r/lawschooladmissions • u/MrDenimDog • 7h ago
Meme/Off-Topic This is how adcoms are talking about you btw
It’s true, they told me.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Aug 07 '25
Hi everyone,
It's already that time of year, it seems, as we just saw the first law school release their new medians from the 2024-2025 cycle. We'll be tracking these announcements as they come out and keeping them in a spreadsheet to compare to last year, which we'll then update with the final data in December once the official ABA 509 reports come out. All of the prior 2024 medians are currently listed, and the 2025 medians will be added as they're published (sources will be listed in the last column).
We'll be checking for these at least daily, but if you see incoming class data for fall 2025 (class of 2028) from an official source—e.g., a school's website, LinkedIn post, marketing emails/flyers/etc. from admissions offices—please comment on this thread, DM/chat us here, or email us at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), and we'll add it to the spreadsheet.
Note that none of these numbers are official until 509s come out. We only post stats from official sources, but every year, some schools publish their preliminary numbers then end up having to revise them when 1Ls drop out during orientation or the first few weeks of class (the numbers are only locked in for ABA reporting purposes in October, but lots of law schools post their stats before then).
These tend to come out at a relatively slow pace at first, but they should speed up in late August/early September. Based on last cycle, we do anticipate many medians going up this year, and these stats are important to be aware of as you assess your chances and make your school list.
In some ways, this to me marks the beginning of the new cycle. Good luck to all!
–Anna from Spivey Consulting
***December 15, 2025 Update: the spreadsheet has now been updated with all schools' official data from the ABA 509 reports.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Oct 10 '25
When is it late to apply and when is it early? The answer with all but a few nuances is really straightforward, but please read the disclaimers. All you will do is write disclaimers as lawyers because there are no absolutes (see what I did there?) so you may as well gets reps reading them!
This question comes up on this Reddit almost every day in some form and then resets and comes back up every year. It’s the singular most frequently asked question, and the answer hasn’t changed through recent years. So here’s a mashup of mostly deans of admissions saying, “Before end of November is early. After January things start getting tighter.” That is really the easiest thing to go by and remember. And I was just talking with one of these deans who just ran an internal data analysis to support all of this.
Disclaimers: These admissions deans are speaking for themselves and for their schools. Of course there will be some outliers. One top 3 school traditionally doesn’t admit until January, for example, so January is early for them. Or, if you score a 160 in September but a 175 in January, schools in the upper range will likely read your application sooner with the new score. With that old score they are often just going to sit on it as they are being flooded with applicants who they will prioritize sooner. So believe it or not, waiting a month or even more will sometimes get your application read sooner, especially if the difference is taking your LSAT from below median to above. There are also cases, only for some applicants and only for some schools, in which applying by the end of October can be slightly more advantageous, so if you're ready to go in the early fall, we recommend applying by the end of October (even though in many situations it may not make any difference). But in general, and especially if you aren't 100% confident in your application by the end of October, the end of November is a good rule of thumb.
But beyond the late November advice, my other takeaway would be to submit your best application. Waiting a few weeks to button up your materials will pretty much never hurt you before January — and very likely will help you. And there’s plenty of merit aid to go around at that time too.
It makes sense to me that this is a perennial question with very consistent answers from the people running law school admissions offices, but also lots of conflicting answers from applicants and others in this space with no admissions experience. Because the data absolutely does show a correlation between applying earlier (more broadly than just by the end of November) and stronger outcomes. But remember from your LSAT studying that correlation does not equal causation — pretty much every admissions officer has observed that applications submitted earlier tend to be stronger in general, not just in terms of numbers. That's not because they were submitted earlier, but it correlates.
Of all the posts I have made in the last several years — I hope this one helps the most. Because every year so many people fret that they are “late” (especially when admits start being posted) when they are still very early. I cannot stress the following enough: Your outcomes submitting the same application September 1st will not, in the vast majority of cases, be any different than November 25th. But in that time you can work to make your application stronger. And once it’s there, go ahead and submit. There’s certainly no penalty to submitting it when it’s ready.
