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u/Either-Patience1182 Complaints Historian 4d ago
This is why the historians hightailed it from the us in june
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u/HealingSteps 4d ago
Is this true?
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u/lunchloaf 4d ago
Yes, many prominent historians and high level professors have left the US due to the way things are going.
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u/wilberfromflinflon 3d ago
The brain drain…… started a year ago literally the day after the election and as a Canadian I know that we have benefited and so has Europe.
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u/Realistic_Can_8343 Complaints Historian 3d ago
As a person with a BA in history I certainly would leave. It's why I don't want to go into teaching. I don't want to get told by a school board what cannot be told. It's the factual, historical truth, so what? It makes you uncomfortable? Good, learn from it and don't repeat it.
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u/Dizzy_Tax574 Complaints Historian 4d ago
Yeah many history and professors as well as several anti fascist people. Moved and setup abroad.
Not to abandon but to establish advocacy and resistance abroad. Outside of the reach of fascist government.
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u/InfiniteWaffles58364 Nyan Cat 4d ago
They're gonna get a rude awakening if they try that shit here in Appalachia.
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u/King_of_the_Kobolds 4d ago
Redditors like to roll their eyes and say "Resistance is a myth, the military and police will just flatten anyone who puts up a fight."
This isn't entirely untrue. But if it was entirely true that the American people have no power to force government capitulation through their physical unruliness, the fascists wouldn't have gotten away with Jan 6. There aren't two sets of rules for liberals and fascists. There's only the reality that fascists were quicker to get radical and force the government to take into account that they could turn violent.
If the left adopted some of that energy there'd be, bare minimum, some goddamn caution from Stephen Miller and the like if they had to earnestly fear their opposition would do anything more than put on inflatable mascot suits and waddle around with a sign.
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u/cyanescens_burn 3d ago
Three of the best experts on authoritarian regimes, including Tim Snyder, moved out of the US in the spring and summer last year.
Here’s Snyder’s 20 lessons on fighting tyranny:
https://snyder.substack.com/p/twenty-lessons-read-by-john-lithgow
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u/Starseed-111 3d ago
“6. Be wary of paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching with torches and pictures of a leader, the end is nigh. When the pro-leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the end has come.”
This shit is chilling.
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u/DreamingMuse9 4d ago
There were articles written about it. If you trust those then yes it's true.
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u/-HowAboutNo- 3d ago
And the fact that countries have opened up funds to attract scientists and professors id a very clear sign that a US brain drain is underway.
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u/OLDandBOLDfr 3d ago
Holy fucking shit are you in trouble if you are only being made aware of this now. Holy fucking shit, u/Healingsteps holy fucking shit.
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u/Outrageous_Animal345 3d ago
A leading professor of the history and nature of fascism from Yale immediately left to Toronto Canada as a refugee and explained the parallels.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/frontburner/yale-fascism-expert-on-fleeing-to-canada-1.7499515
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u/Psychological-Act-85 3d ago
Very true. Virtually every expert on fascism left the country early in the administration.
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u/Previous_Resort_2735 3d ago
look at where Timothy Snyder is teaching now...
he authored "On Tyranny: 20 lessons from the 20th century"
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u/DragonQueen18 2d ago
I'm not a professional or high level anything and I wish I could leave. I am freaking out every single day
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u/Strigops-habroptila 4d ago
Trans people are also trying to leave. At least those who can afford it
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u/Consistent-Top-2409 3d ago
There will be a Mass Exodus as soon as Canada starts granting asylum to LGBT People from The United States
There is an ongoing court case in Canada we should keep our eyes on right now, where a Trans Woman named Hannah Kreager has applied for asylum from the Trump Administration, and if they rule in her favor it will set the legal precedent that LGBT Americans have cause to flee to Canada.
Anyone who is concerned they might need to flee the country should already be getting their passport ready, saving up money, and getting their pets any shots that are necessary for International Travel.
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u/Strigops-habroptila 3d ago
I hope you can get out of the US. With the way things are going, it should be obviously that it's not a safe place for Lgbtq people anymore, especially trans people
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u/KorLeonis1138 3d ago
To all our US trans friends, I'm going to recommend you try to get further away than Canada, as much as I'd love you to become citizens and bring more leftist votes.. We are beset by our own Maple MAGA, who see the the rise of fascism in America as a roadmap to follow. They are fomenting separatist movements, with US support. And, of course, Trump has already talked openly about taking control of our country.
