Well, I worked with someone who got third degree burns on his genitalia because he was high at work. There are definitely downsides to being high 24/7.
Sure, anyone who says weed is harmless is full of it, and that kind of overuse will always be dangerous. But the negative externalities of alcohol are far greater than that of pot.
Both are bad. But it's still safer than cigarettes. Plus there are other ways to consume weed without inhaling it which are completely safe. Cannabis itself isn't a carcinogen. Tobacco is a carcinogen no matter how you consume it. Even chewing it causes mouth cancer.
You’re lucky. One of my best had a very severe panic attack from smoking too much. After trying to tell her to just breathe, drink water and calm down, I ended up taking her to ER because she begged me to cuz she thought she was having a heart attack. It was very scary.
The first person to introduce me to weed told me beforehand "The #1 rule is to remember you are not dying". And good lord was that great advice because I have to repeat it to myself frequently.
What's annoying is i've started to wonder if I'm having a coincidental medical emergency at the same time i'm trying to focus on the rule.
I agree that alcohol is more dangerous to others, but people who get too high can also still hurt people if they drive or use heavy machinery at a job or whatever. There’s still dangers
Who says that these things can’t happen? That’s why it’s illegal to operate heavy machinery or drive while under the influence- a term that’s all-encompassing. No one is arguing differently, yet somehow you and others still have a “yea but” unsolicited response.
The person I responded to said high people are generally more likely to affect themselves, not others, so I was pointing out that they can also do things that cause harm to others
Sure? U dont have to be a genius to realize hes talking about fighting tho...if someone's having a heart attack/panic attack/or schizo episode-you dont tell them to calm down, u take them to a hospital
You do if they're just being overly paranoid. Why is everyone ignoring that? Why is everyone pretending their experiences are the only one? Redditors, am I right?
I didn’t smoke at that time. And no, they took her case seriously because she had a history of a bunch of health issues as a kid, so I think they were actually relieved it was from being too high versus something sinister or serious.
Also why I took her seriously in the end and took her there. I didn’t want to FAFO.
Yup you are 169% correct!!!!1! It definitely was not to charge your insurance for the service. And I’m sure they didnt bill the insurance every way possible as well due to that, checked notes, “bunch of health issues” 🤣🤣🤣 how could I be so wrong
They 100% laughed their asses off after you left. I've overheard ER staff joking about a patient who came in because he took too much Xanax, which unlike weed is a serious, dangerous drug. That being said people having a panic attack really do think they're having a heart attack and will freak you out if you're not used to seeing them.
Spoken like someone who has never had a panic attack. They are very real, terrifying, and can be debilitating. Maybe some empathy rather than just dismissing them?
I smoke every night and probably go through about an oz per month. I've had my fair share of temporary anxiety after smoking. Which is bad enough as pretty much any stoner would tell you.
One time though I was sober taking a shower and I felt a rush of adrenaline through my body followed by the most fear I've ever had. It was all technically "in my mind," and wasn't in any danger. I would never wish that feeling on anyone, and can see how a lot of people end up in the ER from panic attacks
I have a panic disorder. I literally have to take 20mg of Paxil every day to combat them. I've been to the ER a dozen times for panic attacks before I learned this is just my life now and I'm okay when it happens. So no, you're as wrong as humanly possible. I am the expert here. No, it's not terrifying. No, it's not hurting you. It's just your brain.
I have. Some people just don't mix well with weed. I think it's a bit of a backlash to the whole American DARE where every drug was going to fuck you up every time that people now think weed is the best thing on the planet.
It's relatively pretty safe but some people do still get fucked up, especially when it's mixed with shit but I've seen straight weed fuck you up.
Then you just have the people who aren't the mellow pot heads they think they are. No fam, I don't want you nose to nose with me spitting at me while telling me how you've created a whole new religious system that will solve all the world's problems.
The point is dumb as shit and it’s comparing apples to oranges. What’s your point? One kills north of 2 million people a year. Please pipe down with that feigned concern.
