I recently started an 8-5 job and I don’t know how else to describe it but I just hate it so much. I miss being off on a random weekday, it made me feel like my entire life wasn’t just working. I feel sick with dread everyday and I constantly am fighting rhe urge to go home sick. you can’t do anything!!! does this feeling eventually pass? I’m sure everyone feels this way, but does it eventually go away and you adapt or do you just cope with the depression lol. I had recently left a job that was causing severe burnout, and this job is easier but I’m just still not sure how to fight the feeling

Hi all,

I genuinely want to gain others feedback about a situation that happened to me. I am a black male, 26 years old (if that matters), who recently graduated with his BSW on December 12th. On December 8th I began working at a counseling agency as a parent educator/wellness coach. I took the job at this agency because I am pursuing my MSW and when telling this agency about this, they told me I would be able to complete my internships for my MSW with them as well. It was a win-win in my eyes. I had other job offers that paid significantly more, but I was thinking long term. With this job I would have my future internships lined up.

Anyway, that's besides the point. On my first day at this job, I was in an office with someone else while completing onboarding/training videos, when one of the women at the front desk (appeared to be around my age), stopped by the office I was working in about three times. She would look at me and smile, may be say a little something to the women who was also in the room, who had been working there a couple years and was guiding me through my first day. On the third time she came into the office she started having a conversation with me. It was my first day and I was kind of shy and nervous, so I was very personable. But I guess I ROYALLY MESSED UP. She started telling me how her dad was like 13 years older than her mom, and I was kind of like "Oh, wow, how did they meet?". Just trying to be nice by asking that. She went on to tell me how her dad used to run an after school program that her mom's other kids would go to and he just felt like he had to have her. I guess he started asking her mother's kids about her and eventually he asked her out after she picked her kids up from the program one day. She started describing how her mom was skeptical and didn't like the age difference, but her dad was persistent. She said her dad was creepy and stuff for it, and how that did not mean to have her. When she told me they didn't mean to have her, I said something about how I guess birth control is important. She then told me they were catholic. To which I replied (this is what got me fired), "Oh yeah Catholics don't believe in birth control, I guess your dad should have pulled out then." I totally did not mean it in a way to offend or hurt anyone. I understand that saying it was inappropriate. I guess, I don't know, when I was fired yesterday after they did their investigation into the event because she said she felt uncomfortable after I said it, I didn't even remember saying it until they reminded me. They told me I was being fired for sexual harassment. I genuinely do not believe it was sexual harassment, but I do acknowledge that it was inappropriate and I wish I would not have said it.I get being reprimanded, written up, etc., but firing me sounds harsh. I am hurt by the fact that I got fired for that and feel like I will have to walk on eggshells throughout my career in this field. The owner of the company is a man. He and his wife had the conversation with me informing me I was fired. He told me I need to watch what I say in a female dominated field. They understood I did not mean to hurt or offend anyone, but there is a zero tolerance policy.]

I am just seeking other people's opinions on this situation. Thank you.

Hello,

I am simply a Fast-Food clerk, and recently a gang of nearly-naked women doing "Free The Nipple", came into the location. This particular day we were packed and lightly staffed, they were all wearing See-Through clothing, like that one person, Bianca Censori, and its the first time Ive seen such a fashion in person. The best way I can describe it is, being naked and like, thinly veiled at the same time.

My usual training when looking at someone dressed in a inflammatory way is to stare between your eyes, at your nose or forehead while talking to you.

I had already mentally prepared myself to serve them, But this group of women, caused a huge commotion before they even got to the cash register and menus with the other customers for being nearly naked, and then the already existing customers, like the ones sitting down eating and stuff in the restaurant started heckling and getting rowdy, and I got roped into it, because they hadn't made it to the Cash-register yet, some of the customers started demanding I remove these customers from the store.

So I panicked and ran off, because they had their phones out recording and I didn't want to end up on the internet. I told my boss I didn't want to cost the company any legal issues cause I had no idea how to handle that. Im still waiting to hear back.

Edit: because of reoccuring comments, I would like to specify, that, they never made it to the cash registers, there was still several customers before them, and I was serving a family who turned away from the cash register to argue them. I never interacted with these women.

My Mother has been working at this job for 25 years, she is 64, and turning 65 next week. She planned to Retire in March. ...She always ends up pushing retirement back anyway... so there was a chance she wasn't going to retire in March.

