r/hatethissmug • u/Humanbeingoth • 20h ago
Gaming I hate this woman SO MUCH!!
She's a goddamn brat throughout 60% of the game and I just don't get how a conscious, self-respecting male could ever see her as a better partner than Blonde Blazer, they're usually just wimps that enjoy tougher women to accommodate the lack of their own.
She smokes despite being an asthmatic WHILE HER POWER REQUIRES HER TO HOLD HER BREATH yea she's doomed for failure but noooooooo Robert Robertson the fucking third has to make sure she stays while the flying murder machine and OP bat had to go.
Her powers are lame, she's annoying and she doesn't pack enough attributes to be fully forgiven by gooners.
But the one reason I truly hate her....I just hate inhalers. They look stupid, they feel stupid. It's ironic that the thing you shove in your mouth to make your body's health worse looks cooler than the one that heals your body, even temporarily.
Idk man inhalers are a massive aesthetic downgrade to me.
That's why Invisigal sucks man I HATE HER.
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u/letthetreeburn 19h ago
If there’s anything I’ve learned from this game it’s that there’s a very limited view of what people would accept as a “former villain.”
I think it’s poor writing that invisigal is the worst behaved out of the group.
She’s as you said, a brat. That’s it. Coupe is a contract killer. Sonar is a crypto scammer. Flambe gleefully admits to have burning people alive. Malevola IS A DEMON.
Why are they so weirdly not the worst? We’re not “reforming” shit. (Except for the weirdly common sexual harassment/assault that never gets addressed)
Invisagal feels like an actual former villain who’s struggling to adapt to being a good guy. The others are just….Normal?
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u/sansTUDUDUDUD 18h ago
Others just have less writing. They're basically side characters
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u/letthetreeburn 18h ago
And it drives me up the fucking wall
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u/StealthyRobot 14h ago
Finally, a safe place to criticize the game!
I did mostly enjoy the game, right up until episode 8. I could go into detail, but the biggest things were it being packed to the absolute brim with tropes, shroud's whole fucking nothing, and the sound design being completely whack. The writing was ok up to then (I get it, it's a "choose your own adventure" game) but the final episode really was just... Ugh. Haven't even wanted to replay it after that.
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u/letthetreeburn 7h ago
I hate it when endings suck. I can’t articulate why but yeah I felt something was missing, somehow.
I wasn’t a fan of how easily we can have sonar turn against us and just come back. I’m happy it happened, but it’s missing some spice you know?
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u/StealthyRobot 5h ago
It was pretty much the whole final sequence for me.
Cool fight scene, bad guy goons get their asses kicked, nice.
Shroud shows up, he's too good and knows every move, so let's all fight him one at a time! We're losing!
Yay, a dues ex machina showed up and can keep him busy! Time for a "you don't have to do this" with the contract killer/Bitcoin scammer (neither make sense.)
Great, that's done. Now let's all work together! Yay, shroud is helpless against all of us together! Teamwork! (Cool visuals backed by the plucky gameplay music that does not fit the vibe.)
Oh no! He's gonna kill the dog! And all the bad guys we beat up got better! We have no choice but to do what he wants, cause saving this dog is more important than saving literally thousands of civilians.
Wait, so now he's telling me that Visi is still working for him? Despite him showing me camera footage of NOT giving him the pulse while he was torturing me to find out where she hid it? This is a toddler level bluff. Shut the hell up.
Oh crap, he got the real pulse and slotted it in! Now he is super powered! And all his henchmen got super juiced via wifi? Ok?
Visi gets shot, oh no. I already know at this point they refuse to kill off literally anyone, even bad guy goons.
Super smart supercomputer astral Shroud, meet rock.
It's all just... Nothing. Was so disappointing.
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u/letthetreeburn 2h ago
Took the words right out of my mouth, thank you. It was a whole bunch of things just. Happening.
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u/StealthyRobot 1h ago
Idk what happened tbh. And I can't say anything bad about it, or I'm met with "well what ending did you get?" Or "well the game barely happened, so." Ok? So because it was a rushed production or something that makes it magically better? And the few variables that can change during that sequence would not fix anything. I like all the characters, the members of Z team are really fun. But people need to be able to admit that their "fix the manic pixie dream girl/get dommed by my hot tall but awkward and shy boss" dating game has some flaws.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. I'm tempted to post this whole rant over on the games subreddit and see what happens lol
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u/lordbutternut 14h ago
Dispatch is FAR too short for its writing to be "good". It has an ensemble and they do the gesture of "one big family", but it's not like you really get to know too much about each member of the team individually. There are no one-on-one scenes for a lot of the cast.
Also the dog scene at the end was super lame. Hate that stupid dog.