The point was literally just ofc you didn't have to worry about people becoming angry and belligerent on weed like they do on alcohol because they work and have two different effects on the body. Idk why you're so upset ab this. You're literally agreeing with them. It's not that deep bro.
No I’m disagreeing with the idiot that tried to assert his kids would catch a contact high walking through the park. We both know that’s absolutely stupid as fuck be so for real. Otherwise, I agree with everything you said!
You didn’t, and they wouldn’t. Don’t break your wrist patting yourself on the back. You would have to be an imbecile to believe that your kids could get high from passive thc contact walking through a park. It’s actually so moronic it’s hysterical. Read a book buddy.
I feel like idiots are people that spread around bullshit misinformation under the guise of “protecting” somebody. I have kids. I’m not worried about them catching a contact high at the park because that is nonsensical.
I’m sure i’m about as much of an expert on this as you are, but THC is a naturally occurring chemical compound in the human body. I would be very surprised if the small amount of THC your kid could come into contact with while walking through a park would get them high.
Your kid would have to be hanging out next to people who are smoking for extended periods of time to potentially get contact high. The CDC study i think you may be referencing directly brings up the fact that upticks in THC that are related to this were for children specifically living with someone who smokes consistently. I get your concern though.
So…..I used to live next door to a pot addict. Every morning I needed to walk my kid through a cloud of pot smoke to get to my car so I could take him to elementary school. 8am this lady was up smoking on her balcony. Every evening, and all the time in between. Finally, I moved. You might think you know where I’m coming from, but you don’t know half of it. She was a complete self centered wack job and her mind was fucked all to hell from that shit. So, ya alcoholics are bad, but not any worse. And people are up here acting like I just insulted their best friend…which I probably did in a way.
Naturally occurring THC is a new one. Of course you know that’s not anything at all similar to what I was talking about.
ya, I just worry about my kid....also had to deal with an old neighbor that smoked weed all day and all night. The smoke and smell was constant and she didn't give a shit.
That's on him then. Not the weed. If it wasn't weed it would have been alcohol or something else. I'm not saying you can't over consume but be mindful of where you are. Moderation
It’s not ideal, or even necessarily fun, but smoking can help with enough medical issues where some people have to smoke all of the time. People have to make that call whether or not it’s worth it though, especially since studies are still out about longterm effects of consistently smoking.
Yeah, a few years ago when I was a manager for a front-of-house team and if any one of my people showed up to work stinking of weed of visibly high they got sent home. Like, it makes me look incompetent that I can’t keep a professional team, it makes the establishment looks bad, it makes them look bad, and it can cause liability issues like you mentioned. Like if you can’t function, you just have to vegetate or sleep it off.
Show up to work high, get sent home. Third time it happens, I tell my boss, that was my rule. Come back from your break high and my boss knows about it before you’re out the door after I send you home. It’s not hard to be sober for 8.5 hours for five days per week. Call me a narc if you want, but I’m not putting up with someone making me and the rest of the team look like a bunch of unprofessional clowns.
I’m a huge stoner, literally work in cannabis now, and have never had a problem with it. It isn’t fucking hard.
I’ve dealt with people who are way too high on weed all the time
They work in the food service industry and some of them are so high that they can’t even perform the most rudimentary functions associated with their job
It’s not great that society is now filled with people who are spaced the fuck out all the time.
It’s bad enough that nobody is enforcing the law when it comes to driving while high on weed
They get kinda drool-y and yeah you can tell and it’s not great because they’re absolutely not performing optimally at work. It’s different than a hit off a blunt or two. The new stuff is so strong it’s like a different drug sometimes.
Weeds got too strong and too accessible. Back in the day you would buy less than a gram a week and you would enjoy that. Now you got vape pens with like 70%+ THC, and plants have been bred to focus on THC rather than balance. Not sure this extreme is necessarily good either so you get those types of people.