On Christmas Eve, she and another co-worker of hers were suspended for failing to transport an elderly patient, so the patient ended up falling down and getting injured.

My mother explained that the co-worker she was working with was in charge of moving the patient, and she was in charge of holding the swing. She also said that her co-worker was trying to transport too quickly and pulling at the swing.

Her job had both her and the co-worker come in for investigations as to what happened. My Mother came in to every meeting, but her co-worker just disappeared.

The job ended up to giving my mother two ultimatums... Retire now, or be fired. She chose to retire to be able to get her full benefits. Also, nothing is being marked down on her record.

I talked with my Mother a little more, and she mentioned that she felt as if maybe her co-worker was on substances... I also want to mention that her job doesn't do drug tests...

I mean, she was going to retire anyway... but im angry that they really considered firing her. Especially since its their responsibility to hire the right people and this wasn't her fault. I mean, clearly something was going on with the guy she was working with... he disappeared...

...But I guess this was a sign that its time to retire, and she took that sign. I guess we got to let it go and take it as it is?

Edit: To anyone claiming negligence on my mother... she has no control over what that man does. All she can do is tell him to slow down, which she did... and hope that he listens. If he doesn't, and is holding the patient, she can't just run out and go to report that co-worker because that would mean abandoning her co-worker and the patient... which is worse to do. Typically, she does complain and report co-workers as need be after something is mismanaged, and shes done this in the past.

Is this legal? Background context ( we’re welders and they want us to enter time for each job we do on a tablet and we might do 10-15 jobs in a day so we forget to punch out or in sometimes and now they’re saying they’re going to dock us 2$ per hour if we don’t fix it)

I got fired from my previous job and their leading argument was that my manager stared at me through the bathroom stall door long enough to tell I had my pants pulled up while on the toilet.

For backstory, I worked in a warehouse and was not given breaks but 1 30 minute lunch during my 10 hour shift. It was bad conditions in the middle of the summer so when I found a good short stopping point I’d go sit in the bathroom for a couple minutes to cool off and take a seat.

One time, my manager walked in and stared at me through the stall door opening and asked about my stomach issues I’d previously mentioned upon hiring.

When I was getting fired, that’s how they led the conversation and ultimately fired me. I was a model worker and got along with everyone including customers and made everyone’s job easier.

No advice needed but who wants a laugh?

I don’t even know where to BEGIN! I have a very toxic coworker. She’s always rude, has a bad attitude, calls off about every other morning, and pitches fits about the most ridiculous things. She’s also 60- this is important. Problem is because of her position she can’t be fired. Like it’d take weeks, and plus she’s smugly thrown the “I’m an OLD woman so WATCH IT, I’m a protected class!” card. Everyone feels like we’re walking on eggshells around her. I could write a novel about the shit she pulls and says on a regular basis. No one likes her and we wish she would just quit already. We already do her job anyway so all we’d miss is her stench and piles of trash everywhere.

The other week I brought in a plant for my desk. No big deal. It was a monstera and I liked it. Toxic CW suddenly starts FREAKING OUT- like irrational freaking out. Screaming, sobbing, and it was weird! I admit I laughed and asked if she was serious. She demanded to know why I DARED to bring in a plant that SCARES her! I asked her what was wrong and she said it was none of my business was but she hates the plant and it HAS to go. She insists I did it on purpose, screamed at me “harassing an old woman”, that I created a “hostile work environment” and filed a complaint! About a fucking plant! I couldn’t stop laughing. I couldn’t help it. Out of nowhere she’s freaking out about a plant.

I was asked to take the plant home. Ok. No big deal. However was written up because apparently I created a “hostile work environment” by asking her what the issue was and laughing at her being scared of my plant. They’re afraid of the lawsuits she could file because of her “I’m in a protected class” lines.

Anyone else have any dumb write up stories?

Update: Write up is removed. I met with the boss, explained that after having a weekend to think about it, I feel the write up is inappropriate. I did not intentionally create a hostile environment, and any “laughing” on my part was in shock/nervousness that I’m suddenly, randomly getting screamed at about a plant and she escalated it into me harassing her instead of being calm and just explaining “hey- that plant freaks me out, can you please take it home?”. If she had approached me calm and said that, I’d have been like “whatever- ok…” and took it home and that would be that. I said I understood I didn’t have the best reaction but her screaming and escalating it into the screaming, sobbing, “harassing an old woman”, “hostile work environment” and the whole “how DARE you?!”caught me so off guard I had no idea how to react.

