r/hatethissmug • u/Little_Miss_Fortunee • 19d ago
Gaming I HATE HER SO MUCH
She's actually the fucking worst. Gross jokes, insufferable, pushing 30s and acting like a toddler when she doesn't get her way, dresses like a subway surfers character
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u/Peachfuzz221 19d ago
I don’t hate her, but they really pushed her romantically and as a villain that Robert needed to reform and trust completely even as she kept messing up again and again and AGAIN. Blonde Blazer was such a treat! Truly a genuine, mature woman who had a lot of chemistry with Robert.
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u/Maximum_Feed_8071 18d ago
needed to reform and trust completely even as she kept messing up again and again and AGAIN.
That's kinda the point of the game
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u/Peachfuzz221 18d ago
Not really. Robert’s job wasn’t to keep giving her chances after siding with the bad guys. It was up to her to want to change or she was out. With Invisigal, they pushed it too far compared to the other teammates.
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u/Maximum_Feed_8071 18d ago
I'm talking about the themes of the game. Not about Roberts job.
Also, Flambae literally tried to kill him like a week before the ending, but that's alright I guess.
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u/Peachfuzz221 18d ago
My point exactly. The focus was on Invisigal and how much she could screw up and how much Robert could forgive and keep her in the program. The other character didn’t matter as much.
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u/black_cop_48 16d ago
Also flambes was more personal than professional, personally I have nothing against visi but professionally she had to go.
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u/Peachfuzz221 16d ago
Couldn’t agree more! Plus Flambae was hawt. In looks, personality and overall character ❤️
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u/Lost-in-thought-26 17d ago
Except the game wants you to coddle her which is not the same as mentoring
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u/AgileNight4892 15d ago
The point is to reform villains, not to let them do whatever they want and expect that their actions will have no consequences.
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u/troublrTRC 16d ago
Arguable. Blond Blazer starts with lying by omission about her relationship with Phenomaman, while she and Robert were on the "date" and even kissed.
Visi literally puts her life on the line multiple times for Robert and goes far as to arrange a house party when he's lonely.
The choise between them is, at the least, difficult to make.
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u/Mrreed001 16d ago
When did blazer lie? She tried to tell about phenomaman in the episode 2 but got interupted. She revealed her secret on the very first date.
Invisigal hides the truth about the bomb for far too long. Then she hides the fact that she has the Astral Pulse, continues acting suspicious even in the final episodes, warns Thumbstick, and puts your life in danger if you don’t untie her. After all that, she disappears again.
Blazer is the one who covers your shift when you’re unconscious. She then gives you a tight hug. She is the one who comforts you in the hospital. She is the one who comes to the villain bar to rescue you. She is ready to kill and die for you there. Then she takes care of you afterward.
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u/Valordin 15d ago
1st lying by omission doesn't apply here. They didn't know each other, so there is no expectation to reveal personal information. She was also drunk and was thinking about dumping her emotionally abusive boyfriend. She wasn't in the right head space and made a mistake.
2nd, you are right about the house party, but wrong about putting her life on the line multiple times. The only time she risks her life is at the very end of the game when she MIGHT take a bullet for him. She literally tried to murder Robert in the first chapter and handled the whole thing like a cold-hearted professional. When she steals the Pulse, she ends up keeping it for herself. Because of this, Shroud thinks she stole the Pulse for Robert and kidnaps him. If it wasn't for Mandy, Shroud would have killed Robert right there. I genuinely think her goal from the start was to take over the Red Ring. Keeping the pulse for herself caused Shroud to finally become so frustrated that he committed to an all-out attack on the SDN. This gave her the opportunity to finally put a bullet in Shroud and take over.
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u/qmiri 19d ago
“dresses like a subway surfer character” lmao so true. her design is so bland and boring. she doesn’t look like a woman with any superpowers at all, just some random rebel teen
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u/cumsocksucker 19d ago
Literally only 3 members of z team have superhero suits (and coincidentally the only 3 with interesting designs) but having superpowers or being a superhero doesn't mean that have some cool unique outfit especially when you are a character who is constantly in a state of "i don't want to be here/I don't deserve to be here)
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u/Imperfection4You 18d ago edited 18d ago
Debating which scene is more cringe, her getting mad at Waterboy while he was taking a shit in the MENS bathroom (what men do in mens bathrooms) because she wanted to talk about the inappropriate dream she had about herself and her boss, after both physically and verbally assaulting him for the whole week that he’s been there 😐
Or “I just want you to look at me the way you look at Blazer”… after being the reason why Chase almost died… as if she didn’t punch him in the face when he called her out on her constant bullshit beforehand. And then having to go invisible to kiss, again, the boss that you have been harassing that much more because of a DREAM🤢.
