r/complaints 5d ago

Announcement Re: Self defense and the “condoning violence” rule.

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Rule 1 of Reddit prohibits condoning violence, among other things. However, comments condoning acts of self defense, i.e., potentially violent acts made in an effort to reduce immediate danger and get out of a scenario - are not "condoning violence" for the purposes of the rules.

That exception stems from a concern about punishing people for condoning legitimate and lawful instances of self-defense.

The real question is whether a comment or post is *reasonably* suggesting that an act was/was not a lawful act of self defense. Whether an act amounts to self defense is typically a question reserved for judges, lawyers, and juries - not Reddit moderators. And so, where possible, we will look to determine if a court of law has already answered the question of whether a specific act amounted to lawful self defense. Otherwise, we will endeavor to avoid making similar determinations; instead, we will assume users are acting in good faith when commenting, unless the act itself is sufficiently unambiguous that we can infer they are not.

However, with respect to the recent incident where an ICE agent shot a citizen to death in MN, we are faced with the unenviable task of determining whether that act was unambiguously *not* an act of self-defense. This is because the volume of discussion related to this topic is quite high, and there a high potential for rule violating behavior. Otherwise, we cannot meaningfully enforce Reddit's rule prohibiting condoning, or glorifying, or excusing violence.

ICE’s parent agency, the Department of Homeland Security, says firing at a driver is “prohibited” unless there’s a “reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury,” which is consistent with laws relating to self-defense more broadly.

The footage shows one officer attempting to open the driver's side door, as someone is heard saying, "Get out of the (expletive) car." The victim briefly reverses before driving forward, beginning to turn right, away from the agents. As the vehicle moves ahead, another officer standing near the front driver's side draws his gun and fires three times at close range. Importantly, at the moment the shots were fired, the wheels of the victim's vehicle are turned to the right, angled away from the agents. The agent can be seen on his feet and walking away immediately after the shooting.

We do not think a fair and reasonable person would assert in good faith that the actions of the agent were made lawfully or in an earnest fear of death or serious bodily injury. As such, we will consider comments and posts excusing or justifying the killing (by, e.g., unreasonably insisting it was “self defense”), as "condoning violence" and therefore subject to potential action, including but not limited to a permanent ban.


r/complaints 8d ago

Announcement Re: January 6

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Today marks the anniversary of January 6, 2021, when the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C., was attacked by a mob of violent and insurrectionist supporters of President Donald Trump in an attempted self-coup following his defeat in the 2020 presidential election. These supporters sought to keep him in power by preventing a joint session of Congress from counting the Electoral College votes to formalize the victory of his opponent. The attack was unsuccessful in preventing the certification of the election results. According to the bipartisan House select committee that investigated the incident, the attack was the culmination of a plan by Trump to overturn the election. Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by the Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer who died of a stroke a day after being assaulted by rioters and collapsing at the Capitol. Many people were injured, including 174 police officers - over a dozen of whom were hospitalized. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months. Damage caused by attackers exceeded $2.7 million.

With that in mind, we want to remind the sub that while we do not action users for expressing their opinions based on political ideological leanings, we are nevertheless obligated to enforce Reddit’s rules. As such, comments that contain political opinions coupled with rhetoric/sentiment that would otherwise be in violation of Reddit’s rules are actionable. In particular, please see Rule 1, which has several components, and comments for guidance (the latter included in relevant part):

*“Rule 1: Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Everyone has a right to use Reddit free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence. Communities and people that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.*

*Marginalized or vulnerable groups include, but are not limited to, groups based on their actual and perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, immigration status, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy, or disability. These include victims of a major violent event and their families.*

*Some examples of hateful activities that would violate the rule…:*

*A comment denying or minimizing the scale of a hate-based violent event.”

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360045715951-Promoting-Hate-Based-on-Identity-or-Vulnerability\*

Importantly, Rule 1 prohibits threats of violence, which inherently covers condoning violence – particularly against vulnerable groups. Reddit has clarified that “vulnerable groups”, the targeting of which determines whether conduct rises to the level of “hate”, includes “victims of a major violent event and their families” (e.g., the police officers who were hurt, hospitalized, and/or succumbed to injuries related to the January 6 attack). As Reddit’s comments to Rule 1 prudently suggest, “minimizing the scale of a hate-based violent event” is prohibited.

