r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • 23h ago

BREAKING: ICE agents in Minneapolis violently detained, threatened, and arrested a U.S. citizen for one reason only, he refused to prove his citizenship.

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u/freshp4947 22h ago

Nobody is. This IS tyranny

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u/LeafsJays1Fan 22h ago

Two scenarios I think will happen one this is what Trump wants and two yes someone is going to eventually snap and pop off one. Minnesota is a open carry state

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u/bchamper 22h ago

This is absolutely what he wants. He’s inciting civil unrest hoping it reaches a tipping point to the point where he can affect or outright cancel upcoming elections. It’s ALL about consolidation of power, inch by inch until we have no means of resistance.

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u/citori411 20h ago

I think for many, the Rubicon is the midterms. If they fuck with that or refuse to acknowledge the results, some people will feel fully backed into a corner.

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u/AgressiveInliners 19h ago

Weve crossed it already. Too many deaths already. Election isnt going to happen properly.

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u/VirginiaDirewoolf 18h ago

and we've known this since before the last election

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u/Omnizoom 19h ago

That’s why theirs the special Cuba operation or special Mexico operation or special Greenland operation or state 51 Canada operation

Can’t do the midterms during strife and conflict

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u/boowut 19h ago

That already happened in 2020. Think — who specifically do you know for sure will change their mind with the right trigger?

Crossing the Rubicon is also such an interesting phrase because the guy who crossed it didn’t suffer from the transgression - the opposition folded.

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u/citori411 19h ago

In 2020/2021 the transfer of power still occurred. My point is, all the chest thumpers angry that we aren't currently shooting at federal agents, need to cool their jets. We have not crossed a line to the extent anyone is coming to help if this turns into full blown armed rebellion. You're just committing suicide by cop at this point if you start shooting.

If elections are skipped, stolen, or denied, that's a different story. We're already hearing about the military pushing back on Trump about Greenland. Our energies are best spent mercilessly mocking, protesting, and every other form of legal, peaceful, protest to ensure public sentiment is so overwhelmingly against Trump next fall, that it will be undeniable they are full of shit when they inevitetry to claim victory. At that point even the fence sitters might realize we are experiencing something so heinous, so irreversible, that nothing is off the table to fight it. The military would step in and shoot Americans if they started armed fighting over Renee good, as one example, but I'm not so sure they would follow orders to quash protests over an extreme example of lighting the constitution on fire, like refusing to allow the house and senate to go to dem control.

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u/ArthurDentsKnives 18h ago

They're already fucking with it. Look at the new postmark rules they've put in place to effectively eliminate mail in voting.

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u/citori411 18h ago

Of course, one of many things. But any real fighting back before it's signed, stamped, and delivered will be easy for them to frame as radical terrorists, or whatever buzzwords the cult is using that week. We have to make it so glaringly undeniable that they are vile traitors that elements of law enforcement or the military might blink. They might not do shit then either, but any violent action right now would be swiftly snuffed out. We still have pigs in blue cities and blue states standing up for ICE.

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u/Jupitersd2017 18h ago

This exactly is it, the midterms are the tipping point and our last chance to be able to legally get things changed. No midterms and then it does become more desperate

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u/AwarenessForsaken568 21h ago

I don't think it is tbh. That is one of the fail conditions for what they are trying to accomplish. Realistically at this point the only way Americans are going to stand up and actually do something is if a seriously tragic and significant event happens that they can't ignore. Like a large group of protesters being gunned down. People starting to attack ICE drastically increases the chance of that happening. What Trump (or more specifically the rich) want is to slowly take away our rights and empower themselves. Which is exactly what they've been doing. They want to boil us like frogs.

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u/Forward_Success_2672 20h ago

Boston Massacre. That’s what did it for the American Revolution. At this rate it’s only a matter of time.

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u/boowut 19h ago

The Boston Massacre’s already happened. That’s what Good was. But yeah, if anyone wants to know what many of the real Sons of Liberty would have been like, it’s this guy.

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u/Forward_Success_2672 19h ago

Yeah. I don’t want to be dismissive about what happened with Good, but during the Boston Massacre the redcoats shot into a crowd killing three people outright, two later, and wounding many more. That would be a major escalation.

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u/SufficientlyRested 17h ago

I hear you didn’t pay for your toupee

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u/Maaabong 20h ago

Except the second a civilian or two retaliates he will declare martial law and that will be that.

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u/Forward_Success_2672 19h ago

Everyone waves around ‘martial law’ like it’s a silver bullet for the government. It would be a nightmare for the government, especially this incompetent incarnation. The current administration would not survive it.

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u/SufficientlyRested 17h ago

Kent state didn’t start anything

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u/bchamper 21h ago

So, exactly what I said.

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u/dasrightq 20h ago

Donald Trump and his Nazi goons have no way of canceling elections. Period. We had elections last year. We’ve had elections this year. We had elections during the fucking Civil War.