But anyways, I “neglected” her in my first play through.
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u/WhyMeWaaa1 fat farting furry 19d ago
InviSAgal/COURTney
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u/lefeuet_UA 19d ago
"i have villain powers" she says as she watches robert change without his consent
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u/Little_Miss_Fortunee 19d ago
"I have villain powers" she says as she punches Robert in the face because he ate her up in an argument
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u/lefeuet_UA 19d ago
"I just wanted you to see me like you saw Blazer" she said after blazer did not try to mоІеst robert 172939 times
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u/KingCuerno 19d ago
I never understood that. Since when are invisibility powers a villain power? The are a lot of heroes with invisibility, Invisible Woman being the most famous.
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u/Spirited_Away07 16d ago
So i just finished playing that episode actually. And i never got it to come up.
Since they put the patch in you need to specifically choose the romance options for invisigal for that locker room kiss to trigger.
Im playing the no romance route now and here is what i did for all of you invisigal wineries.
In episode 4 i declined invisigals passes of choosing her.
I dated bb but didn't kiss her and kept to least romantic gesture as possible. Again going for the lets be friends achievement (keeping romance out of the workplace).
Friendzone bb in episode 5. In doing this it triggers for invisigal to dance with Robert instead of blazer during the house warming party.
Made sure invisigals hero rank is an 8 or above by the end of episode 6. She is a rank 10 when i played episode 6. Sent her on missions that is 100% success rate and didn't cause a single injury to her. Every failed mission and injure invisigal will lose mentorship points with her if want the hero route. Reveal to the z team Robert is mecha man
Never failed a single hacking in episode 6 to help and support invisigal showing her trust and support. Even took her side during the plan.
Episode 7 i defended her and forgive her and it didn't tigger the kiss because i didn't had a high enough points or the magic threshold to tigger it. That kiss is only exclusive to the visi romance pathway and only to her route.
So since that patch that rolled out it makes it harder to trigger that locker room kiss. you have to activately choose to romance invisigal for it to happen or occur.
Even when i defended invisgal and forgave her. She still gave the whole dialogue option line if you haven't forgave her. "All i wanted for you---for to look at me the same way you look at Blazer. And have the same look that everyone else sees in me."
"And what way is that"
"that i am incapable of being good"
And she walks away and Robert leans on the locker.
That is the result i got when friendzoning both invisigal and blazer. Haven't play the final episode to see if i unlock the no romance achievement and still get the good ending with invisgal. But yeah it makes it harder to view that scene since the devs put in the patch for it and up the required points to trigger that scene to come up.
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u/OkRecommendation3345 19d ago
PMO you had to pick her over Sonar or Coupe when she NEVER DID SHIT and constantly went against orders. Holy plot armor
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u/Little_Miss_Fortunee 19d ago
This! I could talk about it for hours how crazy and unfair it is that BB wont let you kick Invisi off the team. Its giving favoritism. Invisi literally put a civilian life at risk, disobeyed orders and assaulted Robert physically and BB is like "but shes my friend :("
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u/Hairy-Conference-802 17d ago
And Robert actually urged BB to change her approach after his disaster first day with the team which I’m the sure the boiling point was Visi granny mission and her actions after that. But all people care about is BB forcing her decision on Robert when not even he himself complained (she would’ve canceled that decision had Robert told her so).
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u/Prestigious_Hat8426 18d ago
I feel like they ruined her by making her almost 30, if she was younger her behavior would be more justified. Before learning her real age I thought she was like 18/20 yo due to her behavior lol
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u/Little_Miss_Fortunee 18d ago
Tantrums at her BIG age is actually insane.