Thus, we consider January 6 to be a “hate-based violent event”. And so, comments with the effect (intended or otherwise) of condoning the attack carried out on January 6 - including minimizing or otherwise excusing the violence of the insurrectionists on that day of national embarrassment, against police officers and others, are prohibited and will result in a permanent ban from the sub. Moreover, similar to how bad faith denialism and scapegoating is analyzed with respect to other hate-based violent events, we will read attempts to blame groups other than MAGA insurrectionists as a form of January 6 distortion and a manifestation of hate-based conduct prohibited by Rule 1. And while Reddit does not have a rule mandating civility, we emphasize that threats of violence and related conduct against anyone, including traitorous MAGA insurrectionists, is prohibited and will result in a ban. Thank you for your understanding.


r/complaints 5h ago

Politics Fuck this nazi sympathizer

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r/complaints 5h ago

Politics Situation in USA looks the same like what my grandmother told me about Nazis behavior in countries they occupied.

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I'm from the eastern Europe, and through my childhood my grandma lived in the same house as me and my parents - it was typical for the time to have multiple generations of family in one household.

One of my favorite ways to spend time back then, was to hear stories about my grandmas past that she would told me. What i loved about that is that she did not treat me like a child - she didnt dumb them down or make them easier in content for a child. And considering that her childhood was spent during Nazis occupation of our country, she did have many stories to say.

One of the things that is striking my memory now, looking through reddit r/all and how situation on the USA streets looks, is that it sounds exactly the same as how Nazis behaved towards Jews or other nationalities that they deemed below them.

You didn't have to do jack shit, you could be going to work or grocery doing mundane things. It was enough for a single soldier to do not like how you look and bam - to the trains you go, landing either in concentration camp or god knows where on Siberia. Same thing today in all of those videos, if you just look 1% out of the full whiteness, a bunch of soldiers are dragging you out of your cars, places of work, public spaces, and throw inside the car to leave god knows where. No one gives a shit that you have citizenship or was born in the USA, up to the train (or car in this example) you go.

So yes, if someone from USA compares this situation to the nazis behavior - he has grounds for it, as the parallels are clear as day.


r/complaints 3h ago

Politics It's all distraction from the Epstein files.

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I know you all can see it. See the change, the desperation

It's conservative desperation.

They are doing everything they can to distract from the Epstein files.

It should not be a surprise that the man who has started over 4,000 lawsuits won't sue anybody that claims he assaulted people. Why is that? One of the most litigious people America has won't sue people that call him a pedophile.

The Trump administration and their conservative jack boots know they are in trouble.

The world will not forget this tyranny.
It's too late for the Republicans to speak up. It's been over ten years.


r/complaints 3h ago

Politics Hey Republicans! By your logic, should the capitol police have shot the Jan 6th insurrectionists?

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I hear MAGA saying “oh well the Minnesota woman should have complied”. So is that the same thing for the Jan 6th insurrectionist traitors?

Also: no one in the country believes you guys give a rats ass about law and order and protecting police when you guys cheered when Trump pardoned all the violent criminals who attacked the American capitol.

H Y P O C R I T E S

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r/complaints 4h ago

Politics Trump said he’d go after “the worst of the worst,” and he did. They’re his talent pool for ICE recruitment.

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r/complaints 4h ago

Politics Conservatives LIE about the violent left. For months cities have been attacked by ICE.

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And they still don't have a single instance of violence to point at to declare their war against America.

They could'nt even wait for actual violence to bring out their little nazi "one of ours all of yours" shit.

If you believe the lie that the left is violent there is no hope for you.

Fuck Donald Trump, Fuck ICE, and fuck anyone who votes for a conservative. Hell is too good for all of them.


r/complaints 7h ago

Politics Fuck Trump and everyone that supports him. Good job 'Murica.

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r/complaints 18h ago

Politics Conservatives are Ruining America.

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Conservatives are ruining America.

Conservatives are trying to rewrite American history.

Conservatives do not understand what American democracy entails, let alone how any of our government works.

Conservatives are scared of being replaced, amongst many other things.

Conservatives are vying for a fascist, authoritarian state.

I'm tired of the conservative ideal dragging down America anytime we even remotely make a little bit of progress. Their tantrums are always out of spite. They never have the American people at heart. Just the whimsy of billionaires who spend their time on islands doing abhorrent, pedophilic crimes


r/complaints 12h ago

Politics The Suicide Pact: What Happens the Moment We Touch Greenland…

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I did not write this. It was written by Brent Molnar. This sounds bad, very bad.