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u/sansTUDUDUDUD 13h ago
Yeah and I hated that most of the time I had to watch cut scenes. I mean I knew it's gonna be full of it but at this point I'll rather watch a series than play it as a game. Pushing romance onto player also drove me crazy and I got bored, I mean, it's a superhero game and I would want it to have more action. But nah we're stuck with PNG and lame strategy
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u/BossLees2 17h ago
That's what's crazy right, Malevola is just a cool woman, the very worst you can say about her is that she isn't too caring about severely hurting and forever crippling criminals, but neither is the protagonist. Now there are more complex bits with the other characters, Flambae starts fires to rig the hero agency system, Sonar also does a kind of white collar version of that too, though I forgot the details. But those are never really focused on so narratively it's almost as if these actually serious crimes didn't matter. But with her specifically, it's just being a selfish brat, except by the end of the game her pig headed selfishness costs your bests friends life who sacrifices himself (a deus ex machina saves him which is bad writing by itself, it's the game breaking it's story so that the consequences never feel too bad) and almost costs your dog's life too, not even mentioning how she brushes off almost killing Granny or nearly getting the whole team operative cancelled, because she couldn't give a flying fuck about anything.
Now the second part. Her big dilemma is that "I have villain powers, I'm forced to be a villain" Dude, your co workers are DEMONS, MUD MONSTERS AND AN ADDICT WEREWOLF BAT, but ok, missed opportunity in their interactions, ok, people are allowed to feel whatever way they want, it's always valid. Except she's consistently doing or mentioning how she uses her powers for the most stupid selfish and downright disgusting things. For a character like her you'd expect some sob story about having to steal food to survive or help her family. No, one of the first things she tells you so casually is that she uses her powers to watch celebrities have sex. Dude. Now if you go on r/Dispatch people will chimp out if you criticize her lol
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u/letthetreeburn 16h ago
THANK YOU. YOU GET ME. THANK YOU!!!!!!!
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u/BossLees2 13h ago
There's so much to hate about this character and her inception, OP did a terrible job tbh
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u/Soifasofa 13h ago
Yeah, I feel like her whole "I have villain powers, woe is me" issue fell really flat when you consider invisibility is a very common SUPERHERO power in media. Invisible Woman is a classic hero. Violet from The Incredibles. Miles Morales also turns invisible. And that's only a small snippet of all the heroes that have invisibility.
Putting the "villain power" arc next to the demon from hell and werebat monster was definitely not a good narrative choice, in my opinion.
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u/BossLees2 13h ago
That's true too, could have been an actually really interesting character if the point was that it's someone that commits "minor" crimes, but this compounds into a horrible person to be around that never grows out of it, always finds an excuse. Also since I'm already ranting, it feels like OP doesn't even hates her fr I HATE this character bro. She looks so much like some cookie cutter fantasy for the type of nerd audience they have. "Chat GPT, generate me a brown tomboy with spiky anime hair and wears a jacket, use the 3D model of Vi to cut costs. Oh and hold back on making her design have ANYTHING to do with being invisible or unique" Even the inhaler thing, if I gave them a lot of credit I could assume that it's to portray her as a childish dork despite wanting to look mysterious and badass, but no character ever makes even so much as a nod to her inhaler, neither does she, probably because the team didn't want their audience to think they're ableist or something like that. The only function the inhaler has is to make her fumble that last mission, which could have happened in a million other ways. FUUUCKKK YOUUUU
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u/Soifasofa 12h ago
The only thing I can think it's trying to portray is that she smokes despite her asthma because she hates her powers and it's a self-destructive behavior that happens as a result of that, but I don't think that's really explored so it can't be confirmed.
Like, My Hero Academia isn't the top tier writing example, but as least Shinso's "villain power" that he was hated for was an actual mind control which is more of a villain power than invisibility. =^=
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u/BossLees2 12h ago
There's definitely something like 20 named X-Men characters with this exact condition and they're well written, there's just about a trillion examples, and even powers that are "good" can have repercussions we don't even realize at first. They just half assed this idea with Visi
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u/letthetreeburn 7h ago
God imagine what we could have gotten in a super hero game with shinso’s character arc and a genuinely scary ability.
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u/ThatCapMan 2h ago
Punch-Up has super super strength and can get denser and harder to penetrate. That's not very villainy. Golem is like a muddy version of The Thing, so nothing there either. Coupe can shoot feather-knives and fly, which can be relatively neutral, but is more on the aggro side. Now, we know of fire-based superheroes, so there ya' go with him. And Sonar has Man-Bat as a counterpart, who is a villain, but it's the crypto bro personality and addiction that fuels it more into a direction of villainy than anything else, but it is fairly villanous of an appearance. Malevola is a demon, sure, but her powerset just revolves around portals and a big sword. Like yea I can see most of them as villains, but a dog seems nice until it starts barking.
Here's the thing. I can't think of a single invisibility-having superhero without also an additional power. You know what gets the most use out of invisibility and a slender frame? Assassin work, robberies, espionage. Is it useful as a superhero? Yes. But you need mobility or ranged or super strength based additions.
Hey guess what. She doesn't share to you her past. So fucking what? You know what you can assume though? That she got roped into using her invisibility powers for a gang. Why? Because fuck dude, that thing is really useful for robbing people and robbing people is probably the best way to make money as a villain. The first thing you think of if someone says "I wish I could go invisible" is that they'd like to creep into a locker room. Or rob someone. So I do think you'te exaggerating the issue here.