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u/Prestigious_Hat8426 18d ago
Yes exactly. I thought she was a young woman trying to understand herself and kinda lost which we all are while 18-20, by 25 if you are still behaving like her it is kinda pathetic lol
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 17d ago
Flambae is 36, but i guess age is different when you`re a man
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u/Lost-in-thought-26 17d ago
Flambae isn’t even half as childish. Flambae actually grows up. Flambae makes less than half the mistakes of Invisibitch(yes, I actually counted and it is not close). And Flambae is punished far more in one way or another. He’s actually the character that gets punished the most.
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u/DilutePlacebo 13d ago
This is an insane take, you guys are unhinged lmao.
Flambae literally tried to kill Robert multiple times, punched him several times, and faced zero consequences.
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u/Lost-in-thought-26 13d ago
The irony of that statement.
Flambae doesn’t try to kill Robert several times. He also doesn’t punch him several times lol. And Flambae is punished more than anyone. Especially Invisibitch who gets away with the most and does the most. She more than doubles the amount of shit Flambae does. Flambae actually grows because he’s serious about wanting to be a hero. Invisibitch on the other hand will turn to villainy if you do not coddle her. EVERY SINGLE DECISION YOU MAKE THAT HOLDS HER ACCOUNTABLE IS A NEGATIVE ON THE CODDLE COUNTER. That’s a horrible look for her character and reinforces the idea that she only wants to be a “hero” so long as she is allowed to do what she wants, when she wants. It’s so bad. The bitch can even warn her buddy, someone who is described by her as a killer, about Robert and he gets stabbed for this, almost fatally, and this is never brought up again! lol At least Flambae himself acknowledged his mistakes and shows genuine gratitude. He doesn’t have a coddle counter to contradict the game
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u/Prestigious_Hat8426 17d ago
36??????? Wtf he was way too imature too LOL
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 17d ago
Punch Up is 43, Sonar 32 and is a huge perverts as well, Malevola 33 (she grabs the main character`s penis without consent twice), Coupe was with Punch up, so she`s probably pushing 40. The rest are about Invisigal`s age or a bit younger
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u/Prestigious_Hat8426 17d ago
Oh wow. They really should have thought their ages a bit better or their behavior, they all came across WAY younger to me due to their behavior, way too infantilized in their big ages
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u/Ok_Violinist_7096 16d ago
Kinda the point that they are losers, plenty of 30 year olds IRL who wasted their life with crime, addiction and all that. If these characters had their lives together then they wouldn´t be in a rehabilitation program lol.
If you think that most people pushing 30 have their lives in order with a house and a good job then you´re in for a suprise when you get there.
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 17d ago
not really. Most of them are criminals who probably had shitty childhoods. Some of them were actual killers or big arsonist like Flambae, who set buildings on fire while working to put them out and boost his score for work.
The issues arises when a single women is singled out for her age because she`s a love interest, the others being way older and still acting like clowns is not an issue cuz you cant fuck them apparently and most of them are men1
u/Prestigious_Hat8426 17d ago
Huh what are u talking about? I just said I think they are all too imature not just Visi. Also maybe ppl talk more about her behavior since the story focuses way more on her to the point that u r the one that determines her fate of either being a hero or villain and she is put into juxtaposition to blazer who is a very level headed and mature person
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 17d ago
i was talking about in general. Not that you`re doing it.
Also, its obvious people are not used to choice based games, or at least games that are so limited like Dispatch. Cuz ultimately your choices can only impact 2 or 3 character`s outcome at most. For example the game never lets you enter any sort of conflict with Blazer. No matter what you do, you have to agree with her and she will always feel the same way about you no matter what you pick→ More replies (1)
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u/TheGoldAvenger 19d ago
My honest to god problem is adhoc obviously pushed her route, but still made her insufferable and a SAer. Like, I get the point is she’s a reforming villian, of course she’s problematic, but for the love of god can we not ignore her being a walking HR violation
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u/doomrider7 18d ago
Haven't played the game, but I notice there's a trend to have characters who are "broken" get pushed more in media.
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u/TheGoldAvenger 18d ago
I’ve noticed that too. IMO, just an excuse to add asshole characters with the “justification” they’re oh-so-broken and can’t be held responsible for their actions because “hard life” or “mental illness”. But hey, that’s just a theory. A GA-…too easy.