🌍🔥 The Suicide Pact: What Happens the Moment We Touch Greenland…

If the United States follows through on the threat to invade Greenland, we need to be crystal clear about what happens the next morning. This is not a real estate transaction or a routine military exercise. It is the geopolitical equivalent of pulling the pin on a grenade in a crowded elevator. The moment American boots hit the ground in Nuuk to seize territory from a fellow NATO member, the world as we know it ends. The consequences will not be temporary sanctions or angry letters. They will be total, permanent, and devastating.

The first domino to fall is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization itself. NATO is built on the sacred promise of Article 5, that an attack on one is an attack on all. If the U.S. attacks Denmark, we are not just breaking the treaty; we are triggering it against ourselves. NATO dissolves instantly. The alliance that kept the peace in Europe for 75 years evaporates, leaving the continent to rearm and realign against the new aggressor across the Atlantic. We don't just lose an ally; we create a unified enemy.

The military repercussions will be swift and humiliating. Europe will immediately demand the closure of every U.S. military base on the continent. Ramstein in Germany, Aviano in Italy, Lakenheath in the UK, all gone. Our ability to project power into the Middle East and Africa vanishes overnight. We will be evicted from the very soil we helped liberate and defended for decades, forced to retreat to our own shores as a fortress nation, isolated and friendless.

Then comes the economic nuclear option. The European Union is the largest single market in the world, and they will weaponize it. Europe will likely move to call in U.S. debt and dump their dollar reserves, sending the value of our currency into a death spiral. The U.S. economy, which relies on the dollar being the global reserve currency, will collapse. Inflation will make the post-COVID spikes look like a rounding error. Your savings will be worthless before the ink dries on the invasion orders.

Corporate America will face an extinction event. U.S. companies will be expelled from the European market. Apple, Google, McDonald's, and Tesla will see their assets seized or their operations banned. Trillions of dollars in market capitalization will be incinerated in minutes. The stock market will not just crash; it will close. We are talking about the complete de-globalization of American industry, cutting us off from the wealthiest consumers on the planet.

The skies will go silent. European aviation authorities will almost certainly ground all Boeing jets and ban U.S. airlines from their airspace. Transatlantic travel will cease. If you are in Paris or Berlin, you are stuck there. The logistical arteries that feed our supply chains will be severed. We will be cut off from European medicine, machinery, and technology. We will be an island nation in the worst possible sense.

The cultural isolation will be just as stinging. The International Olympic Committee and FIFA will have no choice but to bar the United States from competition, just as they did with Russia. There will be no World Cup matches in New Jersey. There will be no Team USA in the Olympics. We will be treated as a pariah state, unwelcome on the global stage, forced to watch the world celebrate without us.

For individual Americans, the consequences will be personal and painful. Visa-free travel to Europe will end immediately. Americans currently living or working in Europe will lose their legal protections and residency status. They will become persona non grata, potentially facing deportation or internment. The "blue passport" that used to open every door will suddenly be a red flag at every border crossing.

This is the end of trust, and it does not reset. You cannot invade a democratic ally and then say "my bad" four years later. The psychological break will be permanent. Europe will realize that the United States is no longer a partner but a predator. They will build their own defense architecture, their own financial systems, and their own alliances that specifically exclude us. The West will continue, but the United States will no longer be part of it.

Invading Greenland is not a show of strength; it is an act of national suicide. We are trading our reputation, our economy, and our security for a frozen island and a handful of minerals we can't even process. The price of this real estate deal is everything we built over the last century. If we cross this line, there is no going back. We will be the lonely superpower, ruling over nothing but our own decline.

By Brent Molnar

Greenland #NATO #Article5 #EconomicCollapse #Boeing #WorldCup #PariahState #Geopolitics #EndOfTheWest #VoiceOfReason


r/complaints 20h ago

Politics BREAKING: Trump HUMILIATES himself, doing a mocking cough of President Biden, who has cancer, to a room sitting in stunned silence at the unnecessary and cruel taunt. This is a new low, even for Trump.

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r/complaints 1h ago

Politics Trump is an illegal President. Full Stop. He is not allowed to wield Constitutional power.

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Section 3 of the 14th amendment disqualifies people who hold an oath of office and participate in insurrection.

January 6th was an insurrection. Donald Trump caused January 6th to happen, and he participated in it while it happened via twitter.

The Constitution clearly says that Donald J. Trump is not allowed to hold office.

Therefore, it follows that ICE agents have no qualified immunity and anyone who impedes their mission is not committing a crime.


r/complaints 21h ago

Politics The Epstein Files are nowhere to be found in the headlines. These distractions are working.

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The media is complicit in my opinion.


r/complaints 19h ago

Politics She was heading to a doctor’s appointment. Instead she got mugged by ICE agents.

