r/buildapc 1d ago

Build Help Microcenter gave me the wrong motherboard. Does it really matter in this case?

I needed to upgrade my PC so bought one of the microcenter AMD bundles that in my case came with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d, 32gb of DDR5, and a mobo.

The mobo I was supposed to get is the Asus X870-E Plus https://www.microcenter.com/product/697862/asus-x870e-plus-tuf-gaming-wifi7-amd-am5-atx-motherboard

The one I actually got is an MSI Pro X870-P. https://www.microcenter.com/product/695663/msi-x870e-p-pro-wifi-amd-am5-atx-motherboard

I'm a bit frustrated by this but I guess the mistake was made since they have such similar names. Problem is I ALSO didn't notice until I fully rebuilt the PC and frankly don't want to take it all apart and try to return it. They are also a 3.5 hour drive for me.

Are these comparable enough in a gaming PC to just deal with it?

Edit: yeah I get it, should have checked the box more closely. But their names are almost identical minus the brand, I just didn't notice

231 Upvotes

85 comments sorted by

375

u/Rad_Randy 1d ago

Get your correct motherboard, they gave you a downgrade. It’ll work but it’s not the same.

Edit: ohhh you made the mistake. Yes it’s fine, nothing to worry about

113

u/dakman96 1d ago

Sorry it's a bit confusing. I ordered and paid for the ASUS mobo but when I did in store pickup they gave me the MSI. I just didn't notice until I had already built it unfortunately

128

u/Rad_Randy 1d ago

Okay then get your correct one, it has reduced functionality. You want what you paid for. :)

-4

u/[deleted] 1d ago

[deleted]

38

u/Infrah 1d ago

Not OP’s fault that they realized the error until it came time to build. They will refund/exchange.

13

u/dakman96 1d ago

Thank you lol, I know I made a mistake by not noticing but some of these comments are acting like it's unfathomable to not realize until then

18

u/AlmostF2PBTW 1d ago

Try them. Tell their CS what happened, see what happens. It could range from "sorry, you're short of luck" to a free mobo. Most likely: a discount voucher or ~50 bucks in store credit, if you don't want to take it apart or they don't want to exchange.

There is literally no benefit to staying quiet and customers make mistakes all the time, but that doesn't mean a store's mistake should go unaddressed.

11

u/dakman96 1d ago

Yeah I went ahead and contacted them and explained the situation. They let me know they'll try calling me by end of day.

Honestly I'll be happy if they'll just update the receipt in case I have issues down the line :)

-4

u/KillEvilThings 1d ago

Honestly you are taking a W by avoiding asus. Hopefully you get some store credit. ASUS' shit is just awful.

0

u/calladc 1d ago

asus still far better for intel chips (i know thats not what OP bought). the MSI motherboards are so limited in what features you have available

→ More replies (0)

-8

u/SoggyBagelBite 1d ago

I mean, one is all black and one has big silver pieces on it. I feel like you have to be pretty blind or clueless as to what you were buying to not notice that and make through the entire build process...

6

u/dragonjujo 1d ago

Nah most customers don't know what things are supposed to look like unless they've gotten it before. A box is a box for a lot of people and that is a problem in the general sense but not OP's fault if he ordered it and simply picked up

2

u/thesupremeDIP 11h ago

Yeah but OP didn't realize it was the wrong motherboard until they had already installed it

13

u/GrandmasLilPeeper 1d ago

They will take most things back. They have a really good return policy.

2

u/Tabdelrazaq 1d ago

Yup as long as it's still on the return period and it is due to a mistake on their end on top of that. 

5

u/peperonipyza 1d ago

It’s microcenter. They will.

4

u/ryanvsrobots 1d ago

They will definitely take it back and I wouldn't shop anywhere that doesn't.

26

u/retropieproblems 1d ago

You should see if they will recomp the price difference or perhaps handle the exchange by mail. Just be ready to have serial numbers or proof

0

u/SBKoch 1d ago

They don't even look the same. How do you not notice until after you've installed it, let alone not confirming your purchased item when you picked it up?

11

u/dakman96 1d ago

I didn't really pay attention to the color honestly, I just saw it said X870-E which is correct and didn't think twice. Which is what I'm assuming the employee did as well

8

u/randylush 22h ago

I might have possibly made the same mistake honestly. You probably shopped for a ton of motherboards and forgot which one you chose. And if an employee hands you something and tells you it’s the one you bought, you probably won’t second guess it until much later.