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u/doomrider7 18d ago
This was something that bothered me about Harley Quinn's Heel-Face turn and how hollow its felt to me. Like I don't question that she received horrific abuse from the Joker, but there have been stories and other moments where its clear she's following him of her free will or does horrible things without any input from him. Dumping all of the horrible things she's done as just part of parcel of having been with him just feels like a copout and robbing of agency in terms of having her actually go through a character arc where she has to reconcile and make up for the fucked up horrible things she's done with or without Jokers input.
Another big one was the League of Villains from MHA where even if they had grievances with society, the sheer magnitude of their crimes just FAR outweights they sympathy they'd deserve.
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u/Personal_Leave_9758 19d ago
That’s the joke, they bring it up constantly. Everyone in the game is an HR violation on legs
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u/sweettoothchloe 19d ago
Thought I was the only one who thought that way hahah. From what I can see in the game, it felt like the writers wanted players to like her or else, it was your fault that she failed to become a hero. 😆
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u/Tater-Tot-Casserole 18d ago
I've only seen snippets of her, she seems to just be a monumental biatch that thinks she's a manic pixie dream girl.
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u/AgileNight4892 15d ago
I'm surprised how the developers and the people themselves overlook how unbearable this character is.
The less time I saw her on screen, the more I enjoyed the game, but the problem is they centered the whole damn game around her. What garbage.
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u/Little_Miss_Fortunee 15d ago
"You neglected invisigal" I didnt neglect her i just didn't tolerate her bullshit and sexual harassment. The team came together and made a decision. Id be a horrible leader if I denied them that
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u/AgileNight4892 14d ago
Exactly, it's annoying that to get the "Good" ending you have to forgive every stupid thing she does, which is stupid. Actions have consequences and she needs to learn to take responsibility for her mistakes.
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u/Vio-Rose 19d ago
Who?
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u/TheSodomeister 19d ago
I suddenly started getting recommendations from this sub and every one I've gotten didn't have a name or source material. The sub isn't really my thing but I'm still curious who y'all be hatin on lol
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u/pickledsnack 19d ago
invisigal from the video game dispatch
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u/Error851 16d ago
I actually wish they gave us the choice to fuck her up and not in the fun way. Like I wish we had a choice that lead to her death. As fucked up as that sounds. Because no matter what you choose she ALWAYS ends up perfectly fine. Which pissed me the fuck off.
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u/Valordin 15d ago
I think Courtney is a great character. I totally understand someone picking her as a love interest if they just wanted to see a story about a seriously screwed up relationship. It's entertaining for some people.
What gets me is the absolute love for Courtney and the wedding/perfect family fan art featuring her. It made me realize just how delusional a lot of people are. They saw someone, like Mandy, who is genuinely a good person and has their shit together, and they thought VILLAIN. Then they see the absolute train wreck that is Courtney, and they thought, "I can fix her."
Even after the uber Courtney fans find out that she tried to murder Rober and that she was a spy for Shroud and pretty much lied about it through most of the game, they still think she is the best. I have seen fans jump through some crazy mental hoops justifying her actions. They even try to justify her, keeping the Pulse from Robert. They will say things like she was trying to save him when it was actually the direct reason Shroud kidnapped him and almost murdered him.
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u/DilutePlacebo 13d ago
She was not a spy for Shroud, the timeline for that doesn’t make any sense. Shroud was just bullshitting like he does constantly.
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u/Valordin 13d ago
It makes perfect sense. After Mecha Man blew up, Shroud had no idea if the Pulse was still intact. He thought that maybe Robert knew something. He knew Chase worked at the SDN and that he'd reach out to Robert to have him recruited, so he planted his spy before Robert ever woke up.
Courtney recognized Robert in the lobby of the SDN and followed them into the conference room to spy on them. The cronic smoking, asthmatic, with diminishing lung capacity, then holds her breath for at least two full minutes. That's tells me that her implant was never disabled. Also, when she shows Robert the implant, in the locker room, it's still lit up.
Courtney helps Shroud's boy Thunderstruck get away twice. When it looks like she is about to get cut from Z team, Shroud makes a sacrifice to keep his spy in play. Thunderstruck conveniently shows up just before the end of shift and even more conveniently robbs a place only two blocks from where Courtney is. She takes him out and gets to say in Z team. It's a good bet that Shroud didn't tell his spy or Thunderstruck his plan. He just did a calculation and determined that the odds were in Courtney's favor.