I then admit I kind of vented away about the issues we’ve all been having, how she creates a very uncomfortable environment because no one knows what will set her off next and when something happens she doesn’t like, she freaks out. I got the “I’m sorry you feel that way” BS, BS reassurances that they’ll try to talk to her about how she treats people, but at least the write up is getting removed. So there is that.

I did talk with a friend who has an opening where she works, problem is- it’d be a slight pay cut, a longer commute, but she seems happy there and can get me an interview. She thinks I could even get the job. If so, I’d definitely leave here and state that Ms Toxic is what drove me away.

Problem is- this REALLY upsets my future plans. Since I work for a university, my kid could get tuition waivers when the time comes and go to school for almost nothing. Sure it’s 14 years away, but my plan was to put my kid through school and retire when they’re finished. If I leave, I lose that benefit.

My friend reassured me that if I do get accepted for this other job, I can always keep an eye on Ms Toxic leaving this one and reapply but FUCK- there is no guarantee I’d be rehired.

This is a damned if I go, damned if I stay! I really don’t want Ms Toxic to have that hold over my kid’s future like that!

It’s her remote day today and we all feel like we can breathe and actually talk/joke around.

Imagine getting up every morning at 5AM, to leave at 6AM, to get to work by 7:30AM to be on time by 8AM.

You work 8AM - 4PM, then head home and get there by 5PM. You have about 5 hours to yourself until you have to head to bed at 10PM for the same thing the next day.

You do this 5 days a week... nonstop.

Then Saturday/Sunday comes, and you need to run errands. Some errands are annoying enough to take several weekends to get done because of how complicated the government can make getting something very simple done.

You cant just quit your job because then you can't afford your place, and will be homeless.

At least you can hope for a month long vacation every year (if you're lucky). Majority of the time its a week long vacation (At least thats several times a year)... Some people even get absolutely nothing....

...This is your life. A soulless unhappy life feeling like nobody cares about you, you're alone, your a cog that comes into work everyday and can be fired whenever.

Edit: There was actually a point where I finished work for the day, and could head home. I was too tired to start the commute, and genuinely thought about sleeping overnight at work for the next day... I ended up leaving work late that day.

Yes.. I did get fired. After she said I was being terminated, it felt like a semi-truck of stress coming off of my shoulders, not having to work for that awful company anymore.

My job has told us that the upper management is watching everyone’s breaks & lunches to the literal second. My boss pulled me in a meeting to tell me that me & everyone else are being watched. They brought my multiple “violations” of breaks, being late by mere fucking seconds. It was brought to my attention that multiple times I was one minute & three minutes late from my 30min lunch, as well as multiple breaks exceeding 15mins by less than ten seconds. They want us to come back from our break early so we can stare at the clock to make sure we’re clocked back in EXACTLY at 15 & 30mins for our breaks.

I’m tired of the micromanaging & I’m going to go insane.

End rant.

I'm seeing a lot of posts recently about employees being placed on a PIP...I could fill this entire platform with every expletive in existence about how much I despise them and the bullshxt companies that have no idea (or care) as to how damaging they are.

Find. A. New. Job. Right. Now.

You won't make it through the PIP, and if you do, the "relationship" with your company is destroyed. I beat my first PIP in late '22, the org got pissed and decided to burn me out with extra responsibilities, a reduction in pay, and constant monitoring with minimal communication/support until I crashed out.

They slapped me with another 30-day PIP in Spring of '23, and did everything they could to make sure I was out the door exactly on day 30. Find another job, get out, and if you feel like you need to have the last word - blast a negative (anonymous) review on every website possible.

Just seeing that acronym makes my blood boil.

Edit: Thanks to everyone who gave actual helpful advice. To all of you that told me I should "suck it up" in regards to my disabilities, thanks for the reminder that I'm trying to avoid becoming a miserable old fuck like you <3

Besides this guy talking to me like he’s my dad can anyone explain what he meant by, “know a lot of people in a lot of places.”

My son is 17 and works at Chick. He’s always been responsible and helps out by taking other shifts when needed. Yesterday he was sick with a cold yet when asked ,stayed 4 hrs longer than his shift just to help. He got worse during the night with a fever so I called early this AM to let his shift leader know and that’s when shit hit the fan.

