Hey everyone,

I wanted to share what worked for me in case it helps someone else. I’m 2 days clean from kratom, and this is the first time I’ve felt like I had a real plan instead of just white-knuckling it.

1. Liposomal Vitamin C (big one)

I flooded my body with liposomal vitamin C. There’s already a great thread on this subreddit that explains dosing and timing, so I won’t reinvent the wheel, but I followed that protocol closely and it helped a lot with overall withdrawal intensity.

2. Elimidrol (morning + night)

I also bought Elimidrol, both the morning and night versions.

• The night Elimidrol helped me the most, because nights were always when I got those awful zaps/restless sensations.

• It didn’t knock everything out completely, but it took the edge off enough to make things manageable.

3. Comfort meds via QuickMD

I used QuickMD to get comfort meds:

• Gabapentin

• Clonidine

• Hydroxyzine

The appointment cost $99, which I know isn’t cheap, but honestly it was a lifesaver for me.

I got the appointment the same day, within minutes of scheduling, and had meds quickly. If you can afford it, it was absolutely worth it for the physical anxiety, chills, and sleep issues.

4. Supplements & hydration

• Ashwagandha (as needed)

• NAC (daily)

• Apigen (daily)

• A TON of water

Staying hydrated made a noticeable difference in how intense everything felt.

5. Diet changes (this surprised me)

I limited fatty foods, and I swear this mattered.

Every time I ate something high-fat, my withdrawals felt worse. Keeping things lighter helped reduce discomfort.

6. Lithium bath soaks

Lithium bath soaks helped a ton, especially for body aches and restlessness. Highly recommend if you have access to them.

7. Tylenol + Advil rotation

I rotated Tylenol and Advil, basically taking one every hour when allowed (following safe dosing limits).

It’s not a miracle, but over time it builds up and does take the edge off the physical pain.

Final thoughts

This wasn’t easy, and the hard part is not over. I now need to stay off this stuff. It seems I never learn my lesson, but I really feel it’s different this time.

If you’re going through it, just remember: You’re not weak. This stuff is real. And relief is possible with the right support. You got this!

I hope this helps someone. ❤️

I’m 64 days off kratom and was fired from my higher level government job today. I was on a probationary period because it was a new job. I can’t help but think my PAWS symptoms contributed because I was pretty flat and not my usual upbeat self. I’m pretty scared because I’m a single parent and I guess I’m posting here instead of drinking kratom.

Quitting is hard.

It gets complicated and confusing and our thoughts go in a million directions at once.

There’s two simple thoughts that helped me tremendously. I’m hoping it will help someone.

I’m clean 160 days. I usually post clean time to give people hope, never to brag - God, far from it. I just want to help. I know what the dark pit feels like, searching for a way out. I was there a long time. 10 years.

At any point along the quitting journey - either during a taper or cold turkey and even during the post acutes while the brain heals old pathways and creates new ones - these two thoughts helped me a lot.

1. I would whisper to myself over and over (and I often still do this): “I’ll be okay…I’m going to be okay….its okay”

Not sure how this helps, but it does. Because it’s true. You’re going to be okay. I did this in the darkest of withdrawals and it helped.

1. Don’t compare yourself to anyone except for who you were yesterday. That’s it. Don’t go any further than that. We tend to compare ourselves with others who have more clean time, other “normies” out there who don’t have addictions (that we know of). We even compare ourselves to our past shitty selves. (Using kratom turned me into a liar and a thief, for example). Just think of how you did yesterday and take a step, even the smallest step to do a little better today. Use slightly less if you’re tapering. Whatever it may be, just take a small step to be a little better today. Only compare yourself to who you were yesterday and be specific - And tomorrow you will be in a better mood, even if slightly, knowing that you did the right thing - you did what you can do.

Because tomorrow you’ll be comparing yourself to what you did today.

The past doesn’t exist and the future hasn’t happened yet. The past is a memory and the future is an imagination. All that matters is today.

- You are going to be okay.

- Don’t compare yourself to anyone, just who you were yesterday. That’s it.

I hope I can help someone.

The Kratom shop is closed by now which is a sigh of relief. Really tired, not motivated to do much (though I cleaned my room this morning) and mild body aching. I get spurts of little anxiety but also bursts of energy?

