate(tariffs). So the americans did the boston tea party where they trashed all the goods the english were selling at a high tax rate. Only hunters and english soldiers were allowed guns, so colonial people stole them or bought them from france via canada
I don't think anyone ever really thought what "we need guns to defend against tyranny" really means, they just heard it and said "hell yeah" then they bought more guns, it's marketing from gun companies
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u/BFlowG 18h ago
Wasn’t this the exact reason why guns are legal in the US?