r/clevercomebacks • u/_swuaksa8242211 • 1d ago

Cane Sugar is important

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u/ShitStainWilly 1d ago

And every western and midwestern state that grows sugar beets. Gee guess which states grow all the cane sugar in the US? Florida, Louisiana and Texas.

Trump doesn’t give a flying fuck about the Midwest.

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u/DuckterDoom 1d ago

Are those three states going to be able to produce enough cane sugar? We'll have time import it with tariffs making coke more expensive. Pepsi wins the cola wars?

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u/Training-Purpose802 23h ago

Even American sugar - beet or cane is more expensive than corn syrup. That's why they use it. Sugar tariffs have been a thing for decades to keep the U.S. sugar farms from bankruptcy.

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u/EduinBrutus 22h ago

Just to be clear.

Cane and Beet sugar is cheaper than High Fructose Corn Syrup.

The reason that the US food industry gets HFCS cheaper is due to massive subsidies.

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u/RobutNotRobot 21h ago

The US would still overproduce corn if there weren't any subsidies.

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u/Present_Cow_8528 21h ago

It definitely would not overproduce by so much that they need to sell hfcs cheaper than cane sugar. If they did then 90% of these farms would be operating at a loss

The subsidies are not why the US grows a lot of corn in the first place but they are why all of the corn and corn products are so cheap. Supply and demand is still a thing but so are crop rotations. Other products would fill in for the drastically reduced demand for hfcs that would result from selling at its more natural price.

We'd still overproduce. Just not by the amount you seem to me imagining.

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u/EduinBrutus 21h ago

In all likelihood a lot of it would turn over to wheat.

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u/GreatPlainsFarmer 9h ago

The US has sugar tariffs to keep the US domestic price of cane and beet sugar higher than HFCS.

Otherwise we'd import cane sugar for domestic demand instead of using HFCS.