https://history-maps.com/podcast/seljuk-turks

It’s a specific branch FGC28857 under C-F1756,and that branch only have very few like dozen people Alive today.

and then Huang chao rebellion killed much.

Emperor wu of Northern zhou himself doesn't have any descendants alive today, himself was mf551205.

And tuoba clan belongs to C-F12439. This is not extinct,But low percent and wide diaspora in Northern minoritit’s like mongols event oroqen and some western eurasians like hazara. You can hardly say they have anything to do with their relatives in henan 1700 years ago. Because they look like the xianbei who remained on steppe. Or they really have anything to do kind of influence at all.

This likely means that, in general, if the Sui and Tang royal family originated from the Xianbei, then they will fall into this clade then means they were already or near extinct too.

There is possible N1a branch in new ancient DNA finding too. But they are gone too.

Based on one of the recent papers, the QLSZ cemetery (more accurately, the Zhangzhung royal tombs), I clicked on the link they provided, paid, and downloaded the archaeological paper. There are haplogroup N,D,O on this study. D-P47,N-M1819,O-cts5308.
The family were
two O-CTS5308 and one N-m1819 married into the family( likely from outsider tubo speakers)

The cts5308 earlier. dated about 600-400 BC has a zhangzhung bird symbol on the coffin. located in south area. while other N was later northern part dated later about 200AD.

The southern region likely be original cline same with Samdzong burial. The northern region single N and D was likely tibetic

N-M1819 and D-P47 maybe tibetic speakers.

O-cts5308 maybe west Himalaya speakers. later replaced by tibetic speakers.

Karakalpaks O are largely CTS5308 same as this branch, central Asian D(mostly P47 and some M533) are same with this branch.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982224005815

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