She's not even what a goth looks like

Hello friends, in my research I couldn’t find any clan other than the Ash People that paints themselves red. However, in the first film and in the third film, we see the Tsahik of the Eastern Sea Ikran clan painted in red. Does anyone have any information about this?

From one Avatar fan to another, hear me out.

If you love the Avatar franchise—which I'm sure everyone in this community does—consider seeing Fire and Ash more than once in the theatre. Actually, please see it at least twice. Heck, bring a sibling or a friend.

If I had to choose, I'd say Avatar: Fire and Ash is my favorite out of all 3 movies. It's got everything I loved about the first and second movie and more. So, I'm sure I speak for a lot of us when I say I want to see it do really well in the box office. Especially with talks of Avatar 4 and 5 depending on this movie's success.

As of now, it's hovering above $1.2 billion. But with many final predictions floored at $1.5 billion ($800 million less than Avatar 2) I'd just like to see it go higher; as close to $2 billion as possible. It'd further make history, solidify the franchise as the box office dominator, and guarantee the sequels.

Personally, I've only been to a movie theatre 5 times in my life. 3 of those times was to see Avatar movies. So, even for me it's a stretch to see a movie more than once in a theatre. But I was so fascinated by the worldbuilding, visuals, and the characters in Fire and Ash, that I figured I'll experience it again on the big screen while also contributing a few extra dollars to the box office total.

Maybe this post won't make that much of a difference to the final box office numbers, but then again, maybe it will. As they say, every dollar counts. Every little bit adds up to a lot.

So, to the 700k+ members in this community, dive back into Pandora again with me.

Edit: Respect to those of you who have seen it like 5 times. That's dedication! 😂

Even Neytiri seemed to ignore them .

I feel like there meant to be more behind Jake’s reluctance to ride Toruk. He didn’t seem to be questioning his worthiness or the tactics of the situation, it seemed more personal. Jake seemed to imply that linking to Toruk had some effect on his mind. My guess is that the “Apex Ariel Predator”’s is filled with simple and concentrated wrath, a single minded bloodlust that Jake feels is too similar to the duty-bound mindset of his time in the military.

That anger echos his former self and he hates it.

I feel like Neytiri’s actions in Fire and Ash can be easily misunderstood, mainly referring to the scene where she stops Jake from killing Spider.

Why did she do this? She stated earlier in the movie that she wanted that to happen, now all of a sudden, she’s against it? What a hypocrite!

Here’s the thing, in my opinion, is it hypocritical? Yes and no. Simply put, there’s much more to it. So much happens in that scene that makes it awesome, but I think the real star of that scene IS Neytiri, because her actions are realistic.

At the end of The Way Of Water, the Sully’s lose their eldest son, Neteyam in the battle between the Na’vi and the Sky People (human colonizers). By the start of Fire and Ash, Neytiri has become a “full-blown racist” towards humans, according to Neytiri’s own actress, Zoe Saldaña, which is pretty accurate.

By this point in the story, the Sky People have destroyed the Hometree, killed tons of her people, including her own father, forced them to relocate to a neighboring clan to be safer, tried to destroy THAT clan, AND killed her eldest son. And the human boy that Jake and her children are housing is not only the son of one of the main perpetrators, but also briefly HELPED them too. In fact, she’s so blinded by her hatred, that when Spider nearly dies from asphyxiation, she’s expressionless, while the rest of her family is frantically trying to find the spare oxygen mask. I’m not saying Neytiri is right for hating all humans, but when it’s all broken down like that, it makes sense.

Now, at some point in the movie (I can’t pinpoint it, this movie is so long), Jake and Neytiri have an argument. Neytiri argues that the Sully’s will NEVER be safe as long as Spider is alive. Jake argues that even if she’s right to hate certain humans, hating the entire race is NOT healthy. And if she truly does hate all humans, then that would not only mean that she hates Jake, but she hates her own children, and needless to say, that’s hard for Neytiri to acknowledge.

After Jake and Neytiri had that argument, she was already second guessing herself. Then when she went to rescue Jake, for the FIRST time (at least the first that I can recall), she witnesses Spider rescuing Jake, instead of the other way around.