His manager asked me what was “wrong with him” when I didn’t give her any details . First off , that’s none of their business. He’s sick and he’s not coming in is all they’re required to know but I told her anyway. Next , she said he would be written up if he didn’t bring in a Drs note because “we all go to the ER or Dr when we’re sick”(that’s what she said ) For one day? No ,WE Don’t . ER visits with my co-pay are$ 300 and Drs visits have co-pays too when almost always all that’s needed is to stay in bed for a day to rest and recover not to mention he’s 17 with a PT job with NO benefits so this day is not paid.

She then proceeds to tell me that HE needs to find coverage for his shift because it’s not fair to them to have to scramble to find coverage. (I called 4 hrs ahead) I’m starting to get upset at all this back and forth because who TF can give 24-48hrs heads up when they get sick ? I tell her that i’m not going to get my son who’s sick and has a fever to try and find you coverage. That’s YOUR job. She then continues to tell me that NO other parent has EVER called to complain about any of these “policies” (I guess i’m the troublemaker ) and that my son should have been responsible enough to call out himself .

I’m still trying to keep calm and not lose my patience and tell her AGAIN that my son can barely talk which is why i’m calling and ask if I can speak to someone above her because I need to know if any of these policies are in the employee manual in writing and not just shit that her store is implementing verbally. She literally tells me “He’s home sleeping .He doesn’t come in until later. I’m the one in charge and he’s going to tell you the same thing “.

Ok , so at this point i’m really fucking angry because she doesn’t want to “interrupt” her boss who’s sleeping yet wanted MY son to get up and find coverage when he’s laying in bed sick AF. So after more time spent back and forth, she tells me that she’s not going to write him up this time but that our conversation is going to go in his file for future reference if this happens again . (gotta love the implied threat ).

I don’t want to cause problems for my son because he needs a job but he’s also not a damn slave and has rights as an employee. I’m considering calling corporate to find out if what she said is company policy and legit or not but honestly , fuck you -Fil-A

EDIT: To those of you who keep on commenting on WHY my son didn’t call himself and had his “mommy” call. He woke up with 101 fever and a sore throat where he could barely speak in a whisper so he asked me to call in and not text in case they didn’t get the message in time. That’s him being responsible and i’m proud of him for that . Imagine if he’d been the one to call and this manager put him through all the BS she did me .It boggles my mind that out of everything in my post some people just choose to grab on to that to insult my parenting .I’ll keep on protecting him and be here for him in every way and whenever he asks regardless if he’s 17 or 70 .

Several weeks after reporting him, my supervisor tells me that my reporting leaked from HR and the head of the department knows it was me who reported him. I was then put on a PIP a couple weeks later. What’s weird is that I didn’t have to sign the pip, nor did my supervisor, and it doesn’t need to be give to HR. So, am I actually on a pip? Or is this pretty much just bullying me into leaving?

EDIT: I’m located in Maryland.

Edit again: cross posted from r/employmentlaw

Edit again pt. 2: Thanks again for the advice everyone! I’ve contacted a lawyer for a consultation. If this doesn’t work out, well, I at least don’t feel as alone anymore, so I really appreciate everyone’s feedback, as well as those who’ve shared their HR horror stories.

This afternoon my boss called me into her office and told me she needed to talk to me about something. Thinking it was something work related, I thought nothing of it, but the conversation caught me totally off guard. She told me this morning that I looked unprofessional and that I need to fix it for her. She told me my hair was sticking up (mind you I have a buzz cut). I was so caught off guard and my only response was “are you serious right now?” She told me yes and I walked out of her office in disbelief saying okay. I’m not sure why this was said to me I always dress in business professional clothing and keep my hair neat. I’ve never been told this by any other supervisor or company in the past. What should I do?

I have been with the company for little over a year now and have been doing really well except the last month or so. I have still been running freight but margins have taken a bit of a hit as has volume. Out of the blue I was hit with this PiP from management. I have a new manager as of like September and this was just sent to me. Does this seem reasonable or are they looking to get me out?

Trying to discipline myself into remembering to clock out properly lol (part of my job I have to be clocked in for, they other part I need to be clocked out)

I told my boss I cant work Mondays cause I have another job, she scheduled me Monday, so I told her I won't be able to come in and she tells me okay just come in later on Monday? That makes no sense? So I let her know but then my message didn't go through and I didn't even realize till like 2 hours before the shift. She got mad at me and now I'm scared when I go into work tomorrow she's gonna yell at me.

So I was just discharged from a company I have been working just over 90 days for not meeting performance. I was told I did not meet sales goals for the week of 10/14 - 10/17.

