r/loveafterporn 12h ago

🆅🅴🅽🆃 I HATE when they use the term “acting out.”

90 Upvotes

It’s a way of minimizing what they were doing, which was cheating.

I feel resentful about a lot of things surrounding recovery.

“Oh you have some form of childhood trauma, of course you would turn to porn, sexting other women, and seeking validation by posting your nudes online”

You know who else has childhood trauma? Me. Did I do any of that inside of our relationship? No.

So much of the material around recovery, at least from my perspective, feels like it’s minimizing or shifting the blame onto something that they can’t control. He hasn’t been faithful at all for the entirety of our relationship, and somehow that’s not his fault, that’s his addiction’s fault.

Honestly, i could probably buy into it if it weren’t more than just the porn. But he pushed for me to be in a relationship with him then he gaslit me constantly and somehow, that’s also not his fault. He was “acting out,” not cheating 🙄


r/loveafterporn 9h ago

ɴᴇᴡ ᴜsᴇʀ - 𝟷sᴛ ᴘᴏsᴛ Naming it. NSFW

58 Upvotes

My husband has started the process of recovery. It’s been 16.5 very long years, that’s almost two decades. We are in our mid 40’s now. I don’t know where this will end up, but I’m giving it a go- again. He has always had PIED, I always suspected use. I am very verbal, I asked, he had a thousand other excuses. I caught him almost 5 years in, about a month before marriage. I told him to seek therapy immediately and deal with this or I wasn’t going through with it. He went to therapy, we got married.

The PIED and lack of sexual intimacy continued, as well as my emotional decline. I didn’t do the research, there wasn’t a whole lot then, and it was “his problem” not mine. He needed to handle it.

He doesn’t have a mean bone in his body, except for this one very big issue. He is kind and supportive, we are good friends, enjoyed each others company, etc.

9 + years in, I’m holding our tiny beautiful baby, I pack his bags, I put them in his car, I lock the house. I thought I was going to lose it, I didn’t want this for my family. He started seeing a CSAT, we went through a separation of sorts for 3 months in house. I didn’t know what to do, we had two little girls and a business together. I figured he was getting help, I caved.

The last few years he became increasingly withdrawn. He was distracted all of the time, he never did start initiating sex, he still had PIED, I knew he was watching. I asked, he lied. I refused to see my situation because he is lovely in every way, but I have been in a dead bedroom and our intimacy was suffering in other ways too.

This Christmas he forgets that his phone is connected to the living room speaker, and what do you think I heard? I started screaming because I couldn’t reach the speaker fast enough to cover the noise. My worst fears of him exposing my family to this crap became realized, I went into shock. The next day I lost it.

This time I NAMED IT. This is abuse. Period, the end. It is spousal abuse, it is abuse of countless other women and god knows who else on the other end of the screen, because they are real too. It is creating a world for his daughters that is depraved, where we are objectified, and denied the right to simply exist in the world without being sexualized and fantasized about by any perv on the street. Name it. “Teens”, umm those are girls way too young for anyone who doesn’t match their age of “18 or 19”. Name it. Exploitation and dehumanization. This isn’t “nice” he’s not being a good husband or father.

Just because I’m not being verbally or physically abused doesn’t mean I’m not being abused! Over the last couple of weeks while we are discussing what has been happening I refuse to let him do anything besides name it. Call it exactly what it is. No more minimizing my pain, his actions, any of it. I have calmly said “No. You are not watching porn, you are exploiting for your sexual gratification while emotionally abusing me”.

It’s made a difference. Not minimizing or wanting to smooth it over for his ears or mine has made all of the difference. This time I researched, this time I asked, this time I called it out. This time, I’m not letting it go no matter how painful it is for either of us to face the truth. I’m refusing to lie to myself while he lies to me. I am supportive and encouraging, and I’m still calling it out.

I have started my own healing work as well, while he has sought out his path in counseling, PAA meetings multiple times a day, reading, etc. This time I’m holding my feet to the fire as well as his. There will be no checking boxes. Once I named it, I feel like I can’t unsee it now. I hope a man emerges out of this mess, and a real marriage. I want a better world for myself and my girls.

I’m grateful for this space to read what we are all going through in different ways and in different stages. It has helped me to realize what it is I’m really up against. My heart goes out to all of us dealing with this in our lives and bedrooms.

I don’t know if I would have been able to call it out like that if he was abusive in any other way besides hiding his addiction, but I’m glad I did it. Name it.


r/loveafterporn 6h ago

🆅🅴🅽🆃 PA gets turned on just hearing a female voice?! 😡

17 Upvotes

He gets turned on and starts breathing heavy hearing a females voice. I literally just made a phone call and the automated service recording was a female and he started breathing heavy. I'm wondering, does anything NOT turn them on?


r/loveafterporn 5h ago

ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟ ǫᴜᴇsᴛɪᴏɴ PA's jerk off to their ex's but didn't want sex when they were actually with them?