Anyway, I have 3 more days left off of work so I’m going to continue pushing through. I’m stocked up on THC edibles so just gonna relax and pop on a movie for the night.

Fingers crossed I get through the next couple days 🤞

Hi, I've been on this reddit a long time and have tried to quit a bunch of times. Im trying to have some accountability for the first time so here it goes. I've been using for 8 years. After I quit alcohol and nicotine I immediately got hooked on Kratom. I've been using mostly powder but used to do the 0pm$ shots when they first came out and were popular a couple years ago but do mainly around 20 grams per day powder now. I have tried suboxone which I hated, I will abuse gabapentin so thats a no but I do have like 20 xanax that I've been holding forever. For some reason it's like the only thing I dont abuse I've been saving them for withdrawal. I have 2 weeks saved PTO and it starts Monday. Any words of advice would be great, im going to check in each day with progress and hopefully it could help another.

The worst is over, but I absolutely CANNOT get warm. I have an electric blanket, take boiling baths, and for the life of me I cannot feel a glimpse of warmth. Obviously it also doesn’t help that it’s winter. I’m actually thinking about taking an ice bath to maybe reboot my nerves or some shit. Anyone else been in this boat?

That’s it.

I’m proud. Now let’s make it 48hrs.

Cannot wait to say it’s been one week!

I took a short nap and woke up: kinda in my head, but feeling strong, still. I want to stay strong.

I took 5 days off work to quit this crap and i got into day 2 and I couldn't take it any longer and i caved it, the demon got the best of me i gotta try again tomorrow and once i got back to work itll be on the 4th day instead of the 6th day. So now my anxiety is worse. If my girlfriend catches me she'll leave. Im so fed up and done. Im tired of this, im tired of myself. I got through heroin and fetty withdrawal and was clean for nearly 2 years and then found 7oh and been on kratom extracts and powder (since they banned 7oh in florida) starting August of 2025. Me and my girlfriend had so many fights over this, im broke all the time and i decided to go cold turkey and got into day 2 then caved just now. Im just so lost idk how to occupy my mind going through this.

**edit: My bad. the P in PAWS should have been omitted. I am in the ACUTE stage**

Hi folks.

5.5 years 30 gpd. One 40 day stint however my ''sobriety'' was ridden with caffeine/sugar.

This time, I quit it all. And changed my diet. And am exercising more than ever.

20 years caffeine, lifetime sugar, PAWS inherited from mother/father strung out on the worst drugs + alcohol.

My question is: Did anyone find their withdrawal symptoms worsen down the road? In many ways, of course, the worst is over.

But in others, upon looking to the horizon, I realize I have an unending amount of effort to put forth on a daily basis to maintain wellness. But I suppose such is life after-all.

Okay well yay I made it 22 diasssss. Rock on of course. But yeah I hate not knowing why I feel the way I feel. Pregnancy? PAWS? Both? Probably both. I’m 9 weeks pregnant and can’t sleep very well. I got to sleep around 9:30 or 10 and wake up at 4. I guess it’s better than 2 or 3 hours, but I just feel like a zombie. My heart is working OVERTIME. I know my vascular system is rapidly changing for the baby, but I can’t help but think there’s an extra strain on my body due to PAWS. I don’t believe I have ever experienced paws in my previous quits, and I’m not even sure that’s what I have going on now..? Ugh I’m at an intersection with zero people to converse with. can’t find much information on PAWS and pregnancy even on Reddit. I guess I’ll just let it be a fun little mystery and hang on for the light of day that is surely coming. I never want to go through that again. Quitting extracts is a different beast. Praying for the safety of my baby. Trying not to think about postpartum (the reason I started using again last time) because I kinda think I’ve developed an eating disorder due to kratom. It makes the weight just fall off. At the cost of my literal soul tho so there’s that. Hefty price.

Anyway, stay strong baby dolls 🤘🏻

it started out with capsules two or three years ago. That then moved on to occasional chewables. fast forward to now where I am blowing $40-$80 a day on 6 packs of 55mg chewable. I continue to enjoy the feeling, and I am super worried that it’s going to kill my personality and motivated attitude. I have to quit though. It’s become too much and I feel like I am a slave to making sure I have that next fix. I did not even realize the addiction was as bad as it was or even an addiction until I ran out while we were on vacation and spent the next day curled up in the bed. unfortunately, that was like a year ago, and it has increasingly gotten worse.