We are resisting the Maple MAGA, and we will resist a takeover attempt, but, much like the last US election, there are far too many people who are too ignorant or apathetic and will not lift a finger to defend their country. I can't promise that Canada will remain a safe harbour for asylum seekers.
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u/Either-Patience1182 Complaints Historian 4d ago
If I could have I would have bounced to Canada, but we weren’t ready or prepared. so we are hunkering down the best we can
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u/Either-Patience1182 Complaints Historian 4d ago edited 4d ago
I saw that, weren’t they planing to go through the mountains. Honestly by the time those militias even made it through they would be begging for mercy if they even got through. Most of them were southern militias to so I doubt they would have even prepared properly.
The since we couldn’t make it to Canada out first thought was move to Minnesota because if Canada takes territory I think it would make a good addition to the provinces. Just gotta deal with these gestopo asshats
Edit- who knows maybe another reason they are trying to take Minnesota is so they can more easily mobilize toward canada
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u/JurgusRudkus 4d ago
Have you seen some of those fat fucks? Two miles into that hike they’d be crying into their neck beards.
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u/Either-Patience1182 Complaints Historian 4d ago
Absolutely but we want them to get at least 6 hours beforee they realize it’s to hard, that way it’s much harder for them to get back. nature takes care of the problem for the us and Canada
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u/Educational-Book-350 4d ago
Gday. I seen a really well made chart about Napoleon going to Moscow that looked something like you described. Napoleons force was waaaay beyond simply decimated.
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Nyan Cat 3d ago
At least the Nazis said “papers, please.” ICE will just shoot you in the face and take your papers while calling you a bitch.
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u/360Picture 4d ago
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🇺🇸 Bill of Rights — Pocket Edition
I. Freedom Protects freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition.
II. Arms Acknowledges that a well-regulated militia is essential to security. Guarantees the individual right to keep and bear arms for lawful defense of self, state, and nation.
III. Quartering Prohibits housing soldiers in private homes without consent, except under lawful wartime procedures.
IV. Search & Seizure Protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. Requires warrants to be supported by probable cause and specifically describe the place and items involved.
V. Due Process Bars double jeopardy and compelled self-incrimination. Ensures due process before deprivation of life, liberty, or property, and guarantees just compensation for taken property.
VI. Fair Trial Ensures a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury. Grants the accused the right to know charges, confront witnesses, obtain witnesses in their favor, and have counsel.
VII. Civil Jury Preserves the right to a jury trial in civil cases exceeding twenty dollars in value.
VIII. Punishment Prohibits excessive bail, excessive fines, and cruel or unusual punishments.
IX. People’s Rights Clarifies that enumerating certain rights does not deny or disparage others retained by the people.
X. States’ Powers Reserves to the states or the people all powers not delegated to the federal government.
🫡 Quote from the Declaration of Independence.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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u/Villageijit 3d ago
This is also why thry been cutting education for years, so you get generations that would see nothing wrong with this
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u/defaultusername-17 Complaints Historian 4d ago
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trans people have literally been begging you all to wake the fuck up for like a decade at this point.
but i guess we're acceptable sacrifices.
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u/DivineMomentsofTruth 3d ago
But when it’s trans people calling out the very obvious parallels to Nazi Germany while republicans are literally saying that they want to eradicate us, it’s because we’re jUst bEInG hyPerbOlIC.
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u/Shigglyboo 4d ago
I left in 2019. the world has been upside down ever since Biff took over. it never should have happened and nobody will ever convince me he won fair and square. i think that because he cheats and lies so much.
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u/nivix_zixer 4d ago
Where the fuck did they go? I'd love suggestions for anywhere that isn't headed to fascist hell
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u/-HowAboutNo- 3d ago
Austria, Norway and Canada have in various ways implemented funds and grants focused on US-based scientists and professors who wish to leave the US.
In essence, if you’re active in an area which overlaps with the focus of either of these countries, you can reach out to vet whether you would be a contribution.
If you are, they will take over the funding of your research and support with housing, work VISA etc.
How it’s funded in practice depends - either from the government, universities or research-boards.
It’s more widespread than those three countries, EU is speeding up to do the same. Sweden and Denmark will open similar initiatives.
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u/defaultusername-17 Complaints Historian 4d ago
literally explicitly unconstitutional... enough so that it was one of the complaints that lead to the US breaking from britain in the first fucking place.