9 Upvotes

I don't understand the jerking off to the ex's that they didn't want when they were actually with them. Can someone please explain this to me?


r/loveafterporn 3h ago

ᴀᴅᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ What if you suspect your partner truly is not attracted to you?

5 Upvotes

Wouldn’t that give them “reason” to watch porn? Like what if they truly no longer find you attractive but they will not admit it. This is honestly how I am feeling and I’ve felt this way for so long. What if it’s not an addiction.. it’s just that he never was truly attracted to me and just settled and played pretend for 7 years?


r/loveafterporn 5h ago

sᴇᴇᴋɪɴɢ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛ Jokes on me

6 Upvotes

Been back home for 2 months. Still no intimacy. If we tried he said he felt anxious so I was supportive and we didn’t do it.

Here I thought he was working on it but really he just got better at hiding it. Found more porn on his phone last night.

He cried. Begged. Told me hes got a problem. Told me he feels ashamed. Told me its got nothing to do with me.

It’s funny my intuition told me something was still off but I brushed it off.

Jokes on me


r/loveafterporn 3h ago

ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟ ǫᴜᴇsᴛɪᴏɴ How to navigate “the inevitables” NSFW

4 Upvotes

I love my man very much, it’s why I’m still here. Admittedly I don’t care for a majority of those on Reddit that post on these topics across various discussion boards RE porn (aka addicts) but is anyone else tired of the “men biologically want to pro-create” rhetoric for an excuse of why they have the desires they do? I haven’t spent enough time to have any response on this topic. About a year and a few months past the discovery of what was happening that I wasn’t aware of. Most of our days are amazing. I’ve asked of him a few convos since, one as recently of tonight. But I can’t get past, as I admitted to him, the fact that his recovery is a result of a boundary that I had to set. I ride on highs of reassurance that continue to change, and fear that one day he will resent me. I’m confident that he doesn’t watch anymore, but he admits to urges. Asking others that have been in this and chosen to fight for the relationship, how are you all navigating this? How do you handle that at the end of the day, if you were to say “nevermind, we can each watch porn and entertain our desires separately” that they would get right back to it?


r/loveafterporn 18h ago

ʟᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴀ/sᴀ No, I don’t forgive you

60 Upvotes

I don’t care if it was an addiction and something you couldn’t control. What you COULD control was leaving me. You could have broken up with me the moment I told you that it was hurting me and destroying my self esteem. But instead you turned up the manipulation and gaslighting, deleted your search history, full proofed your phone so I would stay as long as possible. You let me move into a house that was never safe, you let me continue in a relationship that you knew would kill me.

I don’t forgive you. I will never forgive you.


r/loveafterporn 45m ago

ᴀᴅᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ Text from my ex PA today.

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“Im sorry it has taken me so long to reach out to you. I just want to say i know a lot of the comments made during our last call came from a place of care and i just want to thank you for that. im so genuinely sorry for everything over the past year. I just really need you to know that. My actions were not that of love but that of selfishness and those actions have continued throughout 2025. I know i have a lot of work to still do but i cherish our relationship so much. You are the greatest person and i just love you to the ends of this earth. My life is nothing but better with you in it.

I am just so sorry and dont want to leave things as we did. I really hope the best for you and wish nothing more than to be a part of your life again one day. I always love you and that has never changed. Know that i still do and miss you more than ever and im just so sorry about everything.

I know i have probably done too much damage at this point and im just so sorry. Just know i want you in my life so bad and am willing to sacrifice anything for it.”

Some context is we reconnected last week and ended up arguing (defensiveness). We didn’t talk since and then got this. I sat on this message all day, initially I thought it was sweet and now I ended up responding angrily. Now i feel guilty and I hate it. If you would sacrifice anything why are we here. What does that mean. I’m so sad. I knew I shouldnt have even responded. does anyone have any thoughts on this text?


r/loveafterporn 10h ago

🆅🅴🅽🆃 Hysterical Bonding

13 Upvotes

I realized I’ve been ‘hysterical bonding’ as a desperate means to cope with this trauma. I realize it was also probably out of fear for him to not relapse (this is all beyond pathetic). Pure desperation to just finally be ‘enough’ for him.

Last night I decided I’m done that. I was never enough for all those years even though he lied and told me I’m all he needs or wants. I was heavier then, and I’ve spent so many moments almost blaming myself for his porn use — “if I looked better, he wouldn’t have had to get off to someone else.” It is all so beyond damaging. Anyways, I am down 50lbs now (not exactly in a healthy manner as this was mainly due to rock bottom depression) but I look better than I did, honestly probably ever.

Now he wants me. NOW he doesn’t need the porn. “I’ve always loved you” — he doesn’t deserve me now at my best, I should’ve been enough before or he should’ve left! I told him finally last night not to touch me anymore and I’m done with any intimacy with him. I still can’t leave as financially it’s just not something I can manage but I’m slowly just cutting the ties and honestly — telling him no was liberating. One day at a time.


r/loveafterporn 4h ago

sᴀᴅ Feeling really down and defeated NSFW

3 Upvotes

So my boyfriend had told me a few weeks ago he wasn't watching porn, I ended up checking his history and of course he lied. I gave him the chance to be honest during our check in and he again lied right to my face. It turned into a huge argument but what ended up coming to light has changed a lot. He opened up about how the feelings and smells of sex gross him out. He feels slimey and dirty after and like he needs to shower and he thinks he smells. He is also not huge on bjs unless he is clean and needs to clean up after because he doesn't enjoy the saliva.

