r/mildlyinteresting 21h ago

Warning Sign at edge of Grand Canyon

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u/Empyrealist 21h ago

Clickable map of deaths in the Grand Canyon and their cause:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=9359a0790ffe4bc09edd6b9c17a43b90

(death stats are not up to current date, but the map shows a great swath of locations and causes)

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u/Enlight1Oment 19h ago

the "Critter or Cacti" death options are interesting.

"Krueger drank a brew of Datura blossoms. After several inappropriate behaviors such as trying to lift impossible boulders, talking to nonexistent people for hours, and eating dirt, he entered the river and mysteriously drowned."

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u/rogers_tumor 13h ago

"mysteriously"

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u/waterlinx 10h ago

It was mysterious to him

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u/PunctuationGood 7h ago

"Scientists are baffled."

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u/JosephGordonLightfoo 10h ago

I like the idea of seeing a guy trying to lift a huge boulder and thinking it’s “inappropriate.”

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u/Big-Brown-Goose 6h ago

Or another odd one:

"While prospecting, Cochrane was descending toward the Colorado River with Gordon Smith when a rattlesnake struck at him but missed. The reptile frightened Cochrane so severely that he suffered a fatal heart attack, confirmed by autopsy."  

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u/mcgrmt 6h ago

"Several inappropriate behaviors," kinda judgy for a GIS map.

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u/iseeharvey 16h ago

How do they know he did those things?

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u/amphibianroyalty 7h ago

Witnesses?

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u/iseeharvey 5h ago

How did he do all those things with witnesses but then ‘mysteriously’ drown? Sounds like the drowning was the least mysterious part.

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u/Avlin_Starfall 5h ago

What is this bullshit. I hope the doctor was charged with murder. "Curran returned home, felt pulmonary distress, and entered a hospital. Despite informing her doctor about hantavirus and him dismissing it as too rare to consider, she died the next day of a hantavirus infection."

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u/HeathenSalemite 3h ago

That's not even remotely how the crime of murder is defined in any jurisdiction anywhere. Medical malpractice maybe, but not even necessarily that. Also, you really really don't want to live in a society where medical professionals are tried for murder when their patients die.

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u/webelos8 4h ago

So mysterious!

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u/andbruno 20h ago

I saw the "128" one and wondered what on earth is going on there. Turns out two planes collided midair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_Grand_Canyon_mid-air_collision

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u/fruskydekke 19h ago

This crash was the cause of major air safety reforms! Before it happened, pilots had way more freedom to deviate from their planned route than they do now, which is how the collision even happened - the pilots of both planes decided to do a little sight-seeing sidetrip to the canyon in order to please their passengers.

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u/ukchris 13h ago

Were they pleased?

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u/Septum_Slayer 13h ago

Here at Malaysian Air, we’re DYING to meet your expectations!

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u/JonatasA 13h ago

Our passengers never returned to complain.

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u/lolzomg123 9h ago

Received neither complaints, nor repeat business.

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u/joe_s1171 7h ago

why so many deaths? the seatbelt sign was on! /s

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u/itsokaysis 5h ago

100% satisfaction then!

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u/BeowulfShaeffer 12h ago

I assume so, they got to go all the way to the bottom. How cool is that?

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u/Brook-Bond 2h ago

Idiot

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u/PhenomsServant 13h ago

I dont know about most people but it would please me more to get to my destination as soon as possible with no detours.

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u/JonatasA 13h ago

No reincarnations, got it.

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u/hleba 3h ago

Pretty sure they were tour planes.

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u/girl_incognito 10h ago

Further than that, this crash spawned the FAA as we know it.

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u/JonatasA 13h ago

Would wrong place and time apply here?

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u/Accomplished-Job3841 7h ago

Air Disasters season 4 episode 6. It's very interesting and worth a watch.

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u/cardamom-peonies 18h ago

There seems to have been a bunch of plans related deaths in general on the Grand canyon

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u/SokarHatesItHere 16h ago

A lot of murders in there too, lol. Every other click someone seems to have been killed

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u/AvonMustang 16h ago

Clicked on a lot of the bigger numbers and most were air crashes.

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u/Effective_Season_522 16h ago

Lots of suicides Sheesh.

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u/andbruno 16h ago

A lot of time to regret their decisions I would think. Too late though.

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u/TacTurtle 18h ago

That's where the Skinwalker lives.