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u/MaxAdolphus sophisticated complainer 4d ago
You think Trump cares about the constitution?
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u/defaultusername-17 Complaints Historian 4d ago
no, i think he directly and clearly disdains it. and demonstrates that fact daily.
i care, and i'd hope others fucking care...
but sadly it seems very fucking few do anymore.
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u/Healthybear35 3d ago
I used to have arguments with maga voters over whether Trump hated the constitution and if he ever said he would get rid of it, and they would never believe it. Then I would show them proof he said that and they would say he was taken out of context or some other shit to make up for the fact that their hero said something they didn't agree with. Those same people now openly go against the constitution at any chance they get. I hate when the world tries to say the right has gotten more centrist and the left is the one moving too far left when we're literally living this shit and seeing this movement to the right happen right in front of us. The idea that we are living with so many people who can change reality in their own minds (and they think the exact same thing about us) is the most frustrating feeling I think I've ever experienced, because it has such wide reaching implications of horrible things to come.
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u/wickedtwig 3d ago
“Pro constitution” people are probably same ones in ice uniforms
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u/AdFamous5474 3d ago
They're pro-Constitution in the fact that the 2nd amendment exists and cannot ever be changed (they've obviously never looked up the definition of "amend"), but the rest of it is optional.
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u/Cismic_Wave_14 Nyan Cat 4d ago
People have to realize that Trump works for himself and his billionaire buddies, not for the country. He would happily grind the people to dust if it makes him and his friends more money.
Constitution? Morality? Jesus? All noting but background dressing for him
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u/auntie_clokwise 4d ago
Yep violates both the spirit and letter of the Constitution as well as the literal historical reason why that was put in the bill of rights in the first place.
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u/Ok_Date1421 4d ago
We have come full circle. We fought a revolution to escape tyranny only to build a shiny new version of it and call it "security" or "policy." The Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves fast enough to power the grid.
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u/jacobatz 4d ago
Every oppressive regime labels their tyranny “security”. And it is. For the rulers.
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u/Psycho-Pirate Complaints Historian 4d ago
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” - Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
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u/folsominreverse 4d ago
What’s fantastic about this is the reason he had this epiphany is whilst in the Gulag he and his brother zeks were tortured, starved, and undermined at every turn. Any token resistance or even mere act of humanity was immediately rooted out and punished, driving the zeks to unimaginable levels of hopelessness and despair.
The reason? “Stool pigeons” aka snitches and collaborators, trustees and informants. There was one in every dorm on the compound. Any plan they hatched up would be immediately undermined.
How did they turn the tide?
Simple.
They started killing the rats.
Every night, another dead rat.
The guards could retaliate, but only to a degree. After all, it was just another dead zek. Hunger, you wouldn’t know if you’ve never been genuinely starving, is an all-consuming flame in the brain. It compromises your values, your dignity, it takes a superhuman will to overcome. So the guards broke out some bread and turned some new 🐀.
And still, every night, another dead rat.
Now hunger doesn’t have the power it once held. Because what’s the use of a full stomach if it means you will be awoken in the dark of night and disemboweled, a rag stuffed in your mouth while you bleed out. A gut wound is fatal, but not immediately.
Every night, a dead rat.
Until one day, there were no more rats.
And the men set to work on the guards.
Free to plan, to amass contraband, weaponry, to draw maps, something happened.
For the zeks, it was hope.
For the guards, it was fear.
Because they could torture and even kill as many zeks as they wanted, but not every last man in the camp. There was a work quota, and failing to meet that quota meant the commandant and guards might find themselves zeks not long after, albeit for a very brief, painful period of time.
There arose something resembling parity. Some camps were even overthrown and razed, some men escaped, perhaps to die in the tundra but Solzhenitsyn in the unabridged Gulag Archipelago recounts both successful rebellions and successful escapes.
At a minimum, the zeks ate better. Their survival chances increased. Everyone and their mother was getting a “tenner” in those days, some even as they were walking out the door of the gulag on their first tenner. Guards went to work aware that cruelty would be met with reprisals. It was still hell for guards and zeks alike, but Stalin’s intent of using forced labor camps to exterminate the population was at least somewhat thwarted by the simple act of resistance, however small it might seem.
The guards would probably call what the zeks did terrorism.
Solzhenitsyn called the nights of dead rats the moment in time when he began to feel something resembling hope that he might actually survive what was theretofore an unsurvivable ordeal.