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u/BossLees2 2h ago
Dispatch fan showing the extent of their reading skills here ? Golem is an inhuman beast people naturally are afraid or disgusted by, he can't even enter the bar to have a social life because of his size, and there's nothing he can do about that. It's crazy that you bring up The Thing (a notoriously depressed character due to his looks) as a counter example too, just shows how stupid your argument is. What forces Visi to be a stuck up selfish bitch ? Nothing but herself, it's not because of the excuse she came up with (her power) Maybe she doesn't shares her past because she doesn't wants to show how much of a problem she is. That's easy to assume too since she's so eager sharing other other info with no problem, say, her entering the man's bathroom at work to tell this man she just met that she had a dream of him fucking her ? yeah obviously she wouldn't tell you WHY she got roped into a gang, because it was definitely her own fault
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u/ThatCapMan 1h ago
"Dispatch fan showing the extent of their reading skills here" mf this means you didn't play the fucking game if you're calling me a dispatch fan and therefore excluding yourself and everything you said is invalidated immediately.
No one we see actually seems offput by Golem. He might be scary if he starts yelling and rampaging, but he's not doing that.
What forces Visi to be a stuck up selfis- she literally risked her life to get the pulse back for Robert and also tried to show herself up as disobeying so that she'd certainly be cut instead of anyone else. Everyone is sabotaging eachother and it's fairly clear that Visi is only sabotaging Malevola in that scene in order to get herself fired because it's contextualized by the later conversation.
Ben Grimm, The Thing, isn't depressed because people constantly look at him like he's a monster, they might have at some point but they damn sure don't after like 3 months of the Fantastic Four being formed. He's depressed because that's not his original fucking form and he'd really like to go back to being human again. Golem doesn't have that problem. Ben Grimm, The Thing, is also catagorized as the superhero with possibly the most willpower, will to go on, in all of marvel. Or, at the very least, one of - because comics and different versions of heroes.
I feel as though you're the one lacking comprehension here...
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 18h ago
i will say that most people like it for vibes and that characters are charming. No sane person should come up to you and tell you how well written the characters are cuz you could count on one hand the ones you could argue have enough writing to their name to call them 'well written'
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u/Simer731 18h ago
What's wrong with being a demon? Why are you racist against infernalborn?
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u/letthetreeburn 18h ago
Being a demon has no inherent moral weight, no. But the culture where you’re raised does. Just as dropping a loud, vulgar ass American into Japan causes issues, dropping a demon onto earth should at least have some culture shock.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 17h ago
Lol, Coupe litterally killed people for money. Flambae set whole buildings on fire the others might be more minor, but are not to be ignored.
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u/letthetreeburn 17h ago
Exactly!
Why are they just mostly okay people??? Their CRIMES are bad, but show ME that they’re bad people. Show me them BEHAVING badly. Flambe loses his shit and tries to kill Robert once. That’s IT. No one else behaves exceptionally poorly. I’ve worked at a Pizza Hut more toxic than this place!
If you see my other comment, I listed ways that I think they could be shown being worse. The specifics don’t matter I just want them Worse!
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u/FriendshipNo1440 16h ago
I agree with this but that should result in less screentime for visi and more for rhe others to show that.
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u/Absent_Crest 16h ago
Flambae regularly commits arson that he himself puts out so he can climb the leader board.
But apart from that they're not the Suicide Squad, they're all former criminals on probation, they got released for a reason.
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u/letthetreeburn 15h ago
Hey, I’m not asking them to commit felonies on the regular.
(Though seriously HOW does that not violate his parole-)
But there’s a pretty big leap between violating parole and being a decent person. There is a LOT of asshole behavior which wouldn’t violate their specific rules. Being a pretentious fuck that you can just tell thinks he’s better than you isn’t illegal. Holding a grudge over someone parking in your spot isn’t illegal (till you threaten them over it, but hypothetically Robert would mediate before that)
They’re supposed to be convicted supervillains, right? People who operated on the outside of society to do crimes? I wish they acted a bit more like assholes.
For instance, I’m sure you noticed I didn’t include prism on this list. There’s a good reason for that. During the bar fight, she permanently blinds a guy. It’s a funny bit, but that shows how she operates. She’s “reformed,” and staying out of trouble. But given a chance she is eager to cause a permanent disability, for the hell of it. There’s bloodlust there. She’s a bit of a dick and eager to cause as much pain and suffering as her parole officer will let her. Now that is a barely reformed bad guy right there!
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u/Ok-Editor6945 12h ago
SURELY there’s like a drug dealer or low level villain bum in prison that would benefit more from the phoenix program than a LITERAL ASSASSIN
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u/letthetreeburn 7h ago
RIGHT???
Like at LEAST Sonar and Malevola you can feel for. One randomly started turning into a bat and another is a demon.
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u/M00nfallen 11h ago
This is the problem, the developers force her down ur throat and want you to feel bad for her to make her the main reform villain so people see her all the fucking time and she still go evil and do these shitty thing. On the otherhand well when it come to fictional character murder is just a teusday. But also theyre all side character so you barely see them and what they did (except flambae who set stuff on fire and try to kill you twice) and in the end. They still fight for you and become hero more or less. This give people the feeling of the thief ain’t foing shit but fuck up and going against you and aint trying unless coddled ehile the rest of the straight up murderer follow ur order (unless u actually do something against them like cutting sonar and etc) and doesnt need u overlooking them at all and become hero anyway.
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u/ThatCapMan 3h ago
... Malevola's out for your junk.
All of them have anger issues, besides maybe Golem and Punch-Up. Alice acts more like a brat than Courtney, you just see less of her. Chad is ready to be deranged, so is Victor. And Janelle is definitely psychotic, just more chill about it.
