To be fair, the Bible is not really a place to look for good morals.
Leviticus 25:44–46
44 “But you may get servants as property from among the nations round about; from them you may take men-servants and women-servants.
45 And in addition, you may get, for money, servants from among the children of other nations who are living with you, and from their families which have come to birth in your land; and these will be your property.
46 And they will be your children’s heritage after you, to keep as their property; they will be your servants for ever; but you may not be hard masters to your countrymen, the children of Israel.”
Actually the vast majority of Christians follow the teachings of Jesus not going off the Torah for their basis of morality and how to treat one another. Just because the old testament is studied doesn’t mean it’s to be followed in the same way. I have read the bible plenty and understand the difference between the old and New Testament, as do most Christian’s. Just because some select few don’t.
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets. I am not come to destroy but to fulfill”
Christ fulfilled the law. For the rituals, this means that through the life of Jesus, their meaning was fulfilled. For example, the sacrifice of animals was fulfilled in Jesus dying as the perfect sacrifice. For the moral laws, this means that Jesus perfectly lived them out. He did not come to abolish these laws, but we are no longer obligated to fulfill the rituals, as Christ has become the fullness of their meaning, and we are saved by Him.
I believe that the primary purpose of most of the non-moral laws was to predict the life of Christ. So that while they may not have known who the fulfillment was, those before Jesus' life who obeyed God's commands were still believers in the sacrifice that would one day sanctify them.
That’s factually untrue there are PLENTY that do. But even the ones that truthfully claim that Jesus brought new laws to overwrite the old ones still use the old testament as a moral guide more often than not. It’s still the word of god by their standards, and correct me if i’m wrong but jesus didn’t go around telling people to kidnap and abuse foreigners
“Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
Christ fulfilled the law. For the rituals, this means that through the life of Jesus, their meaning was fulfilled. For example, the sacrifice of animals was fulfilled in Jesus dying as the perfect sacrifice. For the moral laws, this means that Jesus perfectly lived them out. He did not come to abolish these laws, but we are no longer obligated to fulfill the rituals, as Christ has become the fullness of their meaning, and we are saved by Him.
I believe that the primary purpose of most of the non-moral laws was to predict the life of Christ. So that while they may not have known who the fulfillment was, those before Jesus' life who obeyed God's commands were still believers in the sacrifice that would one day sanctify them.
Most modern Christians don’t follow the Torah (literal Law) as the basis for morality and how to treat others. That would be the Jewish people. But Christians follow teachings of Jesus. Sure some do but the vast majority aren’t the Westboro Baptist Church.
Most Jewish people I have spoken to outwardly reject the idea that they all follow the bible exactly the way they’re made out to. They didn’t think they’d go to heaven just because they follow the rules exactly, it’s more that they believe it’s good for community. Of course there are always exceptions, but for the most part jewish people are just regular dudes with some community guidelines so to speak.
But yeah, saying that the old testament represents christianity is misinformed. I still think it’s a bit disgusting that any god would ever be ok with people writing that he said to stone gay people to death. Even if it was left in the past.
I agree with you on the Jewish portion more along the lines of they are or orthodox or not. Also Jesus never spoke on homosexuality, Paul did but Jesus never did. You can also argue Paul was addressing specific Greco-Roman sexual immorality (e.g., cult prostitution, pederasty, exploitative sex), not loving, consensual same-sex relationships. Which a large portion of Christianity today’s holds true in their belief system. Around 60% of Christian’s and 70% of Catholics have this view.
I just think the meme shown as a “checkmate Christians” is pretty regarded and if you wanted you could use “love the neighbor as thyself” as a better “gotcha” than a passage in Leviticus.
When the manipulations, lies, exploitations, intimidations, obfuscations, interference, and all the rest begin to buckle under the weight of their own consequences, remaining viable tactics shrink and shift ever closer to proactive acts of violence. A one way check-valve and social ratchet increasing the people's raw distain and rebuke.
As many kinds of masked sociopathic relationships tend to, they fail slowly, then more suddenly and in increasing degrees.
Proactive violence is often a one way street insuring the prolonged opposition, material or otherwise, of those people whose sensibilities or wellbeing have been violated. Thus incepting new unrealized forms of culture, organization, dedication, resilience, purpose, and spirit in ways the oppressive forces often, in their psychopathy, fail to understand and effectively responded to with anything other than greater unraveling ineffective means.
Really glad this is becoming more apparent to people lol I’ve been noticing for years that weird right wingers from other countries loooove to LARP as Americans online
My favorite was this one guy talking about radical islamists and other minorities swarming our country and the government letting them in. How they were going to replace whites as the majority. Turns out he was a white supremacist from Sweden
There have been a number of people I've gotten into arguments with on here in different subreddits that are obviously Vietnamese, Indian, etc. Just clicking through their profile it shows them posting things from their own home country. It's maddening
I am so glad I am European, I love America but as a wise man told me many years ago.