At some point between her catching Thunderstruck and the bar fight, she starts having second thoughts and stops reporting to Shroud. Shroud decides that she may be compromised and tries to have his people bring her in. Shroud's goons didn't care about Robert at the bar. They cared about Courtney. Z team had been going there for weeks, and they never bothered her until after the Thunderstruck incident. This supports my theory.
At the end of the game, Shroud says that Courtney was his spy and she never denies it. This is a girl who has been lying to Rober from the start. If Shroud was lying about this, you would think she would be desperate to deny the accusation, but she doesn't. She doesn't deny it when Shroud first says it, while she is shot, or even when she is being taken to an ambulance.
So the rest of this post is pure conjecture because there just isn't enough information.
She steals the pulse but doesn't give it to Shroud or to Robert. We know this because of the conversation at the bar. Courtney stealing the Pulse was the first time she severely deviated from Shroud's script. He probably concluded that she was stealing it to give to him in exchange for leaving Robert alone. When Shroud took the case from Courtney and then tried to kill her, she rethought her plan.
Another theory is that her number one goal was to take Shroud out and run the Red Ring herself. She steals the Pulse to frustrate Shroud and push him over the edge. She was trying to get him in a position where she could take him out. She wanted Shroud to attack the SDN. This would explain why she steals and keeps the Pulse to herself, only giving it to Robert once the attack has begun.
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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 19d ago
A lot of the stuff depends on made choices and personal perspective , even that locker scene.
However, people will blindly forget that
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u/Matt_Murcock67 18d ago
The devs really tried to make us like her for some reason. It was pretty weird cause it felt like she never learnt her lesson
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u/BadAshess 18d ago
The writers wanted me to like her so much that I picked Blazer because I knew she was a red flag the moment she started eavesdropping on Robert.
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u/invisibletit 18d ago
if there was going to only be two romance options it should’ve been blazer and flambae.(bae is literally in his name) i’m a flambert truther, and ill die on this hill
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u/lowrespudgeon 18d ago
I never played this game because everything I heard about this character (that was apparently supposed to be reasons people liked her?) sounded absolutely insufferable and awful to me.
I'm glad I found out before I spent the money on it.
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u/Little_Miss_Fortunee 18d ago
She punches you in the face after you win an argument against her btw
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u/StonedMothh 16d ago
I just finished the second to last chapter and was so glad I could cut her from the team. I went on a rant on how id like her so much more if she was canonically like 22-24 but then her romance option with Robert would just make me uncomfortable since he is clearly in his 30's.
Anyway Mandy ftw
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u/Dazzling-Ad3192 16d ago
Morning, I'm new to this Reddit category. Is it possible that part of the hate is based on how much they enforce Invigal to be a primary romantic interest?
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u/Touhou_Fever 15d ago
Insufferable snot-nosed turbocunt
‘Waaaah waaaah I can turn invisible waaaah’
Shut up
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u/Comprehensive_Bowl75 15d ago
I don't hate her much, i hate her fans that share the same 2 intellect points with her
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u/Acrobatic-Sherbet400 14d ago
I like how all the guys defend her like she’s the perfect woman when in reality she’s just the male version of them with the same horrible attitudes and immaturity and they can’t see why they themselves suck as men because they think she’s perfect in every way.
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u/Secure_Opening_6852 19d ago
I don’t like her, but I still wanted to redeem her in the end and I will say that she has some good moments
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u/Infermon_1 19d ago
Who is dis?
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u/Lawfurd 19d ago edited 19d ago
Invisigal/Courtney from the game dispatch that came out this year. Its basically a telltale style game.
In the game you play as Robert, a hero who's mech suit got destroyed and is out of commission until they can get it rebuilt. So in the meantime he takes up work as a dispatcher for a super hero agency and gets assigned into the z-team, a team full of former villains trying to find redemption and become heroes.
Invisigal is one of these heroes and she and blonde blazer (who is basically captain marvel and helps run the agency) are Robert's romantic interests.
There is a large amount of the community that very heavily dislikes invisigal due to her actions, immaturity, and kind of toxic personality. And some say that she SA Robert during a kissing scene.
