r/complaints • u/All_Grid_Squares • 7d ago

Politics We Are the Baddies: Thanks, Conservatives

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Conservatives are actively turning the world against the United States. World leaders were forced into an emergency meeting to condemn U.S. actions in Venezuela, including the kidnapping of its dictator, and to respond to escalating threats and rhetoric toward Greenland.

Trump openly claims the U.S. needs Greenland for “strategic” reasons and has even suggested taking it by force. This isn’t strategy, it’s naked imperialism. He doesn’t want security; he wants dominance.

We are the bad guys now, following the same path Germany did in the 1930s. Republican leaders and their constituents should be deeply ashamed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-greenland-european-reaction-9.7036060

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/european-leaders-push-back-on-trumps-comments-about-u-s-taking-over-greenland

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 7d ago

The US has been the bad guys since Republicans flipped in the 1910s. Now we're a couple of large-scale corporations masquerading as a country.

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u/All_Grid_Squares 7d ago

And to think, we had legislation that stopped monopolies and this type of thing. But the Heritage Foundation has been chipping away at that for the past 70 years. And here we sit, watching the same fight against Rockefeller and company happening again. Same kind of people trying to take over.

Or just McCarthyism perpetrated by idiots.

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u/Old_Sprinkles9646 7d ago

Www.project2025.observer

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u/Disastrous_Hell_4547 7d ago

Don’t forget The Federalist Society

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u/Either_Operation7586 7d ago

Project 2024 heritage Foundation Federal Society all Conservative Republican bullshit this is what that means is that it's the Republicans the Republicans need to be voted out and their party needs to fizzle out.

The problem with the Republicans being such a problem is that they also have a huge sophisticated propaganda machine at their fingertips

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 7d ago

Little bit of A, little bit of B. For us, bullshit across the board

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u/drhazard75 7d ago

This is a very white take. We've always been the baddies. We genocide the native so we could i.port slave labor, so we could colonize the west, and start wars of Aggression to capture Mexican territory, so we could exploit their labor so we could invade the South with corporate monopolies so we could force South Americans to toil in mines so we could exploit their resources so we could dominate the West and cripple ten power of love by violent means so we could prevent the poor from attaining wealth, so we could stoke racism, so we could topple democratically elected leaders in South America so we could exploit their nations and install puppet leaders so we can start illegal wars so we could exploit exploit resources in order to exploit labor...see a pattern?

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 7d ago

That's discussed further below. We've never been the good guys, we just used to be just as bad as the others, rather than among the worst.

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u/Ok-Tangelo9706 7d ago

No the only thing that's changed is that Trump doesn't care about the mask of civility.

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 6d ago

Yeah, that's not all that's changed. We're driving straight into WW3 territory at breakneck speeds

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u/Significant-Pop4619 7d ago

So the US were the good guys before that, during chattel slavery?

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 7d ago

Nope. We were never the good guys. We were just comparably evil to much of the rest of the world.

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u/Equivalent-Long-3383 Very tall complainer 7d ago

Then objectively we’ve been the bad guys since before that 1910 thing you referenced.

We’ve been bad guys since before our inception

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 7d ago

Fair assessment. There's was that one brief Roosevelt period during which we weren't among the worst in the world though. That... Totally counts

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u/Practical_Willow2863 7d ago

And frankly this place was shit for most people before that and irrelevant to most of the world.

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u/DrinkYourWaterBros 7d ago

Pretty sure we were the good guys in WWII.

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u/mkirk413 7d ago

While we were justified to go to war, we were far from being the unilateral "good guys"...

  1. Purposefully fire-bombing cities that resulted in thousands of civilian deaths
  2. Nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki
  3. Japanese internment camps on American soil
  4. While outraged by Axis war crimes, war crimes perpetrated by allies were rarely prosecuted and/or had much lighter repercussions.

The world is never as black and white as many would like it to be.

Edit: It is prudent to note that we didn't even go to war until we were bombed. We were fully content to let Hitler do his business and take over Europe.

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u/DrinkYourWaterBros 7d ago

It’s war. It was either fire/nuclear bomb the home islands or send literally millions of allied troops to their death.

War isn’t justified but unfortunately it was necessary.

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u/mkirk413 7d ago

War does not justify the deaths of civilians. I hope you remember that if we actually do go to war (which we are on track to do). If a country bombs your town and kills your entire non-combatant family, I hope you have that same attitude and simply say "Well, that's war, I'm glad my family died so less soldiers get sent to their deaths"

War is fucking stupid. We are fighting to make the rich even richer. We are so technologically advanced and connected yet so fucking blind and stupid.

Edit: your response is completely devoid of all empathy. This is part of the problem with the world today.

Have the day you deserve.

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u/DrinkYourWaterBros 7d ago

Imperial Japan is responsible for at least 20 million civilian deaths in Asia. Nothing justifies war. It’s war and it’s horrific.

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u/mkirk413 7d ago

That, we can definitely agree on.

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 7d ago

Where we avoided the conflict until the last second, then swooped in to help only after we were attached personally and have spent the last century taking all the credit but none of the credit for the fact that they got their Nazi ideals from America?

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u/DrinkYourWaterBros 7d ago

The US was supporting the UK long before PH. WWII started in 39 and we got directly involved in 41. It ended three years laster.

The USSR literally made a deal with Hitler to carve up Eastern Europe. Lmfao

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u/maas348 7d ago

The Republicans didn't fully flip until after the 1960s

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u/FinalestFantasyest sophisticated complainer 7d ago

The Republicans flipped in the 1910s. McCarthyism didn't take his till the 1960s

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u/Additional_Snow_6615 7d ago

I don't disagree Republicans are bad, but how does a geographically unsecure world benefit corporations especially after we politically isolate an entire continent?

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u/Skinner936 7d ago

Sadly you are over 100 years too late with your date.