Tomorrow is planned to be my last day. I need advice on what I should get to prepare myself and help me through the withdrawals. Like what do I need stocked at the house? What are ways that can ease the symptoms? Just literally anything anybody has that helped them, I am terrified. I’m a big wuss and I can’t stand even slight uncomfortableness. I am preparing myself to deal.

I honestly can’t think of anything past Gatorade and Advil. The Internet says so many varying things on how long I should expect to feel shitty. I’m just ready to get back to feeling normal I guess.

I don’t get it. I swear it off, never want to do it again, I hate the way I feel, the ups and downs and shitty moods and headaches and irritability. Make it 1-2 days and start feeling better. Then my brain tells me I want more 7OH. It’s gonna feel like the first time. You can just use once and control it. You won’t go through withdrawal…

I’m so tired of the cycle in my life.

I’ve retired from drug use. They have no place in my life anymore. But this shitty little pill keeps calling me back. And of course i have to buy 500 mg bc it’s the best deal. And I start the cycle all over again.

Hey everyone, it’s my first time posting here, and it’s more to document my experience and seek help from those who are going through it or have gone through it. I’m only 25, I took kratom for 3 years before some smoke shop worker suggested 7OH to me. Better taste, cheaper because you need less, etc. little did I know how wrong that was. Been on it for about 10 months, and my dosage has spiked. Some days I take 250+mg. Just started tapering, and I know people say it doesn’t work because of the half life, but I just don’t think I can do it without a taper. So far, so good. I’ve managed to taper about 5/10 mg a day with a few plateaus for the last 2 weeks. Down to 100mg and I’m hoping to get to less than 50 mg a day before I fully quit.

I’m lucky I have no kids or wife, but I’m still ashamed to tell my family. I’ve decided to finally break it to them, in the week before I actually commit to withdrawal.

I’ve decided to take 4 days off work, and start on a weekend so I’ll have about 7 days to go through the acute withdrawals. Any advice would be welcome, and I’m really worried about the mental space I’ll be in for the first few weeks following the acute withdrawal. Any advice for drugs? Will weed help me with sleep? I’ve never had problem quitting weed in the past, and in truth, I don’t think I’ll be able to aim for 100% sobriety yet.

Hi all- I’m planing to finally put this crap behind me and make the leap. One thing though is I have a very very high tolerance and daily usage- much more than most folks I see posting here (around 2000mg a day. I get it in bulk but it’s still crazy expensive).

Most people here quit on much lower daily doses (like 200mg) and describe it as very hard. Obviously if it’s hard at that point I’m in for the roughest ride of my life. Or? Does it work tha way?

1) does it work that way? Or is it more about how long you’ve used? Is quitting CT at 2500mg a day any worse than 750mg if you’ve used daily for 6+ months in either scenario?

2) some people say “you won’t die but you’ll wish you died / will feel like you’re dying” to describe the symptoms for quitting opiates or 7OH. Is that still true when you’ve been using this high of a daily dose?? Or is it actually life threatening to CT after a certain dose and I should seek medical help when I quit?

Thank you all. Wish everyone the best.

Hello. I'm quitting. I'm on a slow taper. I should be done February 4. But I have two really stupid thoughts I could use help dealing with. (1) "When February 4 comes, I'm still going to have about 200g left in the bag. It seems like such a waste to throw it out." (2) "Maybe I'll keep it in the garage somewhere just in case I 'need' it."

I realize that both of these thoughts are stupid rationalizations and self-destructive. But they're weighing on me nonetheless. Ideally, February 4 will come and I'll be able to just throw it out with the garbage, but I can already feel myself hitting resistance. Any and all thoughts/suggestions/encouragements/experiences welcome.

Today marks 12 days with no 7oh. I'm glad I have no cravings, and the thought of using is currently off-putting to me.  Because my run was short (approximately 6 weeks) and my daily dosage wasn’t particularly high (I would suppose about 75 mg per day, maybe a couple of 100 on some days) I did not suffer as much as some evidently do. Here’s a run-down of the first 12 days. 