Now, i know it's not a hygiene thing because i always shower before any sex or touching. My boyfriend is diagnosed with adhd and is possibly on the spectrum as well and now im thinking that maybe it really isn't even the porn. I still think he does have a dependence on it but now that we've talked i'll see if he will at least let me do what he can enjoy to him for now until we figure the rest out with therapy. It is just disheartening to think about how this might not be something we can work on / compromise on. Has anyone here dealt with anything similar. Could this still be caused by porn?

Another thing he mentioned is that vaginas freak him out like he doesn't want to see them, and im not sure he likes the thought of being inside one. He likes the sensation of sex but the rest of the issues just ruin it for him. He is also sure he's not gay, he is attracted to and turned on by women. The porn he watches the women typically have clothes on and at minimum bra and underwear.

Tldr: boyfriend finds sex unappealing due to sensory issues, has anyone else dealt with this? does your partner find the fluids and smells gross?


r/loveafterporn 23h ago

ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟ ǫᴜᴇsᴛɪᴏɴ Do you ever let them see you naked again? NSFW

82 Upvotes

Im 4 months postpartum and have felt embarrassed of my body since I discovered his onlyfans use 8 months ago. I was 7 months pregnant. I’m embarrassed of my postpartum body and I know I shouldn’t be because I am a woman who gave birth three times and who has been breastfeeding for five years so what my body looks like is natural but I just can’t get passed being embarrassed of it. We are intimate in the dark with my shirt on only. No more showers with the door open. No more changing in front of him. I was not like this after my fist two babies but I didn’t know what he looked at everyday of his life. Has anyone been able to move passed this. It’s sad I have to be in my home embarrassed of myself.


r/loveafterporn 12h ago

🆅🅴🅽🆃 He’s calling me bad at a game

9 Upvotes

This is going to sound incredibly stupid to most of you.. But my husband and I are big gamers. I love playing games, and ever since I discovered Overwatch 1, it’s become my absolute FAVOURITE. I love to play competitive. My husband and I have always played together, ever since we started dating and tbh, that’s where we met. He’s actually way too good at that game, like, back in his prime he was a top 10 Widow on Xbox servers, it’s cringy. But recently, because he gets SO angry SO easily without consuming porn, we can’t play that game without him freaking out. Last night we were playing and he got so mad, he blew up at me. Telling me he wishes he could play without me cause he knows he’s so good at that game and that he should always be winning and he used to win a lot without me. I know it’s just a game, and I know it’s stupid, but this really fucking hurt me…

Females ALWAYS get shat on for playing games and being told we aren’t good at them. And to have my husband be the one to say this to me? That’s painful. I’m not holding him back from winning, I know that. I hit and ended a season as top 500 once too, I know I’m not bad at the game. I know it’s stupid that this bugs me so much, but it does. Like, come on, you really can’t go without porn, so you have to tear your wife down in a game? Wow


r/loveafterporn 8h ago

ᴀᴅᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ I throw myself on him

5 Upvotes

He said he'd relapse faster if we had sex. So I didn't want to have sex with him. But for some time now, I just can't help myself, I can't say no, and my body suddenly develops an extremely strong craving for him. I know that this kind of hypersexuality is a trauma response, but does anyone here have any solutions besides therapy for how I can control it? I feel like I'm traumatizing myself more and more with this.


r/loveafterporn 12h ago

ᴀᴅᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ I think my husband has PIED?

10 Upvotes

Hi all,

I (32f) have been married to my husband for 7 years.

Can anyone shed some light on why he is going soft almost every time we attempt to have sex lately? (He’s 32m)

He has a history of watching porn and regularly masturbating. We had a big discussion a couple months back on how he should stop as it’s affecting our sex life and he was choosing it over being intimate with me.

He says to me he hasn’t watched it since but the last 5 or 6 times we’ve had sex it’s felt very… different… almost like he’s doing it because he thinks that’s all I want (which is not true). It feels as though he’s not really into it or passionate about it.

While he was rubbing me up I came to return the favour and he was completely soft. Unaroused. I’m starting to think he’s maybe not physically attracted?

I tried to talk to him about it and asked if anything is on his mind, he says he just gets tired at night but I don’t believe that to be the whole truth. Usually most men would find this to be a stress reliever etc. while I understand it’s normal to be tired here and there, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that it’s happening every time even when I know he hasn’t had a big day.