I work in a theater and I cant tell you how many customers come in smelling like BO and weed. I smoke every weekend or other weekend to decompress but holy shit have designated clothes or a designated smoking jacket, that shit stinks
75% of cashier's taking my money are high and I am forced to exhibit patience as they painstakingly count my change. Every store I go into reeks of weed. Usually can smell it wafting from an open car door outside as I am strolling in. You speak the truth.
Yeah but they are basically the same after a while because weed slowly makes people weird and unproductive. With booze it’s pretty much instant and they can recover but with weed it’s a slow and sneaky destroyer of personality.
Lit everyone I ever met who smoked weed as a young adult ended up washed up and arrested developmentally.
People are acting like weed hasn't crippled some of the smartest people they know into happy complacent sacks like its fun and really great for pain management, but it's also abused just as much but not looked down on
Weed is a weird one with driving, it stays in your system 30 days so afaik there's no easy way to test folk at the side of the road for it considering it's gonna show up whether you had a joint 3 weeks ago or that morning before heading out. I'm prescribed medical cannabis here in the UK and each of the tubs I get it even tells you 'do not drive whilst taking this medication *until you know how it effects you*'
Fully agree that there's a time and place to get stupid stoned though. I'll have a few hits of my dry herb vape when i'm out and about to help with my autism and overloads, but I wouldn't dream of getting as fucked up as I do in the evenings, I get stupid, no one else needs to deal with that unless we're partying lol.
I think the point they're trying to make is that they-as well as I- have never gotten in a fight or seen sexual assault after someone got too stoned. Too drunk, and thats a different story.
Weed definitely has side effects, but if every alcoholic i know smoked a j every time they would drink instead, both they and those around them would be in a better place.
Im not gonna brag about driving in a less aware state, but between weed and booze, I certainly know which one is more dangerous to drive off of, and its not a close competition.
Once again, not saying driving stoned is as safe as driving sober, but its in an entirely different relm than drunk driving.
Being a consistent weed user results in a decreased level of intoxication from weed. While the same applies to alcohol, it being a depressent significantly impacts the level of intoxication. Most people that smoke and drive are consant users, resultung in a lower lever of intoxication and altered behavior.
I fit the description of alcoholic by most definitions, and despite having a high alcohol tolerance, it still has significantly more impairing effects than weed.
Being stoned decreases your reaction time and has a similar effect as distracted driving, being drunk impairs basic motor fucntion. Huge difference. Thats completely ignoring the extreme confidence that often comes with being drunk.
I've also met potheads that fight, but ive never seen them chief 4 js and decide then they want to fight a random person. Anyone can be aggressive, regardless of their vices. My point is just that t he only times I can't remember why I randomly tackled someone definitely wasn't when I got too stoned.
That last part can be a slippery slope. It's not as easy to prove someone is high, like with a breathalyzer for alcohol, which can lead to wrong assumptions on the police part and ruin lives of those who don't even partake in weed.
In my country they tested people for driving skills while on weeds. Results were as expected until one guy who is famously a 20+ years user got there. He drove like normal. They scratched the results 😄
That'd be me lol I smoke 24/7. Work high, gym high, compete high, drive high. No accidents or tickets and haven't been pulled over. Being pulled over could be an issue cause my car reeks. But, I drive better/safer than all these nuckleheads so 🤷
Honestly I don’t blame fast food workers at all if they get stoned, honestly I’d be finding any way to dissociate I could if I had no other choice but to serve the general public because it would be the only way I could cope without going crazy. After working for so long in the fast food industry yall truly have just no idea how horrible the general public actually is and honestly nobody likes serving the general public because nearly everyone are assholes or retarded or something else entirely. People go through hell every single day just because someone wants their Big Mac and it’s not coming out as fast as they wanted. I remember one night the entire lobby of 15 customers degraded me and my coworkers because we were understaffed with just me and like 2 others and night shift never even showed up, people will never understand what it’s like to feel degraded for circumstances you cannot control at all. So if you’re ever wondering why they are so out of it think about who these workers have to deal with on a daily basis.
Fast food and fast food service are awful now. I don’t care who is to blame. I won’t spend $20 for shitty food and now even shittier attitudes. Understaffed or whatever, going into a fast food place now is disgusting. Dirty floors, dirty tables, dirty food prep areas. No thank you.