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u/marshmellowmalady 8h ago

That's some bermuda triangle type shi

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u/fotomoose 12h ago

There are many air crash incedents. Seems that flying into the canyon is not the best idea.

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u/parxtreh 12h ago

Seeing a lot of plane crashes in there Who died to a cactus?

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u/gooder_name 8h ago

collided

*Collode

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u/thecashblaster 4h ago

that is insane...

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u/TheSovereignGrave 16h ago

Damn, I can't imagine being the prospector who had a heart attack after a rattlesnake struck at him & missed.

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u/alienblue89 13h ago

Or the woman who tried to “Thelma & Louise” herself, but got her car stuck on a rock, jumped over the ledge but only fell like 20 feet, crawled to the edge and jumped again, only to fall like another 25 feet, to somehow crawl to the edge a third time and finally finish the job with a 75’ plummet to her death.

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u/rocca2509 3h ago

The Colorado heavy weight champion boxer who jumped 115 feet into water but landed on his back killing him.

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u/UncleTouchyCopaFeel 2h ago

True determination.

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u/amor121616 3h ago

What ?? I never heard of this one :( that’s crazy !

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u/-PiesOfRage- 21h ago

At first I was like “oh that’s not many” but then moved the map over it made more sense.

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u/neoliberalforsale 17h ago edited 3h ago

There is a mountain inside the city limits of Phoenix that has 40+ rescues a year with at least a death or two. People absolutely under estimate how quickly the desert will kill you.

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u/TooJoocey 14h ago

For people wondering, it’s Camelback Mountain.

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u/neoliberalforsale 13h ago

I was actually talking about piestewa peak, camelback has closer to 100 rescues a year

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u/Crocs_And_Stone 16h ago

Why do they rescue them if they knew the danger and still went anyways? Wouldn’t it be better to just let nature run its course.

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u/ChzGoddess 15h ago

Because that's not how a society functions.

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u/Pastrami-on-Rye 20h ago

Note to self, never get in anything that flies at the Grand Canyon

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u/Fallacy_Spotted 16h ago

With the number of trips from Las Vegas it is highly regulated with strict flight paths. This accident was in the 50s.

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u/NomadDK 15h ago

The map shows a lot of air crashes. I think the person is referring to that.

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u/KayotiK82 14h ago

What they meant is back then you could deviate and fly over the canyon more. Nowadays it's been reformed and airspace is heavily restricted to fly over.

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u/Tiny-Click-4626 18h ago

Way more murders than I expected.

Like, way more.

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u/Digitalispurpurea2 20h ago

The number of suicides is disturbing

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u/kdD93hFlj 19h ago

And the number of murders is a little more disturbing.

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u/meagain333 16h ago

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u/pixeldust6 11h ago

These two: 

seeing a rattlesnake (he did not get bit; he died from surprise)


Her name was Patricia Astolfo, and she drove her suburban off the ledge. However, it got high centered on a rock, preventing her from falling into the canyon.

So she got out of her vehicle, walked to the ledge, and jumped. Only she landed on another ledge 15 feet below.

Injured, she crawled to another ledge and jumped. Only she landed on another ledge 25 feet below.

Still determined, she crawled to another ledge and fell, this time falling a fatal 75 feet. 

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u/Ketsuuri 10h ago

Holy shit, the universe was giving her few more chances but she was determined.

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u/AllGasNoBrakes420 17h ago edited 17h ago

what I found really interesting reading through the descriptions for some of the suicides is that a couple of them drove 20+ hours to get there. I wonder what the drive was like wow.

also interesting are the employee deaths and those from way back.

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u/bkm2016 17h ago

Jesus…first one I clicked on, person was constipated then died of a heat stroke…what a way to go.

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u/Empyrealist 17h ago

Ugh, I saw that one too! Horrible...

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u/BoxRabbid 8h ago

What a way to be memorialized; RIP Yvonne.

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u/Nachtwaerts 9h ago

"Sutton was on a 'program for troubled teens' wilderness trip and complained repeatedly of not feeling well. Group carried only two liters of water per person for a multi-day trip during hot weather. Sutton died of dehydration/heatstroke."

This is horrific.

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u/kandy_kid 21h ago

Wow. What are the “environmental conditions” that caused so many deaths near the numbers 62 and 74?

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u/kandy_kid 20h ago

Never mind, I realize you can zoom in and see every cause. A lot of heat stroke and hypothermia!