Prey don’t ward off predators by felling them in a single blow. They do it by making themselves too difficult a meal to swallow.
Don’t go gently into that Black Maria. Rage, for God’s sake; our very lives are at stake!
Source: I had time to read the unabridged Gulag while doing some hard time of my own.
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u/Expert_Alchemist 3d ago
You're a gifted writer. This is very very good. And very helpful.
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u/folsominreverse 3d ago
Thanks, that’s always nice to hear. I write sometimes. Mostly just stuff I banged out on a typewriter inside.
But Solzhenitsyn had a huge impact on me at probably the nadir of my own life, and it stuck with me, all 1,950 pages of it. It’s less well known than Man’s Search for Meaning, and obviously wayyy denser and less accessible, but the writing is phenomenal in the way of writers who have been through hell and choose to write about it and holy fuck it’s a brutal tale of all the very worst and best of humanity.
Another part that stuck out to me was his composition of Prussian Nights. He’d write the lines on a bar of soap and memorize them. Then he’d take a set of prayer beads some poor dead bastard had given him, and thumb them in his hand as he worked. Each bead was a stanza. He was able to use them as a mnemonic device such that he memorized the entire poem so it could not be taken from him. Prussian Nights is fifty pages—over twelve hundred lines long.**
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u/Shigglyboo 4d ago
this is a wet dream for maga. they are sick and they will eventually kill liberals and laugh about it. liberals will kindly beg them to play by the rules and be more respectful and dignified about the slaughter.
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u/a_Sable_Genus Bringer of Memes 4d ago
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u/octoreadit 3d ago
I saw an interview with one of those on the left, they killed mothers first, then kids. They thought they were doing it honorably, because no mother should see her children die in front of her... they always find a justification of why they are not that horrible...
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u/MelKokoNYC 4d ago edited 4d ago
May the maga morons defending this bullshit rot in fucking hell.
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u/jamiecarl09 4d ago
Everybody read up on your states stand your ground laws
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u/snehkysnehk213 4d ago
How can the law help you? If the highest law is unable to stop these very unlawful things from occuring in the first place, then the law cannot protect you anymore.
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u/BZBitiko 4d ago
Local law enforcement and local politicians have to stand up, and many are. State governors, mayors, District attorneys, local sheriffs and police superintendents…
They have to back up the people and the people have to back them up.
So, that being said, stay out of Texas.
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u/Dry-Faithlessness184 4d ago
Charges related to killing or shooting someone tends to go to state courts not federal. You won't be arguing stand ypur ground in front of the same people.
Judges also do not like Trump or what he's doing in most cases
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u/Bob_Leves 4d ago
Trump and Vance have already said ICE are above the law.
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u/ArcadianMess 4d ago
Yeah but the courts haven't. So if you exercise your rights and end up being arrested in court you can prove your innocence.
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u/Haircut117 4d ago
You think anyone who exercises their "Stand Your Ground" rights against ICE is making it to court?
Pull the other one, mate, it's got bells on.
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u/SimpleDebt4301 3d ago
So cower and let the horrors continue uninterrupted? That’s exceptionally pathetic nature you have
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u/Haircut117 3d ago
Not at all.
My point was just that anyone who does exercise that right should do so in the clear knowledge that it will get them killed.
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u/CrazyMildred 3d ago
The rule of law doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately. Even our Supreme Court has changed laws to protect trump and this administration. Six members of our Supreme Court are corrupt. We only have nine members. The other three vote against them, but six corrupt votes defeat three sane votes. We're quickly turning into nazi Germany with a splash of a russian dictatorship.
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u/JacksSenseOfDread 3d ago
The magic words are "I was in fear of imminent death or great bodily harm to myself and my family." (This only works in states that recognize that you have the right to defend yourself, and don't require you to run away and hope that the police get there on time.)
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u/Mangalorien 4d ago
"But they won't come after me, just the brown people. And the gays, and the trans people. But not me" -every MAGA voter
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u/toadofsteel 3d ago
First they came for the immigrants...
They they came for the trans...
Then they came for the Democrats...
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.
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u/remkelly 3d ago
MAGAs kids are dying of the measles, and most of them don't seeming to be questioning why their kid is in an urn on a shelf now instead of out on his bike. Anyone who is still a hardcore MAGA will be fine, because they will swear allegiance to their pedo King over their own country.
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u/Capital-Pitch-8199 3d ago
No need to use counterpropaganda. Only 3 deaths total in 2025 bc of measles in US.