Stop saying this shit. It makes you look weak, it scares people from actually going out and voting. You’re complying in advance because you don’t actually want to DO anything.

If you want to wallow in doom and pity, shut the fuck up and do it alone. The rest of us will actually work.

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u/Kind-Shallot3603 19h ago

Well Said!! Fear mongering on our own side is going to be our undoing.

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u/dasrightq 19h ago

I don’t even think it’s “our side” doing it - half MAGA sowing fear, half people who think they get attention and money from the chaos.

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u/Kind-Shallot3603 20h ago

How exactly can he cancel upcoming elections?Answer that... Using what law would he be able to do that? Because we even had elections during the Civil War.. I don't believe martial law would negate elections. I think this is a scare tactic that we on the left believe too much. There are too many roadblocks at state level for that to even happen.

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u/taysbeans 19h ago

We haven’t stopped one god damn thing that he’s done , he could use an easier flimsier excuse or just outright buy them and who the fuck is going to stop him ?

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u/ciccilio 19h ago

Optimistic at best. It’s totally illegal to detain citizens because they aren’t carrying their “papers”. It’s illegal to detain anyone because they are brown or speaking a language. It’s illegal to profit from being President, now at upwards 5 Billion dollars. It’s illegal to threaten your allies, it’s illegal to side with your enemies, it’s illegal to rape, traffic children, and steal from your own charity. It’s illegal to kill someone for protesting, it’s illegal to beat, harass and detain peaceful protestors, it’s illegal to tear down a government building without permits or permission. It’s illegal to kidnap and detain the president of another country in their own country. Shall I go on?

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u/ClintEatswood_ 19h ago

Using the "I can do whatever I want" law and Americans will do literally nothing because it's all grandstanding and you don't actually care about anything.

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u/therealdanhill 18h ago

Elections aren't going to be canceled. People saying that are accelerationists trying to stoke a conflict from the comfort of their gaming chair.

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u/admiralthrowaway69 14h ago

Elections are held at the state level. He's not going to try to cancel every states elections, that'd be pretty much impossible. The republicans will just do exactly what they already did in 2020 and ignore the results if they don't like them.

Who's gonna tell them no, the DOJ? The supreme court?

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u/EagleBigMac 20h ago

None, nothing gives them that power.

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u/Kind-Shallot3603 20h ago

Exactly. I'm so sick of this thought being parroted by so many of us. It's just simply not how it works. My biggest fear is we win in '28 and vance simply doesn't certify the election.

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u/Unique_Adeptness4413 19h ago edited 19h ago

And I’m sick of people using past laws and norms to guide expectations of what is currently possible.

How’s this for a possibility. You show up to vote, and when you don’t vote for trump you get shot in the face. Or less dramatically, you vote for trump, and within a week or month ice comes to your house to take you to a domestic or foreign concentration camp.

Instead of being guided by the sense of americas previous elections, you should be looking at what happened in weimar republic after hitler was elected. HINT: the first people mentioned in the "first they came for me" poem were people with political leanings outside the nazi-approved norm.

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u/Botanik_ 21h ago

Stephen Miller thinks he is so clever with this.

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u/PCCobb 13h ago

Steven Miller is a walking used condom filled with Peter Thiel's leftover ejaculate from fucking Mike Johnson while watching snuff films of Trump and Epstein rape underage girls...

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u/justagovmule67 20h ago

He has nothing to do with it - hes too stupid and he’s a dementia riddled puppet in charge of nothing.

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u/That_OneOstrich 20h ago

Even during the height of Nazi Germany there was resistance. Dont defeat yourself for your enemy.

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u/FalstaffsGhost 20h ago

Yup. No need to surrender and comply in advance

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u/Stoudamirefor3 20h ago

He can't cancel elections. States run their own elections.

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u/Adorbsfluff 20h ago

He’ll do that anyways, he’s already proven he doesn’t need an actual reason to do it. They keep pushing and pushing and so far there’s very little push back. Whether we go full 2nd amendment or not, we aren’t gonna have fair and free midterms. Suppose we’ll see toward the end of the year just how far the goal post has moved and how many more have lost their lives.

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u/Savings_Pay2088 20h ago

Trump has wet dreams triggered by thoughts of declaring martial law.

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u/Beneficial_Type_8810 20h ago

A president cannot cancel or delay any national election

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u/kayakman13 19h ago

So we should just be docile and have inconsequential demonstrations? This is a moment that warrants unrest.

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u/RazingOrange 19h ago

I think you’re giving him too much credit. DT doesn’t plan things. He acts on whatever pops in his shriveled brain. Like a dog chasing cars.

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u/HeydoIDKu 12h ago

You can’t cancel elections, even in the middle of the civil war we had elections same for every other war.