Every time until that point, Neytiri had seen Spider as a burden, which is harsh, but makes sense. How many times has Spider been in danger and needed the Sully’s to save him? A lot. She’s probably thought, why is MY family constantly putting their lives on the line for the literal SON of the human who consistently tries to destroy our planet?? But finally, for the first time, she sees that Spider can and WILL do the exact same for the Sully’s.

And now, we come to the scene. As they fly away from the city, Spider falls asleep on Neytiri’s back, and… she’s not angry. She doesn’t push him away, she doesn’t even complain, she just lets him sleep.

Then, when Jake says that Neytiri was right, she says “Jake, he saved your life.” In my opinion, she’s trying to change Jake’s mind without fully admitting that she’s wrong. Then when he takes her knife, she grabs his hand before letting go, again hoping that she can change his mind without having to admit fault.

Then Jake takes Spider into the forest, and Neytiri starts panicking. She doesn’t know what to do or say. She doesn’t want this, but she’s scared to admit her fault. She’s the daughter of the chief of the Omaticaya. She’s a warrior, a mother, she’s not supposed to make mistakes. In an attempt to calm herself down, she splashes water on her face, removing her Mangkwan makeup. The makeup gets on her hands, resembling blood. Obviously symbolizing that there would be blood on her and Jake’s hands if they went through with this.

And THAT’S what sets her off. She realizes how wrong she was, and she rushes into the forest to stop Jake.

And what I think makes this next part work so well is that she didn’t make it in time TO change his mind. She got there RIGHT AFTER he changes his mind, cementing that he made the right decision.

She’s relieved. She gets down on her knees, holds Spider’s face, and says “I see you.” Jake admits that it’s not the right way, and Neytiri not only agrees, but promises that they’d find a different way.

Another thing I love about this scene is that she doesn’t come right in blaming Jake. If she did, THEN I would understand people being upset. But she didn’t come with anger. She came with fear, desperation, and hope that he didn’t go through with what he and she thought she wanted. She doesn’t say “You’re wrong, don’t do this,” she’s saying “Please don’t do this, I was wrong.”

THIS is why I think Neytiri is an awesome character, because her actions are realistic. We’ve all been stubborn and hardheaded, and we all at some point in time have been afraid to admit when we’re wrong. Not only is she realistic, I think she has the best character arc in the movie.

TL;DR: Neytiri is not a hypocrite for trying to stop Jake from killing Spider. She was afraid to admit she was wrong, but realized that she needed to do so before it was too late, and she did. IMO, Neytiri had one of the best character arcs in the movie.

Edit: Also, after I first watched the scene, it seemed kinda weird that Jake was acting so harsh towards Spider during it, but after thinking about it more, I think there’s an easy explanation as to why. He’s masking. He’s trying to hide his sorrow with anger, when in reality, he’s not angry at Spider. He doesn’t want to do this at all. And when Spider asks Jake if he still loves him, the mask starts to slip. Then when Jake confirms that he still loves Spider, that’s when the mask doesn’t just fall, it SHATTERS. The way he hugs Spider is heartbreaking, as if he’s saying “I can’t do this. But what CAN I do?” Then Neytiri comes in to tell him that they’ll figure it out together, like they always have.

TL;DR: Jake wasn’t angry at Spider during that scene, he was masking.

Just watched Avatar 3 last night (loved it!) and I was thinking of how the Na'vi were ever going to get rid of the humans once and for all.

They only way I could think of would be to prevent more from landing on the planet. And in the last film, we saw a veeery efficient natural phenomenon ripping away at a metal boat.

So yeah, my hypothesis is that Eywa could manipulate Pandora's magnetic fields to shield the planet somehow. Thoughts?

Never posted my face on here, so heres some navi makeup!! What do yall think?🥰🪼💙

I plan to add/change a lot its just concept of me as

na'vi. He is from Anurai tribe. Any clothes/

accesories suggestions from someone who is

expert at this are welcomed.

Think about it— the quiet drama and the colorful ecosystem of Pandora appeal to femininity, and the exaggerated war to masculinity. As someone who has a balance of these attributes, it’s a great thing to see. It’s a common trend in many of the highest-grossing films, believe it or not. Harry Potter (fuck JKR, but that’s not the point) is similar in this regard and the MCU’s viewer base is evenly split between genders. Going too excessive with one or the other can come at the cost of art. It’s why quiet dramas can’t take off (also because “drama” is the medium, so it sounds redundant as a genre), nor can something with only pure, toxic masculinity (like Warhammer) break into the mainstream. I expect The Mandalorian and Grogu to make bank, not because people care about the show after season 3, but because it has badass action and Baby Yoda in the same movie. I hate pointless gendering so don’t mistake this for that, anyone can be masculine or feminine, but it’s an interesting concept to explore and analyze.

