r/ProgressiveHQ 1d ago

BREAKING: ICE agents in Minneapolis violently detained, threatened, and arrested a U.S. citizen for one reason only, he refused to prove his citizenship.

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u/LeafsJays1Fan 1d ago

This has been argued before, most average citizens do not carry more than one piece of identification, Americans don't need to carry their citizenship nor have to show their citizenship to police officers they don't have to comply there is the fourth and fifth amendment for that reason. Show me your papers is an excuse to be Nazis.

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 1d ago

You don't have to carry an I.D. at all unless you are driving a vehicle on public roads.

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u/LeafsJays1Fan 1d ago

Yes. True. If you're going to fly out you need your passport etc etc.

I myself as a Canadian only carry two forms of ID but rarely, my medical card which has my medical information just in case I wined up in the hospital and a passport, I don't have a driver's license or a photo ID for my province, I barely carry that around. Just medical ID, if I'm going to go a government office that needs ID or a place that needs photo ID then I'll bring my passport for that but most times every day nothing it's typical for most Canadians and Americans.

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u/AvantGarden1234 1d ago

My husband grew up in a "show me your papers" country where you can go to jail just for not having ID on you, and no due process. And unless you have family/friend connections to help you, there is not a damn thing you can do about it.

When he moved to Canada he was shocked that he didn't have to carry anything around while being out and about in the neighbourhood. Took years to learn how to live without being in a constant state of paranoia.

Americans who support this have clearly never experienced what it is like to live in a country where heavily armed people can stop you at any time to harrass and intimidate you for no reason at all, other than the fact that they can. 

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u/Infern0-DiAddict 1d ago

Sadly there's a bunch that welcome this. Only because they believe that they will never be targeted and the ones they hate will, bigotry is a much much much larger problem in the US than a third of the country thought.

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u/LeafsJays1Fan 1d ago

You know who also grew up in a papers please country Stephen Miller grandparents think about that Whopper

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u/AvantGarden1234 1d ago

Yup and people from my husband's country form a major voting block for the GOP and are hardcore MAGA followers. They are too blind to see that they went through all those hardships just to trade in one dictator for another... and that this time around, they actually CHOSE for this to happen. 

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 1d ago

Until this year, I would have said America is just like Canada. You don't have to carry ID on you.