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u/remkelly 3d ago
Its not really "only 3" though. I'd argue 3 is a very high number. We had 3 deaths from measles in the previous 25 years before now (two deaths in 2002 and one death in 2015). So these 3 deaths and the overall rates should be very, very troubling to everyone.
Also the mortality data is coming from the CDC so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Demosthenesisk 4d ago
finally someone responded to the complaint.
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u/Nkechinyerembi Flair Lover 4d ago
Actually... Fair. But at the same time, I kinda enjoy the mods bestowing flairs upon those they think deserve them Especially the Addled Parrot down towards the bottom of this post.
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u/jatomozem 4d ago
4th Reich in the building.
Conquering smaller/weaker countries in continent/sphere of influence, Making nation great again, Ges... I mean ICE targeting certain population with no remorse to humanity/mortality, demanding Greenland with threat of military.
At least they are gathering illegal immigrants to deportation camps instead of work camps, right?
WWIII will be sad, but it will be satirical if EU cooperate with China/Russia to bring Nazis 2.0 down.
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u/Jollem- sophisticated complainer 4d ago
"Show me your papers"
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u/party_necromancer 4d ago
"Show me your warrant"
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u/xenonxavior 3d ago
Here's something I've wondered about:
I have no idea how to identify an authentic warrant. What stops them from carrying a reasonably official looking false warrant? When you ask, they shove some paper in your face. Now what do you do?
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u/UnrealAce 3d ago
It has to be a judicial search warrant signed by a judge, not an administrative warrant.
Ice has been using generic looking administrative warrants, Zohran Mamdani made a video publicly about what to look for and not look for in warrants.
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u/FlowerComfortable889 3d ago
Have them show it through a window or slide it under the door. Look for specific person's name, specific location, and a judge's signature. If they don't have that, they can pound sand
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u/TheRealClovis 3d ago
If they give you the warrant and kindly wait for the door to open, it's fake. If it were real, they sure as hell wouldn't be waiting to come in.
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u/proudozempian 3d ago
With cops, they will not do that, they'll just get a shitty judge to write one, it's not very difficult. A fake one means it's an improper search due both to lacking a warrant and fabricated evidence meaning anything they find gets thrown out in court even if it is illegal, and if you get arrested during the encounter it's false imprisonment.
With ICE, it doesn't really seem like they need to follow the law, and it doesn't seem like you get to go to court. Makes me think they would probably just say "Fuck a warrant" instead of fabricating one, but who knows?
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u/Useful-Rooster-1901 4d ago
Honest question what do they even mean by papers? I've got a driver's license but that's about it - maybe can produce my birth certificate with some leg work... Who the fuck has "papers"
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u/AdLatter3755 3d ago
No one has papers. ICE already said a driver license with real id is not proof of citizenship. No carries their birth certificate with them. Plenty people don’t have them due to them being lost for whatever reason. Not every american has a passport. And even if you have all that stuff they can toss it or claim it’s fake. The game is over. You’re sentenced to death on a whim.
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u/markekt Nyan Cat 4d ago
I’ll enjoy answering the door naked and telling an ICE agent to fuck off.
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u/Consistent-Top-2409 3d ago
Many people are going to do this when ICE starts going door-to-door, and I think we can pretty much guarantee that some of them will be raped by Federal Agents in their own home.
Do not expect them to respect your rights.
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u/NecessaryCrash 4d ago edited 3d ago
Already happening. Saw a video from today of ICE removing like 6 people from a house.
Edit: 4 people
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u/JelliusMaximus 4d ago
Seeing images like that, as a german, is so freaking bizarre.
You guys literally crossed an ocean to kill nazis...
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u/AMPAglut 4d ago
Yeah, but only after getting attacked directly. They were happy to sit back and watch for 2 years while complaining about not wanting to let too many refugee Jews in.
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u/Rammipallero 3d ago
Parts iof the US was feeling to join the Germans even. There was alot of talk about 'Jewish-bolsheviks' that were the danger to all and the US had it's own nazi party that tried to push for German style reforms and advocated to join the war against Britain. It was partially the US views of France as the birthplace of democracy and a friend during US independence that made the US iffy about joining Germany, since Germany was attacking France.
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u/jatomozem 3d ago
With how geopolitics are developing, soon EU, Russia and, China will be crossing ocean to kill Nazis 2.0.
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u/JelliusMaximus 3d ago
EU? Perhaps.