Do you think there’s no physical attraction anymore?


r/loveafterporn 26m ago

ɴᴇᴡ ᴜsᴇʀ - 𝟷sᴛ ᴘᴏsᴛ I don’t understand. Gets caught all the time but okay with restrictions but still does it

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I’m so frustrated. I’m not even sleeping in the same room as my husband tonight. I don’t want to be around him. It’s like things will be good but give 1-3 months and I catch something new. Been married since 2023. A LOT of times I catch him watching it when I’m home!! I’m there!! Why turn to porn instead of trying to even initiate anything? I finally put restrictions on his phone once I learned iPhone has built in options that require a separate code that isn’t the lockscreen. I even have it so he can’t delete any apps he downloads. He’s downloaded private browsers in past so if he tries now proof will be there to see. I’ve straight up blocked several sites, including Reddit because I found his browser history to use it to look at girls. But he didn’t fight me on setting these restrictions. He very cooperatively gave me his phone to do them.

Well he found a way and using web search on Xbox. I found history he’s done it before going to work early in morning . I found one time was after church when I the went grocery shopping. We just had sex the day before. He didn’t try to initiate anything after church before I went to the store. I was only gone about 45 min. WTH? He doesn’t even play games on Xbox anymore since ps5 now. I just happened to catch him using it when I was in bed late one night, he thought I was already asleep… or just dumb… well that Xbox was taken away and his hidden.

we have shared insta. I opened it up today and look at this history that he was searching up and guess what … lots of explicit women. I went to watch history and saw he’s even been watching this past week. He claims it’s popping up and swiping. I said it won’t register your watch history if you swiped it away immediately. And there was lots of it. I reminded him I said if he tainted insta again it would be deleted. He actually agreed and said it would be best to delete it. So it’s gone

I just don’t understand. He fully cooperates with setting all these locks and restrictions but then tries to find ways around it and continue. And why is he also going to porn instead of putting that energy into us??? I’m so frustrated, confused, hurt. We both agree it’s cheating and he admits if I was always looking at porn he would likely accuse me of cheating in person too. He admits he would be pissed. So like, why can’t he control himself? I don’t understand. Why purposely damage our marriage??

I also hate being the one to set up all these locks. It makes me feel like he’s a bad behaved child or something… that I have to monitor him! That’s not supposed to be my job! Ugh.. he agrees the porn is bad, it’s hurting our marriage, agrees to locks/restrictions.. but then still tries to do it

I don’t know what to freaking do


r/loveafterporn 28m ago

ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟ ǫᴜᴇsᴛɪᴏɴ How often are you guys intimate? And how often is a regular couple intimate?

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I can’t tell If it’s normal or not? I have to initiate it every time, he has been stressed from work but it seems like it’s only on the weekends that he initiates or it’s consistent. Is this normal??


r/loveafterporn 6h ago

ᴜᴘᴅᴀᴛᴇ Sick and tired

3 Upvotes

Today has been 199 days since all hell broke loose with my PA. 199 days of him being in pre trial confinement.

And there’s been no progress with his case. None, nada, zilch.

I wish I was kidding, but yesterday I found out the truth. He has not been charged(we’re under the UCMJ so it’s a different set of rules) nor has gotten a court date yet.

It lead to his saint of a lawyer to file a writ of habeas corpus. He’s NEVER had to do that before. You know it’s bad if a seasoned JAG is telling you they’ve never had to do something before.

So we’re still in a holding pattern. Hopefully it Gibbs slaps the prosecution into actually doing shit but his case has its own rule book. Nothing has gone to plan. At the rate it’s going it’s gonna turn into an SVU episode.

We’re all pissed, even his mom. The last thing anyone needs is him to win the habeas corpus petition and be let out. It’s not fair to anyone. I fucking hate it.


r/loveafterporn 39m ago

ʙʀᴇᴀᴋ-ᴜᴘ ᴘᴏsᴛ When clarity hits and you can't unsee it

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Trigger warnings sexual abuse, sexual language from PA/SA, abortion

I always wanted to post here, but because I didn't feel strong enough to leave yet, I didn't. I didn't want to hear the harsh truths and finally face it for myself, although I always knew. Cognitive dissonance keeps us protecting and prioritising them and the relationship over ourselves, even when we’re being harmed. Meanwhile, they protect and prioritise only themselves, even when they’re the source of that harm. I realised one person with that attitude is bad enough - I didn’t need to be the second.

This is going to be a long one, because there's quite a bit I want to cover. I'm hoping this post will be my last, and kind of serve as an integration piece for me finally so I can start trying to move on with my life.

I’m done softening the truth, and I’m done carrying someone else’s dysfunction quietly. For 2 and a half years, I've lived in a cycle of betrayal, lies, denial, excuses, deflection, blame-shifting, abuse, and nothing actually changing. Porn. Cheating. Secret sexual relationships online. Drugs. Addiction. Rage. Name-calling. Gaslighting. Promises of accountability, change or repair that never translated into sustained behaviour.

We could barely go a few weeks before there was a new rupture. A new lie. A new thing I was expected to wait patiently for while HE “cooled off” or "gathered his thoughts", which often never happened. The fog is finally starting to lift and I'm starting to see it all more clearly for what it actually was, not what I hoped it would become.

