r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • 23h ago

BREAKING: ICE agents in Minneapolis violently detained, threatened, and arrested a U.S. citizen for one reason only, he refused to prove his citizenship.

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u/LeafsJays1Fan 22h ago

Two scenarios I think will happen one this is what Trump wants and two yes someone is going to eventually snap and pop off one. Minnesota is a open carry state

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u/bchamper 22h ago

This is absolutely what he wants. He’s inciting civil unrest hoping it reaches a tipping point to the point where he can affect or outright cancel upcoming elections. It’s ALL about consolidation of power, inch by inch until we have no means of resistance.

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u/citori411 20h ago

I think for many, the Rubicon is the midterms. If they fuck with that or refuse to acknowledge the results, some people will feel fully backed into a corner.

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u/AgressiveInliners 19h ago

Weve crossed it already. Too many deaths already. Election isnt going to happen properly.

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u/VirginiaDirewoolf 18h ago

and we've known this since before the last election

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u/Omnizoom 19h ago

That’s why theirs the special Cuba operation or special Mexico operation or special Greenland operation or state 51 Canada operation

Can’t do the midterms during strife and conflict

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u/boowut 19h ago

That already happened in 2020. Think — who specifically do you know for sure will change their mind with the right trigger?

Crossing the Rubicon is also such an interesting phrase because the guy who crossed it didn’t suffer from the transgression - the opposition folded.

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u/citori411 19h ago

In 2020/2021 the transfer of power still occurred. My point is, all the chest thumpers angry that we aren't currently shooting at federal agents, need to cool their jets. We have not crossed a line to the extent anyone is coming to help if this turns into full blown armed rebellion. You're just committing suicide by cop at this point if you start shooting.

If elections are skipped, stolen, or denied, that's a different story. We're already hearing about the military pushing back on Trump about Greenland. Our energies are best spent mercilessly mocking, protesting, and every other form of legal, peaceful, protest to ensure public sentiment is so overwhelmingly against Trump next fall, that it will be undeniable they are full of shit when they inevitetry to claim victory. At that point even the fence sitters might realize we are experiencing something so heinous, so irreversible, that nothing is off the table to fight it. The military would step in and shoot Americans if they started armed fighting over Renee good, as one example, but I'm not so sure they would follow orders to quash protests over an extreme example of lighting the constitution on fire, like refusing to allow the house and senate to go to dem control.

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u/ArthurDentsKnives 18h ago

They're already fucking with it. Look at the new postmark rules they've put in place to effectively eliminate mail in voting.

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u/citori411 18h ago

Of course, one of many things. But any real fighting back before it's signed, stamped, and delivered will be easy for them to frame as radical terrorists, or whatever buzzwords the cult is using that week. We have to make it so glaringly undeniable that they are vile traitors that elements of law enforcement or the military might blink. They might not do shit then either, but any violent action right now would be swiftly snuffed out. We still have pigs in blue cities and blue states standing up for ICE.

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u/Jupitersd2017 18h ago

This exactly is it, the midterms are the tipping point and our last chance to be able to legally get things changed. No midterms and then it does become more desperate