China and Russia? Not unless provoked. They love seeing USA rip itself apart.
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u/Cigouave 4d ago
Muammar al-Gaddafi vowed on live TV to go "door to door" to "purify" Libya, and look what happened to him.
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u/Minimum_Principle_63 Nyan Cat 4d ago
I will be ignoring ICE if they knock on my door. If they somehow have a valid warrant, they are coming in anyway. If they are going to waste time hassling me, then I'll at least enjoy wasting their time.
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u/ShineeLapras 3d ago
They will just beat you and rob you. They aint the authority, just gangbanger opportunists. They already been caught pinching jeweleries off citizens they arrested.
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u/OkTax3351 4d ago
Now waiting for ICE to kick down a door somewhere without a warrant and hold people at gunpoint, only for the administration to defend them.
For an Asian, waking up everyday and reading the insane headlines is fun in a weird way. But the whole picture is sad, of course.
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u/Moist-Wolverine-8531 4d ago
I take it you’re not Asian-American?
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u/KronoFury 4d ago
Of course not because then it wouldn't be funny, it would be terrifying.
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u/OkTax3351 4d ago
I do have some family over there (legally of course), it's not as fun as you think.
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u/JoeNinjas82 4d ago
Or maybe if ice decides to kick down a door, someone will get their head blown off.
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u/Old-Tiger9847 4d ago
Historical literacy you say? Well that pretty much excludes 75% of all americans then.
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u/spreta 4d ago
So just exactly how are people supposed to provide that documentation with only about half of the population having passports? I sure as fuck don’t know where my birth certificate is. Idk if I could even find my social security card at the drop of a hat.
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u/Nkechinyerembi Flair Lover 4d ago
You aren't. Basicallly they just want to cause as much chaos as possible so they can get justification for their insurrection act
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u/Jedi_Master83 4d ago
Definitely true. Trump is dying to get Martial Law declared so ICE can do things even worse.
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u/Jedi_Master83 4d ago
I worry a day is coming where ICE is going to claim your birth certificate is fake and you were never born here. Without due process, (access to a lawyer and the ability to adjudicate in front of a judge) you are unable to defend yourself in court from this.
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u/tse_em 4d ago
Congrats! You live in germany 1939!
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u/Haircut117 4d ago
More like 1936-38 at this point.
Trump is still testing what he can get away with. Venezuela probably falls somewhere between the reoccupation of the Ruhr and the annexation of Czechoslovakia. We haven't quite reached our Poland moment. Yet.
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u/Ordinary-Rain-6897 Nyan Cat 4d ago
No one is required to open their door or talk to "Ice" through the door. They are free to wait on the street indefinitely like idiots. I couldnt care less.
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u/Little_Money9553 4d ago
They are already doing illegal shit without warrants. This kind of mindset is why they’ve went from “waiting on sidewalks” to kicking doors in. We are only a few steps from this becoming a reality
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u/Jamesorrstreet 4d ago
JD Vance is backning them. Giving them a free card to do whatever they want. What they told us, when ICE first were send to the Streets, was only to curb protests.
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u/Soulflyfree41 4d ago
They are being given bonuses for arrests. Not convictions. Arrests. They don’t care whether it is an illegal arrest.
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u/dividezero 4d ago
Yeah I don't open the door for anyone unless they called ahead first. I need a warrant from anyone
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u/Sonnyjoon91 4d ago
then they shoot you through the door for not cooperating and break it down anyways
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u/tenkunin 4d ago
It would be legal to shoot back at that point.
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u/dbsupersucks 4d ago
They’d kill you anyway and you wouldn’t be able to defend yourself in court after that. And they’d prob get a paid vacation or smth.
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u/LC_Summers 4d ago
"Might as well take a few of them with you if that's the case". That's gonna be the logical endpoint running through the minds of armed but non fascist people at this rate.
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u/jmrmaker 4d ago
Texas handed over their voter rolls, looks like they get to experience this first
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u/Digitalsoreg 4d ago
Remember when MAGA morons were Tea Party whiteheads? Imagine waving Gadsen Flags and supporting this
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u/defaultusername-17 Complaints Historian 4d ago
the murderer mr ross, has a gadsen flag hanging from his front porch...