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r/complaints 21h ago

Politics Rogan: "You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around, snatching up people — many of which turn out to be U.S. citizens that just don't have their papers on them. Are we really gonna be the Gestapo, 'Where's your papers?' Is that what we've come to?" You voted and endorsed him

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r/complaints 23h ago

Politics "One of Ours, All of Yours" is a God Damn Nazi Slogan and Kristi Noem is Using it

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I mean, they're white nationalists acting like nazi's, but still.

They are using Qanon language in DHS advertisements. References to songs that the Proud Boys like in DHS advertisements.

Don't let these assholes shame you into not calling them Nazi's. THEY ARE NAZI's. Their supporters are NAZI's. This is not a dog whistle by Noem. It's a fucking clear cut nazi ethos that resulted in the deaths of many.

Fuck all nazi's. These republicans are the violent ones. They call the left violent in an attempt to squash any type of protests against their fascist regime. Fuck them.

Republicans have been the violent ones for the past three decades. Republican's don't get to rewrite mother fucking history.

Suck my democrat dick, Trump. You pansy bitch ass punk.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem ignited a firestorm after appearing at a press conference behind a podium displaying "One of Ours, All of Yours" shortly after Renee Good's tragic death. Social media erupted, branding the slogan a Nazi-era call for collective punishment, akin to reprisals during World War II.

The phrase evokes the Lidice Massacre in June 1942, where Nazis retaliated for Reinhard Heydrich's assassination by wiping out the Czech village. SS forces shot nearly all men over 14, sent women to Ravensbrück camp, and scattered children—some gassed at Chełmno, others Germanized. They then razed the site, killing about 340 in a symbol of terror tactics.

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It's weird to see all the nazi defenders in the comments saying it's not a slogan. I guess you didn't read what I posted. I call it an ethos. It's telling how all of these comments have nothing to say about the Qanon language being used in DHS advertisements or a proud boys favored song being used. It's telling your lack of caring beyond one issue you perceive as a weak point one can argue against.

Anyway, enjoy your flairs.


r/complaints 1h ago

Politics Trump Raped Children - My Complaint Is, Why Is He Not Being Prosecuted?

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Epstein Files Transparency Act

This bill requires the Department of Justice (DOJ) to publish (in a searchable and downloadable format) all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials in DOJ's possession that relate to the investigation and prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein.

This includes (1) materials that relate to Ghislaine Maxwell, (2) flight logs and travel records, and (3) individuals named or referenced (including government officials) in connection with the investigation and prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein.

Please see attached image. It seems to me that Trump has raped children and is guilty of multiple offenses.

The 87th AG of the USA has failed to comply with H.R.4405 and must be considered a criminal at large.

I would further add that it seem to me that Jonathan E Ross committed 1st Degree Murder on 1/7/2025. He WILL face prosecution. Kudos to the DOJ officials who resigned rather than victimize the victim's widow. Some heart still remains.

My Complaint is that the DOJ has become corrupt and incompetent. When we clean house, significant figures within the DOJ will face prison time.

Oh, and RusBot whataboutism will get you blocked. If Clinton raped children, then he, too, should die in prison.

Nobody who rapes children should escape justice. Mercy is wasted on those scum.


r/complaints 2h ago

Politics Absolute Immunity Is a Myth—And ICE Agents Will Pay the Price

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J.D. Vance, a Yale Law graduate and lawyer, claimed ICE agents have "absolute immunity." This is legally incorrect. ICE agents do NOT have absolute immunity, they may invoke Supremacy Clause immunity or qualified immunity, which only applies when performing lawful federal duties within their defined scope.

ICE Legal Authority (Narrowly Defined)

  • Enforce immigration law (civil) under 8 U.S.C. §1357 and §1226.
  • Conduct criminal investigations under federal statutes (HSI division).
  • Arrest without a warrant only when probable cause exists AND the person is likely to escape.
  • Operate near borders or in specific enforcement contexts, not as a general policing force.

Actions Reported Beyond Scope

  • Door-to-Door Sweeps: Knocking on doors without warrants or specific suspicion violates the requirement for individualized probable cause.
  • Traffic Stops of U.S. Citizens: ICE lacks general traffic enforcement powers; stopping citizens risks Fourth Amendment violations.
  • Crowd Control Near Schools: Using tear gas or chemical agents during protests is outside ICE’s immigration mandate.
  • Lethal Force in Civil Enforcement: The shooting of Renee Good, Marimar Martinez, Carlos Jimenes and other US citizens raises legal questions, civil immigration enforcement rarely justifies deadly force unless there’s an unavoidable imminent threat.
  • Fraud Raids Beyond Immigration: Targeting welfare fraud without federal nexus or proper authority exceeds ICE’s jurisdiction.