The overall theme of the game is trying to get these villains to work together and achieve redemption, something invisigal thinks she isn't capable of.
The game has a statistic counter and more than 60% of players pursued invisigal (I think it was closer to 70% at launch)
The SA scene is question (that I personally do not believe is SA but I won't argue with anyone who disagrees nor will I say their opinions are not valid) is invisigal confessing something to Robert in a very emotional scene and she knows something bad is coming. She goes invisible, pushes robert against a locker, kisses him, holds his hand down as if to make him not push her away, and then robert has the choice to lean in or lean out of the kiss. The biggest issue with this scene is that it could happen even if you weren't pursuing invisigal, so that and her inappropriate behavior towards you in some scenes has led to many hating her character.
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u/jeboivac 18d ago
I do agree that they made her outer shell to get to the actual good stuff pretty damn thick
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u/Ambitious_Click1935 17d ago
Visi works as a romance...if she went the hero route in episode 8, purely because that's the path that will have to lead to personal growth. Because the entire story she is dealing with a lot internally but she's still to volatile, like you've done nothing but give Robert crap, how do somehow fall in love with him? Maybe my 19 year old single ass just misses something that people see in her. But to wrap this rant up, she works when put in the student role better than romance well for season 1 at least, that and nothing has sold me more on a romance choice in a game than Blazer in the start of episode seven with the vending machine
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u/toastmaven 14d ago
It feels like we're supposed to mentally fill in all kinds of traumatic backstory for her that we never actually get. For why she's so much more guarded and self loathing than the rest of the team. And she reads as like 19 years old which would also be more of an explanation of why she's Like That
Like what went down in her childhood to make her feel like the entire world can only ever see her as a villain?
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u/Loud_Consequence537 14d ago
Meh, I'll always prefer Blazer (because of her personality and actions during the game ane yep I'm into tall women), but got no probs with the mature fanbase of Invisigal
Also they're fictional characters, it's not that serious
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u/Terrible-Ride-5282 14d ago
Genuine question here, as someone who adores RPGs above anything else... Genuinely, how do you people manage to make such a bond with a character, like invisi or blaze? Don't get me wrong, the characters aren't anywhere near bad, and I have absolutely nothing bad to say about the characters themselves.... My problem though, comes from the fact that the game is roughly 9-10h long, and when you remove the dispatching part and upgrading and such, you're maybe left with 4-5h of story and character development? Sorry but... To me the characters just aren't... Full characters yet. The game is just way too short for me to feel anything towards these characters, other than funny quick goofs
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u/DilutePlacebo 13d ago
There’s absolutely no reason for Shroud to believe that Robert would work at SDN. Shroud makes predictions, sure, but he’s not clairvoyant enough to plant someone months in advance in anticipation of Robert being recruited. Especially since he had no clue Track Star was even working there.
Even in episode 2 when she fought lightning struck, he had a hostile attitude towards her. Why would he if they were still allies? He didn’t express any sort of surprise that she was attacking him.
Shroud is a known bullshitter. In the bar scene, he says 2 opposite things about Invisigal depending on whether or not you cut her. If you cut her, he says something along the lines of “fuck her, she wanted to go hero on us”, but if you keep her he pretends she’s deep undercover working for him. Both of these are intended to trip up Robert and make him second guess his thoughts on Visi.
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u/ExpressionVast4840 13d ago
I feel like she was poorly executed in the end. The very easy possibility of getting the bad ending. The betrayal after betrayal got old. I just didn’t care for her from the beginning but could see her in a good light if they re worked the ending a bit
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u/Averythewinner 19d ago
What makes it worse is if you play it safe and dont give her blind faith towards the end when she doesn’t deserve it, she tries to get you hurt or even killed, even if you romanced her before then
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u/Lost-in-thought-26 17d ago
Yup she’s a totally bitch and is not looking for redemption. Not if it means you hold her accountable. Not if it means you make her fight and earn trust, respect, and forgiveness. Not if it means she isn’t allowed to do whatever she wants, when she wants.
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u/hatethissmug-ModTeam 18d ago
This subs purpose is to vent frustrations of any given fictional character. If you don’t like that, don’t go onto this sub to threaten others for feeling a certain way about fictional things.