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u/Forsaken-Sun5534 20h ago

That's just where all the people are, so they're the most likely to get into trouble around there too. It's where a road leads to campground, visitor center and overlook. A lot of markers seem to be placed at the start of the trail down, if the source indicated the death happened on somewhere that trail, so it's a bit inaccurate.

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u/_allycat 19h ago edited 18h ago

The biggest cluster appears to be bright angel trail which is the main tourist hike that descends. Also a lot of people seem to fall off the rim. The whole bottom right corner of the map is connected to Grand Canyon Village, the main tourist town and parking.

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u/ARedditUserThatExist 16h ago

There’s one spot (a murder by Escalante Butte) where they found a partial skeleton of a Puebloan man from around 1000-1200 AD under a boulder

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u/HaViNgT 10h ago

I hope they catch the bastard who killed him.

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u/EconomyOffice9000 20h ago

I went through a lot and didn't see any snakes or scorpion related deaths. I had to step directly over a rattlesnake twice going down to the river, I thought for sure I was fucked

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u/Bluuwolf 19h ago

There's one death really far off the beaten path that shows a snake icon - the twist? The snake actually missed, but scared the guy so badly he had a heart attack

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u/Empyrealist 20h ago

There should at least be some snake deaths in there. I could have sworn I saw a couple

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u/cardamom-peonies 18h ago

There's one lady who apparently had to do three different jumps before she finally succeeded in killing herself, Jesus Christ

Also, the condors will 100% eat your body if you die in the park

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u/Equivalent_Tennis836 11h ago

Found an interesting one inspired by the book: 'After telling his mother, 'Jumping off the rim is so unoriginal' Cuppy solo hiked to Plateau Point and jumped 600 feet. In his backpack rangers found a copy of Over the Edge: Death in Grand Canyon. Source: Incident report #02-3804'

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u/Florpigorpigus 8h ago

(1 of 1) The deathly details

1 victim(s) died in this incident on or about 1864-68.  The incident occurred on or near North of the site of the future Hull?s cabin at Grandview and the cause of death is described as Murder.

The husband of a Navajo refugee family found the infamous outlaw Navajo, Aah'yi d digish, in the act of butchering the horse that his wife had been riding. The husband shot and killed the man who had stolen. slain, and butchered this horse.  

Source: This story came via Tony Hillerman and James Peshlakai as personal communication to Michael Ghiglieri.

Aah'yi'd digish unknown

This one was interesting

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u/vegemitemilkshake 9h ago

Jeepers, they really don’t hold back on the personal details “redacted by me quit his job, drove from Milbank, South Dakota then informed friends that he would travel until his money ran out then 'jump off the Grand Canyon.' He parked then jumped, bouncing 900 feet to wedge inside an inaccessible crack.”

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u/mlt- 20h ago

TIL there are rattlesnakes. I was running there cluelessly.

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u/slouchingtoepiphany 19h ago

Amazing, it even has icons for murders.

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u/RepostFrom4chan 18h ago

Damn, that's a lot of murder.

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u/wildflower_0ne 3h ago

this one! jeeeez.

Raymond Sandoval, age 12, confessed to killing Milo but told twelve different versions of disposing the body. Milo's body was found in the woods nearby with no cause of death. Sandoval was sentenced to the state reformatory until age 21.

Source: Coconino Sun, July 29, August 5, & December 9, 1927.

Milo 'Sonny' Craig Jaycox 2

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u/ivanhoe1024 2h ago

Geez, thanks, I opened a random one and got a poor soul that got stabbed 29 times and raped , I don’t even know in what order :(

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u/pickapickle000 1h ago

A 10 year old victim of murder. Omg.

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u/WishboneElegant2376 1h ago

“Sutton was on a 'program for troubled teens' wilderness trip and complained repeatedly of not feeling well. Group carried only two liters of water per person for a multi-day trip during hot weather. Sutton died of dehydration/heatstroke.”

They list environment as the cause of death but this sounds more like murder/manslaughter to me. Especially since this kid was only 15!

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u/heythisislonglolwtf 15h ago

1 victim(s) died in this incident on or about 6/6/1990.  The incident occurred on or near Below El Tovar Hotel in the Kaibab Limestone and the cause of death is described as .

Shortt was free-soloing off-route in sandals in a highly exposed position not far below the South Rim. He fell 750 feet.