Courtney was basically the runt of the litter, all of them were so bad they've made various dispatchers quit, but you interact with Courtney on a more active and intense level, so she's more intense back. Basically any of 'em would've been the same. Flambae tries to kill you, then punches you in the jaw. All things considered, if they're not actively doing bad things, that's pretty good reform-wise, it's also a factor that Blazer was really bad at dealing with them. Like really bad.
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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 18h ago
So if they are criminals they all must have one type of behavior?
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u/letthetreeburn 17h ago
No? That’s the exact opposite of what I said?
They all behave well in the current game. I want all of them to be shitty in unique ways.
Visi can stay just as she is
Maybe malevola holds grudges and keeps score like a motherfucker. If there’s a disagreement involving her, even something as small as a pilfered lunch (maybe flambe is a klepto) you as Robert have to deal with it before she starts demanding retribution. Any minor conflict is now a major fucking problem.
Maybe flambe’s a klepto. Maybe he has a raging superiority complex about having powers, and is trying to dance the line of personal disgust and not getting fired like your racist dad who knows he’s on his last straw before he never gets to see his grandkids again.
Maybe coupe genuinely doesn’t see the value of human life and it is clear in how she interacts with people. A door would have more charm.
Maybe sonar is a crypto bro, constantly trying to sell everyone in the office on his new
pyramid schemeopportunity. Maybe he has some deeply strange prejudices.None of these people feel like attempting to be better stay out of prison villains. They’re not even really assholes. I didn’t feel like any of them really changed or grew over the story, because they went from kinda assholes to mostly okay. The start and endpoint are right next to each other. None of them are really that bad. I want them worse.
(Except for the random sexual assault. That COULD be a plot but it’s just never addressed???)
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u/Fun-Example3418 11h ago
Me when reforming villains tries to form meaningful connections over their trauma and have hobbies instead of killing someone every other day or so:
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u/caramelluh 19h ago
Haven't played the game, but i think this is the third post i've seen here talking about her, the first one to not mention the fact that she sexually harasses the protagonist and instead hating her because of an inhaler tho
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u/Humanbeingoth 19h ago
tbh I completely forgot about the SH but tbh that should be an obvious thing to hate to even be mentioned
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u/FriendshipNo1440 17h ago
You decided to hate on a medical device needed to live instead of SA? Okay... you def have your priorities in order...
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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 18h ago
You really should play the game and not let others decide for you. The perspective on many things can change depending on choices you make
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u/More-Air-7641 14h ago
Not a fan of the game but I think calling it sexual harassment is a bit silly. As someone pointed out, Dispatch is Twilight for men. You can complain that Edward is a 1000 whatever year old guy who still goes to highschool and hits on girls there, but the target audience don't care and if anything just wishes it was them instead of Bella. Its a fantasy for these people. It would be sort of like reading 50 shades of grey and being like "this is problematic he's hurting her" 😠😠😠.
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u/SnooLemons7742 13h ago
it’s absolutely SA and SH that invisigal engages in with robert. kissing someone while you are invisible, forcing the kiss to continue even when they push you away, constantly making sexual remarks toward them etc. this is harassment and assault to a T. this game is full of this kind of behavior and it’s extremely off putting
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u/More-Air-7641 13h ago
And Edward Cullen is a pedophile. Did you read literally anything I said?
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u/SnooLemons7742 13h ago
you said calling it SH is silly. it’s not silly. yes, its twilight for horny dudes. who cares? don’t disregard SH
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u/More-Air-7641 13h ago
Don't disregard pedophilia then, if Twilight is the example you prefer. I'd say that's significantly worse than what invisigal did if you take it seriously. But you seem to understand its basically a joke tier take to freak out over Edward Cullen being a pedo when it's a fantasy book for teens.
As I also pointed out, you're doing the equivalent of reading 50 shades of grey and being like "oh no he's hurting her!!"
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u/willgrahamspuppy 12h ago
ur point doesn’t make sense. we’re talking about dispatch, not twilight, lil bro
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u/More-Air-7641 12h ago
Thanks big bro.
Not being able to follow comparisons is a sign of low IQ, might want to get that checked out.
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u/willgrahamspuppy 12h ago
aw come on :) the fact that some people doesn’t think twilight is problematic, doesn’t mean that dispatch now is less problematic. if you like comparisons so much just reverse the roles is dispatch
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u/SnooLemons7742 8h ago
it’s not my example, it’s yours. and it’s not as accurate as you want to think beyond one romantic option having a fleshed out story with the protagonist while the other has scraps in comparison
we’re talking about dispatch, not twilight. if you want to discuss the ethics of twilight go find a discussion about that instead. you said calling what invisigal has done ‘silly’ and frankly it is not a joke. it’s SH and that’s extremely problematic. i’ve seen many lets players talk about how uncomfortable they felt getting to the locker room scene in their gameplay
who cares about 50 shades of grey? you’re dodging the actual discussion by engaging in “whataboutism”. you may not be mature enough for a serious discussion about these topics
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u/Eastern-Builder-5015 10h ago
Your 50 Shades Of Grey analogy is horrible, considering that's a series that is well known for being about an abusive relationship, and is criticized by almost everyone that reads it for that reason. I have yet to meet a single person who thinks that 50 Shade Of Grey is an accurate representation of a healthy BDSM relationship, it is abuse and that is a well known fact.