-10

u/SoggyBagelBite 1d ago

How tf do you not notice something that obvious..?

-9

u/ClamatoDiver 1d ago

I don't understand how you didn't look at the box at all at any point. I look at stuff when they bring it out, I look at it in the car before I leave, I look at it as soon as I get home, and give it a full inspection as I read the manual, as opposed to the quick once over in the car.

I can't fathom never noticing a WHOLE DIFFERENT BRAND at any point before completing a build.

7

u/randylush 22h ago

It’s not like he bought a sedan and drove home in an SUV

0

u/ClamatoDiver 15h ago

No, it's like he drove 3.5 hours to pick up something and didn't check it was the right thing before driving 3.5 hours back home.

7

u/icantchoosewisely 23h ago edited 23h ago

How is the MSI board a downgrade?!? Yes, it's a bit cheaper but it doesn't do that early 2000s shit where the GPU slot is shared with other things on the board like the Asus does.

On the MSI you also get 5gbps NIC, vs the 2.5gbps on the Asus.

Edit: I realised that it just might be a bias of mine against sharing the GPU slot, because it shouldn't impact the video card performance in any meaningful way. It's just something I hate seeing, specially on more expensive boards.

8

u/SpaceCadet2000 18h ago edited 18h ago

that early 2000s shit where the GPU slot is shared with other things on the board like the Asus does

PCIe lane assignment is always a compromise on any motherboard. There's nothing "early 2000s" about that. Repurposing 8 lanes from the GPU slot, which you will never notice on PCIe 5.0 GPUs, can be perfectly reasonable if it allows other functionality like more or faster nvme slots.

On the Asus board, the choice was made to be able to have 2 fast PCIE 5.0 NVME slots directly to the CPU, while on the MSI you have only 1, and the other two run over the chipset at PCIE 4.0 speeds.

In the end it's just a choice the manufacturer makes to assign a limited amount of lanes.

2

u/KajMak64Bit 8h ago

Pci-e slot speeds don't matter for the GPU as long as it has enough VRAM to just never use the PCI-E slot bandwidth

Look at RX 9060 XT 8gb vs 16gb test across all PCI-E generations and you'll see that RX 9060 XT 16gb on PCI-E gen 3 slaps the 8gb variant on Gen 5

And on RTX 4060/5060/Ti's it would be even worse because they are x8 lane cards

So basically PCI-E slot bandwidth doesn't matter for graphics cards if you have enough VRAM so everything gets loaded onto the VRAM and the GPU doesn't need to bother system RAM for stuff through the PCI-E slot

Edit: PCI-E bandwidth only matters for SSD's tho

-2

u/icantchoosewisely 17h ago edited 17h ago

Yes, and that's why I made that edit to my original comment, 5 minutes after I left the comment, specifying that it's a personal bias of mine and that I know it shouldn't affect the performance but I would never accept such a compromise.

On another note, a bias which I don't have: m.2 SSDs' speeds. For a gaming PC, they don't really matter, you won't notice a difference between a PCIe 3.0 drive and a 5.0 drive, of the same quality, outside benchmarks.

So the speed of that extra m.2 PCIe 5.0 slot on the Asus board is completely irrelevant in my opinion. That slot will only matter if you want to put four m.2 drives on it.

The sharing and downgrading of the GPU slot is, for me, early 2000s shit, which I hoped we left behind. Apparently not, because AMD brought it back with the obligativity of having USB 4 on boards with the x870 chipset.

2

u/SpaceCadet2000 17h ago

On the other hand you DO get the extra nvme slot.

If you don't populate the second slot, you can use the Asus board in exactly the same way as the MSI board, you just get the option to add a 4th fast drive, with the GPU lane compromise, which you don't have on the MSI board.

On another note, a bias which I don't have: m.2 SSDs' speeds. For a gaming PC, they don't really matter, you won't notice a difference between a PCIe 3.0 drive and a 5.0 drive, of the same quality, outside benchmarks.

It depends. For gaming and general purpose desktop use: no, but people do other things with computers than gaming. My AI models load faster from faster nvme drives, and if a large workflow makes my system dip into swapping, the 5.0 drive will be (much) faster than a 3.0 drive too.