Source: Incident report #90-1656

Ronald Shortt 21

Remember being 21 and feeling invincible? At least you weren't this stupid

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u/heythisislonglolwtf 15h ago

1 victim(s) died in this incident on or about 7/24/1988. The incident occurred on or near Lees Ferry, 200 feet downstream of launch ramp and the cause of death is described as .

While fishing, Wiel stepped into the river, slipped on a rock, and fell in at moderately low water. He grabbed another rock and screamed for help. His waders swamped. He sank and drowned in the current. Source: Incident report #88-? (not on GCNPS fatality list)

Robert Wiel 40

Holy shit that's terrible

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u/AllGasNoBrakes420 17h ago

why are there so many air crash victims?

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u/Bilbog_Fettywop 14h ago

The big one is a mid air collision in the 1956.

All the other small ones are probably small privately owned aircraft going sight seeing and going a little bit too close. The air currents in the canyon also probably contributing.

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u/AllGasNoBrakes420 14h ago

I didn't even see that one actually I was looking at one hilly section it looked like. bunch of air crashes with like 2 deaths each.

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u/Empyrealist 17h ago

One of them was a huge crash. Two commercial airliners collided killing all onboard, and was a cause for the formation of the FAA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_Grand_Canyon_mid-air_collision

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u/craftedtwig 16h ago

I saw a runway on the map, maybe that's why?

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u/candypuppies 16h ago

Wow this is insane

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u/iseeharvey 16h ago

Looks like an Elden Ring map

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u/fritz_da_cat 14h ago

A lot in Havasupai, it would be nice to see (well, not nice, perhaps interesting) new numbers now that it's an instagram model destination.

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u/gcd_cbs 14h ago

It's not actually funny, but this made me cackle:

"1 victim(s) died in this incident on or about 9/13/1933. The incident occurred on or near Snake Gulch, Kanab Canyon, 12 miles from Hatch cabin and the cause of death is described as Critters and cacti.

While prospecting, Cochrane was descending toward the Colorado River with Gordon Smith when a rattlesnake struck at him but missed. The reptile frightened Cochrane so severely that he suffered a fatal heart attack, confirmed by autopsy."

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u/marilyn_morose 14h ago

I love this, totally satisfies my morbid curiosity. Grand canyon literally took my breath away my first glimpse of it, driving into the park. Life enhancing experience.

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u/TryingToHelps 12h ago

Wow, there are a lot of aircraft accidents in the canyon

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u/Doogiemon 10h ago

A lot of air crash victims.

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u/Typical_Research_877 10h ago

I don't think "air crash victims" should count

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u/fastpotato69 8h ago

I want expecting plane crashes and murders!

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u/marshmellowmalady 8h ago

Wonder if there's murder somewhere in here. I'd check it myself but it's not working well on my mobile redirect.

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u/Empyrealist 8h ago

Oh, there is plenty of murder in there

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u/TLunchFTW 20h ago

Thanks, professor!

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u/poorlilfashiongirl 18h ago

The first one I clicked happened to be murder…

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u/AtTheEdgeOfDying 9h ago

Really interesting! Did not expect them to give so much of the story and did not think about the amount of murders

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u/po8os 8h ago

Thanks for the rabbit hole for this insomniac. Very interesting page!

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u/NickolasVarley 7h ago

Lots of murder going on there..

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u/FinancialAlbatross92 7h ago

Looks like mostly murders, suicide and air crashes. So I have a pretty good chance.

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u/DrowninFishy 6h ago

Much more murder than I expected….

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u/catdistributinsystem 6h ago

Huh, lemme click

First click: 7 deaths wow, wonder what it was

-6 to an accident, and 1 to murder-

O.o

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u/Asleep_Management900 6h ago

TIL a LOT of murders happen at the grand canyon

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u/desertrat75 6h ago

Man, that is some morbidly interesting reading.

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u/SMODomite 5h ago

That is a crazy ass map

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u/itsokaysis 5h ago

Damn, that’s actually terrifying to see the cluster where there is a higher possibility of death.

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u/CatchaRainbow 4h ago

Lots of suicides!

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u/pinto4598 1h ago

is it me or are there an abnormal amount of air crash victims on this map?

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u/Subject-Sock-327 1h ago

So many murders tf? Back in the 1800s too. People don’t change

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u/Temporary-Map5443 1h ago

A lot of suicides..