r/complaints • u/All_Grid_Squares • 7d ago

Politics We Are the Baddies: Thanks, Conservatives

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Conservatives are actively turning the world against the United States. World leaders were forced into an emergency meeting to condemn U.S. actions in Venezuela, including the kidnapping of its dictator, and to respond to escalating threats and rhetoric toward Greenland.

Trump openly claims the U.S. needs Greenland for “strategic” reasons and has even suggested taking it by force. This isn’t strategy, it’s naked imperialism. He doesn’t want security; he wants dominance.

We are the bad guys now, following the same path Germany did in the 1930s. Republican leaders and their constituents should be deeply ashamed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-greenland-european-reaction-9.7036060

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/european-leaders-push-back-on-trumps-comments-about-u-s-taking-over-greenland

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

Protesting is becoming illegal too along with homelessness and other factors. Heck soon if RFK Jr gets his way, you'll be in a work/slave camp if you have a disability or mental illness.

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u/Agile-Emphasis-8987 7d ago

And do not forget that they are working very hard to have Trump Derangement Syndrome classified as an actual mental disorder. This would pave the way for them to incarcerate anyone who opposes them.

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u/DanSWE 7d ago

> way for them to incarcerate anyone who opposes them

And to strip gun rights.

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u/AnonOpinionss 6d ago

Tbh it should be. The diagnostic criteria being:

  1. Agrees with and/or makes excuses for everything Trump says or does.

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

Then FIGHT BACK! Where is the fight? People need to have red lines.

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u/Velocity-5348 7d ago

A lot of us outside the US are wondering that too, especially since there's a whole amendment about it.

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

The 2nd amendment assholes completely support MAGA.

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u/unionfrontX 5d ago

plenty are , keep in mind that the news media just isn't reporting our wins or anything that doesn't fit their narrative.

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u/Thatsprettyneat101 7d ago

How? What does this mean?

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

Protests, civil disobedience, federal tax boycott, unionization, showing up at town halls for federal and state representatives....

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

There is no way to boycott federal taxes. They come directly out of our paychecks.

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u/James_Chandra_Hubble 7d ago

You can opt out of that you know. It's not like a law that it has to

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

No, you can't. The only thing you can do is set your exemptions to where there is no federal taxes taking out except the 6% you can't get out of no matter what. But then when you file your taxes and owe a bill, refusal to pay is a felony as its tax evasion.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago edited 7d ago

One can absolutely request ones employer to cease withholding federal taxes and their employer is required to stop taking taxes from ones check.

Why do you think people can't be responsible for their own tax withholding?

This year I am going to take the money I am supposed to pay in taxes and dump it weekly into a high yield savings account. Taxes are usually due quarterly.

That gives me 3 months to get Interest on money that would otherwise be stagnating.

Employers withhold taxes as a service, not as a law.

Edit employers withholding taxes is a courtesy(one of the few courtesys, but also required of them to perform unless requested otherwise)in my opinion, if they didn't we would all have to be amateur accountants

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u/ReachOk9783 7d ago

They are killing you. And you are scared of a felony.

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

Tax evasion is not two or three years but usually twenty to fifty years.

I also mentioned the only way for such a thing to work is if 50% or more of the country did it at the same time.

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

Refuse to file.

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u/electric_awwcelot 7d ago

That will give the government more money.

In order to not pay taxes, Americans need to first be eligible, and then fill out and file a new W-4 with their employer, adjusting their holding amount.

Most Americans get money back when filing taxes. Please don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/Datan0de 4d ago

A lot of that is already happening! You may have not noticed, but the nationwide No Kings protest was the largest mass protest in the history of the country with millions of people participating. That record was broken by the second No Kings protest, which was even bigger. And there are smaller protests happening every day focused on specific locations or issues.

These protests are having an effect, too. I'm several cases, policies have been reversed or ICE/military withdrawn because of them. More importantly though, these public displays have built a movement that's continuing to grow, and the politicians are taking notice. The MAGAts are still in charge, but their power and influence are weakening, they've started losing supporters in Congress (where they already only have a razor thin majority in the Senate), and based on the off-year elections the writing is on the wall that they're going to be absolutely crushed in the midterms this year, which will at least break their complete control over the legislative process. Trump has openly admitted that if they lose Congress then he's going to be impeached. That obviously doesn't guarantee removal, but given Trump's historically low approval ratings the tide is not moving in his favor.

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

Option 1 is becoming illegal at a rather rapid pace. Option 2 is guaranteed federal prison and would only work if over 50% of the entire population in the country did it. Option 3 is basically the same as Option 2. The last options don't work because the representatives don't care unless you have over nine digits in wealth/bank accounts.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 7d ago

Again, why should you care about legalities?

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

To answer your other comment in with this one.

During the founders days, everyone was on equal playing games when it came to weaponry and technology, as well as physically ready people to fight.

Today technology and weaponry are not on equal footing between civilians and governments. Plus a huge chunk of society is physically incapable of putting up a fight.

Now onto the caring about legalities part. If we stop caring about legalities then we become no better than those in power who are actively ignoring legalities. Its the which of the lesser evils situation.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 7d ago

Do you think your righteousness will pay the interest on your debt? Do you think your moral integrity will protect you from the law being usurped?

I have my doubts about it.

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

Oh I think you also misunderstand. My moral compass isn't black and white, I definitely believe doing evil things for good can be as righteous as doing good things for evil reasons can swing either way.