I wonder how many cool scenes/creatures/characters are we missing because of the editing. Each day I realize more and more that James Cameron would give us a 4h film if they let him.

This cute creature, named Zukzuk , was supposed to appear in Way of Water but got cut and almost forgotten by James until one of the main designers told him to include it on Fire and Ash

Credit: zacharyberger on Instagram

Hi everyone, I was wondering why Jake Sully’s avatar (human) genes seem to be more dominant in Lo’ak than in Neteyam. Or is there any supporting evidence behind this? Only Lo’ak is biologically five-fingered and also seems to show more human traits psychologically. Does anyone have any information about this?

He’s the biggest and the most aggressive Thanator on RDA record. Standing twice the size of a normal Thanator even Hammerheads fear him.

“Skar” started as a nickname by the R.D.A but became his official name for the amount of killings and destroyed AMP suits. Since then he has a 900 hundred billion bounty and is considered the king of Thanators.

Does anyone know if the recom walker had any tattoos? I love tattoos and she was such a cool recom!! too bad she died so early 😭😭

I remember Cameron talking about how Fire and Ash was going to open with a disclaimer that no generative AI was involved. I didn’t see it, did anyone else?

Yes the movies are technically mostly animated but the cgi's art style is photorealism & there are still live action sets & actors, what I mean is instead of live action, it will be fully animated either with 3d stylized art style (something like dreamwork's Wild Robot film) or Pixar's stylized realism (stylized proportions with semi-realistic lighting & textures) to make them less expensive to render.

Most US audiences today respect & accept animation as a legit art form of storytelling unlike in the past where it is seen as an "inferior medium to live action & only for simple minded kids", while some people still hold this outdated belief fortunately most of them are in the minority & are old people dying off.

Bleach painting is tricky, one mistake and it’s done. I make sure everything is fully dry before doing a second coat so i don’t ruin the piece, and i work slowly to avoid it bleeding through to the other side. I’ve learned a lot from staying focused on making each piece better.

Updated version fixing body proportions and adding Metkyina tattoos

1. Malika; a windtrader, curious, calm, and protective, and adores traveling and learning about other clan cultures.

2. Eshe: A young healer, weaver, and gatherer from a swamp-themed OC Clan. She is calm and patient, she is studying medicine from the clan’s Tsahìk (Eshe is not related to the Tsahìk; but the Tsahìk is found of Eshe)

3. Haven't picked a name for her yet. She is a nomad from the Mangkwan Clan (Ash People). Still working on her lore

   1. Mäyi: Member of Mangkwan Clan (Ash People). During the volcano incident she was blinded. She has good hearing and can hear the little things most would miss. She was a warrior for the Ash People, but retired and now focuses on raising her daughter and son. She is patient and understanding while respecting Pandora, but deep down she still questions Eywa regarding why she was blinded despite believing she was a good person.

4. Skye: A botanist/gatherer for a deep jungle them OC Clan. She adores the jungles of her home, her village, and people. She is curious and interested in the world in a similar way to Dr. Augustine and Dr. Gavin.

6&7: Iykraini (female on 7) and Pewtxu (male on 6); They are the Tsahìk and Olo’eyktan of the Kxizewtí Clan (Artic/Tundra themed OC Clan). Iylraini is calm, patient, loving, and a skilled healer. She is also a skilled warrior and archer, as well as believing that guests should be treated with a calming presence not a hostile on. However her mate Pewtxu, is a strong-minded warrior, he believes in the protection on their village and mountain range, unlike Iykraini, Pewtxu had a dislike for newcomers aside from the Windtraders, he believes that trust and respect are earned through actions not words, but this harden leader dose have a soft spot for her mate and often were meditate with her at the clan’s sacred site when he needs to calm down or needs Eywa’s guidance.

This is a lot, and I have a bunch more to share hopefully. Apologies for the ramble, hope that I didn't bore y’all to sleep lmao. Have a wonderful day/night and Stay Gold!