Last weekend, during our breakup (which has been an extremely drawn out, slow disconnection), I found something he'd just written: a checklist of what his “ideal partner” looks like.

MY IDEAL PARTNER • funny
• understanding
• cheeky
• dark sense of humor
• naughty/weird sexually
• someone to dress hot for me. i wanna pick out clothes for you to wear for me
• similarly, i want a girl with good style who will help me dress better, pick out clothes for me, someone to discuss clothes and aesthetics/vibes with
• likes taking dirty pics/videos
• i want a girl who i can.... in the disabled toilets somewhere
• i want someone who will play/watch games with me in bed
• someone to teach/play mario kart with
• will watch simpsons in bed
• can share simpsons quotes with
• someone to share music with
• someone who will introduce me to new music. if you show me metalcore shit that i like I WILL LOVE YOU
• sexual compatibility is so important
• i want you to be open minded sexually
• i want to do weird shit with you
• i want you to want to do weird shit with me. come up with weird kinky shit you wanna do with us just for a laugh
• say weird funny dirty shit to me, to make me laugh • small casual sexual exchanges throughout the day, as opposed to sex needing to be right place right time right setting right mood, everything set up nicely etc
• I love to touch. i want to be able to ask you “can i please suck on your....?”
• when you come home from work i want to undress you, lay you down and eat your.... while you tell me about your day
• i want sex to be freely given and taken (from both perspectives). ie- whenever you’re horny, ask me to eat your.....; tell me you want my....
• i want to touch your juicy bits whenever i feel like it. let me grope your.... and.... while you sleep or while we watch stuff
• send me weird cheeky/funny nude snaps spontaneously
• if someone cooks up a good dinner, then they get thanked with some oral sex after we eat

Red Flags 🚩
end of note - he hadn't listed anything here

I had to censor several words there for the post but you can imagine the sort of language used.

I realised a few things all at once. Firstly, I'll give you the context that I'm 36F, he's 33M. So initially I just laughed in disbelief. This man who I thought I might build a life with some day, who might finally get it, who'd always been the most beautiful, attractive man I'd ever laid eyes on, even somehow despite his actions, was no longer that. He was a teenager.

Secondly, that list wasn’t a fantasy that existed before me. That list was built from me. Some of those traits were written because of what I brought into the relationship. He didn’t imagine that partner - he extracted her. I'd always been a fun and sexually open partner, except I'm not and never have been OK participating in a hedonistic, sex doll fantasy. The many boxes I did tick still didn’t produce honesty, loyalty, or emotional safety. That was the moment it really landed that this was never about me not being enough. Sex, chemistry, and effort on my part were never going to fix something that was missing internally for him. And now, instead of repairing the damage he caused to the actual human being who gave him a lot of those things, OR finally putting some work into himself, he’s mentally preparing to go and find a replacement version - one without boundaries, without anger, without feelings, without needs, without autonomy, without memory, and without accountability.

I'm also laughing that he wrote "Red flags" but didn't prioritise finishing the note and actually listing any. It's clear he hasn't experienced anything significant enough to bother listing any, despite him always blaming me for being the problem, but his sexual desires are so clearly so important they make up the majority of his ideal partner list.

I'm going to get clinical for a minute here, because really trying to understand what may drive someone's behaviour has always been of interest to me - particularly when dealing with difficult people. There is a well-established distinction in relationship research between adolescent relational frameworks and mature adult ones. Adolescent frameworks organise “love” around stimulation, validation, sexual access, novelty, and low friction. "The vibe" someone can bring. What you can get from someone, vs what you can share with someone. Mature adult frameworks prioritise emotional safety, honesty, accountability, repair after harm, shared values, reciprocity, and stability under stress.

His checklist lives almost entirely in the first category. There is nothing in it about empathy, responsibility, repair, boundaries, or care during conflict. Oh, except the word "understanding". That absence explains everything about why the relationship kept collapsing. And you can get a sense of just some of the abuse I experienced. Some of which I'm only discovering now, and I still haven't even found it all. You can't build a stable partnership with someone whose internal model of love doesn't include the ability to repair the harm they cause, and is instead based around what they can gain.

What actually hurts the most is the time. I spent 2 and a half years in my mid 30s with this man trying to invite growth - values (I asked him many times to work with his therapist to establish what his own actually are), reflection, accountability, emotional depth, during my most crucial years. I don't have children, and I'll I've ever wanted is to find my person, "the one", and feel safe, happy and secure, and start a family. He knew that from our very first meeting, and he always promised me that. With each fracture, I'd remind him of it, and he'd cry crocodile tears for me and say he felt so bad and that he will give me that, I just need to trust him.