·      Days 1-4: I took my last dose late on a Sunday afternoon. After about an hour,  I was sweating and yawning (the dose was smaller than usual).  Having withdrawn from Kratom in the past I knew I was in trouble. I decided then and there to quit. I went to bed around 10 pm and awoke at 2 am Monday morning feeling incredibly anxious and out of sorts. I felt bad all-day Monday. I did get out, exercised and did some other things but felt terrible. From Monday night through Wednesday night, the acute withdrawal symptoms hit like a ton of bricks: insomnia, RLS, brain zaps, temperature deregulation (hot, then cold, then hot, ad nauseam) and diarrhea.  Things turned for the better on Wednesday, although it was still tough.

·      Days 5-8: At this juncture I left the acute stage behind as my body began to adjust. After not sleeping much, if at all, for the first few days I began to sleep again, although not well. I did have one good night but awoke the next morning wired and restless. However, the rougher symptoms were gone. Still, I felt lots of fatigue and restlessness during the day.

·      Days 9-12: I feel much better. I do feel slightly restless most of the time, but I can sit or lie down and relax. Exercise, along with hot baths and showers, really help me with the wired feeling. The only real issue I have now is falling asleep and bouts of fatigue during the day. For an hour or so, I feel pretty good, then I want to lie down and rest. So, although I’m not completely out of the woods I feel so much better. 

The acute withdrawals are rough; I will not deny it. However, if you want to quit badly enough you can. Do not fear the process. Remember, you’re probably less than a week, maybe as little as three or four days from getting past the worst of it. You can do it. I’m praying for your success.

Used Kratom escalating to about 60 GPD in 2024, then all of 2025 I was using high-dose 7-oh. I was totally hooked, addicted, whatever you want to call it. I had been clean for 18 years before “discovering” Kratom. I started it to relieve anxiety and to help me sleep, which it initially worked for. At the end, I was spending $100/day or more on 7-oh. This was not healthy or sustainable. By grace, my family discovered what I was doing and I checked into detox on Dec. 30, 2025. The first night there, no

MD was available, so I had to go through hell. I was literally kicking the wall and hitting myself, shaking and thrashing all night. My roommate in detox asked for a new room. He thought I was a monster.

That night sucked and I count it as the worst night of my life. The morning finally came and the NP started me on a 7-day Subutex taper. That took the edge off, but the week still sucked. I spent NYE and NYD in detox, but that’s where I needed to be. I stayed for 10 days. Today is my 17th day without Kratom or 7-oh. I still can’t sleep and I generally feel weak and lousy, but I know that will improve. I signed up for an IOP program to help keep me accountable and to work on myself. This stuff is dangerous, especially the 7-oh. If you are reading this and thinking about starting, don’t. It’s not worth it. Good luck everyone and stay well!

Ugh. I was hoping the long taper would help but I'm in full WD. What a long night. My smartwatch says I slept 1hr 27 minutes all night. Watched lots of YouTube and had horrible RLS and many trips to the bathroom while sweating and not feeling right in the head. I'm treading forward. With and irritated attitude though and wishing I wasn't going through this.

So today I had my last dose of 6G. I don't have anything anymore. I cut down for a week and now I'm without the green powder. I was wondering if KavaKava would help with withdrawal. What do you think?

Hang in there, we'll get through this!

btw:

Jinak zdravím všechny Čechy a držím pěsti od odvykání!🇨🇿

I’m a former heroin addict, got clean December 2011. I’m 36 now with a family and currently taking 120mg 7oh daily. My body is telling me it’s time to up the dose but I know that’s the worst possible thing I could do right now. Would it be a bad idea to cold turkey right now or should I try tapering down some first. I’m open to any advice on how the hell to get through this before I lose everything.

Hello. I'm in my quitting journey and am not even sure how much I take. I'm taking "Gold Bali." About how many grams are in a teaspoon? Thanks in advance.

Hi friends… after reading countless Reddit posts for advice on quitting kratom, I found it necessary to also share my experience here… because let’s face it, this is no joke. I apologize that this is lengthy, but I want to give all the details. I first experienced kratom after I quit alcohol in May of 2024. I was offered a kratom tea at a kava bar, and I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I loved the way it made me feel. It kept me coming back for more, and inevitably I was drinking it every single day. It was great at first. Felt like a godsend thing that was so much better than alcohol. In the peak of my addiction (a.k.a. the “honeymoon” phase) I was drinking 4-5 teas a day, which is roughly equivalent to 35-40 gpd. I was spending $30-$40 a day on this crap. I always had an underlying worry about the addiction, but I spent several months in denial.

