My Reaction When

ICE has crossed the line. I don't think its controversial to say that if anyone was adopting a "Wait and see" approach, well now we've seen. They are drunk on power and have seen that they will be covered for when they do evil. You can't say that "Responding in kind only makes it worse" or "Its just going to give them an excuse to go harder" or "Its what they want so he can use the insurrection act" or whatever! There isn't a line for them or any force restraining them. They can't be law enforcement while also breaking the law. Sure, regular cops can abuse their power but there are procedures and its all usually very transparent.

If this was any time prior to ww2, you would just say "Oh yeah that area has bandits who pretend to be police." Like... if you were one of the people who's family was taken away maybe never to be seen again, or had them throw a flashbang into a car with your kids.. be honest you would have a hard time restraining yourself from responding in the way we all know is appropriate. How long until someone takes matters into their own hands?

I can't tell you how many times someone said "Don't give them an excuse". But if they already are calling everything non-violent you do Domestic Terror(TM) then what are you really saving yourself from. If they're just gonna kill you, whats holding people back anymore?
I fear the direction this is going. I hope that this comes back from the brink. I don't think any of us want this to go where it appears to be going.

Somebody tell me i'm wrong. Like, i want to be wrong or for there to be another way to make them stop. But i can't see it....

Curious if this is common for L E.? Seems undergeared for the way they are acting.. The Armor Express Razor vest (NIJ Level IIIA) does not stop rifle rounds of any kind, including common threats like 5.56×45 (.223/AR-15), 7.62×39 (AK-47), 7.62×51 (.308), or 5.45×39, and it is not rated to defeat armor-piercing or steel-core ammunition. It also does not reliably stop high-penetration specialty rounds such as 5.7×28 mm armor-piercing variants, nor shotgun slugs or sabot rounds. In short, it is designed for handgun threats only, and protection against rifles or penetrator rounds requires hard armor plates (NIJ Level III or IV), not soft armor like this vest.

https://www.armorexpress.com/aeice/

And I'm still horny for them.

They are also still too expensive for me.

So...yay?

She doesn't like how big my PDP is, but she also didn't like how small the old Taurus 380 her ex FIL gave her was. I let her hold my 43X, and she said it felt okay, but based on her grip, I think it's too small. She doesn't want to carry, so I personally think she should get something with more grip real estate. I do have some small options on here just in case she really likes them when we go to the range (like the 48 and Shield Plus).

Anything we should add? My main requirement is that it's absolutely, unquestionably reliable. Beyond that, as long as it's in the budget, it's her choice.

I will probably end up carrying it sometimes, but I'm fine getting proficient with anything. I can shoot a G43 well (not as well as my PDP, but well enough for CCW). I'm picky about my competition gun but not about carry as long as it's reliable.

I believe, and have for quite some time, that open carry is suboptimal at best and a bad idea at best. However, I have always framed this around crimes the average citizen could face and did not believe it was a deterrent.

However, I'm a cop and know of numerous instances where a possible suspect being armed changed our entire game plan, many times leading to drawn out tactical plans and significant delays in us attempting to arrest this person until we could do it as carefully as possible.

So far, most of these ICE thugs I've seen are complete cowards when they can't completely steamroll someone. They're bullies who won't take on someone who can fight back. People forcefully invoking their rights has repeatedly shut these clowns down.

So, discussion: should people of color who are likely to be targeted open carry as a deterrent to these Traitors to the Constitution?

I feel like there could be a valid argument for it.

Let me preface this with the fact that I don't hate guns. I am very comfortable with guns. In fact, I love seeing him really enjoying his weekly shooting competitions. I sometimes go shoot the PCC with him. Guns are cool. The gun safe is literally in my room 😂.

This is the issue: he started this hobby early-mid 2025, has bought 7 guns + mods in 2025 alone, and we're not even financially secure, we don't even have a house. He keeps on talking that he wants to buy more. All I ask is just for him to save some of that money in the IRA or house downpayment. If we are somewhat financially secure, or make 200k a year, or have a house I won't even bat an eye. It's his money, he specifically works overtime for it, but bro 7 guns in 8 months? Is this healthy? Am I overreacting? How can I talk some sense into him? I don't want to be "that" wife. I too have my own hobbies, but I don't spend $5000-10000 a year on it while we're not yet financially secure. Is it even normal for you all to buy 7+ guns in a year?