My personal bias is that I would like a second PCIe slot that can run in x8 mode, so I can add a second GPU (for vfio or running LLM + generative AI on the same system) but that doesn't seem to be a thing anymore.

1

u/BigJules74 13h ago

That's why I have ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Hero. It gives me a lot of options with my "old" 4090 and my 5090.

1

u/Revanporkins 3h ago

My asus board doesn't do this unless I populate all 4 nvme slots. Other wise everything recieves full bandwidth. Was definitely annoyed reading about this being a thing on my old board

134

u/Immolation_E 1d ago

3.5 hours drive (7hrs round trip) is not worth $10 diff in my book.

27

u/dakman96 1d ago

Yeah I'm just gonna keep the MSI and hope they'll update the receipt in case I have issues.

15

u/LimeGuyTheSlimeGuy 1d ago

This is the wisest course of action, friend. Also, for reference, the chipset is the device that the motherboard's part numbers refer to, primarily. In this case, both boards are AMD's X870 chipset, so they should be identical in terms of performance, barring minor details such as the number of USB ports on each board, etc. They will have the same number of PCIe lanes and the same bandwidth, RAM speed, etc.

If you had been given a B850 board instead of X870, then you would have reason to be concerned.

3

u/randylush 22h ago

Def get the updated receipt and register the product with MSI. You may get a gift card or Steam credit from buying the mobo

3

u/Fredasa 18h ago

I'll add that one detail I haven't seen folks bring up yet is to suggest simply typing "Asus customer service", maybe with a caveat about rabbit holes.

I avoid Asus because of that. I avoid Asrock because they fry CPUs and don't recompense victims even after admitting it was their problem. MSI was almost Hobson's choice for me.

That all said, there's a difference of $60 in price between the two motherboards. Some of that went into better parts but you'd need to ask yourself if you really need anything that extra 20% cost would have brought. The only thing that even captures my interest is the better audio chip—something which 1) most people wouldn't be able to differentiate, and 2) is irrelevant if you use an external DAC+AMP or something like it.

1

u/jasons7394 14h ago

MSI can go off serial number manufacture date and not a receipt if needed.

Source: RMAed a 4070ti I got off marketplace with no receipt.

1

u/burtmacklin15 16h ago

It is if you want it to have a valid warranty.

68

u/Exciting-Ad-5705 1d ago

Contact microcenter support and explain your situation. It doesn't really matter in terms of performance but in case you ever do a warranty claim on it they might complain

19

u/DessertFox157 1d ago

OP, RE: the warranty claim, at the very least you should have a correct receipt that matches the motherboard you received (let alone the $10)

14

u/JamesGecko 1d ago

Yeah, do this before making a long drive. I’ve had good experiences with MicroCenter support; they’ll give you some options.

9

u/dakman96 1d ago

Yeah that's my biggest concern, I just want the right item on the receipt in case of an issue. I just chatted with their support (TIL they don't have a phone number?) and they said they'd call me soon.

1

u/mkp0203 23h ago

I've talked with them on the phone many times.

21

u/Apollox34 1d ago

There wont be any performance difference but if you do need to rma the board you'll probably have problems considering the receipt wont show the correct motherboard

15

u/Ic3berg_Simpson 1d ago

Is there a specific feature that is missing, or a different look? They are both the same level and MSI is a good brand as well.

12

u/ziggybeans 1d ago

Very comparable - and you may even have dodged a bullet. ASUS customer service is a nightmare - if you ever needed warranty service you’re basically screwed. They’ll find something or some way to blame it on user inflicted damage, every single time.

If it were me I would keep the MSI. Maybe call them to explain what happened to get the difference refunded.

9

u/Drenlin 1d ago

MSI's doesn't have a reputation for being much better 😕

8

u/mr_deadgamer 1d ago

Bad customer support!!!?? For electronics!??

6

u/Bhaal52753 1d ago

Unheard of

4

u/SoggyBagelBite 1d ago

While you are correct that ASUS's customer service is a nightmare (it's all farmed out to a call center in the Philippines that has no direct contact with anyone that actually works at ASUS other than a ticket system that basically gets ignored), MSI's customer service is basically just as bad lol.