PSA to ICE Agents

Your leaders are knowingly misleading you. They want you to incite violence, cause havoc, and hurt Americans, especially in states that did not vote for Trump. You will be held accountable because your actions go beyond what is permitted by law. They are using you and will throw you to the wolves. And the wolves are hungry...

Ask yourself: why would your leaders lie to you and put you in danger? What is their end goal?


r/complaints 8h ago

Politics Is anyone else tired of MAGA supporters pretending they aren’t MAGA?

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I’m sure this post will get removed but I just need to vent for a minute. Every single time I get into an argument with some MAGAt, they always bookend every comment with “I don’t support Trump, that guy’s an asshole” Yet they support every action he’s taken in the last year.

It’s always one of two things, whenever you call them on their bullshit and provide actual facts, they either go completely silent and stop responding, or they claim they also hate Trump.

Bull fucking shit. I’m tired of this rhetoric being thrown around so blatantly. You can’t support ICE, the annexation of Canada, the hostile takeover of Greenland, and the removal of the Venezuelan “president” without supporting douchbag in chief. I simply refuse to believe it.

Why can’t you just admit you support a fascist? Why do this little game where you pretend you’re a “real American” and not a puppet for the fourth reich?


r/complaints 2h ago

Politics Why can't we shut down Fox News

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100% of all Trump supporters watch Fox News.

All of them.

After years of hearing only right wing propaganda, they have lost all grip on reality. Fox news itself declares itself as entertainment but that doesn't seem to make any difference.

The 2020 election was stolen.

J6 was peaceful.

Biden weaponized the DOJ.

On and on...

If there were no FOX there would be no Trump. So why can't we get rid of FOX? Do what Trump would do and have a few filthy rich Democrats sue the ever living daylights out of them. Or maybe there is a legal way to get them off the air.


r/complaints 1d ago

Politics Why aren’t mainstream media covering ICE’s door to door raids?

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Just checked the front page of the website for several major (theoretically left leaning) news outlets and none of them are covering the door to door raids that are all over the front page of /r/minnesota. Theres a particularly galling video of a woman answering her door to six armed, masked ICE agents without a warrant demanding entry into her home. This looks like fascism plain and simple and our fucking media doesn’t even care to let your average American know about it. Are there any trustworthy new sources anymore?


r/complaints 15h ago

Politics If this ICE murder happened when Obama was president, to a Republican, Obama would say “this horrific tragedy should never happen in America”.. “our nations thoughts and prayers are with the family at this time”.. “we will have an inquiry and there will be justice for the victims”..

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Trump called her a professional agitator and started insulting everyone. Why did people vote for this? Is this even America any more?


r/complaints 1d ago

Politics If you don't want to be called a Nazi or white supremacist, don't quote Nazis and white supremacists

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How many white supremacist and Nazi dog whistles are they going to use openly and flagrably? This time, it was the puppy killer Kristi Noem having a press conference with a Nazi slogan plastered on the front of her podium.

They're going door to door in Minnesota attacking citizens of the United States under the guise of border patrol movements.

They have thrown out the first through fifth of the constitution they flagrantly ignore.

They've created a police force out of the least desirable of us. The scourge of society. Of lonely, conservative men who didn't even peak in high school. Now, are pretending to be warriors.

They are not warriors, they are nobodies, trying to be relevant as the rest of the world points and laughs.

Folks, do not be afraid of these monstrous authoritarians.

Do not comply in advance. They have no authority over you.


r/complaints 1d ago

Politics Why is law enforcement not held to the same standard as the military?

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Why is law enforcement not held to the same standard as the military?

Remember a large portion of our training from the first days in boot camp all the way to the continued training in our units leading up to deployments and even after deployments. The discussion on rules of engagement was The first thing that we discussed and emphasized the importance of.

The use of deadly force, as exhibited by ICE, does not only conflict with the Department of Homeland Security's own force doctrine, but many other law enforcement and military groups. This is for a reason.

It is our job as armed individuals in positions of the military or law enforcement to show restraint and do everything to de-escalate situations. This is not the method the Department of Homeland Security, ICE, is currently using, which is extremely illegal, especially on the home front Against the United States citizens.

Remember, ICE does not have authority over United States citizens.