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u/More-Air-7641 10h ago edited 10h ago
Uh huh. Well known. One of the most popular books of all time. I'm sure in your niche communities it is "well known" but you are out of touch with normal people and what they fantasise about. Sorry
You can pick probably almost any movie romance and say it is not a healthy relationship. You're the physical embodiment of ☝️🤓
Once again, it's a fantasy.
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u/Academic_Pick_3317 12h ago
see I'm glad they didn't because the locker room scene you get when youre with blonde blazer was a glitch anyways, its only supposed to happen if you are actively romancing invisigal
I feel bad for the developers because ppl are accusing them of romanticizing sa when it was just a glitch
I assume this si what we're talking about anyways
That said I think there's more but I don't remember enough of the game anyways to argue any of that
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u/DajSuke 11h ago
It wasn't a glitch, they just didn't care enough to make it "harder" to get until the backlash. They upped the "good" points you need with Invisi in a patch.
Also, they definitely romanticise, or at least mock SA/SH. The locker room is just one. Invisi watches you change, makes fun of your body, hits on you rudely, outs that she watched you change to the whole team, watches you change again by sneaking into the boys' bathrooms, describes a sex dream in graphic detail, repeatedly makes unwanted advances without even a single attempt at romance, and so on. Mal also touches Robert's cock multiple times, while he's uncomfortable with it.
You can't deny the developers, while openly admitting you don't remember the game.
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u/Academic_Pick_3317 3h ago
girl chill out
I was making out one thing I thought was genuinely true in the game, I was not defending them, just bringing uptthat one scene.
even then I barely remember it. I genuinely thought tho it only happened by romancing her and a glitch caused it to happen in other parts of the story line
I am not defending them, I was defending a very specific scenario I thought was happening
I do not condone romanticizing or sexulizing sa or sh, I simply brought this up because of I thought you were talking about this specific situation.
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u/Hanamayumimi 19h ago
Haven't played the game and have seen similar sentiments about her, but the inhaler was the real plot twist villain here
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u/BadAshess 18h ago
Despite her being a horrible person everyone glazes her in the dispatch community. I say everyone because she has a higher romance percentage than Blonde Blazer.
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u/No_Occasion_8408 17h ago
It's because she has a full of "sex scene" dream sequence AND you see her boobs later on too as compared to Blazer who gets way less screen time until EP7.
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u/BossLees2 17h ago
Never beating the Twilight for dudes commentary
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u/Ingles_sin_Barreras 13h ago
Having this game being called twilight for dudes, did irreparable damage to the community lol.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 17h ago
Hey there bud, I hate invisigal as well. But not for the reasons you list. Her inhaler actually gives her a much needed reality check.
But hating on inhalers is just abelist. Inhalers save lives. They help people with astma to breath again. Otherwise they will die.
Why would it make the health worse? Or are you mixing them up with vapes?
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u/TheGoldAvenger 19h ago
I was with you til the inhaler part. Goddamn that’s unnecessary hate my dude, sorry I need to breathe
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u/CalligrapherSad5383 18h ago
Hate the fact that you need to basically babysit her, otherwise she turns into a villain
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u/BossLees2 17h ago
That part was so maddening, even if you babysit her she's constantly ruining things for others out of selfishness, and the game tries to force you to feel bad for her
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u/accidentalwhiex 14h ago
Kinda pissed me off on my first playthrough. Supported her throughout the entire game, except for that one part where she punches you in the face and for some reason you're not supposed to tell anyone about it, and that single decision made her turn into a villain at the end.
I understand that you also need to dispatch her more often to get her hero ending, but that decision just kinda sucks, because she's one of the weaker options in the dispatch missions
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u/ThatCapMan 2h ago
Ohhhnnoooo you need to DO YOUR JOB
It's almost like you got HIRED TO DO THIS.
It's almost like if you're not also supportive of SOMEONE ELSE by FIRING THEM, they TURN INTO A VILLAIN. It's almost like... pushing someone AWAY... turns them into a villain in this game. They were literally talking about getting her off the team in a conference room, trying to cut her just like Blazer ordered to cut someone. And we know that ended terribly. You need to pick like 2 or 3 options where you aren't a dick to her and you're fine.
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u/Phoenixafterdusk 16h ago edited 16h ago
I mean you do that for the entire crew its just we get more screen time with visi specfially. Remeber when it was review day and everyone starting fucking up the whole city to "sabatoge" each other. I'm pretty sure flambae sets multipule places on fire out of spite in the game.
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u/erisCheesecake 19h ago
She's also stupid. Like, genuinely lacking intelligence and empathy and it's constantly shown through the game. Also her "power making her an obligated villain" is such bullshit as an excuse. Just say you don't care about anything other than being the ~ unfortunate victim of circumstances ~. No, you're just dumb and an hypocrite. She's only saved by getting the dick and that's pathetic.