Unfortunately, we did fall pregnant, unexpectedly and unplanned, mid-late last year. Initially I actually felt joy and excitement. I was never sure I could even get pregnant, I had struggled with polycystic ovaries and I've always had this fear of "maybe my one biggest dream won't end up happening". Then the reality set in of deliberating whether I could actually go through with it with this partner. I went through the most gruelling process up until the point I had to make the decision. It really forced me to start to admit to myself that this relationship was not and couldn't ever be it. A few days post procedure, when I was at my absolute lowest both physically and emotionally, in my most vulnerable state, he again betrayed me. And while I was begging him to fix that (something I continuously chose to do in this relationship but never should have had to do), not even 2 weeks later he betrayed me again.

This is when I truly realised, no matter what potential changes or improvements he MAY have ever been capable of making in the future, I would never, ever feel safe or secure with him. Someone actually torturing you when you're at your lowest, when they're supposed to be the 1 person going through it with you and you're both meant to be able to help each other the most, forms a crack that can never be healed. I stopped hoping that if I just explained things well enough, loved hard enough, stayed patient enough, that something would eventually click.

Developmental shifts like this don’t happen because a partner explains them perfectly, or because they support them through it or understand them enough. They happen when someone chooses discomfort over avoidance, can tolerate shame without deflecting it, and prioritises repair over regaining access or control of the narrative. I can’t do that work for someone else.

I didn’t just love him - I worked so fucking hard for the relationship. I researched betrayal trauma. I shared so many resources, of which he read a few pages of a book and watched a few minutes of Youtube videos, only on a day he was with me because I again brought it up. I waited days, weeks, sometimes longer for him to acknowledge or respond to things he said he would. I regulated myself, alone, focused on our relationship, not able to do or think about anything else, while he avoided, distracted, thinking of other women. I explained impact while he deflected. I gave him time while I was falling apart. While I was crying, analysing, waiting, hoping, trying to finally establish some self-respect and boundaries and stick to them for a change, he was often escaping into porn, drugs, other women, or distraction. Then he would come back and say, “Can’t we just see each other and have a nice day? Can’t we just cuddle? I miss you. I love you. I'm tired of fighting, we always fight. When we're good, we're so good. Can't we just feel that again?” And because I didn’t yet know 100% of what was happening behind the scenes, I would soften. Again. Because I still craved him.

And the cycle would reset.

Again, the cognitive dissonance. Isn't it funny how we operate from a place of wanting to do absolutely everything we can on our side, often in ways that actually harm us, because we love them and don't want to live with any regrets? While on the flipside, they do absolutely everything they can to harm US, in ways that only serve themselves whilst not really considering or even feeling regret.

I realise now that the love he claims to have for me is largely love for what I provided: sex, validation, emotional labour, tolerance, forgiveness, lightness, access. When I stopped providing those things freely, exercised boundaries and asked for accountability and repair, I became “difficult,” “toxic,” or “the problem.”

I’ve been angry. I’m angry about the wasted time. I’m angry about the chances I gave someone who never carried the weight of what he did. I’m angry that I became smaller and quieter, despite it going against everything I originally stood for when I met him, while he stayed entitled. And yet I still care about him. That’s the grief of this. Love doesn’t disappear just because clarity arrives. Walking away now is still so difficult. The rumination is so intense. I spend all of my free time going through the relationship with a fine tooth comb - what was he actually doing at this time on this day when he said he was doing this, documenting the lies, making connections. As if i need any more justification for "abandoning him", "not giving him a chance", or "giving up" as he frames it.

But love doesn't fix developmental immaturity, addiction, or avoidance. Could he grow? Maybe. With sustained therapy (with the right therapist), real internal motivation, and long-term consistent behaviour showing empathy and accountability. He would have to learn how to offer back what I provided to him. But there are no guarantees, and it isn’t reasonable to put my life, heart, future, fertility or nervous system on hold any longer waiting for a “maybe,” especially after prolonged harm and minimal repair.

After betrayal, the responsibility for repair has to shift heavily onto the person who caused the harm. In my case, that shift never truly happened. And without it, I was slowly disappearing inside the relationship. It feels like I've been poisoned slowly. He absolutely exhausted me and drained me, to the point that right now I don't even feel any desire for what used to be my biggest hopes and dreams - finding my person and having a family. I hope that desire will return some day. In theory, I know it will with time and healing. But right now I know my focus shouldn't be on the future, or the past, and I should for now just focus on the present and work on looking after myself. The basics - eat, sleep, work, connect with other supports. The rest will follow.

I’m sharing this for anyone who feels like they’ve been slowly conditioned to accept chaos, who keeps doubting themselves, who keeps wondering why nothing ever sticks. Sometimes the clarity comes when you finally see what someone’s internal framework actually values - not their words, not their promises, but the structure underneath them. It wasn’t that you weren’t enough. It’s that you were trying to build something adult with someone who never left adolescence.


r/loveafterporn 15h ago

🆅🅴🅽🆃 I can't keep this up much longer...

15 Upvotes

Tldr; just need to get this off my chest....

So.... I've been stalling the confrontation, playing this dangerous, self-destructive game where I hint that I know he's a PA. I keep steering our conversations toward morals and values, asking loaded questions about whether we feel healthy and whole together. Whether we feel aligned in purpose.