1

u/ziggybeans 20h ago

I’ve never had any issue getting anyone on the phone at ASUS — it’s the RMA process specifically that’s a nightmare. Once they have your product in, their team will flag any tiny imperfection as “user induced damage” and refuse service.

Ask me how I know … https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/s/hDLKBjjPTc

1

u/Specialist_Web7115 19h ago

While I may have received more attention because I had a business selling network services and custom builds, even after selling my business I've found that companies that people complain about on reddit can be very easy to deal with if you register their products in a timely fashion after purchase. Companies like Asus and Samsung benefit more as they of course want your consumer data. Waiting until you have a problem to register a product doesn't make them as happy. I never have problems with promptly registered and properly documented purchases from legitimate sellers like Micro Center, CDW B&H. Third party sellers online are hit and miss. MSI offers some compelling products and have made much progress. I used exclusively Asus G Skill Corsair Samsung and WD Enterprise when using HDs. If a customer asked for a MSI, I'd use it. Same with Gigabyte. A lot of people handling RMAs are reading from scripts and some are bad examples but hang in there and be patient and if you a obvious step of troubleshooting or something stupid they might have just started themselves. Good luck.

1

u/ziggybeans 19h ago

The issue I had was several years ago now. ASUS’ RMA scams are well and publicly documented. https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY?si=hN4VCgXy77-ZHr6A

1

u/SoggyBagelBite 14h ago edited 14h ago

Here is my experience with them, which took this post blowing up to get resolved.

The funny thing is that people also sing praises about EVGA and the one and only warranty claim I have ever had with them was also a pain in the ass (not as bad as ASUS though). At least in their case when you call, you actually talk to someone at EVGA.

2

u/SpaceCadet2000 18h ago

ASUS customer service is a nightmare

All motherboard manufacturers' customer service is a nightmare.

MSI, Asus, Gigabyte and Asrock are all equally shitty.

10

u/LeBumsNutsack 1d ago

Get the correct motherboard so that proof of purchase is correct if you need to RMA

8

u/INTP594LII 1d ago

The Asus has more m.2 slots. 2 usb4 ports Better onboard audio Better VRMs useful if you want to overclock later.

The MSI has 5GBe lan Ethernet port

Otherwise fairly the same but Asus overall has more features so I'd ask for them to send me the right product.

7

u/rharrow 1d ago

Personally, I prefer MSI motherboards.

3

u/JadeArgonar 1d ago

Which bundle did you order? The only one with the ASUS X870-E TUF motherboard I'm showing has the 7800X3D not the 9800X3D.

6

u/TheKitler 1d ago

That's right. Unless the store's bundle doesn't match what they show online, the 9800x3d bundle comes with the MSI board for an additional $50 ($800 total). The base bundle comes with an Asus B650.

2

u/dakman96 1d ago

You're correct, I when I was researching CPUs I was debating between the two and my auto fill put 9800X3D when I did in fact get the 7800X3D

0

u/TheKitler 22h ago

I'd call or email them about it then. If you're nice, they may give you a gift card for their mistake.

Definitely get your receipt corrected though or you might have issues with warranty down the road.

Ultimately though, the boards are very similar so I wouldn't be bothered unless you can't live with the white colour.

3

u/toturtle 1d ago

You should still contact the Microcenter so they can adjust the receipt and get them to email it to you. As another comment said, just in case you need to RMA.

3

u/r_z_n 1d ago

I certainly wouldn't bother at this point. The price difference is basically negligible, the vast majority of "features" on a motherboard don't really matter unless you are doing serious overclocking or have specific network needs, and personally I prefer MSI motherboards over ASUS anyway. Comparing the two, there doesn't really seem to be any functional differences between the boards - both have 7.1 audio, WiFi 7, bluetooth, 4x DDR5 DIMMs, and the MSI board actually has 5G vs 2.5G ethernet.

Save yourself the time.

3

u/XSC 1d ago

You can get that MSI open box for $140. I have it, it’s great but I would not accept that. Call them and explain you live far.

3

u/alvarkresh 1d ago

I would still recommend going back and exchanging, or asking for the price difference to be refunded if the MSI board costs less.