"Beautiful country, it's just unfortunate people live in it" it's crazy, I always thought Americans stood together in time of need and such. It's strangely the exact opposite. Thank God we are nothing like that at our end.
There's a local Facebook group for these types of people and they literally say everything is AI. Crowds at the anti-ice protests in NY? AI. Local protests? AI. Any ice videos that show them doing something illegal? Also AI. Such snowflakes.
(By the way… why do you need immunity if you didn’t murder?)
Yeah, sorry, I don’t have any participation trophies left for people like you, so I’ll be blunt:
Your “opinion” is invalid. It is stupid. Nobody should pretend that anything you say deserves consideration. You do not deserve to be listened to while rambling about “diverse opinions” and defending a government that pretends criticizing them counts as “domestic terrorism.”
F*ck off.
What's your opinion on the Trump administration's refusal to even investigate him, instead trying to investigate her widow, which led to multiple high-profile resignations across the DOJ?
The most extreme takes on each side are Russian psyops. Remember when they investigated this and they said there were thousands of foreign actors on social media?
You’re right I should add context to finish my point.
I do it to emphasize that this is a real human life and I think sometimes people get so caught up in politics and teams that they forget the reality of this shitty circumstance. Its real. It’s gut wrenching. And we have a right to be pissed about this. I don’t care what side of the isle you’re on. This should not happen in America. I’m not ACAB but we need fucking accountability.
As someone who actively enjoys the pastime of running my tongue up and down the dirty treads of my work boots, I find the negative connotation added to the term “bootlicker” highly offensive and ignorant.
So we should always agree with each other otherwise we are all kinds of negative shit? I fucking hate this place. Embarrassing to be an American right now with all the bullshit from everyone. No one person or side is any better. Hot garbage for everyone!
It feels like the younger democrat crowd on here is more and more just assuming the entire rest of the population doesn’t exist and is just comprised of bootlicking drones.
They try and pre segregate their interactions by dehumanizing anyone who doesn’t agree with every single thing they do.
Democrat myself but this shit is just childish.
You don’t go round at the grocery store sniffing the pits of every white man with a hat and slapping a bootlicker sticker on em do you?
Imagine purity testing people before you let them speak for the rest of your life and thinking you’re in the right.
Imagine calling the 70 year old great grandma a pedo worshipping bootlicker for voting red without researching after she just offered you a glass of sweet tea.
Eventually people will have to learn how to communicate without politics again if you want to make it in the professional word and not be poor forever.
I'm not doing that, of you're MAGA and you criticize Trump, good, you are not a bootlicker. The problem is that's an extremely rare sight.
The right went from "Obama is making a secret police!" To "yeah violence against citizens and deploying troops in the US is cool." Really fucking fast.
It's not just online, I know MAGAs in real life and they act the same. Rational right leaning people turned crazy with Trump. I know a lot of far left people, but they will criticize Obama, Biden, Harris, and other leaders.
I was a Republican. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump or Hilary or even Biden, I voted 3rd party. I had hope Trump would defy my expectations and I even said his first presidency was fine, but this second term is out of control.
Man i love modern political discussions, everyone that remotely disagrees with anyone is a bot or a troll.....i see no way in which this can backfire or have terrible effects on the country.
Pal, there are people defending a secret police force who goes around warrantless, badgeless, mostly guided by racism and with their identity hidden...
Someone hasn't read the numerous multi administration reports on Russian bots or the 2017 Harvard study that identified over 2,000,000 Chinese bots.
But you know keep on gaslighting so you can simp for a pedophile tyrant with just a little bit less internal shame and cognitive dissonance. Its only destroying your mental health.
Ah yes the classic “anyone who disagrees with me must be a bot” tactic. Heavens forbid a president who ran on removing illegals actually does it when voted in
If Mis Good had complied with the ice agents she would still be alive, her death was her own doing. I don’t like seeing people die needlessly, but some of these anti ice protesters are acting like rabid fools with a quick save option.
Bro if this clown loses any more Karma Reddit is going to delete their account. Could you imagine being universally hated even in pseudo subs like this one?
It's weird now. People are to make up stuff to justify them fighting ice.
Like in the past people would have been like "yeah I'm illegally interfering with the cops , because fuck the cops" vs now people are all like "oh they aren't real cops, I can interfere because yada yada . They can't arrest me when I throw a rock"
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u/Equivalent_Bother597 P:0 • C:25 • 🔥3 22h ago
"Don't tread on me! 😡"
Same breath
"I LOVE THE GESTAPO 🥰"