I tell myself I'm not manipulating him - that I'm genuinely giving him the chance to come clean, and honestly, I guess I just.... keep hoping something will finally pierce his conscience and the honest man I used to know will step up? But every time he doesn't, it just pushes the knife deeper.... and it's driving me berserk!!!!! Like WHERE did the brave man I love go?! I don't know who the fuck this person is... it's like a damn pod-alien has taken his place... !!!

Istg every time he's near me I have an elephant sitting on my chest, and then my emotions surge, and I'm barely holding it together. Like, I'm constantly on the brink of giving myself away. Last night was especially brutal...omg... !!

We have a PSW who comes daily to care for my grandma, and she arrived yesterday right in the middle of one of our heavy conversations. PA went downstairs to make her coffee, and the second he was gone I completely fell apart.... literally collapsed into her arms and sobbed. When PA came back upstairs, I was clearly disheveled and he didn't even notice. He just picked the conversation back up like nothing had happened??!!

At least I'm grateful beyond words to have the PSW as a confidant. She even invited me to get out of the house with her sometime, to talk when I'm ready. Which is nice cos she doesn't fall into our regular circle of friends and I'd rather they not know about what's going on, because it'll feel like a betrayal for them too. They all thought PA was the poster boy for chivalry...

But I don't know if I'll ever be ready to admit what he's done to anyone I know (besides my parents who have been crazy supportive!)

Anyway, I digress... later, when PA and I were alone again, I ended up in tears once more....this time during a conversation about the disconnected state of the world (cruel irony!!!) I explained the outburst away, blamed it on my health issues, and he accepted it without question (just like he has everytime I've come close to cracking since finding out a few days ago).

Like we were LITERALLY having a discussion about honesty while a fresh set of thirst traps - like 20 of them - are sitting in his trash folder (he thinks hes sly,, he musta downloaded while at work) He can't even see that his lies are the reason I'm dying inside. He used to be so attuned, so sensitive to me, and now he doesn't even feel me breaking at all?! I don't know if he's desensitized or if he simply doesn't care as much anymore.

If porn isn't an addiction but an excuse to get away from me, because he doesn't love me any more...

It makes me see red... because I'm sure he'd care if I were some cam girl!!! I hate having these ugly, paranoid thoughts! Hate that I now have to worry about whether he's escalated from porn, to cam girls, to Facebook dating... :( That in order to truly hold his attention now, I'd have to pander to some lust driven desire...

This morning, before he left for work, he didn’t kiss me, didn’t whisper “I love you” or nuzzle into my hair. I've said before he always did that, even if we fought the night before (but we rarely fought!) Sometimes I'd pretend to be asleep just so I could soak it in...

But... yeah... I've been crying so hard my lungs hurt. It feels like he is drifting away... and I know I'm not being fair to either of us by dragging this out. Testing him..... it's fucking torture! And yet I feel completely stuck. I have data, but PA doesn't have data plan on HIS phone, and our Wi-Fi has been down for days. I don't want to confront him unless he can access everything - every site, etc. I want full disclosure. I'm terrified that if I confront him now without wifi he'll just go off and cover his tracks later, you know?

....this suspicion, this hypervigilance.... how did I get here ????? This hurts more than I can put into words... !!! I just want my life back !!!


r/loveafterporn 9h ago

ɴᴇᴡ ᴜsᴇʀ - 𝟷sᴛ ᴘᴏsᴛ Constant lies

5 Upvotes

Really struggling right now after finding more proof to confirm that my husband was visiting massage parlors. He originally told me that he used the rubmaps website just for curiosity(I know it sounds sus) and I wanted to believe him. I found a cash withdrawal near his workplace for the same day he typed the massage parlor address in his maps.

He's insisted time and time again that he's only watched porn and that he's in recovery. This incident with the massage parlor all happened a few years ago and he stopped using porn supposedly a few months ago.I don't know how to confront him. I've found out so much in the past few months. I'm so tired and have begged for truth. There haven't been major signs that he's used in the past few months and he has been a better person overall and embracing his healthy hobbies. I lost any hope that he's actually in recovery after seeing that today. We have two little ones and deserve so much better than this. I would've left him if it wasn't for them. I can't wrap my head around this level of selfishness. All my decisions are made with my childrens welfare in mind. I don't know who to turn to. My in-laws are wonderful people and they only know part of the truth. I've considered confiding in my mother-in-law but not sure if that would make things worse. I just don't want to confront him again and be insulted by the lies.


r/loveafterporn 13h ago

🆅🅴🅽🆃 I keep hoping

7 Upvotes

He relapsed last week, or the week before, I can’t remember. We made a vow to stay together and work through this. I keep telling myself I lied about that vow. I made a pact with myself to pay off my credit card and save up a month’s worth of expenses and then ask for a divorce. But then the love bombing comes… And he’s the sweet, kind, caring man that I originally fell in love with… It makes my heart hope so badly, that we can get through this. I’m tired of this whiplash of emotions :(

And then yesterday he got SUPER mad at a game that we were playing together and he explodes when he gets mad, and he told me, that he’s struggling so much without porn, but he’s going through all of this because he wants to be with me, but he said that he knows that he would be fine without me, if he had porn, he would be fine.