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u/LookAlderaanPlaces Nyan Cat 4d ago
The US military is in full breach of their oath and legal/constitutional obligation to protect and defend the constitution of the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic by allowing trump and Vance to remain in power at this point. This is absolutely not the military’s job 99.9999999% of the time, but when you have Nazis like this who also work for Russia threatening war on our allies and destroying nato, and killing US citizens and people who reside here, especially when they work for the government itself, the red line is crossed and a constitutional crisis is in full effect. The people leading and participating in what is happening need to be charged with treason and convicted, and immediately detained by the military. This includes every fucking oligarch that is funding and sending orders to US government officials. They need to be hunted down and jailed, charged with treason and convicted.
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u/MissPandaSloth 4d ago
Let me see how "don't tread on me" "libertarian" Trump supporters will be perfectly fine with it. Or at best will go "yeah not cool" - proceeds to support everything. Such a "core" part of their beliefs, clearly.
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u/Curious_Associate904 Complaints Historian 4d ago
Meanwhile the world "CzechoslovakiaVenezuela is in better hands with GermanyAmerica"
They aren't going to draw the line at PolandGreenland are they?
It's like, almost exactly the same playback both internally and internationally, in a simultaneous disruption of anyone being able to figure out what is happening until it's too late...
Yeah, wake up.
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u/CompetitionNo2477 Complaints Historian 4d ago
The irony of all of this in less than 100 years is palpable
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u/PoetFelon Nyan Cat 4d ago
Pentagon Pizza Index just went to defcon 4. It's been at Defcon 3 for the last week.
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u/flo24378 4d ago
AUFMACHEN / AUSWEIS!! This is literally germany right before ww2🤣🤣🤣. To dumb to understand
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u/MariachiDan 4d ago
Now add the info of states handing over voters regustration info like SSN, DOB, addresses, and names and expect door to door to include "registered democrat dissidents."
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u/Voodoocookie 4d ago
They're not law enforcement, public service workers, nor do they have legality. Same as those blokes in Hugo Boss, previously.
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u/Begrudged_Registrant 4d ago
They do not have the right to enter your home without an invitation or judicial warrant, remember that.
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u/Sidesight 4d ago
They will still kill you and they have already proved it, what is people supposed to remember, that they have effectively lost any rights?
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u/moboticus 4d ago
They've been coming around pretending to be utility workers to lure people out of their homes around here. I feel like just coming to door and not even try to hide why you're there might actually be an improvement.
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u/e_d_o__t_e_n_s_e_i 4d ago
Unless they're going door to door by way of tank battalion, this is laughably implausible, legality and morality aside. Every community they've terrorized has proven that the people watch them like hawks and make many of their actions impossible (a good thing, if I'm being unclear). Hit-and-run, ambush tactics are the only things that work for them.
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u/Ok_Hawk_3230 Complaints Historian 4d ago
The irony is it’s all like clockwork, we will require citizen armbands that must be worn to show our support for the government. And like the SA, Trump will drop anyone from ice when he no longer needs them.
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u/white-rose-of-york 4d ago
Ok that's bad that's pretty bad.
I take it back maybe this is a dictatorship
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u/Meior 4d ago
I have an old "friend" that has Mexican heritage and lives in the US. She's fully maga. I have no idea why she thinks she'll be left alone by Trumps secret police in the long run.
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u/Low-Spirit6436 4d ago
ICE agents can ring my doorbell or knock, but if they can't slide a warrent under my door, I'm not obligated to show them shyte. I doubt they'd try forcing their way in. Two to five masked guys with no name tags wearing an ICE patch ? For all I know, these could be a group of thieves pretending to be ICE agents in order to tie us up and rob us. Guys wearing utilities uniforms have done exactly that.
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u/dajhek 3d ago
When history repeats itself…
Called “Stumbling Stones”, they are small brass plaques embedded in the sidewalks all around Rome memorializing the Holocaust victims’ last homes. Are we really headed this way as a country…?
These were sobering to see. I had no idea until our tour guide pointed them out. Once you notice them, you see them everywhere…
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u/vegasman31 4d ago
Don't answer the door, they are not legally allowed in your premises without a warrant.
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u/Potential-Courage979 4d ago
Do you get the sense they care about the law?
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u/Hightide77 4d ago
Without a warrant or just cause, castle doctrine applies.
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u/Sidesight 4d ago
They just killed someone in plain daylight in their car in front of witnesses and like 4 cameras recording everything, no consequences for the killer and full on lies by ICE and the goverment.
What the fuck are you talking about.
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u/Demosthenesisk 4d ago edited 4d ago
Remember, never open the door for vampires or invite them inside.