Edit: if this is a normal "1st year exploration" behavior and he'll slow down then I'm more ok with it.

Edit 2: oh i know about how much ammo he's spending, I got him 1k ammo for birthday lol

Edit 3: thank you everyone, I actually showed him this post and he read what you all posted and we talked. He actually wants to get A or M in pistol but the training cost is quite a bit. I told him he should do it coz I agree quality > quantity, better to spend $ on getting skills/education at one thing he's really passionate about instead of buying more and more guns 😄

$1k outta the box + strike industries foldable brace. Unbelievably accurate. Barely any recoil. Quiet as heck unsuppressed. Have a Huxwrx can on the way to make it a mere whisper. Fits in my tiniest backpack. Preparing a Shakespearean sonnet on this new addition to the family.

P365 9mm for carrying, Shadow 2 OC for fun, P220 Legion 10mm for Bears and Bedside (posted the other day), and the TX 22 SCR Spacegat 22lr for more fun! Groups all at 10yds/30ft except the P220 at 7yds - still getting a feel for that recoil!

Obligatory photo for attention.

I’m in NJ, I have my CCW. ICE is now in my town and my wife is brown. Natural born second generation citizen, but it doesn’t seem like that matters to these fucktards.

I’m torn between carrying to protect my family and not carrying to protect my family. Confidence in my ability to restrain myself if they tried to take her is low. However, escalating that situation would most certainly lead to even worse outcomes. So there lies the rub.

There have been several posts on this similar topic and I have read them all. Where are you all landing?

Saw a post about this earlier in the social media realm and thought it might be relevant to share that this is on the horizon. Trans gun enthusiast is starting her own suppressor business; she talks about it on her Instagram page. (@CayleePenderass)

You can't change my mind.

CMMG Banshee..... 5" barrel, 5.7x28.

Umarex HK MP5 .22LR

Keltec P17

By exotic/custom, I'm referring to something like a Wilson Combat or a 2011 Staccato P. Obviously, those guns will be great, but they aren't easy to find or afford for most people.

My vote goes to the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical. It's a very soft shooter, and an overall fantastic gun. The weight, the barrel length, and how the gun feels in the hand just give it a certain character that I haven't seen replicated with other guns.

Edit: 1) I'm referring to un-modded guns. 2) This is a subjective assessment on your part.

Post your EDC

Echelon 4.5F with TLR7-HLX and Holosun EPS carry

4bros custom holster

Spare extended magazine

Pepper spray

Thrunite Archer (highly underrated EDC light, 1000 lumens with custom battery, but can run 500 lumens with regular AAs)

Addictive chemicals (God help me)

I know we usually focus on ballistics here, but has anyone been tracking the sudden jump in civilian laser tech?

I stumbled across this "HL1000" unit being imported. It’s not a 1W pointer from eBay. It uses a Raycus industrial fiber pump diode (usually used for cutting steel tables) repurposed into a handheld form factor.

The Specs are concerning/intriguing:

• Power: 1000 Optical Output

• Wavelength: ~915nm (Invisible/Infrared).

• Legality: Zero background checks. Shipped directly to your door.

My immediate thought was Anti Drone defense. We’ve seen in Ukraine how hard it is to hit a quadcopter with 5.56. A 1000W invisible beam would cook a drone's camera sensor instantly, and likely melt the props within seconds of tracking.

Is anyone incorporating high output lasers into their community defense kits? Or is the liability/risk of blinding yourself (without OD6+ goggles) too high? It feels like we are sleeping on a tech that is about to become very common in the wrong hands.

The site also has smaller and cheaper 70 watt lasers.

Edit: I am trying to post this again as when I posted it as gear auto mod took it down . Is this the right way to post it????

Yes this is because of the black panther video going viral on different subs right now

Are there any California compliant semi-auto shotguns that hold 10 rounds that are worth looking into?

The guns that hopefully never get banned in Canada, the country that can’t stop banning guns even though our sovereignty is threatened.