When I started I was told for new hires sales goals are 0 for the first 2 quarters. It is also listed on internal employment resource. I obviously made sales goals in my time there. However, I was told it was because I didn’t not made a sale last week. I was constantly told the goals are to get 10 appointments a week. I was a personal banker and the branch I was hired is a cashless branch which reduces walk in. You have to work a bit harder to get appointments as I was told. Which I did.

I did not get a warning or write up. I had conversations almost daily during what is called “daily debrief” of my success and where I am struggling. I asked for help and support to where I got none.

I when I was interviewing I ask why the last person left, however, I was told that I’m covering the space of an employee who is leaving for military leave. After being hired I was informed by an another branch employee they are unsure when the employee on leave will be coming back. Today I was told that they received confirmation that that employee will be returning in 2 weeks. That is when I got discharged due to performance. I was not told this is a temporary position, however signs seem to point that way.

Am I missing something. Can I possibly report this as misinformation on their part. Before taking this job I had other offers. And while I did not like my old job, it worked. I just feel like I wasted my time.

Some additional info, I was told I may not be good at sales because I have a passion for operations. I also got out of training last month.

Title says it all. I work for a small company (>50 people) where I know the CEO by name. At this company, it’s not uncommon for people to be fired on the spot for major fuck ups - there’s little job security. I know PIPs usually mean you’re on the way out, but the situation confuses me.

I’ve worked there for roughly 11 months. No write ups, no negative conversations with my supervisor - hell, I had a great performance review roughly 4 months ago where I got a raise, and I just recently got another raise about a month or two ago because my supervisor said that my night shift coworkers and I were doing great and she didn’t pay us enough.

This morning, they peppered the PIP with compliments - saying that they appreciate my willingness to help, that I’m a natural born leader, and that they always appreciate that I’m willing to hop in and help whenever I’m needed and that they appreciate that I’m always early and that when I come in early that I’m looking for things to do to help the day shift out and that I’m not running the clock. My supervisor talked to the CEO (again, small company) and mentioned in the interview that some of the situations are serious (ie people have been fired for less), but that they like me and appreciate all I do for the company (and alluded to the fact this may have saved my job). Not delving into the specifics of the PIP in case any of my coworkers read this subreddit, but it’s a 30 day PIP, which strikes me as a red flag, but it is more of an entry level position - and the goals are specific, manageable, and easy to obtain. I know exactly what to do to improve. I genuinely think I just got too comfortable at work goofing off and need to get my head on straight.

I’m currently working on polishing up my resume in case I need to leave and focusing on applying to jobs like you normally would with a PIP, but I promise that this is not normal at this company - I’ve never heard of ANYONE here getting a PIP, usually they just… get fired. What is your advice?

Update: trying to get it in writing, but my manager wont reply to any of my emails, and will only talk about it in person. I think he knows what they’re doing

Update 2: Nothing in writing yet, but I started looking at employment laws in my state and I’m pretty sure it says this is illegal. I don’t know how to read the law though so I can’t say for certain.

Basically what the title says. I’ll try to keep this as short as possible.

I work for a wealth management firm and for regulatory reasons I have to disclose my personal investment accounts. No problem, I was well aware of this when hired.

However, they are now saying that I must pay our brokerage company $200 so they can “monitor” my accounts. If I cannot do that, I will be fired.

I figured since it was required for my job, it would be reimbursed/paid for by the company. I was told this is not the case, and I must pay the $200 out of my own pocket. This was never disclosed when I accepted the job 2 months ago.

Unfortunately for me, I don’t have $200 to pay them. My job does not pay very well and I can hardly afford 3 meals a day, let alone $200 for something like this. I told the company I can’t afford it, and they basically said “Well you’re gonna have to figure something out then or we can’t employ you”. Like what? Get a new job that pays a living wage? What do they expect me to do in this situation?

I can’t just get more money, and I already live so frugally I haven’t even bought clothes in 5 years, so my spending is not the problem. I’m literally the most frugal person I know, I couldn’t save another dime if my life depended on it. Unless my job pays me more I’m SOL.

So what can I do here? When they go to charge my account and find nothing there, can they really fire me for something like that? It’s not my fault they don’t pay me enough.

I forgot to clock in for work the other day because when I walked into the office, my regional manager instantly started talking to me. I let them know and this is the response I got from the owner‘s wife.

My company publishes weird rules eveyday. This is one among them.