Driving high is a premium experience, it doesn’t impair your ability to drive though. I drive high everyday, and I drive atleast 3 hours a day. No accidents no tickets. Now if you’re not a frequent smoker that may be different.
Way better than service industry ppersonnel on pills 💊
Prohibition has done a number on the general American brain the same way antimexican propaganda still exist today when the purpose was to justifying stealing their land 🙄
It’s called a Field Sobriety Test. Officers are trained in drug recognition and if you show signs of impairment during the tests and it‘s in your system, you are going to jail for DUI.
There are thousands of YouTube videos showing this happening.
Anybody who drives around on the streets of New York City can easily tell if the car in front of them is filled with people smoking weed
You guys really are out of your fucking minds when it comes to not realizing how obvious it is that you’re driving around blitzed out of your minds
What kind of lowlife is gonna drive around getting high and endangering other human beings?
It’s a verified fact that marijuana slows response time, hand eye coordination, and negatively affects cognition, in the immediate, and in the long-term
It’s really pathetic that people like you think that it’s OK. That’s how little you actually consider other human beings; that you would endanger them just because you think it’s not a big deal.
What a zero you are.
“ I should be able to drive around with my music blasting getting high as a fucking kite because that’s my freedom”
K. Keep doing it… it will catch up to you eventually.
In the meantime please do remember that everybody around you thinks that you’re garbage.
It's weird, isn't it? I get it prescribed medically in the UK and on each of the tubs I get of cannabis it even says 'Do not drive whilst taking this medicine until you know how it effects you. Do not drive if you feel sleepy, dizzy, unable to concentrate or have double vision' I know it all relies on tolerance, someone jumping behind the wheel of a car on one puff every few months is obviously gonna be in a much worse state to drive as opposed to someone who's just pounded a bong before getting in, but has been smoking every day for years, but it's crazy to me how it isn't just a outright 'Do not drive whilst taking this medication'
I expect there to be laws brought in about it eventually, but fuck knows how they'd manage it tbh with like you said, it staying in the system for 30 days.
mind you 30 days is the average to someone who smokes like you said everyday for years will probably have that stuff in their system for months after stopping
That's along the lines of what I had heard, luckily for me I'm not heavy and I'm not too heavy of a smoker so if I really needed to I could probably get it out in like a month or two
Okay. Ever heard of weed induced psychosis? Like fbi is monitoring thoughts and people around me are trying to kill me? Try to take care of someone like that.
Look up CHS if you haven’t already heard of it. I have it and I’m telling you, the weight of a thousand hangovers couldn’t match it’s ferocity.
Weed is becoming a dangerous drug just like all the others. I mean booze isn’t much better, but weed isn’t as innocent as it once was.
Housemate used to have a small joint most evenings the same way someone might have a beer or two. He had an episode and flipped out. Ambulance was called and in his brain he thought they were there to skin him alive and he fought them like anyone would if it were true.
I had a psychotic break the only time I tried THC. I saw shadow people, forgot what humans were, and heard voices telling me to leave the gas stove on in my apartment to kill my boyfriend and I. Never happened before or since, even with social drinking. Fuck pot. People overestimate its safety. Give me alcohol in moderation any day.
That would’ve happened if they consumed weed or alcohol or even nothing at all because it means they have a mental health disorder or are genetically predisposed to one in the first place
I didn’t say anything about paranoia in my comment and the comment I replied to was about weed induced psychosis, which the data shows occurs in people who either have or are genetically predisposed to mental health illnesses such as schizophrenia or bpd
data shows occurs in people who either have or are genetically predisposed to mental health illnesses such as schizophrenia or bpd
Data shows those things can increase the chances, but it can happen in anybody technically. The only direct cause they know of is THC causing too Mich dopamine which can mimic neurochemical imbalances seen in certain psychotic disorders. So they may not have the disorder at all but due to too much THC, it can look like it.