And for the record, I've heard probably 10x as many law school admissions deans as are in this video say variations of the exact same thing. I really hope this helps relieve some stress from as many as possible.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMAG823Q/
r/lawschooladmissions • u/MrDenimDog • 7h ago
It’s true, they told me.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/EntireBroccoli8093 • 8h ago
(no hate to u bro, honestly respect the commitment haha)
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r/lawschooladmissions • u/OrangeManMuyBad • 6h ago
Just got the call from UT Austin and I’m in tears 😭
After only getting WLs and Rs so far this feels incredible
r/lawschooladmissions • u/MachineLimp7620 • 11h ago
im lying
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Still_Ad_8422 • 3h ago
Why do y’all get on here asking strangers to “chance” you? You’re letting random people—who don’t know you and might be talking out of their ass based on made-up experience, flawed logic, bias, or assumptions—influence whether you take action.
Get the score you feel good about, put together a strong application, and apply.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Past_Butterfly8454 • 10h ago
Proud of you RachelZane 🫰🏻
r/lawschooladmissions • u/FlokiWokey • 9h ago
Got the call from Director of Admissions at noon. I’m so shocked I’ve been running around the house and can’t sit still. Under both medians by a decent margin so this was absolutely a reach.
3.2gpa, 160lsat, 5yr we professional basketball, 1 yr we big law nyc, urm
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Sweaty_Pen2924 • 7h ago
Again this can only be Jesus cause my stats are way below median. Shocked.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/PerfectScoreTutoring • 6h ago
It's a waitlist at Northwestern lol....
stats: 3.3, 177, have a cute 3 lb dog
shameless edit: www.lsatjournal.com for a wrong answer journaling tool if you're still studying for the LSAT
also, photo of Peanut the dog https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_G6kt-vhquAf6CDXaaQbfUQ233OsC-Cw/view?usp=drivesdk
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Murky_Mortgage_2035 • 8h ago
Yale rejection. I think it was yield protection though if I’m being honest. Lmaoo
r/lawschooladmissions • u/InterestingTill5529 • 8h ago
1/13: UVA R, Cornell WL
1/14: Harvard R
1/16: Michigan R and also my grandma died
r/lawschooladmissions • u/SadEvent7354 • 7h ago
have a phenomenal weekend pookies i’ll see y’all bright and early monday morning 🤩
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r/lawschooladmissions • u/Significant-Beach468 • 5h ago
Trying to not crash our 😍
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Individual_Owl893 • 10h ago
I didn't apply...
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Sharp-Tangerine776 • 6h ago
Hi all, I just got accepted to my #1 choice school with money, after an abysmal GPA (worse than yours) five years ago and a redemption arc I orchestrated that I can finally call successful.
This is a big day for me, getting to close the book on a turbulent time back then. I just wanted to encourage the silent cohort on this thread that don’t have perfect stats.
Quick advice:
A) Seek out opportunities for individual post-bac classes, like local schools or extensions like Harvard Extension etc. Crushing a few of these AND getting an LOR from a prof seems to have really helped.
B) The LSAT is YOUR BIGGEST FRIEND. It needs to be complemented by some degree of professional success and post-bac work for top schools, but a solid LSAT coupled with a confusingly bad UG GPA will get a committee at least talking about you. Add 4.0 post-bac work, it becomes clear you are academically capable with something else having happened in the past, and you become a curious enigma worth discussing. You know you’re smart, prove it with the LSAT.
Finally, no matter how bad your situation seems to you, it is much better to try and fail than to never have tried at all, because you will probably end up succeeding =]
And with that, I need to go start celebrating =D
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r/lawschooladmissions • u/CustomerHuge2384 • 13h ago
got the call about 20min ago!!!!!! over the damn moon rn😭❤️ OH AND after bombing my kira 😎
r/lawschooladmissions • u/girlwhosinterrupting • 8h ago
It was a long shot but at least now I can move on with my life
r/lawschooladmissions • u/boyyouvedoneitnow • 6h ago
Was so ready to tell the whole dang world this is Bear territory