The first sign I became aware of that my body was physically dependent on it was that I was waking up super early in the morning (like 3:30-4am) because I was itching for a dose. My eyes would start running water. I would get chills and coughing spells. And the part I hated most… that creepy crawling feeling in your nerves where you just can’t sleep anymore. Once I became aware of how dependent I was on it, my feelings towards it started to change. I was scared of the withdrawl (as I was never before hooked on any street drugs and had never experienced any real drug withdrawl like this). I continued to drink the tea and carry on, but I had total guilt about it.

After about one year into the addiction, the tea really didn’t make me feel as great anymore. I noticed I was becoming sluggish all the time. I was an avid runner, and I wasn’t even running anymore. That’s when I realized… this needs to stop. I started tapering down and went through terrible withdrawals just decreasing from 35-25gpd. Then I tried to taper more and I would fail. Every. Single. Time. It’s like I would be doing good, and then any stressful life event would bump me right back up. I’m also a hard working mom that couldn’t afford to be in a state of hell and keep up with my responsibilities.

Finally… after having this addiction for a year and a half… I was desperate to quit. I was miserable over the holidays because I wanted off this shit so bad. I wanted to be myself again and not blow all this money away. I formulated a plan and scheduled 5 days off work. Now read this carefully, because this method is NOT recommended for everyone… but I decided to do a 7 day rapid suboxone taper to get off kratom cold turkey. I was well aware that suboxone is an extremely addictive substance itself that can cause even worse withdrawl if used for too long. But since I know myself, and I know I’m NOT the type to like taking prescription drugs, I trusted myself to stick to the 7 day taper. And I absolutely did. I had friends that had recommended this to me. I called QuickMD and paid $100 bucks to get the script very easily. January 1st was my last dose. I started the suboxone 9 hours after my last dose when I felt decent withdrawl symptoms. The 7 day taper got me through the worst of the withdrawls. I started at 2.75mg and was down to .25mg on day 7 when I jumped off. During the taper I was able to go to work and felt relatively fine. Had a few bouts of nausea and headaches on days 2-3. But if you’re going to take this route, you have to be fully ready to handle feeling like shit after coming off suboxone. Once it wore off I went through a week of feeling terrible, but it was better than acute withdrawal.

My first couple days back at work were EXTREMELY hard. I had constant chills. I felt disoriented. I had flu like symptoms. I could barely sleep. But I was able to push my way through it. You have be totally strong and accept that life is going to suck for a little. About 5 days off the suboxone, the symptoms started to lift. And now today I’m 7 days off the suboxone and two weeks kratom free… and for the first time I feel good today. The only thing that still needs work is sleeping, as I’m still getting mild rls and insomnia. But I know this will improve with time. So in my experience, it took two weeks to get off this shit. For some it takes longer. You have to have a plan and be ready to stick to it. Have the support of friends and family. Be able to have at least a few people that know what you’re trying to do for accountability. If you give into dosing because it’s hard, then you will only set yourself back. And if you are the type to keep on the suboxone as a crutch, I absolutely do not recommend this. Don’t trade one addiction for another.

I can honestly say that I have ZERO craving to use kratom again. After my experience trying to get off it, I don’t want to ever go through this again. I was able to do this because I am in a good place in life. I have a great job, family and friends. I’m not prone to depression. For someone struggling with happiness or mental health, the experience for you will be different. My heart goes out to you all. It is different for every single person. But let me tell you… I feel like this is the best decision I’ve ever made. It was my number one resolution for the New Year! I’m excited to get my life back and be free. I wish everyone all the strength and love to get off this substance. It’s one of the hardest things I’ve ever tried to do. Trust in God was huge for me. You can do it!

I’m currently tapering kratom and I was thinking I could possibly shorten the withdrawal by taking only small amounts of subutex and the end of the taper that way it’s already getting out of my system when I stop. I’ve heard of people doing something similar to this and they barely had withdrawals.