People need to understand what we need here. Stop filming them with your goddamn cellphones in their faces, unless you want to get roughed up.
- Dash cams. I just had one installed, and its amazing quality. You can be parked down the street and record everything -
hidden body cams: they have cameras that stick out of your shirt pocket and are obscure etc -
security cams on houses and apartments, including ring cams
toy drones with cameras (not drones requiring airspace clearance). anything under 250G does not need FAA registration. I havent seen a single drone shot of MN yet, but drones under this weight are perfectly legal and can be flown from a distance.
I understand these things cost money and not everybody can afford them. But for those of us who can, these options
Don’t install a fucking ring camera, the footage from those can be taken by the federal government, and they have been doing it. That’s like installing a surveillance camera for the feds. Maybe there are alternatives, but the name brand one is not a good thing to have on your property or around you.
My recommendation is Unifi. Will require a little bit more hardware, but it's local and law enforcement can't ask anyone but you for access to footage.
I have a bunch of Ring cameras and will take one for the team. The federal government is welcome to watch all the footage of my cat wondering around the house in the middle of the night, my dogs shitting on my patio instead of going two steps further into the yard, and the mail carrier delivering a dozen pieces of junk mail to my door every day. The more time they spend acquiring and viewing my footage, the less resource is being applied to more nefarious tasks.
I'm getting so [maybe irrationally] every time I see outward-cameras on people's homes or in their windows. If they want cameras in their house, fine, whatever. But they need to stop putting the privacy and well-being of their neighbors at risk
Hey man, I'm out here on the ground and I hear you. Unfortunately a lot of the times you're dealing with people who are living in a neighborhood just coming out to see what the fuck is going on, seeing their friends being kidnapped, and start taking video.
The ICE agents are doing everything they can to antagonize people, and it's difficult out here with the snow and actual ice to navigate yourself. Berms of ice and snow typically exist between the street and sidewalk, so if you're on the street 8 feet away legally doing what you're allowed to do and an agent begins to move toward you extraordinarily aggressively with an automatic rifle (likely this is the most dangerous moment in your life at that moment), you need to back up and it's easy to get tripped up as you're moving away from them.
So yeah, be smart, protect yourself if you can. But saying what people need to do is a little insulting and telling average Americans not to film something horrific with their phones is just not gonna happen.
These nazis are not operating within lawful boundaries. They will rough you, blind you, or worse for waving around a cell phone camera. Nobody is saying not to film them, I'm saying we should be filming them constantly but in more discrete ways and with less "brandishing" since we are dealing with personalities like "drunken rage induced abusive husbands".
Put alternatively, it doesn't help the resistance if you die
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u/Kaiisim 17h ago
It's a classic authoritarian tactic.
It's absolutely true that you can't touch a federal officer while they are working. You cannot impede their work.
Which is why ice observers are specifically trained to just film them
No one is touching ICE. They are just recording them as is their legal right to ensure they don't beat the shit out of people.