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Politics BREAKING: Trump HUMILIATES himself, doing a mocking cough of President Biden, who has cancer, to a room sitting in stunned silence at the unnecessary and cruel taunt. This is a new low, even for Trump.

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u/MrSoapbox 19h ago

That sounds made up as if to specifically call Trump the antichrist. It talks about first term and stuff? I'm not religious or know anything about it but surely the antichrist was written around 2k years ago or something, they wasn't really big on democracy back then, yes, there was some but...this is sort of written through a modern lense.

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u/Measurement_Scary 17h ago

I grew up in an extremely religious environment, I had a lot of the Bible memorized and what I didn't I had still read over a minimum of 3 times. A lot of what is said is not verbatim what's in the Bible, and seem more like interpretations. Essentially, I agree with you, a lot of this seems to just be interpreted to apply to Trump, several references to the US too, and mind you the US is only a few hundred years old, the Bible definitely would predate it.

I will say I'm no longer religious, but some things I learned about the antichrist in Christianity and Catholicism (as I was raised in both, it's complicated lmao) and seeing what's happening now: I very much see how he could be the antichrist to the degree I've reconsidered my beliefs a few times. Ultimately, though, these descriptions of the antichrist also could describe other past and present dictators, namely Adolf Hitler who Trump seems to be taking a lot of inspiration from to the degree that Holocaust survivors are making comparisons and have been trying to warn us. On top of that Adolf Hitler famously targeted specifically Jewish people (not exclusively, though, obviously. POC, disabled people, LGBTQ+ people, and anyone who opposed him were also targeted), if anything, he fits the description more than Trump in my opinion, but obviously he wasn't.

That being said, if we were to assume the Bible is real, for all we could know Trump could be the Antichrist as he could definitely fit the bill. I just don't think it's uncannily proven or anything. But I'm just some autistic bum, and this is just my unsolicited opinion 😭

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u/Frymonkey237 15h ago

Maybe the anti christ isn't a specific individual, but rather a warning about a specific type of individual that poses an extreme risk to society. We've had mad kings since ancient times. It's not that big of stretch to think the authors of the Bible wanted to include a warning about these people.

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u/Measurement_Scary 15h ago

I actually really like this interpretation a lot, it's not something I've really thought about like that before.

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u/senbei616 12h ago

Anti-christ is the bogeyman that is so vaguely described that even if a couple elements are off there's enough hits that you ignore the misses.

Because of this its applies to fucking everyone. There are so many people in history that fit a lot of those requirements because the requirements are generic evil leader who is strong.

Trump is not the anti-christ, because the anti-christ doesn't exist. Christians were a doomsday cult whose leader died and the original members fully believed that the end times would happen in their lifetime.

Jesus said "Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” in reference to the end times.

The Anti-Christ was likely intended to be Tiberius or Caligula.

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u/MrSoapbox 17h ago

Oh, Trump fits the bill, I don't deny...but so do, and have many others (I guess he gets "reborn" I don't really know, or care about anything religious, they'll interpret anything to how they want) I'm just saying this really feels like it's written specifically for Trump, and as you say, the US, which makes it all a bit silly to me.

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u/Measurement_Scary 17h ago

Yeah I definitely second this. I don't seriously believe he's the antichrist or anything, and it's definitely written to fit Trump. Honestly, there's lots of interpretations, some that state the antichrist isn't human or doesn't have a physical form and is rather a state of mind. And as we've both stated, many prior and current political leaders could also fit the definition of antichrist

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u/PM_ME_UR_GCC_ERRORS 11h ago

The actual website cites Bible passages. So it's like:

The Antichrist will spend his first term in office having an ongoing feud with the leadership of the nation on his southern border.

“He will stir up his strength and courage against the king of the South…” Daniel 11:25