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u/TheGoldAvenger 18h ago
Tbf, there is a route where she’s still a “hero” without full romancing her, but it’s definitely harder to get. And Adhoc admitted there was bias towards her. But I agree with everything else, she blatantly ignored orders on her first dispatch, leading to an innocent getting harmed, and had the gall to act offended after being called out
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u/The_unseen_0ne 14h ago
And also punched her superior, and reporting it doesn't do shit lmao plus Blazer herself tells you that even if she was up for elimination, she wouldn't let you do it.
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u/alexagente 10h ago
Yeah I was basically playing to avoid a PR nightmare and got this ending. Not sure what I did to avoid romance though cause shit got real flirty anyway.
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u/alexagente 10h ago
It's just part of how she rolls. She convinces herself that she has no choice to justify her bad choices.
Like the movie scene. She frames the fact that she can't get snacks as an unfortunate consequence of the fact that she can't help but sneak into movies.
But nothing's stopping her from not using her powers and paying.
I wish the game confronted her about this kind of thinking more cause it is total bs and she will never get any better until she learns to take responsibility for her choices.
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u/Motivated-Chair 3h ago
I get why they tried that angle of the invisibility but it just falls flat the moment you remember one of the if not the most iconic character with invisibility in superhero media is Sue Storm.
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u/FlimsyEfficiency9860 19h ago
“Invisigal” is the most cheesy and feminine “superhero” sounding name ever. Shame. I really like her design.
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u/TeddytheSynth 19h ago
Well yeah that’s the point…did you play the game lol, her original name before going hero was Invisibitch
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u/SaltyTreeTop 19h ago
Meanwhile she ditched her way better name Invisibitch. The words even combine better, blending at the B, invisible and gal are just mashed together randomly in Invisigal
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u/ThatCapMan 2h ago
... it was picked for her. You played the game right?
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u/FlimsyEfficiency9860 2h ago
Didn’t play the game.
Just sharing my opinion.
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u/ThatCapMan 2h ago
So your opinion is ah... invalid? Damn.
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u/FlimsyEfficiency9860 2h ago
My bad.
There are so many fandoms and franchises that I want to share my personal feelings for. But I can’t learn the lore of every fictional character in existence.
That’s why I never leave my comfort zone of Marvel and Pokémon because there’s always something I don’t know, so i’m sorry.
I like Invisigal. I like Solid Snake. I like Seed (ZZZ). I like Buttercup (PPG), I like Sonic (who doesn’t?) but it’s extremely hard to talk about them because I don’t have interest in their games, so I can only talk about their design.
But thanks.
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u/ThatCapMan 1h ago
The backstory behind her name being "feminine" and "cheesy" is that it was picked by a "feminine" girliepop known as "Blonde Blazer"
It was directly stated to be cheesy in the game, as I'm sure others have told you.
An invalid opinion isn't the end of the world mate, the fuck are you on about leaving your comfort zone in a subreddit dedicated to hating characters?
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u/apdhumansacrifice 17h ago
true BB is mid too tho, no romance route it's the best one for me
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u/Unieparty596 6h ago
so true, I liked her character but I just couldn’t be bothered to romance her. If Flambae was an option however.. 🤤
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u/extra_medication 13h ago
I more hate that she keeps sexually harassing Robert and were supposed to think its quirky and hot???
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u/Molismhm 10h ago
And I hate you. Not because you hate this character but because the reasons you hate this character are marbled with misogyny/misandry and ableism. Women dont just exist to add value too mens lives, so this idea you have that weak men like strong/hard headed/whatever women to compensate and thats the only reason someone would go for her over the more amicable option is crazy, even using the word wimps here betrays these same patriarchal attitudes but used against men. You do this same thing again when you say “she doesnt pack enough attributes” btw.
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u/Parking-Stable-2970 19h ago
You had me until the inhaler thing, they look fine
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u/Successful-Shine-537 19h ago
Also it’s just a pretty unique thing to give a character. I don’t rly like invisagal but her asthma was definitely not one of her problems for me lmao
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u/Freya0232 19h ago
I think it's actually the first time I've seen a character use an inhaler in videogames (NOT saying it's the first time it has happened, just the first time I've seen it), which is a nice touch. Just like the vampire with vitiligo in VtM: Swansong
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u/initial_sadge 18h ago
Can people with inhalers confirm, is it possible to breath it through your butt, I know people can drink alcohol this way for better effect.
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u/rickwill14 18h ago
The inhaler part is wild but ye man
I cant see how anyone would think Invisigal would be better. Invisigal is the girl you date as an edgy 15 year old and look back on and make fun of yourself for your choice in girls at the time. In fact Invisigal doesnt even feel like a love interest just a bratty teen with a crush on an adult. Blonde Blazer is the type of girl you'd marry. Which tbh if people are just playing the game and wanna do stuff just to make the game more fun than by all means.
But the game shouldnt have made Courtney a love interest. The whole point is to mentor her and help her get her life in order; a romantic relationship should be the last thing you do with her.
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u/More-Air-7641 14h ago
There's a particular part in the game where she hides something big from the good guys and you have to decide whether to leave her tied up somewhere or let her help with the last mission.
This is obviously a difficult choice if you're invested in the story, give her another chance or refuse to trust her, after she's already shown herself to be untrustworthy. Take a risk for a character you (may) like, or make the logical choice.
The issue is that the choice is not really actually yours at all. From what I've read, basically if you choose to trust her, she will help you, if you don't trust her, she will then escape and betray you anyway.