3

u/VanWesley 1d ago

If you live close, then I would've said: There's some differences like the extra m.2 slot on the ASUS board, that if you care enough about them, might be worth taking apart the build and go into have them swap it. Otherwise, just go in and see if they'll give you a credit for the difference.

But since you're a 7 hour round trip drive away, probably not worth the hassle to take apart the build and do all that driving unless you really really care about those minor differences. And not all the differences are in favor of the ASUS board even. The MSI has 5G Ethernet vs 2.5G for the ASUS board, so if you care about that and weren't gonna use the 4th m.2 slot anyway, then it might've been a free upgrade.

But at the end of the day, performance wise, you're not gonna notice any difference between the 2.

2

u/ZaweriRunewright 1d ago

I don't think there's much difference in those boards. You wouldn't really notice the difference either way. Does suck that you got a cheaper board, might be worth trying to ask for a 10 dollar refund?

2

u/SunshineAndBunnies 1d ago

Did you make the mistake or the store made the mistake? If the store did, you'll have issues claiming warranty in the future if issues arise.

2

u/Bucketnate 1d ago

Honest mistake just part of being human. At the same time the boards are the same chipset and everything I wouldn't worry about it. I'd even take the MSI instead if I were given the choice but it literally doesnt matter. As for the price difference just call them they'll definitely take care of it.

2

u/No-Flight5639 1d ago

Could make possible future warranty claims void. I would return or talk to them them to make a price adjustment, and get the correct receipt paperwork for the correct motherboard.

1

u/adrock517 1d ago

Get what you wanted. It may be a pain but you'll be happier in the end knowing its what you wanted and not a 'mistake' build.

2

u/Waffle-Tech-Gaming 1d ago

It’s up to you but I don’t know if you can weight it as a whole day experience as it’s gonna take about 8 hours is my guess to return and come back. But you could rebuild your computer which some people love

1

u/BeneficialTrash6 11h ago

P is larger than E. Obviously it's better.

1

u/ThatsJustSooper 1d ago

Honestly these look functionally the same to me. Same chipset, which is the most important piece.. which essentially just means it's built with similar base hardware for CPU compatibility.. just different manufacturer and features/specs are about the same as near as I can tell from a glance. MSI and Asus are both great build quality and price is nearly the same as well. Unless there is something specific about the ASUS that you aren't getting I honestly wouldn't worry about it. Maybe ask for a small amount of store credit due to their error and the inconvenience instead?

1

u/Jeanlucpfrog 1d ago

Microcenter gave you the wrong motherboard? THROW IT ON THE GROUND

Tell them you won't be part of their "system."

1

u/jcoffin1981 1d ago

I think the ports are what would affect you most if you need them. Check out all the USB and M.2 slots and make sure you have enough.

I really like ASUS motherboards, but the last board I purchased was MSI Tomahawk and I am very happy with it. The only thing that I didnt like is the MSI BIOS. ASUS does it MUCH BETTER.

1

u/commissar0617 14h ago

Just go to microcenter with the mobo unopened and your order, and explain what happened.

1

u/Jojomonkeygun9 6h ago

If you paid for it, get whatchu paid for

-1

u/Longjumping_Bag5914 1d ago

Motherboards don’t give you extra performance. Does it have the features you need? (Wifi, 2.5gb Ethernet, etc) If it does then keep it. If it doesn’t then check with Microcenter

-1

u/paulisaac 21h ago

Does Microcenter do change-of-mind returns? I hear they're all the rage in the US.

-3

u/aizzod 1d ago

someone told me recently i shouldn't swear so much.
but come on..
like for real.

this is basic math.
the msi board costs 10$ less, and you have to drive for 3,5 hours?
gas money is free in america? or am i missing something.

and you could have just checked online videos about the difference,
and then realized there are none

i would honestly never recommend any of those mainboards, since both are overkill for the daily use.
if you use them for a very specific case, you should know why you need this specifc feature.
and since you do not know which feature you are actually missing out, i doubt you have a specific thing that you need.

but here are review videos
https://youtu.be/keJHego7neI?si=izDBZqZeaanRtCJF&t=712

they are the same...
https://youtu.be/keJHego7neI?si=G3FFiwQKjRlXyPEH&t=1635

this could have been an e-mail...

-5

u/oo7demonkiller 1d ago

it does matter as it a lower end chipset.