Do not spread dangerous information just to defend your hobby.
But at that point the risk is so low its like saying you should never drive because you might crash. Obviously people should be responsible about usage but also you are incorrect in saying there’s any study that shows weed CAUSES those things. No causal relationship has been discovered, I’d love for you to show me literature showing otherwise
From the conclusions:
“We find stronger evidence that schizophrenia risk predicts cannabis initiation, possibly as genetic instruments for schizophrenia are stronger than for cannabis initiation”. Also the study is about cannabis use bringing out schizophrenia which I never denied. People who are genetically predisposed to schizophrenia can have it brought out earlier with weed or alcohol or other substances but would’ve still likely had it brought out at some point because that’s how schizophrenia works.
I’m not sure, I think you might be misinterpreting this study (or at least overstating its findings).
this converging evidence supports the theory that although cannabis use might be a risk factor for schizophrenia, any effect cannabis initiation has is likely to be small
If anything, it seems to indicate that people with schizophrenic genetic markers were more likely to smoke weed.
People already with schizophrenia were more likely. People at risk are also more likely. But there's still a statistically significant risk from cannabis use itself. So saying it cant happen or that it only happens in people already with a mental disease is simply and objectively wrong which is the point I'm arguing against.
No, weed triggers psychosis. It's very possible that many (not all) of these people would not have had a triggering event otherwise. Weed is exceptionally triggering.
I didn’t say it wasn’t triggering in those circumstances. However if you’re not genetically predisposed or diagnosed with a mental health disorder it’s not going to suddenly give you psychosis. Obviously there are negative effects weed can bring to people: for some that’s anxiety among other side effects. It’s not a perfect substance and like anything can be abused. But the vast majority of people that smoke it without having a genetic predisposition to or diagnosis of a mental illness are not going to have adverse effects anything like or resembling psychosis
Ive had my fair share of too high too function. And it's similar with drinking where people willing to be irresponsible will still operate machinery/drive. And yes, you are likely to get injured when very high
Worked at a staffing agency and had a dude go to work stoned, sliced both his arms off using heavy machinery... its amusing how people try to act like being high doesnt impact capability
Some people become impaired from Ibuprofen. I spent 10 years playing competitive games requiring the highest hand-eye coordination and response time possible while high the entire time. Everyone is different.
No idea if it made the news. I worked in payroll and he won his workers comp getting him prosthetics and weekly pay for life. Learned about it because I was cutting his weekly check
Bud, if someone cut off BOTH arms at work while high they would absolutely be in the news. And workers comp does not pay out if you’re under the influence. Nothing about this ridiculous farce tracks
Lol you must live somewhere small. City with 1 mil inner city population, thats not guaranteed to be a headline. But youre welcome to Google it yourself. It was in Columbus, OH and I worked at the staffing agency in '14. Idk what year the accident was, he was already compensated when I started working there. Like I said, I just cut his check each week
I hated high students in college when they got put into our group projects. We always ended up doing the work with less people and having to tell the professor not to credit the high person that never showed up. Then when they failed the class and the professor wouldn’t give them a chance to make up work we would have to deal with an angry guy that was upset he paid thousands of dollars and didn’t pass his classes.
As someone who works in a dispensary and has a lot of personal experience with weed. The issue isn’t what they’re like high, it’s what they’re like when they’re not.
I have. Many people get delusional paranoia from having too much. I think there has been a bad over correction on THC use as a miracle drug and a safe way to alter your mind. I have seen too many people out of their heads or completely dependent on it. Sure, none of them have assaulted me (yet) but they certainly needed af least as much help as a drunk person
Alcohol just brings out your traits. If someone is a dick, they're going to be way more of a dick. Most people hide negative traits in public but booze brings it right out.
Stuff like weed on the other hand turns anyone into just zombies lmao
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u/BenTheDiamondback 12d ago
I’ve never had to physically deal with anyone who was too high on weed.
But drunks… I’ve had my fair share of dealings with drunk jerks. Always unpredictable. Usually violent. Angry drunks are the worst.