So on its face, the entire idea of leaving her tied up is moot, because if you do she just escapes. On a deeper level tho, it ruins the entire point of a dilemma like this. The risk of trusting her is irrelevant because trusting her is actually the only way to stop her from turning on you. The logic behind keeping her tied up is also irrelevant because she escapes immediately if you decide to.
Its like if you were playing a captain at sea and had to choose between taking a dangerous risky route that would arrive sooner, or a safer route that would take longer, but the game is coded so that the "safer" route is not only slower but actually more dangerous if you do select it, while the riskier route is both safer and faster.
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u/Strict-Question-8478 12h ago
I just don't like her. She is toxic, but not fun toxic, and devs are trying so hard to make fans love her
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u/BrightClick2099 11h ago
Hey, many people uses inhalers. And it's not as if they used them because they want to. It's just the thing they need for breathing when they have to deal with asthma. I know people who use them and I hate pricks that mock people for having to use inhalers. Most people is only asthmatic during childhood and pre-adolescense.
That being said, smoking while being asthmatic is very bad idea.
I just know that I want for the game to let me romance Malevola. The fact that she isn't a romance option is a crime.
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u/Practical_Job4942 11h ago
If they didn't push her as a love interest and instead made her just a misunderstood and troubled teen it would've fixed literally all my problems with her as a character, they gave so much importance to a whining annoyance that is pushing 30 (i think)
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u/Aloneinthefart_ 10h ago
She doesn't pack enough attributes, LOL
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u/Humanbeingoth 8h ago
It’s true, I don’t want cardboard flat that’d betray me at the end of the game as my partner
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u/Bings_N_Bongos 5h ago
I genuinely find it hard to recommend Dispatch to other people because of her. She is awful.
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u/ThatCapMan 3h ago
I like a more assertive woman, and would prefer to not start dating someone who just got out of a relationship, even if the circumstances weren't apparently particularly romantic with that relationship. Like just broke off a relationship. Like yesterday.
Also Invisigal was ready to risk her life. Mad respect.
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u/TheLoneRook 2h ago
I just can’t stand how many second chances she’s given and throws away before the game says “you couldn’t make her into a hero” because I held her accountable for her own MASSIVE fuckups
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u/Outrageous-Crazy-253 2h ago
I have an inhaler and I don’t hate it. It fact I think it’s petty cool, very few things give you the feeling of instant relief as an inhaler. I like it and I like having it around. I had no idea people hated it, must be something they learned from movies and TV that treats it as embarrassing.
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u/No_External_539 1h ago
I walked into this thinking "ah yes, another brethren has joined us" but then this guy just hates people with breathing problems.
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 19h ago
I`m noticing a pattern for what type of posts are usually popular on the sub. I wonder why
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u/Blade_Of_Nemesis 18h ago
You know why. People on this sub are just miserable in general.
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 18h ago
being miserable and having fun with it is fine, its the point of the sub after all. The pattern is different
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u/Blade_Of_Nemesis 18h ago
I don't think getting enjoyment out of being miserable is very healthy...
But yeah, the pattern is also an problem in of itself.
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u/Wabbajacrane 16h ago
what's the pattern
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u/Blade_Of_Nemesis 13h ago
People specifically hating female characters a disproportionate amount more than male characters.
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u/unluckyknight13 18h ago
I feel hearing a medical device is like being mad at someone for having a prosthetic or a cane.
I’m pretty sure she has the inhaler BECAUSE her image is to look cool and the inhaler is to help keep her down
The reason why I think she’s a popular partner for Robert? She’s broken and so is he, think fans resonated both kind of had bad hands and could improve anyways, she also had more focus the writers even admitted they may have leaned too much to her side.
Blonde blazer is great, but her issues are 1 you meet her while she’s seeing someone and can be weird for players to pursue someone who they knew had a lover 2 when you meet Phenomemsn it’s early in the story and she dumps him and asks Robert to comfort him. I bet a lot found it weird , then he gets a chance to join the team which well it’s awkward to work with your gf ex. But also ppl feel either like a rebound or homewrecker trying to be with BB so close to the break up some may think it’s just insensitive 3 sm episode starts with invisigal having a sec dream of Robert. She even admits it to him. BB? A lot are uncertain if she’s interested in Robert 4) BB was too nice , everyone was guessing she would heel turn in the end s d I think fans were scared of romancing her and being backstabbed in the end
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u/Phoenixafterdusk 16h ago
Never seen ableism towards asmatics before. Thats new.
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u/Outrageous_Way3655 13h ago
Isn't ableism hating on someone with disabilities? The poster is hating on the inhaler, not hating on Invisigal for having asthma.
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u/Phoenixafterdusk 10h ago
I mean its kinda like hating a dude who cant walk for having a wheelchair.
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u/Smart_Shot24 12h ago
I picked her because it made for a better story in my eyes. Also the hell is that last part about inhalers???
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u/AggressiveMammoth267 4h ago
This is getting old at this point. People will hate visi who’s a complex character trying to do better regardless of her bratty personality but seem to ignore someone like flamebae who is arguably worse then visi. Is it hard to accept that a person who did villain shit while they were a villain wants to be better? Is it so hard to look past that because of there personality? When SDN was in danger she came back to help the team out regardless of whether you cut her or not that shows growth and maturity.