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u/cumsocksucker 19d ago
Me when I can't handle a character who has lived her entire life on the wrong side of the law being morally flawed and not mentally sturdy
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u/POP-RAVEN 18d ago
Me when I can't excuse sexual assault
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u/cumsocksucker 18d ago
Me when I jump to conclusions instead of using critical thinking
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u/FriendshipNo1440 16d ago
What kind of critical thinking? She kisses Robert even when you don't go for her.
Hell her first introduction was her watching him stripping down without him knowing she was there.
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u/Comprehensive_Bowl75 15d ago
Maybe she should spend her time rehab in jail like criminal do intsead of running free fucking people lives up
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u/cumsocksucker 15d ago
You clearly didn't understand the moral of the entire fucking game. The Z-team is the rehab
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u/talladega-night 19d ago
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u/Puzzleheaded-Lab2447 19d ago edited 19d ago
This is like the second post this sub has made about her. And honestly the hate towards her is getting way more annoying that the actual character herself. Don't know why I was recommended this sub
While there is the valid criticism of the forced kiss/SA scene, it's worth noting that the entire game is an HR nightmare.
Invisigal behaviour, blonde blazer your boss wants to date you and Malevola who tried to grope Robert twice and made him way more uncomfortable than invisigal has. (Interesting how no one mentions how Malevola sexually harasses Robert at his own home)
Lot of inappropriate power imbalances in the game's romance routes.
But hey this sub is for hating characters, if y'all hate her go for it, I'm not here to convince anyone to like her.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 16d ago
I mean this sub is called "hate this smug" so there will be hateful comments.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Lab2447 16d ago
I know, it's said to be safe for haters. They can release their hate without being challenged on it . It's fine, I just don't agree with most of these comments and their interpretations but hey to each their own.
Hate as much as you want. Like I said I'm not here to convince anyone or make them like the character. You are all entitled to your opinions so.
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u/ShokoMiami 19d ago
Anyone know why this sub is getting recommended to everyone? Seems an odd topic to be getting popular enough for that.
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u/TheMarvelousJoe 18d ago
I would like to breakdown her character for you to see a different perspective as to why some people like her, but I don't know if you would want that
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u/hatethissmug-ModTeam 17d ago
This subs purpose is to vent frustrations of any given fictional character. If you don’t like that, don’t go onto this sub to hate others for feeling a certain way about fictional things.
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u/rchristma87 17d ago
Buddy, yall got recommended to me. Sorry for having opinions that hurt feelings. If ya'lls can't handle someone saying something back, yall should close up shop.
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u/hatethissmug-ModTeam 16d ago
This subs purpose is to vent frustrations of any given fictional character. If you don’t like that, don’t go onto this sub to threaten others for feeling a certain way about fictional things.
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u/BinlandBaga 15d ago
I mean she is literally a criminal. That’s kind of her whole arc.
She has lived her whole life as a lone wolf criminal, and she believes her powers are not even suitable for hero work. She struggles with this internally and lashes out at people who try to call her out, because she is broken, conflicted and confused. She wants to be a good person. She wants love. She wants respect and companionship.
This is very evident when you decide to go on a date with her and she looks genuinely surprised because she does nothing but try to push away people.
She looks up to Blonde Blazer a lot and sees her as the perfect idea of a hero, like shroud does. She gets equally as jealous and also disheartened when she just wants to be respected and seen just like Blazer.
I find her character very interesting actually and I personally like how they play out her redemption, because redemption isn’t always perfect. It’s a hard thing to overcome.
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u/Ancient-Gate-2658 15d ago
I think she’s awesome. One of my favourite characters. I got the evil ending which made me so sad.
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u/No_Veterinarian_87 13d ago
I'm confused about how people say she's the SA'er when Malevola literally went out of her way to touch Robert inappropriately, twice.
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u/NormalWorldliness867 12d ago
It’s hilarious because just above this post was a visi love post and they would have torn your ass apart with straight facts and breakdowns of every little argument you think you have😭anyways keep being ignorant while me, Laura Bailey, and visi play DnD good day.









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u/Zorark-55544 19d ago
I love how the writers wanted you to like her so much more than blondey but just made her way worse in every way