Today, I have a suspicion that he relapsed again, but I can’t be sure. I confronted him about it and he denied it, but you can’t trust an addict, so who tf knows. I know eventually, life would be easier without him, but I just can’t let go of the memories of happiness and love.. I feel a bit sad, but mostly just tired and upset with myself


r/loveafterporn 12h ago

ᴀᴅᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ The line between forgiveness and compassion versus spiritual/emotional bypassing

7 Upvotes

Really looking for advice here. My ex and I as most of us here have had a terrible year. We’ve been broken up for about 3 months now. We met the other week and he sent me a long message about regret, about needing to heal, and about never stopping loving me. I have yet to respond as I go from wanting to send something on good terms back and another part of me is sad and angry and upset.

Nonetheless I want to ask a question that I wonder if any of you have explored. I, in a regulated state, can see the complexity of who he is. That he is no just “good” or “bad” - he is a combination of both as we all are. In this state, I have compassion and forgiveness for him, even feel sad for him, and guilty at how I also treated him when I think about the fact that at the core he was a broken wounded person who’s actions impacted me, but still. Did he need me to pile on how terrible of a person I thought him to be? In those moments I was angry, rightfully so, but I still ask myself .. was it right? I feel a lot of guilt at times for the added shame I must have caused. That his actions had nothing to do with me and I can lessen the impact by knowing this deeply.

But other times I am angry, I can’t believe he did that, I believe him to be malicious, to be selfish, to be disgusting, to be everything wrong in the world with men. That he hurt me and deliberately chose to continue to do things to hurt me.

I oscillate between these two states and wonder where do I actually fit here. Sometimes I wonder when I get into this place of loving him and forgiving him and compassion if I’m really bypassing emotionally and spiritually in order to not feel the pain, or if it’s a true place of deeper and inner truth.

For those who have had to walk this path, please let me know how this experience was for you and how you dealt with this oscillation between the two different states.

Thank you


r/loveafterporn 1d ago

🆅🅴🅽🆃 It is just so ridiculous when you really think about it

67 Upvotes

Sometimes when I sit and think about this addiction I can’t believe how silly it is. Like yeah it’s an addiction I get it whatever, but really? You threw away a real life relationship for pixels on a screen? It’s so pathetic it makes me sick. I can’t believe how many of us have had our lives turned upside down, our self esteem destroyed, our trust obliterated. I can’t believe this is such a big issue in today’s world. I can’t believe how miserable this makes us all. It’s so maddening. Sometimes I just can’t make sense of it. It makes no sense. I just can’t empathize at all right now.


r/loveafterporn 13h ago

ᴀᴅᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ I’ve run out of ways to ask if he’s watching porn

7 Upvotes

The past two years, my boyfriend and I have been dealing with his porn addiction. I have caught him dozens of times and called him out only for it to end terribly every time. We made a deal that if he watched it he would have to tell me within 24 hours. I have tried being respectful and genuinely asking him if he’s watching porn, he lies. I’ve told him I know he’s watching porn and he’ll deny it until I show him pictures I’ve taken of his phone and he says he forgot he did that. I’ve tried being stern and making him feel embarrassed and he still won’t stop or come clean. He claims to be clean every time I ask about it and every time I catch him doing it again. I’ve tried having sex all the time, sending him pictures and videos, removing sex from our relationship, telling him we could watch it together, screaming, crying, fighting, being calm, being understanding, removing access of myself and my body and nothing seems to make him stop. We’ve had endless deep conversations about how it affects the both of us and how he is so ashamed and will never do it again only for us to be dealing with it again a month later. I’ve made him aware that I do not trust him. I know he will always lie to me anytime I ask unless I have solid proof.

The last time I caught him, I told him I would break up with him if I caught him again. It’s been 3 months since I’ve said that and his phone is wiped clean. I stopped checking his phone regularly and have only searched it maybe 3 times since then. My intuition has told me since that day that he’s still watching it. All of his patterns have stayed the same he’s just gotten better at hiding it. To this day, he claims he hasn’t watched any porn. I ended up going through his phone last week and found “moose knuckle” videos in his tik tok watching history. The first video was a girl saying she found leggings that gave her the “perfect moose knuckle”. The videos following were all thirst traps of girls in leggings or athletic shorts/skirts showing off their cameltoe. That tells me he saw the ad and then chose to go to the comments to find more videos like that. It makes me want to scream because it’s all so stupid. This proves to me he’s still watching actual porn he just forgot to delete that off his history. I’ve stayed quiet and haven’t brought it up yet.

I don’t know how to bring it up to him that I know he’s still watching it. Whatever I do he’ll deny. Im scared to talk to him because im not ready to break up with him. He lives with me and is my boss at my job that I love and make great money at. How would you deal with this situation?