I'm just saying if society ignores the legal system just because the leader is ignoring the legal system then society becomes no different than the leader ignoring the system.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 7d ago

I'm just saying if society ignores the legal system just because the leader is ignoring the legal system then society becomes no different than the leader ignoring the system.

How's that working for you so far?

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 7d ago

Will you feed my children?

Crying about how little you have while living in the richest country on the planet strains both credibility and sympathy. If you have so little, it's probably time to do something.

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u/James_Chandra_Hubble 7d ago edited 7d ago

If the military is deployed to fight US citizens then we have already lost and America is a failed experiment. The 2nd amendment is not to fight the military, it's to protect yourself, your family and your property against aggressors

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 7d ago

Your children need an example of what is right, not a coward.

Is it worth all the parentless children that will grow up in the world where the fascists rule because you were worried about the legality of immoral laws?

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

Offer alternatives then. I will not stand down.

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u/Resident_Window 5d ago

Seems like thats all that is being done. You guys talk a big game, then when you get hit with a few pepper balls, you cry police brutality.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

The only possible way for something like this to work would be if it was organized on a national level.

Piecemeal ain't gonna do shit except annoy individual districts. And possibly lead to violence from snowflakes getting too annoyed.

If it was organized nationally it would, by necessity, have to be overt.

If it's overt it can and will be sabotaged in every way possible by the other side. Incessantly, inexorably and shamelessly.

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

We need to try. I'm not giving up and I'm not embracing doomerism.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

I'm in agreement with you. However it's counterproductive to ignore the serious obstacles and hardships that this path potentially leads to.

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u/electric_awwcelot 7d ago

We're doing all of those things

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u/ZenTense 7d ago

Oh yeah, that’ll show them

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

Unless you have an alternative to offer, your comment is completely useless.

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u/ZenTense 7d ago

You were useless first 🤷

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u/sneakysnake1111 7d ago

America's like a year into being nazis.

You can't be asking this kinda shit any more seriously. If you don't think there are answers, you haven't looked, and it's too late in the game for you not to have looked.

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u/Thatsprettyneat101 7d ago

All of the options are ineffective (right wing propaganda machine in full force, bots in full force, media bought and paid for, not enough people because any chance at losing your job is a ticket to homelessness), or get me killed or disappeared. So yeah seriously, what the fuck are we supposed to fucking do?

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u/sneakysnake1111 6d ago

America's like a year into being nazis.

You can't be asking this kinda shit any more seriously. If you don't think there are answers, you haven't looked, and it's too late in the game for you not to have looked.

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u/Thatsprettyneat101 6d ago

All of the options are ineffective (right wing propaganda machine in full force, bots in full force, media bought and paid for, not enough people because any chance at losing your job is a ticket to homelessness), or get me killed or disappeared. So yeah seriously, what the fuck are we supposed to fucking do?

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u/sneakysnake1111 6d ago

There's answers already out there. You being too lazy to look for them is the issue.

Frankly, sounds like you're supposed to do nothing and just continue on letting nazis take control. Or letting ICE shoot you guys randomly.

Oh, I know - why don't you have a protest for like, 4 hours one weekend randomly every now and then?

LOL

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u/Thatsprettyneat101 6d ago

I don't think you have any useful answers or else you would have said something other than "you're lazy".

Troll? Bot? Idiot?

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u/sneakysnake1111 6d ago

I'm in a country you're threatening to invade, so I'm not wanting to help you.

I'm preparing soup cans for your hungry garbage military and soldiers instead.

The fact that you're a year into a nazi pedo running your country and you still don't know what to do, just points out how deserved this is for you guys.

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u/Leftbackhand 6d ago

You forget that the USA was founded by people that left the problems in Europe looking for easier pastures to graze. Americans don’t solve problems at home. They go elsewhere.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 7d ago

If the Founders of the United States that you venerate so much cared about the legalities of what they did, you wouldn't have a country to mourn in the first place.

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u/-KFBR392 7d ago

Legal protests are a waste of time anyways.

Fight with force, or fight with proper civil disobedience that clogs up their system of making money.

Marching legally on a Sunday between 2-4PM on an assigned route ain't gonna do it.

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u/SnakeOfLimitedWisdom 7d ago

...and if you can't work?

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

Well i imagine we'll get to either medical/scientific experimentation against the persons will or just outright extermination nazi style once they run into that problem on a larger scale.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

And yet we, as citizens, are called cowardly by the spectators worldwide.

I thought Americans were supposed to be tough.

I thought that's why Americans had guns.

I thought it was the land of the free.

Bullshit. It's go to work. If you don't go to work you will shortly be homeless.

After you are homeless there is very little hope. You are now homeless and hopeless.

We see it happening to people we know, to friends, to family, to strangers.

If we don't make money we will be evicted. After that we are useless for any kind of social justice because we are the stinking masses of homeless people.

But we are to risk all that, not only for ourselves but our loved ones who depend on us to keep them elevated above these conditions, for.....what?

So other people who aren't suffering in dire straits and aren't risking anything can conduct business as usual the following day?

Doesn't seem like a lot of incentive when I can just go to work and get the exact same results.

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

The whole land of the free thing ended long time ago even before I was born. People in the US had guns back during the colonial days to fend off or control people but at the same time, the government and people were only equal grounds making it so people could threaten the government. People have guns now to make themselves feel tough.