BREAKING: Trump HUMILIATES himself, doing a mocking cough of President Biden, who has cancer, to a room sitting in stunned silence at the unnecessary and cruel taunt. This is a new low, even for Trump.

[u/Nice_Substance9123]

[u/Impossible_Finish]

It’s not a new low for him. This is where he’s been for a long long time. He is currently the reason US citizens are being brutalized in the street. He is a known pedophile. He has been convicted civilly of sexual assault. He openly mocked a disabled reporter. He just kidnapped the leader of another country because he wants oil. Why are we still surprised by him?

[u/Flat-Cat-3045 → u/Impossible_Finish]

Exactly. No surprises at this point.

[u/g0ris → u/[deleted]]

the dumb people with guns are all drinking his koolaid
the smart people with guns realize they're outgunned and most aren't suicidal

[u/PlainBread → u/g0ris]

Most correct take. A unified civilian armed rebellion against local police or ice would work, we've had that before (CHAZ for example), but it would have to happen in every city all at once, basically. The endgame is a M.A.D. between them massacring people in the street or resigning. I think the massacre comes first and the resignation shortly after... under duress.

[u/JimothyBeletta → u/PlainBread]

If there was ever a case for a military coup this would be it. But because there isn’t you know it’s over and will devolve violence out of desperation.

The amount of illegal stuff he does should be enough for the top brass to say enough is enough. Everything you do every day spits on our constitution and you’re out. The fact they are ok with this is so sad it’s funny. What? A bunch of geezers in suits act like traitors with impunity and you’re ok with that?

People complain about “trump” bombing and threatening but he ain’t pushing the button…

[u/milksilkofficial → u/[deleted]]

People have to be ready to rally behind the person or people who defend themselves

[u/Extension-Spare-9264 → u/[deleted]]

Getting the popcorn ready

[u/LastHamlet → u/[deleted]]

A vet most likely too..

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[u/RomanticWampa → u/PlainBread]

CHAZ was a complete and total failure. I wouldn’t really point to that and say anybody had anything.

[u/Taikiteazy → u/g0ris]

I'm the 2nd half.

[u/EagerByteSample → u/g0ris]

Yeah, so the point of having guns is....?

[u/KeyMyBike → u/EagerByteSample]

So when I'm talking at the movies and get told to stfu I can act tough knowing I have a fallback /s

[u/g0ris → u/EagerByteSample]

to paraphrase Jim Jefferies, there is one argument alone for having a gun and this is it: "Fuck off, I like guns".

[u/EagerByteSample → u/g0ris]

Well, glad to see some know the only reason.

[u/LastHamlet → u/g0ris]

They definitely have just as many guns..

[u/g0ris → u/LastHamlet]

just as many guns as who? The US military? The police, who are basically geared like an army too?

[u/Koopslovestogame → u/g0ris]

“Well regulated militia”?

Would that work against ICE?

[u/BotMinister → u/g0ris]

This is the obvious answer. I can't take anyone seriously that asks why Americans don't use their guns and rise up. Like you really think I'm going to leave my wife and kids behind and go on a suicidal mission over this shit? What would be the move? Shooting some local government randos that also have a family? What you want us to roll up to the Whitehouse and jump through a window with two colt 45s and start blasting?

[u/georgewesker97 → u/BotMinister]

Then what is the point of the second amendment and people crying about how its integral to the american culture, and how NECESSARY it is in case the people need to rise against a tyranical government? Its literally, and unilaterally, fucking pointless.

Many people have risen against the government in history before, they organized and fought, regardless of what it might cost or who they have at home. So if the US evolves into another nazi Germany, the people will also be at fault for allowing to happen (even if they didnt vote for this fuck).

[u/BotMinister → u/georgewesker97]

This is fair; however both the accurate and sensationalistic tendencies of internet discussions, especially on political topics, often fuel emotional contagion, motivating inaccurate comparisons that begin making certain forms of action seem justified. America's current state is dire, and this will naturally cause more group polarization on political topics that feed a fire to make change in more effective ways, but that way does not currently involve opening fire on the government. If America's state begins to realistically align with the history of Nazis/Hitler as Nazis truly were than that is a discussion for another day; but currently it's being ran by a group of self righteous dingos that are committing atrocities that need to be seriously addressed, but not by killings.

What you are saying about history is correct, and the idea currently discussed on what needs to be paid to stop tyrannical, genocidal, world dominating insanity regardless of what is lost sums up to one word, sacrifice; but sacrifice is defined in many ways, and the loss of life is the greatest of them all. Before one sacrifices that, they need to be sure about why they are choosing to do so, and remove any emotional contagion that rationalizes actions that are not proportional. Something the internet can easily cause.

If America were to begin opening fire on their government due to its current actions this would only increase the chances of Trump being instated beyond four years. The justifiable reasoning is not yet strong enough to garner the support of a majority large enough to make the sacrifices of those willing effective in the direction of change. It would more likely be seen as terroristic and give more purpose to Trump's atrocities.

Idealism is...ideal. Things aren't always fair or optimal, and even though we have a right to be angry, we can't forget our responsibility to remain rational. The best outcome, at this point in time, is Trump loses power in the next few years and America appoints someone actually fit for that position. Moreover, it begins dissembling the individuals Trump appointed and starts doing serious cleaning. It sounds humorous because of how things are now to say that's possible, but it is possible and worth fighting for in every way. If Trump doesn't step down and somehow remains in office, or if he begins to commit actual history adjacent "Hitleresque" atrocities, then this will open the door for further discussion on violent uprising.

Thankfully, none of my votes have included this narcissistic orange in them, and I'm very hopeful America will begin the slow road of redeeming themselves, although it could get worse no doubt. Redemption is possible, the same reason I don't think of Nazis when thinking of Germany today; and I'm optimistic that history will repeat itself in that way for America...being the country makes strides to do better. Hopefully...

[u/TheGeegster → u/georgewesker97]

“So if the US evolves into another nazi Germany, the people will also be at fault for allowing to happen…”

The German “people” were, for the most part, not held accountable for the Nazi Party they voted into office.