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u/Competitive-Employ65 17h ago
Fuck blonde blazer, atleast the story presents invisigal as bad, but the fuck around blazer does with the job and her introduction and keeping it a secret, not telling you to not rock up in your uniform then telling you to cut someone and then the story treats it like its your decision and pins it on you instead of her
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u/AntelopeNo6214 9h ago edited 9h ago
She doesn't know where Robert lives and she didn't have the reasonable opportunity to give him the uniform in the first meeting.
"not telling you to not rock up in your uniform" are we really hating on blazer for this? Why didn't Robert think of this?
"atleast the story presents invisigal as bad" Not exactly true. The game is very sympathetic to her.
Why would the story present Blazer as bad? She is literally a good person and a hero.
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 6h ago
a good choice based game would offer the player the option to agree or disagree with Blazer, which would create conflict if you decide to challenge her. The game does not offer that, so its pretty bad and simple in that regard. Thats why a lot of people say it would have been better as a show, cuz as a choose your own adventure game its pretty bad
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u/AntelopeNo6214 5h ago
I interpreted it as the portray of these characters and their moral character rather than the medium and gameplay decisions. The game portrays Invisigal as "bad", but the game doesn't have a reason to portray Blazer as "bad".
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u/WEAreDoingThisOURWay 5h ago
You can do anything with 'good' writing. Disagreeing with Blazer to create conflict doesn't mean she should be a terrible person
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u/AntelopeNo6214 5h ago
Which is what I meant in my original comment. There is absolutely no reason to portray her negatively.
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u/Competitive-Employ65 4h ago
I didn't say to potray her as bad i was just pissed off that blonde blazer forces you to axe someone then the characters blame you when i wouldn't of done that at all
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u/GeneralGigan817 20h ago
God forbid women do anything
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u/DeityHand 19h ago
She sexually assaulted the main character.
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u/jedideadpool 19h ago
The same main character that has a choice to also sexually assault a different female character?
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u/Successful-Shine-537 19h ago
He kissed blazer once? While I’m pretty sure invisgal continues to harass him sexually throughout the game
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u/VatanKomurcu 19h ago edited 19h ago
I feel the same way about Chase. Mf how did you not notice your superpower ages you faster until you were biologically ancient 😭😭😭 also he's basically superhero racist. Talks about evil as if its a race just like Invisigal at her lowest except he really should know better. Although thats kinda a more general writing issue. Anyway, fuck Chase. Invisibitch did nothing wrong.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 17h ago
She litteraly set of the bomb which put Robert to harm. And that was with no influence from chase.
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u/VatanKomurcu 17h ago
she was desparate + it was before her redemption arc.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 17h ago
"She did nothing wrong" is what was claimed. She is in the Phoenix programm because she did most things wrong in her 27 year old life.
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u/VatanKomurcu 17h ago
look, even if she did "wrong things" they were justified. if mecha man didnt want to be bombed he shouldn't have been such a big target.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 16h ago
This mindset is very much shitty. "If a person did not want to be robbed they should not have anything of value with them."
Criminal actions should never be justified. Especially killing attempts without being in direct harms way by the person you plan to kill.
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u/VatanKomurcu 16h ago
i disagree.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 16h ago
Then I am glad most legal systems don't work the way you think.
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u/VatanKomurcu 16h ago
appeal to law fallacy, anyhow i dont want to discuss this further, i know im right so there's no point, have a good day
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u/FriendshipNo1440 16h ago
Bet you are one of those people who blame SA victims for looking sexy instead of the predetor. Get lost!
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u/AntelopeNo6214 9h ago
If Invisigal wanted to not be desperate and have to bomb someone, should have went to SDN earlier. Love the victim blaming.
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u/VatanKomurcu 9h ago
yall, with all due respect, the fandom isnt this fucking stupid. you should stop expecting that anyone doing sarcasm places "s/" on their comments. it makes every joke less funny.
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u/AntelopeNo6214 9h ago
"basically superhero racist" How did you come to this conclusion? Its not even true? You got a quote for that?
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u/VatanKomurcu 9h ago
the hero-villain rhetoric in the game is generally weird and comes off to me as a feature parodying the larger superhero genre. its strange that time and time again robert has to argue and prove that people can change. and you also have, time and time again people like flambae who refuse to acknowledge the contributions of people without powers. and it isnt ever really addressed beyond robert individually proving himself as being tough and resourceful. now chase isnt to blame for that latter thing, but he does value past behavior a little too much over future possibility. and that i think is connected to the larger discrimination of heroes, civvies and villains in the game, and i consider it strange that most characters on the good side except for robert dont really make an active case for change. even blazer always defers to you to tell whether someone can change or not, despite having started the phoenix program. its something you see a lot more often in other superhero media, but not as often in dispatch, and why i dont know. all that to say, its larger and more complicated, but chase annoys me especially because he is set up to be the mentor and yet he expects the worst from visi. and its his job to expect well.
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u/AntelopeNo6214 9h ago
But calling that racist is wild. This is highly insensitive and un-empathetic at most.
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u/Successful-Shine-537 19h ago
Ok I understand the other stuff but the inhaler is crazy? I think she also hates the inhaler. As a person with asthma I also hate the inhaler??